Brady going for the TD Pass Record? (1 Viewer)

[Gerg73]

I found it interesting that the Pats went for it on 4th and Goal against the Browns last week while up 10 points in the 4th Quarter. The Browns had just scored to make it 27-17 and the Pats then drove down all the way inside the Browns 4 yard line.

4-4-CLE 4 57) NE 50-Vrabel eligible. 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 88-K.Brady [78-E.Kelley].

There were only 57 seconds left. If they kick a filed goal ther, the game's basically over. But they tried for a cheap TD pass.

So, that had me wondering if Bellicheck and Brady want the Record? He's on pace to break it right now.

 

[jafo]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

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As with all their other past and future accomplishments.

 

[twitch]

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As with all their other past and future accomplishments.

so, incredibly, 12 year old WEAK. to answer the question as sarcastically as humanly possible, YES, he's all about the records, he hates Cleveland because they never drafted him, and he really wanted to beat them by 30. did he complete the pass? do you think he would have in a big game? think.

 

[Tecumseh]

I just figured it was a not-so-subtle shot at Romeo. It's no secret that Bill doesn't like it when "his" coaches leave the nest.

 

[Ozymandias]

I found it interesting that the Pats went for it on 4th and Goal against the Browns last week while up 10 points in the 4th Quarter. The Browns had just scored to make it 27-17 and the Pats then drove down all the way inside the Browns 4 yard line.

4-4-CLE 4 57) NE 50-Vrabel eligible. 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 88-K.Brady [78-E.Kelley].

There were only 57 seconds left. If they kick a filed goal ther, the game's basically over. But they tried for a cheap TD pass.

So, that had me wondering if Bellicheck and Brady want the Record? He's on pace to break it right now.

Yes, right. We mustn't do anything to hurt people's feelings. No dodgeball, no winners in games, everyone must feel good. Just touchy feely claptrap. Teams shouldn't try their best if it's going to mean someone will cry.

 

[switz]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

 

[bostonfred]

Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

My friend Tommy wasn't very good at sports, and his mom sounded just like this when she was yelling at the bigger boys.

 

[twitch]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

its really pretty simple. nobody likes a hater.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

its really pretty simple. nobody likes a hater cheater.

Fixed.

 

[raidergil]

They also threw a 50 yard bomb to Moss with about 7 min left, up 31-7 on Buffalo a couple wks ago. Going for BCS points I guess.

 

[shakeybarn]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

 

[bostonfred]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

its really pretty simple. nobody likes a hater cheater.

Fixed.

Aren't you a Steelers* fan? There's no more fraudulent team in sports history than the steroid era cheaters of yesteryear.

 

[shakeybarn]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?I remember Steve Young... going deep to Deion Sanders in the SB (just missing too)... when they had already destroyed the Chargers.SF was up 49-20 with about 5 minutes or so left... Young already had the record 6 TD passes... and here he was tooooooootally airing it out.

 

[brock]

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As with all their other past and future accomplishments.

just like pitts super bowl win since they wouldnt have won without the help from the refs

 

[brock]

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

damn youre bitter bill must have tagged your wife

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

its really pretty simple. nobody likes a hater cheater.

Fixed.

Aren't you a Steelers* fan? There's no more fraudulent team in sports history than the steroid era cheaters of yesteryear.

You sure about that? when did the NFL outlaw steroids?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Also, I think this thread will end well.

 

[jonessed]

I found it interesting that the Pats went for it on 4th and Goal against the Browns last week while up 10 points in the 4th Quarter. The Browns had just scored to make it 27-17 and the Pats then drove down all the way inside the Browns 4 yard line.

4-4-CLE 4 57) NE 50-Vrabel eligible. 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 88-K.Brady [78-E.Kelley].

There were only 57 seconds left. If they kick a filed goal ther, the game's basically over. But they tried for a cheap TD pass.

So, that had me wondering if Bellicheck and Brady want the Record? He's on pace to break it right now.

They did it in the 4th quarter against SD as well. I imagine that is what they are shooting for. Both times the games were well over.

 

[tombonneau]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

 

[yesitsme]

The field goal would have only put them up 13, that's useless.

They aren't good enough on 4th down to run it in from there, so what would you do?

Maybe run and kick the field goal? There's probably a 99 percent chance they'd still win the game but Coach Belichick isn't about risking anything. If anything, he'll risk it the other way. He has went against NFL rules to try and get an edge on teams. It's cost him a sizeable amount of money as well as a draft pick.

This guy isn't about giving people chances. I don't say the above to bring up the video incident to rub things in but just a fact we're not dealing with a guy that plans on showing any mercy.

The field goal was of no help. He'd rather try and pass the ball into the endzone to either go up by 3 scores or turn it over trying , period. It's really a black and white issue. Didn't matter if Brady had 5 Td's or zero td's that game, it was about the situation and the type of person he is, whether you like him or not.

 

[switz]

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

damn youre bitter bill must have tagged your wife :X

No, not bitter. That's just Bill's way. I didn't say it was god or bad, did I?Maybe you missed hte point where I said they had a good team...

 

[Truman]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.

My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

its really pretty simple. nobody likes a hater cheater.

Fixed.

Aren't you a Steelers* fan? There's no more fraudulent team in sports history than the steroid era cheaters of yesteryear.

Steroids were legal at the time.

 

[switz]

The field goal would have only put them up 13, that's useless.They aren't good enough on 4th down to run it in from there, so what would you do?Maybe run and kick the field goal? There's probably a 99 percent chance they'd still win the game but Coach Belichick isn't about risking anything. If anything, he'll risk it the other way. He has went against NFL rules to try and get an edge on teams. It's cost him a sizeable amount of money as well as a draft pick.This guy isn't about giving people chances. I don't say the above to bring up the video incident to rub things in but just a fact we're not dealing with a guy that plans on showing any mercy.The field goal was of no help. He'd rather try and pass the ball into the endzone to either go up by 3 scores or turn it over trying , period. It's really a black and white issue. Didn't matter if Brady had 5 Td's or zero td's that game, it was about the situation and the type of person he is, whether you like him or not.

Exactly. That's what I said... wait, you must be bitter too

 

[Assani Fisher]

They were up 2 scores. A FG and they're still up 2 scores. A TD and they're up 3 scores.

What exactly am I missing here? A TD ended up the game. A FG meant that a TD, onside recover, and a TD would win it. Moreover, even if you miss it on 4th down you leave them needing 99 yards. I think it was the right decision.

 

[switz]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

That would be different, but from the game log it showed there were 57 seconds left to play, not "just under two minutes." There was no way the Browns were going to score 2 TDs in less than a minute.

 

[tombonneau]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

That would be different, but from the game log it showed there were 57 seconds left to play, not "just under two minutes." There was no way the Browns were going to score 2 TDs in less than a minute.

The difference between 1 minute or 1:45 is mostly irrelevant when the scoring risk you are facing is a quick score via a good KO return/KO for a TD.

 

[switz]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

That would be different, but from the game log it showed there were 57 seconds left to play, not "just under two minutes." There was no way the Browns were going to score 2 TDs in less than a minute.

The difference between 1 minute or 1:45 is mostly irrelevant when the scoring risk you are facing is a quick score via a good KO return/KO for a TD.

We are talking about the Browns here, right? Or did I miss something and we started talking about a good ST team.

 

[tombonneau]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

That would be different, but from the game log it showed there were 57 seconds left to play, not "just under two minutes." There was no way the Browns were going to score 2 TDs in less than a minute.

The difference between 1 minute or 1:45 is mostly irrelevant when the scoring risk you are facing is a quick score via a good KO return/KO for a TD.

We are talking about the Browns here, right? Or did I miss something and we started talking about a good ST team.

Joe Cribbs is one of the best KO returners in the league. BB went out of his way to praise him in his weekly pressers.ETA: Oops, his name is Josh. #6 in KO avg. with 31.8. 1 TD this year and 3 returns of 40+ yards, one of only 3 KRs with 3+ 40+ yrd returns.

 

[yesitsme]

The field goal would have only put them up 13, that's useless.They aren't good enough on 4th down to run it in from there, so what would you do?Maybe run and kick the field goal? There's probably a 99 percent chance they'd still win the game but Coach Belichick isn't about risking anything. If anything, he'll risk it the other way. He has went against NFL rules to try and get an edge on teams. It's cost him a sizeable amount of money as well as a draft pick.This guy isn't about giving people chances. I don't say the above to bring up the video incident to rub things in but just a fact we're not dealing with a guy that plans on showing any mercy.The field goal was of no help. He'd rather try and pass the ball into the endzone to either go up by 3 scores or turn it over trying , period. It's really a black and white issue. Didn't matter if Brady had 5 Td's or zero td's that game, it was about the situation and the type of person he is, whether you like him or not.

Exactly. That's what I said... wait, you must be bitter too

No, not bitter......jealous if anything. I wish the guy coached my favorite team. He's not in the business of making friends. Since he's not on the team I like, I respect him and dislike him at the same time.Great coach........I don't remember Vince Lombardi but something tells me he probably would have done the same thing. Probably would have said something like, "What the hell's the matter with you. Kicking the field goal does you know good. You go for it and don't get it and they still have to get 2 scores and go 90 yards on the best defense in football."

 

[switz]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

That would be different, but from the game log it showed there were 57 seconds left to play, not "just under two minutes." There was no way the Browns were going to score 2 TDs in less than a minute.

The difference between 1 minute or 1:45 is mostly irrelevant when the scoring risk you are facing is a quick score via a good KO return/KO for a TD.

We are talking about the Browns here, right? Or did I miss something and we started talking about a good ST team.

Joe Cribbs is one of the best KO returners in the league. BB went out of his way to praise him in his weekly pressers.ETA: Oops, his name is Josh. #6 in KO avg. with 31.8. 1 TD this year and 3 returns of 40+ yards, one of only 3 KRs with 3+ 40+ yrd returns.

You got your post in just as I was replying... Cribbs is pretty good, but that's why you don't kick to him in that situation. To be honest, I didn't think Cribbs was as good as his stats seem to indicate.

 

[Ksquared]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

 

[tombonneau]

The bomb to Moss in the Bills game was a bit more running up the score than Cleveland.

The Browns game they were up 10 with a little under 2 min to play. A FG you're still up only 2 scores. Then you'd have to kickoff and risk a big run back, quick score, and onside kick.

A TD and the game is over. Plus, if you dont' get it the other team has the ball at the 2 & they probably aren't gonna go anywhere, which they didn't.

That was just smart coaching.

But I could understand how it looked like an attempt to run up the score since NFL fans don't get to see enough smart coaching.

That would be different, but from the game log it showed there were 57 seconds left to play, not "just under two minutes." There was no way the Browns were going to score 2 TDs in less than a minute.

The difference between 1 minute or 1:45 is mostly irrelevant when the scoring risk you are facing is a quick score via a good KO return/KO for a TD.

We are talking about the Browns here, right? Or did I miss something and we started talking about a good ST team.

Joe Cribbs is one of the best KO returners in the league. BB went out of his way to praise him in his weekly pressers.ETA: Oops, his name is Josh. #6 in KO avg. with 31.8. 1 TD this year and 3 returns of 40+ yards, one of only 3 KRs with 3+ 40+ yrd returns.

You got your post in just as I was replying... Cribbs is pretty good, but that's why you don't kick to him in that situation. To be honest, I didn't think Cribbs was as good as his stats seem to indicate.

Well to start the year off he certainly has been the beneficiary of volume.

 

[yesitsme]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

You're absolutely correct, he does want to dominate. Tell me a coach in the league that doesn't want to dominate?

 

[yesitsme]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

Yes, they would fault Manning for doing it as well. Maybe this will be a little eye opener for Patriot fans that their team isn't above doing those things either. They've done some dirty deeds this year and they're willing to do anything to win and they're not afraid to throw the ball from the first second of the game till the last.Teams need to know and expect that when they play them. Be prepared to play 4 quarters against the Patriots and they won't stop playing until there's absolutely no chance you aren't coming back. Until that point, play ball.

 

[switz]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

You're absolutely correct, he does want to dominate. Tell me a coach in the league that doesn't want to dominate?

I'd say there are quite a number of coaches who want to win, but not dominate. It's called sportsmanship.

 

[BeachBums]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

Yes, they would fault Manning for doing it as well. Maybe this will be a little eye opener for Patriot fans that their team isn't above doing those things either. They've done some dirty deeds this year and they're willing to do anything to win and they're not afraid to throw the ball from the first second of the game till the last.Teams need to know and expect that when they play them. Be prepared to play 4 quarters against the Patriots and they won't stop playing until there's absolutely no chance you aren't coming back. Until that point, play ball.

Up by 10 with 57 seconds left is pretty close to 'absolutely no chance.' Up 13 with 50 seconds left is this far || from impossible.

 

[yesitsme]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

You're absolutely correct, he does want to dominate. Tell me a coach in the league that doesn't want to dominate?

I'd say there are quite a number of coaches who want to win, but not dominate. It's called sportsmanship.

Well, I would have to disagree with you. In fact, if I was a GM of a 150 million dollar organization and I'm interviewing my a coach. If I ask him, would you like to dominate........and he replies with the answer NO, his butt is out the door, I promise you that.He might say I most certainly would sir, but I'd do so with as much honor and respect as I can.....I'd listen. But to say NO, I don't want to dominate wouldn't make it with me.

 

[switz]

No, they were trying to win. Only Peyton Manning tries to pad his stats.

No I kinda thought that too. I wouldn't put it past BB. There is a difference between all-time greatness and "just" greatness. They'd run up a SB score to 60 if they could. Would you fault them?

Many people would fault it if it was Manning doing it. Not surprisingly many of them are these same Patriot apologists. I don't believe I have ever seen Indy go for the bomb when they are up by 24 and less than 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr. That pass along with the attempted 4th down throw with less than a minute to go shows NE is trying to run up the score and get the TD passing record IMHO. In the past BB would probably have ran up the score every chance he could if he had the offensive weapons he has now. I think Switz was correct earlier, BB wants to dominate not just win.

You're absolutely correct, he does want to dominate. Tell me a coach in the league that doesn't want to dominate?

I'd say there are quite a number of coaches who want to win, but not dominate. It's called sportsmanship.

Well, I would have to disagree with you. In fact, if I was a GM of a 150 million dollar organization and I'm interviewing my a coach. If I ask him, would you like to dominate........and he replies with the answer NO, his butt is out the door, I promise you that.He might say I most certainly would sir, but I'd do so with as much honor and respect as I can.....I'd listen. But to say NO, I don't want to dominate wouldn't make it with me.

Are you a GM of a 150 million dollar organization?

 

[DrJ]

How is benching your players, or not running your actual offense "sportsmanlike". Wouldn't the opposing team feel better if you were actually trying to score more, suggesting you respect them enough to think they could come back on you? Or is putting your backups in or kneeling on the ball and saying "there's no chance your puny squad could win anymore, this game is done" supposed to make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

Not sure I understand how playing the game in a non cheating fashion is unsportsmanlike.

 

[valhallan]

Yeah I think the Pats care about records. They threw Testaverde in just so he could keep his streak of throwing a TD pass in 20 straight seasons alive.

 

[PahtyTom]

YOU PLAY, TO WIN, THE GAME

 

[twitch]

How is benching your players, or not running your actual offense "sportsmanlike". Wouldn't the opposing team feel better if you were actually trying to score more, suggesting you respect them enough to think they could come back on you? Or is putting your backups in or kneeling on the ball and saying "there's no chance your puny squad could win anymore, this game is done" supposed to make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside? Not sure I understand how playing the game in a non cheating fashion is unsportsmanlike.

Dr J-you seem to know what youre talking about. and you make sense. the reason you dont understand is because youre obviously not a worthess, knuckehead hater.

 

[Pskov1420]

As already alluded to, they were going for the TD because it made sense to in that situation. Kicking a field goal is pointless, you're now up 13 instead of 10, still two scores. A kick return for a TD and then a successful onside kick and the opposition would need two first downs to attempt a tying FG. Even though there is only maybe a 2% chance of that happening it is still a possible scenario. That's why you go for the TD, because if you make it you guarantee victory. If you decide not to go for it on 4th down in that situation then IMHO you're not a competent head coach.

Edit: And for the record, not a Pats fan and never had a problem with Manning throwing at the goal line in his record season. That season he was just so phenomenal and Edge wasn't getting it done as consistently as in the past that again, it just made sense from a coaching point of view.

And besides, if you don't like teams running up the score in the 4th quarter, then don't let them beat you in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

 

[DropKick]

What shocks me is that I though many of you understood football. My mistake.

57 seconds.. up by 10... on the 4 yard line... chance to pick up a first down too I believe.

You run your offense, if that's a conservative pass then so be it.

They pick up a first, they kneel down. Game over. No running up of the score.

They get stopped, the Browns have ~96 yards to go, little time and need two scores. Plus you avoid the potential quick special teams score.

Are we this stupid or does the hate of the patriots make us blind?

 

[Steeler07]

LOL - How defensive Pats fans are. It's like you guys can't even be happy that you have a good team. Something has to be bad. Too funny.My take - yeah, Bill wants Brady to hold the record. Bill wants to be the best at everything. That's just him. So screw sportsmanship, screw friendliness, hell screw playing fair. Win. Don't just win, dominate. If you opponent is down, don't just be happy you beat him down, kick him, and if he doesn't whimper enough, kick him until he does.

its really pretty simple. nobody likes a hater.

Nobody likes a cheater, outside Boston at least.

 

[mad sweeney]

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As with all their other past and future accomplishments.

so, incredibly, 12 year old WEAK. to answer the question as sarcastically as humanly possible, YES, he's all about the records, he hates Cleveland because they never drafted him, and he really wanted to beat them by 30. did he complete the pass? do you think he would have in a big game? think.

Any asterisk from an Asterisk Bowl Champion is funny too.Even though he's right. Hmmmm, the master of halftime adjustments and videotape, probably no correlation.

 

[Torque666]

Stat padder.

 

[twitch]

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As with all their other past and future accomplishments.

so, incredibly, 12 year old WEAK. to answer the question as sarcastically as humanly possible, YES, he's all about the records, he hates Cleveland because they never drafted him, and he really wanted to beat them by 30. did he complete the pass? do you think he would have in a big game? think.

Any asterisk from an Asterisk Bowl Champion is funny too.Even though he's right. Hmmmm, the master of halftime adjustments and videotape, probably no correlation.

exhibit A.

 

[njxbean]

i think they were trying to cover the spread. it was 16.5. with that TD they cover. Turns out they ended up covering with that td reception. thank god because i bet them to cover!! might do it again this week!