Brady AND Moss owners (1 Viewer)

[NJ OAK]

The number one team in my league had the most haphazard and ignorant draft and waiver moves, but leads soundly. I did my homework and utiliized the DD and came away very happy with my team, but I might as well mail it in at this point. This is what he did at the #3 spot:

Frank Gore

Tom Brady

Torry Holt

Randy Moss

Donald Driver

Todd Heap

Chicago

Nate Kaeding

DeAngelo Williams

Brett Favre

Dallas

Neil Rackers

Vernand Morency

Greg Jennings

Leon Washington

Tony Scheffler

I was actually laughing out-loud watching his picks unfold. I guess he will have the last laugh now.

 

[switz]

The Brady and Moss owner in my league is .500

 

[shadyridr]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

 

[KoolKat]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

I know what he is saying, some guys are clearly unprepared yet come away with hugely successful teams. I have a guy like that in my league who drafted that way as well. He took Brees with his second pick and Romo with his 3rd pick. He is brand new to FF, but his team has been setting scoring records all year.

 

[Doug B]

A lot of people get caught up in thinking that the season's fantasy results should be knowable just from doing off-season/preseason research. Not so -- it's always a crapshoot.

 

[shadyridr]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

I know what he is saying, some guys are clearly unprepared yet come away with hugely successful teams. I have a guy like that in my league who drafted that way as well. He took Brees with his second pick and Romo with his 3rd pick. He is brand new to FF, but his team has been setting scoring records all year.

In that case you may be right, but in the OPs case his draft didnt look out of the ordinary at all.

 

[FavreCo]

Picking Brady AND Moss in a redraft is not luck. Having Moss at your doorstep in a dynasty league and having the Pats steal him is bad luck.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

I know what he is saying, some guys are clearly unprepared yet come away with hugely successful teams. I have a guy like that in my league who drafted that way as well. He took Brees with his second pick and Romo with his 3rd pick. He is brand new to FF, but his team has been setting scoring records all year.

In that case you may be right, but in the OPs case his draft didnt look out of the ordinary at all.

i totally agree with shady. the 1st seven rounds, adp was pretty close to where this person took them -- a round or two off for brady -- but certainly not eye-rolling.

 

[pigskinliquors]

The number one team in my league had the most haphazard and ignorant draft and waiver moves, but leads soundly. I did my homework and utiliized the DD and came away very happy with my team, but I might as well mail it in at this point. This is what he did at the #3 spot:Frank GoreTom BradyTorry HoltRandy MossDonald DriverTodd HeapChicagoNate KaedingDeAngelo WilliamsBrett FavreDallasNeil RackersVernand MorencyGreg JenningsLeon WashingtonTony SchefflerI was actually laughing out-loud watching his picks unfold. I guess he will have the last laugh now.

Who is he starting at RB?

 

[4 - Digit Shark]

At my local league draft, held the Saturday before the start of the season, our commish read a blurb from his computer that said Randy Moss may be CUT from NE, prior to the start of the season. The owner that had already drafted Moss (as the #14 WR off the board I believe) was sick for the remainded of the draft. Now, all of us who did not draft him are the ones who are sick.

You can do everything possible, read as much as humanly possible and think your the smartest person to ever play FFB, and still not succeed. This is not an exact science and never will be.

 

[PatsFan72]

It just means your research was wrong. It happens.

Many people thought Moss and Brady would be studs this year, many more people had apprehensions about Moss' years in OAK, Brady throwing to too many WRs, etc etc etc, they were wrong.

 

[timschochet]

I still think Moss and Brady's numbers go down to normal during those cold weather weeks of 14,15,16...

 

[moleculo]

 

[Eagle Eye]

I still think Moss and Brady's numbers go down to normal during those cold weather weeks of 14,15,16...

Yea, you were right to pass on them.

 

[mozzy84]

The number one team in my league had the most haphazard and ignorant draft and waiver moves, but leads soundly. I did my homework and utiliized the DD and came away very happy with my team, but I might as well mail it in at this point. This is what he did at the #3 spot:Frank GoreTom BradyTorry HoltRandy MossDonald DriverTodd HeapChicagoNate KaedingDeAngelo WilliamsBrett FavreDallasNeil RackersVernand MorencyGreg JenningsLeon WashingtonTony SchefflerI was actually laughing out-loud watching his picks unfold. I guess he will have the last laugh now.

that farve and jennings pick were pretty good, if gore wasnt such a buster and heap a gimp he would have had a really really good draft. Don't be a hater, just because you spend hours on end studying and cash on computer program isnt going to make your guys play better.

 

[Mr.Pack]

I still think Moss and Brady's numbers go down to normal during those cold weather weeks of 14,15,16...

Yea, you were right to pass on them.

 

[freeannyong]

The Brady and Moss owner in my league is .500

Only starting Brady and Moss every week?

 

[John Facenda]

He did wait too long to get his second RB, but imagine what kind of team he might have had if he hadn't drafted the "experts" pick at the 3 spot with Gore. Consider yourselves lucky he didn't take Addai at the spot.

 

[Cyclones]

The Brady and Moss owner in my league is .500

Only starting Brady and Moss every week?

Yeah, I call BS. The Brady and Moss owner in my league is 21-1 (we play doubleheaders.)

 

[Pick]

it's always a crapshoot.

Research may help a little but by and large FF is mostly about luck.

 

[thatguythere]

The Brady and Moss owner in my league is .500

Only starting Brady and Moss every week?

That's pretty much all they need. Brady/Moss owner in our league has lost a few games but won his eight this week. Has 84 points and 71 of them came from Brady/Moss...It's sickening but if it was me I would be smilin the whole way into the playoffs.

 

[NJ OAK]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

I know what he is saying, some guys are clearly unprepared yet come away with hugely successful teams. I have a guy like that in my league who drafted that way as well. He took Brees with his second pick and Romo with his 3rd pick. He is brand new to FF, but his team has been setting scoring records all year.

In that case you may be right, but in the OPs case his draft didnt look out of the ordinary at all.

i totally agree with shady. the 1st seven rounds, adp was pretty close to where this person took them -- a round or two off for brady -- but certainly not eye-rolling.

Are you out of your mind. Not only did he take a kicker IN ROUND 8 (entirely too early), but he actually took another one in round 12. Nobody with any sense of FF would draft like that, nobody. The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

it's always a crapshoot.

Research may help a little but by and large FF is mostly about luck.

You play the percentages based on the research, and whatever happens will be different. That you can count on.Randy Moss is great, but he was a high percentage risk to start as a WR1 or WR2 in preseason. This site had him ranked 30th. There were stories that he might be cut (seems like a joke now, but those reports were out there). In preseason, when prepping for re-draft leagues, we all want perceived top starters with low risk. FBGs helps frame those perceptions, and their rankings are solid based on the available information. The information available at the time was that Randy Moss was a risky pick.Sometimes too much information can lead to faulty analysis. The Moss owner in my league just "knew" Moss was going to be great. He probably didn't hear the reports of Randy possibly being cut, nor did he know or consider that Welker, Stallworth, etc. would mean the stats would be fairly dispersed and depressed based on a balanced NE offense. That lack of information allowed him to grab Moss in Rd 4, and he's benefitting as a result.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

I know what he is saying, some guys are clearly unprepared yet come away with hugely successful teams. I have a guy like that in my league who drafted that way as well. He took Brees with his second pick and Romo with his 3rd pick. He is brand new to FF, but his team has been setting scoring records all year.

In that case you may be right, but in the OPs case his draft didnt look out of the ordinary at all.

i totally agree with shady. the 1st seven rounds, adp was pretty close to where this person took them -- a round or two off for brady -- but certainly not eye-rolling.

Are you out of your mind. Not only did he take a kicker IN ROUND 8 (entirely too early), but he actually took another one in round 12. Nobody with any sense of FF would draft like that, nobody. The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

please go back and read my post. tia.

 

[NoFBinLA]

it's always a crapshoot.

Research may help a little but by and large FF is mostly about luck.

I'm sorry I need to interrupt this thread to compliment Pick on his logo.Team Watchmen! Yes I am a /tangentDon't see the big deal on the dude's draft either -0 just because he didn't go RB-RB-RB isn't any reason to think it so awful. Brady wasd a good #2 IMO this year, Moss was waaaaaay undervalued by most experts (I was bitter he went just before my pick in a few leagues) and Favre was a great backup.It's not perfect but I think it isn't a horrifc draft.

 

[Brother Mouzone]

One rook in our league this year drafted in the 2 spot. He took LJ/Moss/Brady/A.Peterson/DJax/Galloway etc...

We ALL thought it was a bad draft. Isn't that early for Moss/Brady/Peterson? Well apparently not. There's no reason to get sour because someone is now doing better than you because they didnt follow the projection sheet on footballguys.

Luck is usually the biggest part of any FF championship.

BTW this guy got 200 points the week ADP went for 290 and 3. Anyone ever seen a number that high? It is a PPR but 200!???

 

[MrJimiT]

The Brady/Moss owner in my league is 10-1 and had to come from behind against the Romo/Owens owner (9-2) to win. It was a twist of irony that these two teams had to play each other this week. Both of their point totals rank 1 and 2 all time in our 11 year history after yesterday's games and the most points scored in a game.

 

[Brother Mouzone]

The Brady/Moss owner in my league is 10-1 and had to come from behind against the Romo/Owens owner (9-2) to win. It was a twist of irony that these two teams had to play each other this week. Both of their point totals rank 1 and 2 all time in our 11 year history after yesterday's games and the most points scored in a game.

that's awesome. what has football come to??

 

[Brutis]

It just means your research was wrong. It happens.Many people thought Moss and Brady would be studs this year, many more people had apprehensions about Moss' years in OAK, Brady throwing to too many WRs, etc etc etc, they were wrong.

The people who are risk takers were the ones going after moss. Every year I see the conservative sharks always going the 'safe" route. Those are the guys who missed out.

 

[shredhead]

The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

It is just a hobby afterall. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Let it go, if your entry fee is more than you can afford to lose, then it's not a hobby anymore and you should be in a league that is comfortable financially. I consider my leagues' entry fees as the price for the entertainment (kinda like going out to the movies) I consider that money already spent. If I win some at the end of the season then great, if not, c'est la vie. It was a fun season regardless. I have the same philosophy when I go to Vegas. Never bet more than you can afford to lose. AND KEEP IT FUN!!!!!

 

[KoolKat]

The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

It is just a hobby afterall. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Let it go, if your entry fee is more than you can afford to lose, then it's not a hobby anymore and you should be in a league that is comfortable financially. I consider my leagues' entry fees as the price for the entertainment (kinda like going out to the movies) I consider that money already spent. If I win some at the end of the season then great, if not, c'est la vie. It was a fun season regardless. I have the same philosophy when I go to Vegas. Never bet more than you can afford to lose. AND KEEP IT FUN!!!!!

 

[shining path]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

I know what he is saying, some guys are clearly unprepared yet come away with hugely successful teams. I have a guy like that in my league who drafted that way as well. He took Brees with his second pick and Romo with his 3rd pick. He is brand new to FF, but his team has been setting scoring records all year.

In that case you may be right, but in the OPs case his draft didnt look out of the ordinary at all.

i totally agree with shady. the 1st seven rounds, adp was pretty close to where this person took them -- a round or two off for brady -- but certainly not eye-rolling.

Are you out of your mind. Not only did he take a kicker IN ROUND 8 (entirely too early), but he actually took another one in round 12. Nobody with any sense of FF would draft like that, nobody. The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

That's why you need to look at performance over several seasons, instead of just one.

 

[NJ OAK]

The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

It is just a hobby afterall. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Let it go, if your entry fee is more than you can afford to lose, then it's not a hobby anymore and you should be in a league that is comfortable financially. I consider my leagues' entry fees as the price for the entertainment (kinda like going out to the movies) I consider that money already spent. If I win some at the end of the season then great, if not, c'est la vie. It was a fun season regardless. I have the same philosophy when I go to Vegas. Never bet more than you can afford to lose. AND KEEP IT FUN!!!!!

I deliberately used the word 'hobby', but this is not needle-point, this is a weekly competition. And as such, naturally any competitive person would be bothered. Yeah, "KEEP IT FUN". I'm glad my actual professional teams I root for don't share that mentality. When you are in a league, whether it be recreation or not, if you don't want to win and your primary motivation is to just to keep it fun, that is SOFT.

 

[shredhead]

The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

It is just a hobby afterall. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Let it go, if your entry fee is more than you can afford to lose, then it's not a hobby anymore and you should be in a league that is comfortable financially. I consider my leagues' entry fees as the price for the entertainment (kinda like going out to the movies) I consider that money already spent. If I win some at the end of the season then great, if not, c'est la vie. It was a fun season regardless. I have the same philosophy when I go to Vegas. Never bet more than you can afford to lose. AND KEEP IT FUN!!!!!

I deliberately used the word 'hobby' so as not to seem too intense. But this is not needle-point, this is a weekly competition. And as such, naturally any competitive person would be bothered. Yeah, "KEEP IT FUN". I'm glad my actual professional teams I root for don't share that mentality. When you are in a league, whether it be recreation or not, if you don't want to win and your primary motivation is to just to keep it fun, that is SOFT.

Of course I want to win, and I have won the big purse a few times. I play in 3 leagues, but I am smart enough to know that I'm not going to win every league every year. Do I strive for it? You bet! Is it a realistic possibility? No. The difference is that I am not actually playing football. I am just drafting players and clicking mouse buttons to set my lineups. The rest of it is just luck and I don't sweat it that much. I see too many people take this hobby too seriously, that's why I posted my keep it fun comment. I do and I disagree with you about keeping it fun being soft. You can be serious and try hard at something and still keep it fun without being soft!

 

[shining path]

The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

It is just a hobby afterall. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Let it go, if your entry fee is more than you can afford to lose, then it's not a hobby anymore and you should be in a league that is comfortable financially. I consider my leagues' entry fees as the price for the entertainment (kinda like going out to the movies) I consider that money already spent. If I win some at the end of the season then great, if not, c'est la vie. It was a fun season regardless. I have the same philosophy when I go to Vegas. Never bet more than you can afford to lose. AND KEEP IT FUN!!!!!

I deliberately used the word 'hobby' so as not to seem too intense. But this is not needle-point, this is a weekly competition. And as such, naturally any competitive person would be bothered. Yeah, "KEEP IT FUN". I'm glad my actual professional teams I root for don't share that mentality. When you are in a league, whether it be recreation or not, if you don't want to win and your primary motivation is to just to keep it fun, that is SOFT.

Of course I want to win, and I have won the big purse a few times. I play in 3 leagues, but I am smart enough to know that I'm not going to win every league every year. Do I strive for it? You bet! Is it a realistic possibility? No. The difference is that I am not actually playing football. I am just drafting players and clicking mouse buttons to set my lineups.

SOFT

 

[th3f00l]

I got Steven Jackson as one and cedric benson as two, fitz as 3 then donald driver... My top picks choked on me, except fitz, and my season is barely in recovery. John madden always said Don't worry about the horse being blind, just load the wagon.

 

[switz]

The Brady and Moss owner in my league is .500

Only starting Brady and Moss every week?

Yeah, I call BS. The Brady and Moss owner in my league is 21-1 (we play doubleheaders.)

My League Rosters

Tim Conti - Tim ContiPlayer	YTD Pts	ByeBrady, Tom NEP QB (P *)	339	10Favre, Brett GBP QB	226	7Kitna, Jon DET QB (P *)	158	6Grant, Ryan GBP RB	52	7James, Edgerrin ARI RB	106	8Jones, Kevin DET RB	69	6Watson, Kenny CIN RB	86	5White, LenDale TEN RB	89	4Evans, Lee BUF WR	77	6Jennings, Greg GBP WR	119	7Moss, Randy NEP WR	224	10Smith, Steve CAR WR (Q *)	111	7White, Roddy ATL WR	76	8Williams, Roy DET WR	104	6Crumpler, Alge ATL TE	39	8Hanson, Jason DET PK	127	6Bears, Chicago CHI Def	137	9Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def	117	518 Total Players

My league standings

League StandingsPayton 	Franchise	W-L-T	Pct	Div W-L-T	GB	Strk	PF	Avg PF	PA	Avg PABuffalo Chargers	8-3-0	.727	3-1-0	0.0	W5	1242	112.9	1053	95.7Tim Conti	6-5-0	.545	3-1-0	2.0	W1	1281	116.5	1227	111.5Mike Conti	4-7-0	.364	2-2-0	4.0	L5	877	79.7	1097	99.7weak heart	2-9-0	.182	0-4-0	6.0	L1	807	73.4	1177	107.0Sanders 	Franchise	W-L-T	Pct	Div W-L-T	GB	Strk	PF	Avg PF	PA	Avg PAMichael Stefanski	8-3-0	.727	3-1-0	0.0	W5	1245	113.2	971	88.3Goodell's Good Guys	8-3-0	.727	3-1-0	0.0	W1	1140	103.6	895	81.4HeavyT	4-7-0	.364	2-2-0	4.0	L5	955	86.8	1010	91.8Pruebacca	3-8-0	.273	0-4-0	5.0	L1	906	82.4	1082	98.4Brown 	Franchise	W-L-T	Pct	Div W-L-T	GB	Strk	PF	Avg PF	PA	Avg PAComeback Kid	10-1-0	.909	4-0-0	0.0	W8	1123	102.1	857	77.9The Titleist's	7-4-0	.636	2-2-0	3.0	L1	1132	102.9	956	86.9Marcus Thompson	4-7-0	.364	2-2-0	6.0	L2	1002	91.1	1164	105.8Hey Big Man!	2-9-0	.182	0-4-0	8.0	W1	826	75.1	1047	95.2

FYI, I'm the Buffalo Chargers

 

[shredhead]

The point I am trying to make is that this hobby is overwhelmingly driven by luck and it bothers me. I don't think I am alone.

It is just a hobby afterall. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Let it go, if your entry fee is more than you can afford to lose, then it's not a hobby anymore and you should be in a league that is comfortable financially. I consider my leagues' entry fees as the price for the entertainment (kinda like going out to the movies) I consider that money already spent. If I win some at the end of the season then great, if not, c'est la vie. It was a fun season regardless. I have the same philosophy when I go to Vegas. Never bet more than you can afford to lose. AND KEEP IT FUN!!!!!

I deliberately used the word 'hobby' so as not to seem too intense. But this is not needle-point, this is a weekly competition. And as such, naturally any competitive person would be bothered. Yeah, "KEEP IT FUN". I'm glad my actual professional teams I root for don't share that mentality. When you are in a league, whether it be recreation or not, if you don't want to win and your primary motivation is to just to keep it fun, that is SOFT.

Of course I want to win, and I have won the big purse a few times. I play in 3 leagues, but I am smart enough to know that I'm not going to win every league every year. Do I strive for it? You bet! Is it a realistic possibility? No. The difference is that I am not actually playing football. I am just drafting players and clicking mouse buttons to set my lineups.

SOFT

Good one!

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Hell, my brother led the league yesterday with Moss and Owens as his WR1 and WR2. Add in Favre and he put up huge numbers.

Problems is he has no rbs - so he sits on great WRs but a crapshoot of Foster, Selvin Young, and Cedric Benson for his RB1, 2 and flex.

 

[eom]

if you're letting a team beat you w/one guy you should hang yourself.

every year there's going to be some superstud, and a lot of those years you won't have him.

 

[zoonation]

if you're letting a team beat you w/one guy you should hang yourself.

every year there's going to be some superstud, and a lot of those years you won't have him.

I see you are totally obtuse in other ways, too.You should use the preview function more. read what you have written and ask yourself if you should really represent yourself like that. I hope this helps.

 

[Black]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

Cause his draft was ceeeeerrap. Kicker and defense waayy to early, etc. etc.Just dumb luck...as alot of FF is.

 

[Eagle Eye]

This thread is hilarious. The guy who drafted Moss did so because of a lack of information.

The guy whooped your arses because he identified a situation overflowing with value in Brady and Moss. You followed your ADP charts and probably ended up with a nice little team and think you're better.

 

[shadyridr]

Why was his draft luck? Just cuz you didnt agree with his picks?

Cause his draft was ceeeeerrap. Kicker and defense waayy to early, etc. etc.Just dumb luck...as alot of FF is.

He got Chicago Def in the 7th round. Their ADP was in the 5th round. Sounds like he got great value to me.

 

[Doug B]

The guy whooped your arses because he identified a situation overflowing with value in Brady and Moss.

No. Impossible. Nobody identified their current value in August. I refuse to believe that.Feeling they'd be good is one thing. The blind luck would be in the record-shattering TD paces. NOBODY saw a 55-TD pace coming out Brady. NOBODY saw a 25-TD pace coming out of Randy Moss.

What you wrote means essentially that "some of us saw it coming". No way. Don't believe it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I was ahead 130-50 yesterday afternoon to the Brady/Moss owner in my league...surely I was good with a PK and defense yet to play...fast forward to Brady and Moss connecting 4 times and I end up losing 143-142 last night...WOOHOO!!! That pretty much ended my run at the division, maybe I can clip him in the playoffs...but his whole team is Brady/Moss.

 

[Reaper]

it's always a crapshoot.

Research may help a little but by and large FF is mostly about luck.

I think this year was LESS about luck than others... It's not like the guy who "Lucked" into the #1 pick took LT and ran away with it...This year you could have had Brady or Moss at any spot in your draft.... But, yeah, I know Pats fans who were even Tentative on Moss and that "MOSS POSSIBLE CUT" article was around.And also this year with all the injuries, If you stayed on top of your waiver wire, there were tons of opportunities to grab RB's through the whole injury mess....There was opportunity this year and making the right moves with the waiver wire and your lineup each week could keep you in the running and once you make the playoffs anything can happen.... Still The Pats might rest players, injuries might happen... It's not over....The guy and team with the most luck so far can crash an Burn on one play.

 

[Johnny Ryall]

The number one team in my league had the most haphazard and ignorant draft and waiver moves, but leads soundly. I did my homework and utiliized the DD and came away very happy with my team, but I might as well mail it in at this point. This is what he did at the #3 spot:Frank GoreTom BradyTorry HoltRandy MossDonald DriverTodd HeapChicagoNate KaedingDeAngelo WilliamsBrett FavreDallasNeil RackersVernand MorencyGreg JenningsLeon WashingtonTony SchefflerI was actually laughing out-loud watching his picks unfold. I guess he will have the last laugh now.

Other than waiting too long for a 2nd RB, I also fail to see what was so wrong with this draft. So what if he took a backup DEF & K "too early"? Your league also let him get Jennings 14th rd which was absurd value!So he didn't use VBD, Stud RB, ABCDEFG, or whatever other drafting methods the herd subscribes to. Is that a reason to mock him and call his drafting haphazard and ignorant? There's certainly more than one way to win in this game. Maybe next year you should look at how you draft, step outside of your comfortable little DD/VBD world, and try something different as well. It can be rather refreshing.

 

[Cixelsyd]

Brady and Moss is not Dumb Luck... Brady was a top rated QB... its a common strategy to pair the WR with a top QB...except in New Englands case until this year. Moss was definately an upside pick... Any Brady owner should have targeted Moss...

Injurys this year make the Brady Moss combo even more potent. In our big money league that gives extra points for long TD's (12 pts for over 50 yards) the Brady Moss owner is 10-2 (double header in week 11)... fortunately I gave him his only 2 losses... and he still is 2 games up on me.

Sometimes you roll the dice and make the number...

 

[The Man with the Plan]

I can see not drafting Brady. He was going too high for a qb. In hindsight now it looks good but I don't ever see myself drafting Tom Brady or any quarterback in the 2nd-3rd round. That's just not how I roll.

On the other hand I'm surprised that most people didn't see Randy Moss coming. The bull#### reasons were funny though. The Patriots spread the ball around. He's lost a step at 30. Or that 1 day rumor that he might be cut. Even if all of that was true for where he was drafted he was at least worth the risk.

If you passed on Randy Moss in the 3rd round you messed up. If you passed him up in the 4th round Randy Moss you ####ed up. And if he went later than that and you still didn't draft him then well.