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Boston is WR2 for TB wtf? (1 Viewer)

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Not that WR2 for TB is exactly an exciting draft prospect regardless, but....?? Is he the the "legit" starter?

 
Buccaneers | Boston working with starters

Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:59:06 -0700

ESPN's John Clayton reports Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR David Boston appears to have new life with the Buccaneers this year. Boston has been moved into the starting lineup.

Oh, and...

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=323583
I don't know how FBG does their depth charts, but the unofficial team depth chart, located at the team's homepage shows Boston as second string behind Galloway, with Stovall starting on the other side and Clayton behind him. http://www.buccaneers.com/team/depthchart.aspx

 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.

 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 of the second quarter when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
 
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as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
Yes, he did start both games. It was in the Tampa papers. Google it.
 
Not that WR2 for TB is exactly an exciting draft prospect regardless, but....?? Is he the the "legit" starter?
FBG has pimped him every year since 2002. You better believe they are going to notice any reps he takes with the first team.
 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 of the second quarter when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
I watched some of the second, and he was out there with the ones. Both gamebooks at NFL.com has him listed as having started both games, so i am pretty sure he did.
 
It's also worth noting that Boston isn't in BLUE on Henry's chart. He hasn't taken an official position on which of the three mentionables is the clear starter and considers them all still competing. I think the order is meaningful in handicapping the current race, but I'm not certain.

 
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as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
Yes, he did start both games. It was in the Tampa papers. Google it.
In that case he didn't do much with the first team as he didn't catch a pass in either game until the second quarter.I like FBG and they have a lot of good information, but it seems that some people here have drunk the Boston Kool Aid and are not being rational. Remember the ole...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Yes, the guy was a stud for a couple of years, but he was on Roids. Now unless he is using again, I don't see him as any more than a marginal WR2 or WR3 with marginal fantasy value. The real guy to watch in TB is Stovall IMO.
 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
Yes, he did start both games. It was in the Tampa papers. Google it.
In that case he didn't do much with the first team as he didn't catch a pass in either game until the second quarter.I like FBG and they have a lot of good information, but it seems that some people here have drunk the Boston Kool Aid and are not being rational. Remember the ole...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Yes, the guy was a stud for a couple of years, but he was on Roids. Now unless he is using again, I don't see him as any more than a marginal WR2 or WR3 with marginal fantasy value. The real guy to watch in TB is Stovall IMO.
Just checked out some posts on Pewter Report and that seems to be the sentiment there as well.
 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
Yes, he did start both games. It was in the Tampa papers. Google it.
In that case he didn't do much with the first team as he didn't catch a pass in either game until the second quarter.I like FBG and they have a lot of good information, but it seems that some people here have drunk the Boston Kool Aid and are not being rational. Remember the ole...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Yes, the guy was a stud for a couple of years, but he was on Roids. Now unless he is using again, I don't see him as any more than a marginal WR2 or WR3 with marginal fantasy value. The real guy to watch in TB is Stovall IMO.
What's irrational about listing him as the the 2nd WR when he's playing with the first string?If I have a problem with the FBG depth charts it is that you can't tell from them what is their belief of how things will end up, and what is the current reality. I don't understand complaining that what is shown is factual?
 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
Yes, he did start both games. It was in the Tampa papers. Google it.
In that case he didn't do much with the first team as he didn't catch a pass in either game until the second quarter.I like FBG and they have a lot of good information, but it seems that some people here have drunk the Boston Kool Aid and are not being rational. Remember the ole...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Yes, the guy was a stud for a couple of years, but he was on Roids. Now unless he is using again, I don't see him as any more than a marginal WR2 or WR3 with marginal fantasy value. The real guy to watch in TB is Stovall IMO.
Not being rational? I think most of these guys excited about Boston are taking him with there last pick. I dont think thats a bad risk, and certainly not irrational at all.
 
If you were Gruden, wouldn't you want to see what he can do? I would, and I'd give him a few games as a starter to see it. It's not like the guys pushing him lose anything by backing him up for a little while. And if he's good he could be really good.

I'm surprised he's still going so late in FF drafts. Looks like he could be a starter, and the only guy in front of him is 35 years old. And Garcia probably won't replicate his #s from last season, but he could be a lot better than anything they had last year and there's not legit TE in Tampa.

 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
That's the whole point; it isn't clear that he DID jump him. Some reporter is reporting that. What's his source? Did Gruden make an announcement? No. I put more stock in the team depth chart than in what some reporter says. Also, Stovall has much more upside and has had a good camp.
 
as far as i know, boston has started both preseason games. So not sure the depth chart on the TB website is very accurate.
When you say "as far as I know"...did you watch the games? I didn't but the nfl.com play by play for the Jax game shows Galloway being targeted with the first team and the first time Boston sees a pass is 13:40 into the second quarter when the second stringers were playing. The game against NE he isn't involved in the action, according to the play by play at nfl.com, until 12:56 when Luke McCown and Earnest Graham are playing with him. It doesn't look to me like he "started" but I didn't see the games. Can someone clarify.
Yes, he did start both games. It was in the Tampa papers. Google it.
In that case he didn't do much with the first team as he didn't catch a pass in either game until the second quarter.I like FBG and they have a lot of good information, but it seems that some people here have drunk the Boston Kool Aid and are not being rational. Remember the ole...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Yes, the guy was a stud for a couple of years, but he was on Roids. Now unless he is using again, I don't see him as any more than a marginal WR2 or WR3 with marginal fantasy value. The real guy to watch in TB is Stovall IMO.
Not being rational? I think most of these guys excited about Boston are taking him with there last pick. I dont think thats a bad risk, and certainly not irrational at all.
Nothing irrational about taking a flyer with your last pick. But lots of people are speaking in the threads on here with a lot more confidence about Boston starting and about what he will do. Sort of like a 'shark feeding frenzy.'
 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
That's the whole point; it isn't clear that he DID jump him. Some reporter is reporting that. What's his source? Did Gruden make an announcement? No. I put more stock in the team depth chart than in what some reporter says. Also, Stovall has much more upside and has had a good camp.
Are you sure about that.......I doubt he ever comes close to Boston's best year.
 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
Because it's all pretty meaningless at this point? Boston is playing more Galloway's position/routes. Stovall's competition (or lack of) is really coming from Clayton.
 
Boston started vs. NE, but even the TB announcers said that Stovall was #2.

Starters don't matter - that's the announced opening formation.

If a team starts in 3-wide, they announce 3 WRs. Doesn't mean they'll have 3 WRs every play.

 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
That's the whole point; it isn't clear that he DID jump him. Some reporter is reporting that. What's his source? Did Gruden make an announcement? No. I put more stock in the team depth chart than in what some reporter says. Also, Stovall has much more upside and has had a good camp.
Are you sure about that.......I doubt he ever comes close to Boston's best year.
what does that have to do with upside?
 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
That's the whole point; it isn't clear that he DID jump him. Some reporter is reporting that. What's his source? Did Gruden make an announcement? No. I put more stock in the team depth chart than in what some reporter says. Also, Stovall has much more upside and has had a good camp.
Are you sure about that.......I doubt he ever comes close to Boston's best year.
what does that have to do with upside?
Wouldn't you say that Bostons upside is something close to that. He has done it before. How can Stovall (7 career receptions) have more upside than a guy who has posted 98 rec and 1598 yards in a season. Boston has shown he can be great in the NFL.....Stovall has shown nothing.
 
We don't know if Boston can be great once more but we do know he was once capable of being a stud. Stovall has never shown he's capable of performing at such a high level. How anyone can say Stovall doesn't have a LOT more to prove is something I don't understand.

 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
That's the whole point; it isn't clear that he DID jump him. Some reporter is reporting that. What's his source? Did Gruden make an announcement? No. I put more stock in the team depth chart than in what some reporter says. Also, Stovall has much more upside and has had a good camp.
Are you sure about that.......I doubt he ever comes close to Boston's best year.
what does that have to do with upside?
Wouldn't you say that Bostons upside is something close to that. He has done it before. How can Stovall (7 career receptions) have more upside than a guy who has posted 98 rec and 1598 yards in a season. Boston has shown he can be great in the NFL.....Stovall has shown nothing.
:rolleyes: We have seen Boston's upside and Stovall is an unknown.
 
Funny. If Stovall is the guy to watch, how come Boston just jumped him in the starting lineup?
That's the whole point; it isn't clear that he DID jump him. Some reporter is reporting that. What's his source? Did Gruden make an announcement? No. I put more stock in the team depth chart than in what some reporter says. Also, Stovall has much more upside and has had a good camp.
Are you sure about that.......I doubt he ever comes close to Boston's best year.
what does that have to do with upside?
Wouldn't you say that Bostons upside is something close to that. He has done it before. How can Stovall (7 career receptions) have more upside than a guy who has posted 98 rec and 1598 yards in a season. Boston has shown he can be great in the NFL.....Stovall has shown nothing.
I dunno. His last 3 years are 4 receptions for 80 yards. His best year was when he was (allegedly) roiding. His best years are behind him.
 

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