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Brandon Marshall asks to be traded from Broncos (1 Viewer)
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Buffaloes
Footballguy
How do you think he got the NFLN job?
RUSF18
Footballguy
It was a pretty lengthy discussion in the thread about him having a contract dispute with NFLN. Didn't know if it warranted a bump.
Banger
Footballguy
I don't agree with this. It's not as if they are trading average players...they are trading pro-bowl players for picks...those picks still need to work out and what are the chances that they become pro-bowl players in XX number of years down the line. Not too good IMO.
FavreCo
Footballguy
They are too busy trying to figure out where they can get a QB. Can someone get Jerry Jones drunk so he can offer up a sweet deal for Marshall?
I thought I read somewhere that after the Haynesworth deal they were pretty much right up against the cap, and that was before signing their rookie class.One team that I think should try to get Marshall is Detroit. They could kind of mimic what the Cardinals have on offense and they could probably get Marshall for their 2nd rounder plus some other minor pick(5th?) something like that could really create some buzz in Detroit and Calvin/Marshall would arguably be the best WR combo in the NFL and that could really ease the development of Stafford(or rejuvenation of Culpepper) I mean, if you are Detroit, what have you got to lose?
You must be a Packers fan.
The Riv
Footballguy
From ESPN.com [w/my added BOLD]:
' "Marshall's agent, Kennard McGuire, confirmed that to ESPN's Michael Smith on Tuesday: "There was a meeting with Mr. Bowlen and Brandon did ask to be traded. He was told by ownership that the team would do everything in its power to accommodate those wishes. We do feel that a change of scenery is not only important but necessary." '
So the Broncos are going to accommodate.
This flies in the face of Peter King's report from earlier this morning.
' "Marshall's agent, Kennard McGuire, confirmed that to ESPN's Michael Smith on Tuesday: "There was a meeting with Mr. Bowlen and Brandon did ask to be traded. He was told by ownership that the team would do everything in its power to accommodate those wishes. We do feel that a change of scenery is not only important but necessary." '
So the Broncos are going to accommodate.
This flies in the face of Peter King's report from earlier this morning.
Duke1948
Footballguy
gotta agree with Banger here........IF they can hit on the draft picks, otherwise not good.
I don't get it.According to the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens are doing their homework on Marshall.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
My Rams need him more!!! I've never seen a more abysmal WR corps than what the Rams are trotting out there this year...
Native
Footballguy
Have you seen the Dolphins Corps? We suck way more than Donnie Avery and company!
J/K of course...
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With as many holes as Detroit has, trading for Marshall would not be an ideal move.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I see very little chance that Parcells makes a move for Marshall. If they wanted to pay a WR a ton of cash, and make a trade to get him, they would have made a play for Boldin who is at least as good of a player, wants to play in Miami, and brings far less mental deficiencies to the roster. The Fins seem to be pretty content to go with Ginn/Camarillo/Bess as their top 3. Apparently, Camarillo is already running at full speed and looking good, and Ginn is starting to make some strides as an NFL WR. Bess is a very solid slot guy. They used a 3 and 4 to draft Turner and Hartline in the draft.I am not saying that Marshall is not a humongous upgrade over these guys, but I think he brings way too much baggage with him for Parcells to give up precious picks, and a huge salary.Marshall seems like he should be a Raider to me, but I could see the Jets making a move to get him. That would put Marshall, T.O., Lee Evans, Moss and Welker all in the AFC East. Not cool if you play in the Miami secondary.Sorry for the hijack. Carry on...
Adebisi
Footballguy
Imagine that...From ESPN.com [w/my added BOLD]:
' "Marshall's agent, Kennard McGuire, confirmed that to ESPN's Michael Smith on Tuesday: "There was a meeting with Mr. Bowlen and Brandon did ask to be traded. He was told by ownership that the team would do everything in its power to accommodate those wishes. We do feel that a change of scenery is not only important but necessary." '
So the Broncos are going to accommodate.This flies in the face of Peter King's report from earlier this morning.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I said months ago that the Broncos should trade that head-case Marshall and be done with him and his nonsense, as it is only a matter of time before he does something really stupid again and Goodell is forced to bring the hammer down on him, but the two best offensive players wanting out of Denver simply doesn't make McDaniel or the new regime in Denver look good at all.
I have a feeling that Pat Bowlen is gonna be frustrated as hell in two years when he has to fire his head coach who went 11-21 and left his team in ruins. He'll be longing for those days when he had a franchise QB and a Super Bowl-winning head coach who had proved he could win big when he had the right pieces in place.
I have a feeling that Pat Bowlen is gonna be frustrated as hell in two years when he has to fire his head coach who went 11-21 and left his team in ruins. He'll be longing for those days when he had a franchise QB and a Super Bowl-winning head coach who had proved he could win big when he had the right pieces in place.
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Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
Donnybrook
Footballguy
and the Seahawks will be laughing all the way to the draft (with the Broncos' top pick).
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
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massraider
Footballguy
Think you are confusing Marshall with someone else.
massraider
Footballguy
Why not just swap Braylon for Marshall?
Max Power
Footballguy
that would make a lot more sense.Cribbs and 2nd or 3rd pick just doesn't seem like enough IMO. Although that CLE 2nd rounder could be somewhere in the mid to late 30's range.I'm also not sure how well Marshall would get along with Mangini.
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Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Sounds to me like Marshall expects his numbers to drop, which affects his options in free agency, which means he wants to be locked up now or traded to a team that will either lock him up or make his numbers look good for free agency. If he expected another huge year (with Cutler at the helm, for example) he might have been tempted to test the waters after the season.
The Broncos might be happy with Royal as a #1 and plan to run the ball more anyway. I don't have a clue where he'd go, though. But with talents like Boldin and Marshall available, teams have no excuses if they need a wideout.
The Broncos might be happy with Royal as a #1 and plan to run the ball more anyway. I don't have a clue where he'd go, though. But with talents like Boldin and Marshall available, teams have no excuses if they need a wideout.
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Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Marshall's official website: http://www.bmarshall15.com/blog/?p=142#more-142
posted yesterday afternoon:
To whom it may concern. Life is filled with change, and where I am in my life now change is probably best. It’s hard leaving an organization ran by one of the best owners in all of sports, and someone who’s been there for me through my ups and downs. The hardest thing was hearing Mr. B wish me luck in the future, but we both came to the conclusion that this is probably the best thing for me to grow on and off the field.
I thank the Denver fans who embraced my emotion and play on the field and showing me love every time I step outside my door.
posted yesterday afternoon:
To whom it may concern. Life is filled with change, and where I am in my life now change is probably best. It’s hard leaving an organization ran by one of the best owners in all of sports, and someone who’s been there for me through my ups and downs. The hardest thing was hearing Mr. B wish me luck in the future, but we both came to the conclusion that this is probably the best thing for me to grow on and off the field.
I thank the Denver fans who embraced my emotion and play on the field and showing me love every time I step outside my door.
What in Schwarz's history makes you think that he believes you need (not only one but) two top WRs to win?If this were a player that plays in the trenches I could buy it but each NE and TEN did not go get WRs until they had exceptional trenches. It seems they understand that either line is paramount to an outside threat.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Fixed.Have you seen the Dolphins Corps corpses? We suck way more than Donnie Avery and company!
J/K of course...
Demian
Footballguy
Please tell me that's sarcasm.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I think with his off-field issues and injury, Marshall's value is probably not as high as he thinks it is.
Bowlen may think this way and is actually setting Marshall up for contract negotiations.
Some teams make some offers, and the Broncos either like them or spin those offers as evidence to Marshall that he has overestimated his value in the market.
Then Denver and Marshall make nice and get a contract reworked before the start of the season.
BTW, I think McDaniels isn't a big part of this story. As far as I know, Marshall hasn't been critical of McDaniels. Cutler, on the other hand... So I think it's two separate situations. McDaniels has been silent on this issue except to say he looks forward to having Brandon in camp. So I think he is (wisely) leaving it as a front-office issue, not his.
Bowlen may think this way and is actually setting Marshall up for contract negotiations.
Some teams make some offers, and the Broncos either like them or spin those offers as evidence to Marshall that he has overestimated his value in the market.
Then Denver and Marshall make nice and get a contract reworked before the start of the season.
BTW, I think McDaniels isn't a big part of this story. As far as I know, Marshall hasn't been critical of McDaniels. Cutler, on the other hand... So I think it's two separate situations. McDaniels has been silent on this issue except to say he looks forward to having Brandon in camp. So I think he is (wisely) leaving it as a front-office issue, not his.
DenverBuc
Footballguy
Ghost Rider said:
+1As a season ticket holder, I am very ticked off with the franchise right now. Their ability to compete at an elite level has been steadily eroding over the past few years, and now it seems like the wheels are coming off.I have a feeling my season tix are going to be next to worthless at the midpoint of this season...Why not trade for Marshall and keep Braylon? Just like that the Browns would have one of the 3 best WR combos in the league, maybe the best if they both can play like they did in 07'.Actually 2007 would be what that combo would remind me of, Marshall could fill both the Winslow and Jurevicius roles and Edwards could go back to being a jump ball/deep threat guy with Robiskie in the slot. If Quinn is anywhere near the QB he's supposed to be, that could be an explosive passing game.Maybe Cribbs a 2nd and a 5th for Marshall?massraider said:
I disagree. This is a good, young team and bringing a guy like this who doesnt follow the rules will not be good for morale, and will set a bad examples for the young players.if I was a GM, the only way I'd pick him up is if I had a veteran team who have enough leadership in the dresssing room that they can deal with the possible distractions a guy like him will bring.Native said:
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
Footballguy
This is absolutely crazy...
The Broncos offense could have been:
QB - Cutler - 26 yo
RB - Moreno - 21 yo
WR - Marshall - 24 yo
WR - Royal - 22 yo
TE - Scheffler - 26 yo
LT - Clady - 22 yo
LG - Hamilton - 31 yo
C - Weigmann - 35 yo
RG - Kuper - 26 yo
RT - Harris - 24 yo
Aside from a little age on the interior of the oline, this could have been a great young offense to build this team around and keep them competitive for the next 5-8 years. I would be sick to my stomach as a Broncos fan.
The Broncos offense could have been:
QB - Cutler - 26 yo
RB - Moreno - 21 yo
WR - Marshall - 24 yo
WR - Royal - 22 yo
TE - Scheffler - 26 yo
LT - Clady - 22 yo
LG - Hamilton - 31 yo
C - Weigmann - 35 yo
RG - Kuper - 26 yo
RT - Harris - 24 yo
Aside from a little age on the interior of the oline, this could have been a great young offense to build this team around and keep them competitive for the next 5-8 years. I would be sick to my stomach as a Broncos fan.
The day after reports surfaced that he had asked to be traded, Brandon Marshall is saying goodbye to Denver.
On his personal blog under a post entitled "Clearing the Air," the wide receiver wrote: "To whom it may concern. Life is filled with change, and where I am in my life now change is probably best. It?s hard leaving an organization ran by one of the best owners in all of sports, and someone who?s been there for me through my ups and downs. The hardest thing was hearing Mr. B wish me luck in the future, but we both came to the conclusion that this is probably the best thing for me to grow on and off the field. I thank the Denver fans who embraced my emotion and play on the field and showing me love every time I step outside my door."
On his personal blog under a post entitled "Clearing the Air," the wide receiver wrote: "To whom it may concern. Life is filled with change, and where I am in my life now change is probably best. It?s hard leaving an organization ran by one of the best owners in all of sports, and someone who?s been there for me through my ups and downs. The hardest thing was hearing Mr. B wish me luck in the future, but we both came to the conclusion that this is probably the best thing for me to grow on and off the field. I thank the Denver fans who embraced my emotion and play on the field and showing me love every time I step outside my door."
KoolKat
Footballguy
From what I know the waiting list for season tickets is ridiculously long, and the Broncos have sold out every game since the mid 1970s so I would not be too worried about season tickets losing value. Even if the Broncos went 0-16 we would still sell out every game.A google search provides this:Ghost Rider said:+1As a season ticket holder, I am very ticked off with the franchise right now. Their ability to compete at an elite level has been steadily eroding over the past few years, and now it seems like the wheels are coming off.
I have a feeling my season tix are going to be next to worthless at the midpoint of this season...
"Football-crazed Denver has made every Broncos game a sell-out since 1970. The team has struggled in recent years to sell all of the 8,400 club seat inventory where prices top out at $368 a seat. But for general seating, with prices averaging $64, there is a 24,000 person waiting list."
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/30/06nfl_...cos_308211.html
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I hope Jax isn't looking at this woman-beater.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
That's the problem. His stats say he is worth a big fat signing bonus and long term deal (2nd most receptions the last two seasons) to the Broncos or a 1st and a 3rd to another team. But the off the field stuff makes anyone interested in signing or acquiring Marshal leery. I doubt anyone comes in, guns a blazing, and offers a sweet heart deal to Denver for him. Some teams will sniff around and offer a 3rd and a 4th. Or a 3rd with escalators that could make it a 2, etc. But nobody is giving the 1, much less a 1 and a 3. So do the Broncos take a decent pick with an escalator clause and dump him just to dump him? I don't know...
jurb26
Footballguy
Denver just doesn't want to rework his contract right now and I agree that Marshall probably has unrealistic ideas of what he is worth. Can you blame Den for being leery of signing Marshall to big money with the issues in his past? Marshall is desperate to redo his contract now because he knows with Cutler gone he will not have as good a season as he has in the past.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Denver should just sit tight and give him the Chad Johnson/Anquan Boldin treatment. I don't see teams lining up to give a fair deal for this guy considering his off-the-field issues and hip injury.
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Denver should just sit tight and give him the Chad Johnson/Anquan Boldin treatment. I don't see teams lining up to give a fair deal for this guy considering his off-the-field issues and hip injury.
s Yup, I think the guy definitely has an unrealistic expectation of his value. I agree he wants to get a fat contract before the CBA is renegotiated.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I doubt anyone offers a lot for the guy when a 1st and a 3rd would probably land Boldin or Edwards who don't have the off the field issues that Marshal has. Marshal is kidding himself if he thinks teams will be lining up when they can get an equally gifted, and troubled, player in Burress for nothing more than cash. He suits up this year for Denver and he is going to struggle to get to 1K yards with Orton behind center... He knows it...Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
You mean McDonald's-bag-slipper-onner right
TitusIII
Footballguy
On one hand, the players shouldn't be treated like slaves, regardless of what the NFL contract says. If a player wants out, so be it, he shouldn't be "owned".
On the other hand, there are better ways of going about this(spouting off to the media). And the player should expect a significant hit to the wallet/negative PR hit for a year or two as a "penalty", per se.
On the other hand, there are better ways of going about this(spouting off to the media). And the player should expect a significant hit to the wallet/negative PR hit for a year or two as a "penalty", per se.
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moleculo
Footballguy
you don't believe in the sanctity of contracts?
