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Brandon Jacobs released (1 Viewer)

I could see him landing in a bunch of spots. He played college ball at Southern Illinois, and lots of Midwest teams could use a committee back.

 
I could see him landing in a bunch of spots. He played college ball at Southern Illinois, and lots of Midwest teams could use a committee back.
I was actually thinking KC as a complement to Charles/Thomas Jones replacement, although BJGE may be a candidate here as well.
 
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I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.
The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.
Scott has one attribute most other "just guys" don't have and that's breathtaking speed. Whether or not he's a track star is the question.
Yeah, that's what I hear on this board constantly since before the draft. It's possible he's the next starter -- anybody is possible -- but the odds are very steep against him.
Agreed, my $ is on Ware to get the most looks from this. He knows the system & I'm not underestimating his ability to protect Manning when called upon.
 
Somebody either needs to become a solid #2RB either someone upping their game, a FA or draft pick because the Giants have to expect Bradshaw will probably miss 4-6 games with his bad feet.

 
Somebody either needs to become a solid #2RB either someone upping their game, a FA or draft pick because the Giants have to expect Bradshaw will probably miss 4-6 games with his bad feet.
Last year he played 12 games and he hadnt played less than 15 since his rookie year in 2007. Im not going to overdraft Bradshaw this year, but Im not going to dismiss him because for 1 season his foot held him out for a month.As for Jacobs, his name will help him on the market I think and he'll get at least $3M Id guess
 
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'Steed said:
'Couch Potato said:
'JohnnyU said:
I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.
The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.
Scott has one attribute most other "just guys" don't have and that's breathtaking speed. Whether or not he's a track star is the question.
Yeah, that's what I hear on this board constantly since before the draft. It's possible he's the next starter -- anybody is possible -- but the odds are very steep against him.
Agreed, my $ is on Ware to get the most looks from this. He knows the system & I'm not underestimating his ability to protect Manning when called upon.
I dunno - we've been hearing about Danny Ware for a few years now, and really haven't seen much. He got multiple shots last year, and didn't make much noise.
 
The Giants have not gone to free agents or draftees at RB in the Cofflin era. They just haven't gone for free agents, period. As for draft picks, they never play for several years, if at all. Jacobs had fewer than 100 carries for his first two years combined, I believe.

 
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The Giants have not gone to free agents or draftees at RB in the Cofflin era. They just haven't gone for free agents, period. As for draft picks, they never play for several years, if at all. Jacobs had fewer than 100 carries for his first two years combined, I believe.
Also I think they're gonna be reasonably tight against the cap which could limit their spending in FA a bit.
 
Somebody either needs to become a solid #2RB either someone upping their game, a FA or draft pick because the Giants have to expect Bradshaw will probably miss 4-6 games with his bad feet.
Last year he played 12 games and he hadnt played less than 15 since his rookie year in 2007. Im not going to overdraft Bradshaw this year, but Im not going to dismiss him because for 1 season his foot held him out for a month.As for Jacobs, his name will help him on the market I think and he'll get at least $3M Id guess
FF drafters have options, and aren't as at risk. I was speaking more from a standpoint of actual team. The Giants have 4 RBs, they'll need more just to get through camp. Unless they show more, I don't see the Giants starting the season with just Ware, Scott and Brown backing up Bradshaw.
 
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I'm with the Scott is the long term add crowd. The Giants M.O. is to draft mid-late round RB's and let them develop in their system. I love Doug Martin, but he just doesn't look like a pick the Giants would make. Bernard Pierce makes a lot more sense.

 
as an owner of both guys in a couple of leagues for 3 years now I'm happy to for this break up. Everyone knows that both players careers are coming to an end soon, even Bradshaw's even though he'll be only 26 this season.

Bradshaw is one tough SOB, his touches will go up as long as he's not missing games, I expect his recs and TD chances to increase this yr. I fully expect him to get 20 or so touches a game with the other RBs fighting over scraps for this yr. If I could get him for RB3 price I would do it in a heart beat.

BJ turns 30 but hes a 30 yr old RB with low mileage and hes never had a serious injury. I think the worst he had was a sprain MCL or PCL 3 yrs ago or something. Whoever signs him will sign him into the same role he had, an RBBC with about 150 to 180 touches and TD vulture. Theres plenty of places that will be interested (Oak / Denver / Balt / SD / Chi / SF / PIT / Cle / KC / StL) all of them could use a bruiser.

 
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Not a big surprise, simply thought he'd take less money and stay.

Jacobs was like Meggett of years ago and one of the more useful Giants in a particular role.

Someone brought up short yardage stats on page 1, he averaged nearly 6 ypc not too long ago and it seemed like no one noticed yet that's a gawdy number.

He's old by RB standards but he's still a beast of man that is totally used to playing as a complimentary player. Some team will give him a shot. This isn't some featured RB that whines on a new team how he's not getting 2k yards.

Jacobs whined since day 1 with the Giants. Every now and then some FF fan would begin to follow him closely and get all up in arms about it, but I don't think it surprised any Giant fans. I liked his whine and wanted a RB to want the ball more. It got to be over the top at times, but in general I mean.

If I had to pick a team its the Jets. I think Ryan would love Jacobs.

As far as the Giants, Andre Brown has been pressing them all year to play. He's looked very good and about commanded to get some time. (Yes, we've done this dance, he looked terrible and out of nowhere was back to his old self)

Scott is fast, but the linemen aren't. The Giants had to adjust their line's style to go from Tiki to Jacobs/Ward. Scott looks out of place at times, despite the obvious speed. I don't think it's as easy to just sub him in as people think.

Ware was a likely cut in 2011. He was oh so very much in Coughlin's doghouse and I have a hard time believing he's going to be relied upon.

The Giants are excellent at drafting productive RBs. They haven't found a stud RB capable of ADP type gawking, but they are far better than most teams at drafting RBs. I don't think this is a Coughlin thing, but that it's gone on since well before he got there. RBs and DEs is their drafting forte, the rest isn't very good although maybe WRs now. I can't think of the last free agent RB they signed and almost want to say it's been 20 years. Someone mentioned Grant previously, and since they had him in camp and all....maybe they do bring him back, maybe. I guess that could work as a backup and all.

The Giants are very confident in their backup RBs. Ware, Scott, and Brown are plenty for most teams. They might not even feel they need to draft one or at least anywhere near as pressing as some in this thread would have you believe. Four RBs is about normal.

There was a year Jacobs and Ward didn't do well and it was all Tiki. There was a time that only Jacobs or Ward did well. While they have a well documented system that includes using more than one RB, they could simply rely on Ahmad and have had to rely on one before. People at this board were singing Ahmad's praises oh so recently.

It is very possible they do nothing here and just lean on Ahmad.

 
I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.
The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.
Bradshaw was a 7th rounder
 
I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.
The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.
Bradshaw was a 7th rounder
That's kinda funny. On other hand YES as FFers we are always looking for the next Chris Johnson, Priest Holmes, Arien Foster (undrafted? Right?) Colston, TGlenn, and so on..

Can't hate for that

 
I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.
The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.
Bradshaw was a 7th rounder
That's kinda funny. On other hand YES as FFers we are always looking for the next Chris Johnson, Priest Holmes, Arien Foster (undrafted? Right?) Colston, TGlenn, and so on..

Can't hate for that
Chris Johnson was a first round selection by the Titans.And Glenn was a top ten pick for NE.

 
Think I was going for player that initially exceeded expectation. But point noted.

 
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"If I had to pick a team its the Jets. I think Ryan would love Jacobs."

Hey Bri ... you're aware Rex Ryan and Jacobs had a shouting match after the Giants-Jets game and Jake hasn't been shy about slamming Ryan publicly since, right?

Never say never but I'd be real surprised to see Jacobs as a NY Jet.

 
Man I hope the Giants don't pity sign him. Let him plod for 1/2 yards for another squad.

 
I have watched every play of every Giant game and usually 2-3 times. Jacobs is not a bad short yardage runner as some people have said. The problem is that the OC (Gilbride) is amazingly predictable on his short yardage plays. First, for some inexplicable reason he goes form the shot gun many times on 3rd and 2 and 3rd and 3. Whenever he has Eli on the LOS and Jacobs is in the game, they run with Jacobs 99% of the time, they rarely play action with Jacobs in the game. They also rarely play action from teh shot gun either so any time Eli moves to the RB in this short yardage situations the linebackers can rush with no worries.

Gilbride also passes on 1st and almost always runs on 2nd down in those 2nd and 10 situations; it is crazy predictable.

All that being said, Gilbride does a really good job outside of what I mentioned. he sets up plays really well in the passing game and doesn't abandon the run throughout the game. He is a very odd OC, but I guarantee if he looked at his failed short yardage situations he would be able to see what he does wrong because his feel is so much better on the rest of the game.

Jacobs is still a good short yardage back, the issue is he needs to be used like everyone else in that role. Finally, I am OK with them letting him go though because I am not a fan of his loud mouth. I thought he was an effective player though when used correctly.

 
I have watched every play of every Giant game and usually 2-3 times. Jacobs is not a bad short yardage runner as some people have said. The problem is that the OC (Gilbride) is amazingly predictable on his short yardage plays. First, for some inexplicable reason he goes form the shot gun many times on 3rd and 2 and 3rd and 3. Whenever he has Eli on the LOS and Jacobs is in the game, they run with Jacobs 99% of the time, they rarely play action with Jacobs in the game. They also rarely play action from teh shot gun either so any time Eli moves to the RB in this short yardage situations the linebackers can rush with no worries.Gilbride also passes on 1st and almost always runs on 2nd down in those 2nd and 10 situations; it is crazy predictable. All that being said, Gilbride does a really good job outside of what I mentioned. he sets up plays really well in the passing game and doesn't abandon the run throughout the game. He is a very odd OC, but I guarantee if he looked at his failed short yardage situations he would be able to see what he does wrong because his feel is so much better on the rest of the game.Jacobs is still a good short yardage back, the issue is he needs to be used like everyone else in that role. Finally, I am OK with them letting him go though because I am not a fan of his loud mouth. I thought he was an effective player though when used correctly.
There's definitely credence to this post. For some reason Gilbride seems almost overconfident in Jacobs ability to gain a yard even if the defense knows what's coming. I've stopped counting the number of times the Giants line up with a heavy formation with nobody split wide on 3rd and 1 and hand off to Jacobs with the hope he'll plow forward for a yard. Defenses completely sell out to stuff the middle because they know that even if Jacobs makes a bad decision and tries to bounce it outside they can run him down before he turns the corner and gains a yard. Seems like the predictable "hand off to Jacobs up the middle on 3rd and 1" would at least be more effective if they kept wideouts on the field and spread the defense a bit.Of course even with that benefit I'm not ready to state that Jacobs is a good short yardage back. He seemingly tries to bounce it outside far more than he should. It's as if he thinks he's faster than he is. All he does in these situations is make himself easier to tackle. You'd have thought he would've learned this by now but he still does it. I do think he can be an effective weapon for a team, however that club will need a good o-line. Jacobs isn't fast into the hole but if he makes it through it with a full head of steam, look out.
 
Nice insurance signing by Niners, but wouldn't be surprised if he were a camp cut either given he doesn't contribute in pass game or ST.

Guys like him are in a real tough position -- either sign now with possibility of late camp cut (and possibly miss out on prime RB injury situations that arise in preseason) or wait out the RB injuries around the league and sign then.

 

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