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A bit misleading though.

How many of those carries were the last few that made the Jets use their timeouts?

IMO, there is no real uptick in carries. He will likely continue to be a 12-17 carry kind of guy for Green Bay. Sprinkle in 5-10 for Kuhn depending on if the run is working and they are winning.

 
THE FANTASY KING said:
The wall is covered in writing.Regards,THE FANTASY KING
You said this 3+ weeks ago...and he's still putting up 7 fantasy points per game.If by "writing" you mean "BRANDON JACKSON IS AN AVERAGE NFL RB AT BEST AND IF THE PACK HAD ANY DEPTH AT THE POSITION WHATSOEVER, HE'D BE STANDING ON THE SIDELINES IN A JACKET" - then I agree.
 
A bit misleading though.How many of those carries were the last few that made the Jets use their timeouts?IMO, there is no real uptick in carries. He will likely continue to be a 12-17 carry kind of guy for Green Bay. Sprinkle in 5-10 for Kuhn depending on if the run is working and they are winning.
Yea I agree. And even if he does get an uptick in carries, he will still be mediocre with those carries. The more carries he gets the lower I see his YPC going. I guess you could sell high. But high for BJ is probably low RB2 value at best. Regardless of the carries he gets.
 
A bit misleading though.How many of those carries were the last few that made the Jets use their timeouts?IMO, there is no real uptick in carries. He will likely continue to be a 12-17 carry kind of guy for Green Bay. Sprinkle in 5-10 for Kuhn depending on if the run is working and they are winning.
? No uptick?7, 9,10,12,13,15. Not a math whiz, but pretty sure thats a trend.
 
A bit misleading though.How many of those carries were the last few that made the Jets use their timeouts?IMO, there is no real uptick in carries. He will likely continue to be a 12-17 carry kind of guy for Green Bay. Sprinkle in 5-10 for Kuhn depending on if the run is working and they are winning.
? No uptick?7, 9,10,12,13,15. Not a math whiz, but pretty sure thats a trend.
10-13 is a trend? Really, 3 more carries than 2 weeks before that is some uptick?The 15 is what I am explaining.3 of those 15 were in the final 4 minutes when GB was trying to milk clock and get the Jets to use their timeouts.As I said, he will likely continue in that 12-17 carry per game area.If McCarthy won't give him more carries than he did against Minnesota and Washington...why would he do so in the future unless he is trying to save him up for the stretch?Im just not seeing some big trend because carries have gone up 1 or 2 from the previous game.
 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
So if you expect that to be a regular occurrence, pencil in Jackson for 15-17 carries a game. If you don't (I don't) then expect 12-15 a game. ;)
 
I think the OP's point is that Jackson has steadily been getting more and more involved with the Packers Offense. More importantly, he has actually started to look a little better too. That is to say, he has gone from looking completely horrible, to now being unspectacularly average.

There's some reason to believe he has just taken some time to settle into the starting RB role with the Packers. Everyone expects first year starters at QB or WR to struggle, but RBs are expected to produce right away or they are written off. It's important to think about this going forward since he could be a viable RB2 and has a very tasty matchup at Detroit in Week 14, which is the week most fantasy playoffs start.

Just my :shrug:

 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
I agree. Saying "If you take out his garbage time runs" is kind of like saying "if you take out his 60 yard run he only averaged 3 YPC." If, if, if...
 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
I agree. Saying "If you take out his garbage time runs" is kind of like saying "if you take out his 60 yard run he only averaged 3 YPC." If, if, if...
Exactly. The fact that they actually used Jackson to grind out the clock is significant in and of itself.
 
The wall is covered in writing.Regards,THE FANTASY KING
You said this 3+ weeks ago...and he's still putting up 7 fantasy points per game.If by "writing" you mean "BRANDON JACKSON IS AN AVERAGE NFL RB AT BEST AND IF THE PACK HAD ANY DEPTH AT THE POSITION WHATSOEVER, HE'D BE STANDING ON THE SIDELINES IN A JACKET" - then I agree.
Hello Poster,He is putting up flex numbers in PPR leagues right now, which is a substantial improvement from his outlook "3+ weeks ago" when people insisted that Kuhn, Starks, and even Marshawn Lynch were about to swoop in and take the job.By "writing" I mean he is the primary ball carrier for the Packers, which most of the Posters on this forum did not see coming. If you do not want my help, feel free to avoid it.Regards,THE FANTASY KING
 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
So if you expect that to be a regular occurrence, pencil in Jackson for 15-17 carries a game. If you don't (I don't) then expect 12-15 a game. :blackdot:
There is no good reason to differentiate between these carries unless you do the same for every player. If so, I would be interested in seeing those numbers.Regards,

THE FANTASY KING

 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
So if you expect that to be a regular occurrence, pencil in Jackson for 15-17 carries a game. If you don't (I don't) then expect 12-15 a game. :yes:
There is no good reason to differentiate between these carries unless you do the same for every player. If so, I would be interested in seeing those numbers.
I actually do take a look at situational carries with each player, because it allows a more accurate picture for projections. Regards,

Me

 
The wall is covered in writing.Regards,THE FANTASY KING
You said this 3+ weeks ago...and he's still putting up 7 fantasy points per game.If by "writing" you mean "BRANDON JACKSON IS AN AVERAGE NFL RB AT BEST AND IF THE PACK HAD ANY DEPTH AT THE POSITION WHATSOEVER, HE'D BE STANDING ON THE SIDELINES IN A JACKET" - then I agree.
Hello Poster,He is putting up flex numbers in PPR leagues right now, which is a substantial improvement from his outlook "3+ weeks ago" when people insisted that Kuhn, Starks, and even Marshawn Lynch were about to swoop in and take the job.By "writing" I mean he is the primary ball carrier for the Packers, which most of the Posters on this forum did not see coming. If you do not want my help, feel free to avoid it.Regards,THE FANTASY KING
I, as well as others, actually thought that Jackson would be the primary ball carrier - but that he was still a mediocre-at-best talent. Meaning he'd produce...about 7 fantasty points/game with an occasional TD - which is exactly what he is producing. I don't play in PPR leagues - nor do a majority a FBGs (there have been polls done to verify that fact - feel free to use the "search" functionality). As such, he is basically a bye week filler - and at 7 PPG, a weak one at that. Bye weeks are almost up...as is Jackson's usefulness from a FF perspective.Hugs and Kisses,DoubleG
 
It's not one or two games with just one or two carries more. It's 6 games in a row.
The game with 15 carries would have been 12 carries if they weren't grinding out the clock at the end. Hence over the past 4 weeks or so, he really hasn't seen much of an increase. It's not reasonable to expect a jump from 12-13 carries to 20 or so which he'd need to have more of an impact than a middling RB.Jackson has improved a lot, no doubt. And maybe he has room yet to improve, but I still don't see anything to get me excited.
Except they were grinding out the clock.
So if you expect that to be a regular occurrence, pencil in Jackson for 15-17 carries a game. If you don't (I don't) then expect 12-15 a game. :goodposting:
If I expect that to be an every-other week occurrence, but I also expect the other team to use its timeouts at the end of the first half a couple of times here and there, plus I think the Packers will complete 1% more passes the rest of the way, resulting in a few extra first downs, which means another 1-2 carries per game for Jackson, plus...You can play the what if game all day. Fact is, he has had an increase in workload. That's not an opinion, it's just math. Whether that is significant, that's obviously the debate. But you can't debate how much work he has gotten. And 17 carries per game would give him 272 prorated over a full season. He's averaging 4.4 YPC so that would prorate out to nearly 1,200 yards over a full season. That, plus the 40+ reception pace he's on, means he's at least getting enough work at the moment and is trending in the right direction to hold some decent value moving forward.

 
The wall is covered in writing.

Regards,

THE FANTASY KING
You said this 3+ weeks ago...and he's still putting up 7 fantasy points per game.If by "writing" you mean "BRANDON JACKSON IS AN AVERAGE NFL RB AT BEST AND IF THE PACK HAD ANY DEPTH AT THE POSITION WHATSOEVER, HE'D BE STANDING ON THE SIDELINES IN A JACKET" - then I agree.
Hello Poster,He is putting up flex numbers in PPR leagues right now, which is a substantial improvement from his outlook "3+ weeks ago" when people insisted that Kuhn, Starks, and even Marshawn Lynch were about to swoop in and take the job.

By "writing" I mean he is the primary ball carrier for the Packers, which most of the Posters on this forum did not see coming. If you do not want my help, feel free to avoid it.

Regards,

THE FANTASY KING
I, as well as others, actually thought that Jackson would be the primary ball carrier - but that he was still a mediocre-at-best talent. Meaning he'd produce...about 7 fantasty points/game with an occasional TD - which is exactly what he is producing. I don't play in PPR leagues - nor do a majority a FBGs (there have been polls done to verify that fact - feel free to use the "search" functionality). As such, he is basically a bye week filler - and at 7 PPG, a weak one at that. Bye weeks are almost up...as is Jackson's usefulness from a FF perspective.Hugs and Kisses,

DoubleG
Not sure why we are talking about you - unless you can link your thread discussing what Brandon Jackson was going to do before he started doing it, back when people were dropping him for Kuhn and Starks.Regardless of what kind of league you play in, the point I made before Jackson's value increased over the past few weeks is that Jackson was going to be the primary ball carrier in Green Bay, and that his perceived value was much lower than it should be at that time. And I was right. It is really that simple. I never made any claims about him being an elite talent or how many points he would score in your league.

So unless you have anything to show from before Jackson's value saw a steady increase, please recognize. Posting about what you thought Jackson would do a few weeks ago and what he is currently doing now and how those two are the same thing is not very helpful. What is helpful is making predictions before things happen. If you would like an example of that you might try using the "search" functionality yourself. Just search for THE FANTASY KING.

Regards,

THE FANTASY KING

 
Not sure why we are talking about you - unless you can link your thread discussing what Brandon Jackson was going to do before he started doing it, back when people were dropping him for Kuhn and Starks.

Regardless of what kind of league you play in, the point I made before Jackson's value increased over the past few weeks is that Jackson was going to be the primary ball carrier in Green Bay, and that his perceived value was much lower than it should be at that time. And I was right. It is really that simple. I never made any claims about him being an elite talent or how many points he would score in your league.

So unless you have anything to show from before Jackson's value saw a steady increase, please recognize. Posting about what you thought Jackson would do a few weeks ago and what he is currently doing now and how those two are the same thing is not very helpful. What is helpful is making predictions before things happen. If you would like an example of that you might try using the "search" functionality yourself. Just search for THE FANTASY KING.

Regards,

THE FANTASY KING
There really isnt much to recognize. Not sure why we are talking about you.... You predicted what the coaches were saying. Great job. You were 1 transaction away from being wrong. Brandon Jackson still sucks.

 
Not sure why we are talking about you - unless you can link your thread discussing what Brandon Jackson was going to do before he started doing it, back when people were dropping him for Kuhn and Starks.
Just for the record... your "pick up Jackson now" thread was prior to Week 6.First, Jackson was already owned in any league worth worrying about by that point.

Second, prior to Week 6 Jackson was coming off a 15-touch, 19-point game in Week 5. Nostradamus isn't what comes to mind.

 
Jackson has average about 11 fantasy pts per game over the past 4 weeks. That is good for about RB16. Not far off what I would have predicted Grant at for the same games.

Not bad for a WWW in non-dynasty leagues.

 
he would be a lot better if he wasn't a god awful short yardage runner. He is almost guaranteed a -3 in any short yardage situation.

 

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