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I could see him landing in a bunch of spots. He played college ball at Southern Illinois, and lots of Midwest teams could use a committee back.
I was actually thinking KC as a complement to Charles/Thomas Jones replacement, although BJGE may be a candidate here as well.I could see him landing in a bunch of spots. He played college ball at Southern Illinois, and lots of Midwest teams could use a committee back.
Agreed, my $ is on Ware to get the most looks from this. He knows the system & I'm not underestimating his ability to protect Manning when called upon.'Couch Potato said:Yeah, that's what I hear on this board constantly since before the draft. It's possible he's the next starter -- anybody is possible -- but the odds are very steep against him.'Steed said:Scott has one attribute most other "just guys" don't have and that's breathtaking speed. Whether or not he's a track star is the question.'Couch Potato said:The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.'JohnnyU said:Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Last year he played 12 games and he hadnt played less than 15 since his rookie year in 2007. Im not going to overdraft Bradshaw this year, but Im not going to dismiss him because for 1 season his foot held him out for a month.As for Jacobs, his name will help him on the market I think and he'll get at least $3M Id guessSomebody either needs to become a solid #2RB either someone upping their game, a FA or draft pick because the Giants have to expect Bradshaw will probably miss 4-6 games with his bad feet.
I dunno - we've been hearing about Danny Ware for a few years now, and really haven't seen much. He got multiple shots last year, and didn't make much noise.Agreed, my $ is on Ware to get the most looks from this. He knows the system & I'm not underestimating his ability to protect Manning when called upon.'Couch Potato said:Yeah, that's what I hear on this board constantly since before the draft. It's possible he's the next starter -- anybody is possible -- but the odds are very steep against him.'Steed said:Scott has one attribute most other "just guys" don't have and that's breathtaking speed. Whether or not he's a track star is the question.'Couch Potato said:The long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.'JohnnyU said:Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Also I think they're gonna be reasonably tight against the cap which could limit their spending in FA a bit.The Giants have not gone to free agents or draftees at RB in the Cofflin era. They just haven't gone for free agents, period. As for draft picks, they never play for several years, if at all. Jacobs had fewer than 100 carries for his first two years combined, I believe.
FF drafters have options, and aren't as at risk. I was speaking more from a standpoint of actual team. The Giants have 4 RBs, they'll need more just to get through camp. Unless they show more, I don't see the Giants starting the season with just Ware, Scott and Brown backing up Bradshaw.Last year he played 12 games and he hadnt played less than 15 since his rookie year in 2007. Im not going to overdraft Bradshaw this year, but Im not going to dismiss him because for 1 season his foot held him out for a month.As for Jacobs, his name will help him on the market I think and he'll get at least $3M Id guessSomebody either needs to become a solid #2RB either someone upping their game, a FA or draft pick because the Giants have to expect Bradshaw will probably miss 4-6 games with his bad feet.
Bradshaw was a 7th rounderThe long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
That's kinda funny. On other hand YES as FFers we are always looking for the next Chris Johnson, Priest Holmes, Arien Foster (undrafted? Right?) Colston, TGlenn, and so on..Bradshaw was a 7th rounderThe long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Chris Johnson was a first round selection by the Titans.And Glenn was a top ten pick for NE.That's kinda funny. On other hand YES as FFers we are always looking for the next Chris Johnson, Priest Holmes, Arien Foster (undrafted? Right?) Colston, TGlenn, and so on..Bradshaw was a 7th rounderThe long term add isn't on the roster. Both Ware and Scott are just guys. Scott was a 7th rounder for a reason. This board's man love for him is just weird.Scott is the add here long term, not Ware.I just added Ware (age 27) in 3 leagues. Bradshaw won't be toting the rock 320 times. It could be D Scott instead helping out, but I think it'll be Ware or someone not yet on the roster.
Can't hate for that
If they need a hammer they'd be smart not to sign Jacobs. Terrible in short yardage.Lions need a cheap hammer.
I agree. Sure he can bulldoze over a tiny CB that tries to hit him high, but just about any weak arm tackle to his legs brings Jacobs down like a giant sack of Ron Dayne. The book on this guy is to sweep the leg.If they need a hammer they'd be smart not to sign Jacobs. Terrible in short yardage.Lions need a cheap hammer.
If they had that hammer, they'd cut him in the morning. They'd cut him in the evening...If they need a hammer they'd be smart not to sign Jacobs. Terrible in short yardage.Lions need a cheap hammer.
Gilbride also passes on 1st and almost always runs on 2nd down in those 2nd and 10 situations; it is crazy predictable.
There's definitely credence to this post. For some reason Gilbride seems almost overconfident in Jacobs ability to gain a yard even if the defense knows what's coming. I've stopped counting the number of times the Giants line up with a heavy formation with nobody split wide on 3rd and 1 and hand off to Jacobs with the hope he'll plow forward for a yard. Defenses completely sell out to stuff the middle because they know that even if Jacobs makes a bad decision and tries to bounce it outside they can run him down before he turns the corner and gains a yard. Seems like the predictable "hand off to Jacobs up the middle on 3rd and 1" would at least be more effective if they kept wideouts on the field and spread the defense a bit.Of course even with that benefit I'm not ready to state that Jacobs is a good short yardage back. He seemingly tries to bounce it outside far more than he should. It's as if he thinks he's faster than he is. All he does in these situations is make himself easier to tackle. You'd have thought he would've learned this by now but he still does it. I do think he can be an effective weapon for a team, however that club will need a good o-line. Jacobs isn't fast into the hole but if he makes it through it with a full head of steam, look out.I have watched every play of every Giant game and usually 2-3 times. Jacobs is not a bad short yardage runner as some people have said. The problem is that the OC (Gilbride) is amazingly predictable on his short yardage plays. First, for some inexplicable reason he goes form the shot gun many times on 3rd and 2 and 3rd and 3. Whenever he has Eli on the LOS and Jacobs is in the game, they run with Jacobs 99% of the time, they rarely play action with Jacobs in the game. They also rarely play action from teh shot gun either so any time Eli moves to the RB in this short yardage situations the linebackers can rush with no worries.Gilbride also passes on 1st and almost always runs on 2nd down in those 2nd and 10 situations; it is crazy predictable. All that being said, Gilbride does a really good job outside of what I mentioned. he sets up plays really well in the passing game and doesn't abandon the run throughout the game. He is a very odd OC, but I guarantee if he looked at his failed short yardage situations he would be able to see what he does wrong because his feel is so much better on the rest of the game.Jacobs is still a good short yardage back, the issue is he needs to be used like everyone else in that role. Finally, I am OK with them letting him go though because I am not a fan of his loud mouth. I thought he was an effective player though when used correctly.
Wow, interesting.Schefter tweeted that signed with the 49ers.