Breaking down the 2012 RB class (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

SeniorsDoug Martin: Boise State (5-9, 201) Martin looks like a Coke machine the way he’s put together. Thick through the lower half and mid-section, and there’s really no place to wrap up on him as he runs low while keeping his pad level down. He possesses solid speed, but it’s his ability to sharply change directions, maintain balance and accelerate which is really impressive. He plays very fast/quick in tight quarters and can consistently make defenders miss. Looks poised for a monster year.Cyrus Gray: Texas A&M (5-10 198) A shorter, compact runner who is very comfortable running between the tackles from I-formation sets, picks his way through the line of scrimmage and is patient inside. Possesses a natural second gear to his game and accelerates quickly out of his breaks. Looks a little stiff in the hips laterally, but can catch the football out of the backfield and has the talent to be part of a solid one-two punch in the NFL.Dan Herron: Ohio State (5-10, 205) Herron’s quicker than he is fast in tight areas. And he does a nice job setting up blocks inside, lowering his pad level into contact and likes to finish runs. Displays good short-area quickness and footwork when asked to make a man miss and accelerate. Isn’t a dynamic athlete, but is a strong, no-nonsense type runner who will give you an honest days work inside.Jeffery Demps: Florida (5-8, 190) Demps is simply lightning in a bottle every time he gets his hands on the football. At only 5-8, he possesses a compact frame and the straight-line speed to consistently outrun angles and create big plays in space. He catches the football well out of the backfield as well, but even more impressive was his improved patience and feel running inside last season. Looks like a dynamic sub-package option in the NFL.UnderclassmenTrent Richardson: Alabama (5-11, 220) A powerful back who runs hard and possesses a rare blend of power and speed. Isn’t the same type of natural runner that former Tide standout RB Mark Ingram was. But he’ll likely get drafted higher because of his more impressive 40 time.LaMichael James: Oregon (5-9, 185) Say what you want about the Oregon offense, but James possesses impressive short-area quickness inside, can consistently make defenders miss and accelerates well toward daylight. He’s undersized, but the guy has some very good natural running skills.Knile Davis: Arkansas (6-0, 220) Davis rushed for over 130 yards per game during the final nine games of the season last year and possesses an intriguing combination of size and speed. He had a 4.37 40-time during Arkansas’ offseason testing. Looks like a potential star in the SEC come 2011.Andre Ellington: Clemson (5-10, 190) Another dynamic, change of pace type prospect at the next level. Ellington is shifty, can make defenders miss and can run away from the pack in space. Plus, he’s also comfortable catching the football out of the backfield.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-the-2012-RB-class.htmlI really love this class!

 

[eakfootball]

I love Richardson and Davis, and James should be decent, but I'm not a huge fan of any of the other guys.

 

[BigTex]

I'd put Doug Martin up there as well. I can see him as the #3 back in this class.

 

[shader]

Richardson is absurdly strong and fast. An un-natural combo of the two.

I'm excited to see his junior season to see what he can do as the primary ball carrier. His physical style worries me a bit for his long-term health.

 

[Sabertooth]

All I heard last year was how great the 2011 class was going to be. So I traded and scraped and got a bevy of picks. Now suddenly this class is "meh." But next year, boy just wait til next year.

 

[Go deep]

All I heard last year was how great the 2011 class was going to be. So I traded and scraped and got a bevy of picks. Now suddenly this class is "meh." But next year, boy just wait til next year.

You did? I havnt heard/thought a class was going to be great since the 2008 class. Although nobody could have known just how great it would turn out. Next years isnt great at this point either, although better than this years, at the top at least, and thats most important.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Luck and Blackmon and Floyd really took a lot of steam out of this class, and pumped up a pretty solid 2012 group.

 

[Whitney26]

Bunting left a few guys out I think were worth mentioning:

Chris Polk (Washington) (5.11 - 215)

Vick Ballard (MISS State) (5.11 - 215)

Montel Harris (Boston College) (5.10 - 200)

Bernard Pierce (Temple) (6.00 - 218)

Sleepers:

Lance Dunbar (North Texas) (5.09 - 205)

Isaiah Peed (Cincy) (5.10 - 200)

Tauren Poole (Tennessee) (5.11 - 214)

Bryce Brown (Kansas State) (6.00 - 218)

While I'm at it, here are some under the radar WRs I'll be watching next season:

Juron Criner (Arizona) (6.04 - 210) Potential to the be the first WR off the board.

Cobi Hamilton (Arkansas) (6.03 - 210) Sprinter on the Hog track team. State champion in 200m in HS in Texas. Has a "that's my ball" attitide.

Justin Hunter (Tennessee) (6.04 - 183) Highlight Video I think he's just a SOPH but he's one to be aware of. In HS, he long jumped 25 10-3/4 and high jumped 7-02. He's 6-04 and can literally jump out the building.

Keenan Allen (Cal) (6.03 - 195) Another true SOPH that won't be eligible for a couple of years.

 

[Sabertooth]

All I heard last year was how great the 2011 class was going to be. So I traded and scraped and got a bevy of picks. Now suddenly this class is "meh." But next year, boy just wait til next year.

You did? I havnt heard/thought a class was going to be great since the 2008 class. Although nobody could have known just how great it would turn out. Next years isnt great at this point either, although better than this years, at the top at least, and thats most important.

Go back and listen to the "Audible" podcasts from last summer. Bloom and Cecil were all over the 2011 class. This class was going to be epic.

 

[Go deep]

All I heard last year was how great the 2011 class was going to be. So I traded and scraped and got a bevy of picks. Now suddenly this class is "meh." But next year, boy just wait til next year.

You did? I havnt heard/thought a class was going to be great since the 2008 class. Although nobody could have known just how great it would turn out. Next years isnt great at this point either, although better than this years, at the top at least, and thats most important.

Go back and listen to the "Audible" podcasts from last summer. Bloom and Cecil were all over the 2011 class. This class was going to be epic.

I believe you, i am just surprised to hear it. I just dont think it was the consensus, just a few guys opinions. They still may end up right, but i dont think this class is every good, at least at the top. Its deep, but deep in longshots.

 

[eakfootball]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

 

[eakfootball]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

This run shows the comparison. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI6gpFTWkZY&feature=player_embedded#at=21

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

This run shows the comparison. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI6gpFTWkZY&feature=player_embedded#at=21

not doubting or hating on his talent but that video shows me a back that is tackled in the NFL and has no answer. There was no juke or move put on it was just a mistackle which isn't going to happen in the big boy league.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Exactly, his freshman season was crazy with the hype

 

[Go deep]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

Many of us thought AP would be one of the greatest RBs ever. Before he ever played a down in the NFL.

 

[Go deep]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

Many of us thought AP would be one of the greatest RBs ever. Before he ever played a down in the NFL.

No they didnt, i didnt see one person on this board or any other board rank him #1, or even mention that AD was their #1 dynasty back after he was drafted. Maybe i missed one or two people claiming that(i doubt it), but i certainly would rememeber if most people here ranked him as their #1 dynasty back before he ever played a down in the NFL.

 

[sihaokills]

Richardson is going to be one hell of a star. More hope on Knile Davis than James

 

[BeTheMatch]

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

You guys must be crazy. I am a huge Richardson fan (I've been on his jock for 3 years now), but he is not even a shadow of what Adrian Peterson was as a prospect.People were pegging Peterson as one of the all-time great NFL running backs before he'd even committed to a school in college. When people draft a dynasty running back they're usually hoping to get a good FF player. People drafting Peterson were hoping to draft a guy who would end up being the best RB in the history of the NFL. That was his upside.

Peterson was a 1st round pick in startup dynasty drafts and a 2nd round pick in redraft leagues as a rookie stepping into a situation where he'd be sharing carries with a running back that had just run for 1200 yards the year before. The only thing holding him back at all was his injury history.

Just because people didn't unanimously draft him #1 overall in startup drafts as a rookie doesn't mean that he was any less of a prospect. No one will ever do that. No one. But Peterson is probably the closest to it.

Richardson is a great prospect. Peterson was almost widely, and almost universally by the big dogs, considered a once in a lifetime prospect. There's a huge difference there.

People didn't think Peterson was going to be this good? Please, there's probably a fairly hefty contingent of people for whom Peterson has done less than they expected. Personally, I'm shocked that he hasn't had one of those uber record breaking FF years yet.

I was so high on Peterson that I STILL don't put as much weight into what the people that weren't high on Peterson post on this board to this day. To me, he was that obvious of a home run.

 

[Go deep]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

You guys must be crazy. I am a huge Richardson fan (I've been on his jock for 3 years now), but he is not even a shadow of what Adrian Peterson was as a prospect.People were pegging Peterson as one of the all-time great NFL running backs before he'd even committed to a school in college. When people draft a dynasty running back they're usually hoping to get a good FF player. People drafting Peterson were hoping to draft a guy who would end up being the best RB in the history of the NFL. That was his upside.

Peterson was a 1st round pick in startup dynasty drafts and a 2nd round pick in redraft leagues as a rookie stepping into a situation where he'd be sharing carries with a running back that had just run for 1200 yards the year before. The only thing holding him back at all was his injury history.

Just because people didn't unanimously draft him #1 overall in startup drafts as a rookie doesn't mean that he was any less of a prospect. No one will ever do that. No one. But Peterson is probably the closest to it.

Richardson is a great prospect. Peterson was almost widely, and almost universally by the big dogs, considered a once in a lifetime prospect. There's a huge difference there.

People didn't think Peterson was going to be this good? Please, there's probably a fairly hefty contingent of people for whom Peterson has done less than they expected. Personally, I'm shocked that he hasn't had one of those uber record breaking FF years yet.

I was so high on Peterson that I STILL don't put as much weight into what the people that weren't high on Peterson post on this board to this day. To me, he was that obvious of a home run.

I didnt say he wasnt a great prospect, just that nobody thought he was going to be this good. Had people thought he was going to be this good, then why wouldnt you draft him first overall in a dynasty startup!??!?! Also, his dynasty startup ADP was mid 2nd round, not first round(according to MFL data).Also, you cant be serious about people pegging him as a NFL Hall of famer coming out of high scool. I get he was a great prospect, but you are taking this way too far.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I didnt say he wasnt a great prospect, just that nobody thought he was going to be this good. Had people thought he was going to be this good, then why wouldnt you draft him first overall in a dynasty startup!??!?!

You've been here long enough that I didn't think I needed to explain the basics of fantasy football to you.Just because you think something doesn't make it so. People draft with the notion that they can be wrong about people, but weight their drafts towards what they think will be right. Plenty of people thought that Arian Foster was going to have a huge year last year. How many people actually drafted him first overall? Not a single one.

We all have our lists of people that we value highly and that we think will blow up either in the coming year or for their career. If we drafted strictly according to that list then everyone's draft board would look completely different when in reality they're all fairly similar. If you think that Julio Jones will be the next big thing at WR, that doesn't mean you're going to draft him #1 overall or even as the #1 WR. Likewise, if you think that Sam Bradford is the next Peyton Manning, that still doesn't mean you're going to draft him over Aaron Rodgers in a dynasty start-up.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

Many of us thought AP would be one of the greatest RBs ever. Before he ever played a down in the NFL.

No they didnt, i didnt see one person on this board or any other board rank him #1, or even mention that AD was their #1 dynasty back after he was drafted. Maybe i missed one or two people claiming that(i doubt it), but i certainly would rememeber if most people here ranked him as their #1 dynasty back before he ever played a down in the NFL.

I don't recall if I posted it, but I remember thinking AP was about the best I had ever seen during his freshman season. I know I cooled to him somewhat over his next two seasons but not because of talent. Only injuries could slow him down but he did seem to start getting banged up pretty regularly.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

I didnt say he wasnt a great prospect, just that nobody thought he was going to be this good. Had people thought he was going to be this good, then why wouldnt you draft him first overall in a dynasty startup!??!?!

You've been here long enough that I didn't think I needed to explain the basics of fantasy football to you.Just because you think something doesn't make it so. People draft with the notion that they can be wrong about people, but weight their drafts towards what they think will be right. Plenty of people thought that Arian Foster was going to have a huge year last year. How many people actually drafted him first overall? Not a single one.

We all have our lists of people that we value highly and that we think will blow up either in the coming year or for their career. If we drafted strictly according to that list then everyone's draft board would look completely different when in reality they're all fairly similar. If you think that Julio Jones will be the next big thing at WR, that doesn't mean you're going to draft him #1 overall or even as the #1 WR. Likewise, if you think that Sam Bradford is the next Peyton Manning, that still doesn't mean you're going to draft him over Aaron Rodgers in a dynasty start-up.

To the poster's point, I grabbed him with the 1st pick in the 4th and even guys that liked him told me that was too soon. I didn't care because he represented huge value at that point to me ( I had no idea just how huge of course).Another point on Arian Foster from a TEN fan friend of mine is that he was a pretty big prospect.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

You guys must be crazy. I am a huge Richardson fan (I've been on his jock for 3 years now), but he is not even a shadow of what Adrian Peterson was as a prospect.People were pegging Peterson as one of the all-time great NFL running backs before he'd even committed to a school in college. When people draft a dynasty running back they're usually hoping to get a good FF player. People drafting Peterson were hoping to draft a guy who would end up being the best RB in the history of the NFL. That was his upside.

Peterson was a 1st round pick in startup dynasty drafts and a 2nd round pick in redraft leagues as a rookie stepping into a situation where he'd be sharing carries with a running back that had just run for 1200 yards the year before. The only thing holding him back at all was his injury history.

Just because people didn't unanimously draft him #1 overall in startup drafts as a rookie doesn't mean that he was any less of a prospect. No one will ever do that. No one. But Peterson is probably the closest to it.

Richardson is a great prospect. Peterson was almost widely, and almost universally by the big dogs, considered a once in a lifetime prospect. There's a huge difference there.

People didn't think Peterson was going to be this good? Please, there's probably a fairly hefty contingent of people for whom Peterson has done less than they expected. Personally, I'm shocked that he hasn't had one of those uber record breaking FF years yet.

I was so high on Peterson that I STILL don't put as much weight into what the people that weren't high on Peterson post on this board to this day. To me, he was that obvious of a home run.

I didnt say he wasnt a great prospect, just that nobody thought he was going to be this good. Had people thought he was going to be this good, then why wouldnt you draft him first overall in a dynasty startup!??!?! Also, his dynasty startup ADP was mid 2nd round, not first round(according to MFL data).Also, you cant be serious about people pegging him as a NFL Hall of famer coming out of high scool. I get he was a great prospect, but you are taking this way too far.

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Go Deep - if we go back to this post, this is what started the discussion. I'm struggling to see in this post where the litmus test (which you used) should be "did anyone rate AP as the #1 dynasty RB when he was a rookie?" So I'm not fully following your strawman argument.

I had AP ranked as a top-5 dynasty RB, before he ever played a single snap in the NFL. No doubt others felt exactly the same way. One of my league mates offered a very attractive trade to me before AP's rookie year (I held rookie pick #1), a deal that involved pick 1.2, 1.5 + a bunch of other commodities....and I never seriously considered the deal. Because AP was a once-in-a-decade-talent. And that has been reinforced by his on-play performance.

 

[Go deep]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

You guys must be crazy. I am a huge Richardson fan (I've been on his jock for 3 years now), but he is not even a shadow of what Adrian Peterson was as a prospect.People were pegging Peterson as one of the all-time great NFL running backs before he'd even committed to a school in college. When people draft a dynasty running back they're usually hoping to get a good FF player. People drafting Peterson were hoping to draft a guy who would end up being the best RB in the history of the NFL. That was his upside.

Peterson was a 1st round pick in startup dynasty drafts and a 2nd round pick in redraft leagues as a rookie stepping into a situation where he'd be sharing carries with a running back that had just run for 1200 yards the year before. The only thing holding him back at all was his injury history.

Just because people didn't unanimously draft him #1 overall in startup drafts as a rookie doesn't mean that he was any less of a prospect. No one will ever do that. No one. But Peterson is probably the closest to it.

Richardson is a great prospect. Peterson was almost widely, and almost universally by the big dogs, considered a once in a lifetime prospect. There's a huge difference there.

People didn't think Peterson was going to be this good? Please, there's probably a fairly hefty contingent of people for whom Peterson has done less than they expected. Personally, I'm shocked that he hasn't had one of those uber record breaking FF years yet.

I was so high on Peterson that I STILL don't put as much weight into what the people that weren't high on Peterson post on this board to this day. To me, he was that obvious of a home run.

I didnt say he wasnt a great prospect, just that nobody thought he was going to be this good. Had people thought he was going to be this good, then why wouldnt you draft him first overall in a dynasty startup!??!?! Also, his dynasty startup ADP was mid 2nd round, not first round(according to MFL data).Also, you cant be serious about people pegging him as a NFL Hall of famer coming out of high scool. I get he was a great prospect, but you are taking this way too far.

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Go Deep - if we go back to this post, this is what started the discussion. I'm struggling to see in this post where the litmus test (which you used) should be "did anyone rate AP as the #1 dynasty RB when he was a rookie?" So I'm not fully following your strawman argument.

I had AP ranked as a top-5 dynasty RB, before he ever played a single snap in the NFL. No doubt others felt exactly the same way. One of my league mates offered a very attractive trade to me before AP's rookie year (I held rookie pick #1), a deal that involved pick 1.2, 1.5 + a bunch of other commodities....and I never seriously considered the deal. Because AP was a once-in-a-decade-talent. And that has been reinforced by his on-play performance.

My only point is that nobody thought he was going to be this good. They thought is was possible, and that he was the best RB prospect to come out in 10 years(along with Bush) but to say you expected this type of production seems more like hindsight knowledge.

Kind of reminds me when people call a big bet at the end of a poker hand and when the other person flips over the winning hand you say " I knew you had that". No, you didnt, because if you did, you would have folded. You may have suspected it, but you didnt think it was true.

Either way, its not worth arguing any further.

 

[offdee]

I drafted AD with the #17 overall pick in an initial startup draft before his Junior year of college.

First two rounds of that 2006 Draft...

1.01 RB- Larry Johnson (Chiefs) Bear's Lair

1.02 RB- LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers) Blue Falcons

1.03 RB- Clinton Portis (Redskins) Mighty CSD

1.04 RB- Shaun Alexander (Seahawks) Tri-Lams

1.05 RB- Cadillac Williams (Bucs) Inconvenient Truth

1.06 QB- Peyton Manning (Colts) Ugly Dawgz

1.07 RB- Tiki Barber (Giants) Houston Texans

1.08 RB- Ronnie Brown (Dolphins) Bishop Reign

1.09 RB- LaMont Jordan (Raiders) Poultry In Motion

1.10 RB- Reggie Bush (Saints) Crimble Crumble

1.11 RB- Steven Jackson (Rams) Terminator

1.12 WR- Larry Fitzgerald (Cardinals) Chosen Ones

1.13 WR- Steve Smith (Panthers) Pride of Pei Mei

1.14 RB- Rudi Johnson (Bengals) Blue Steel

2.01 RB- Edgerrin James (Cardinals) Blue Steel

2.02 RB- Domanick Davis (Texans) Pride of Pei Mei

2.03 RB- Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma) Chosen Ones

2.04 RB- Willis McGahee (Bills) Crimble Crumble

2.05 WR- Chad Johnson (Bengals) Terminator

2.06 WR- Anquan Boldin (Cardinals) Poultry In Motion

2.07 RB- Laurence Maroney (Patriots) Bishop Reign

2.08 WR- Torry Holt (Rams) Houston Texans

2.09 WR- Randy Moss (Raiders) Mighty CSD

2.10 RB- Brian Westbrook (Eagles) Inconvenient Truth

2.11 WR- Terrell Owens (Cowboys) Tri-Lams

2.12 TE- Antonio Gates (Chargers) Bear's Lair

2.13 RB- Kevin Jones (Lions) Blue Falcons

2.14 RB- Julius Jones (Cowboys) Bear's Lair

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

Many of us thought AP would be one of the greatest RBs ever. Before he ever played a down in the NFL.

No they didnt, i didnt see one person on this board or any other board rank him #1, or even mention that AD was their #1 dynasty back after he was drafted. Maybe i missed one or two people claiming that(i doubt it), but i certainly would rememeber if most people here ranked him as their #1 dynasty back before he ever played a down in the NFL.

In a FBG dynasty startup league that year I was in ADP went with the 2nd overall pick behind only LT.

 

[eakfootball]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

Plenty of people thought AP would be a beast. Folks have been gushing over him as the next Dickerson since he was in junior high.

Alot of people thought he was a beast, but like he said, nobody thought he would be this good in the NFL. Same thing applies to Richardson, alot of people think he is a beast(and have so since his freshman year), but nobody thinks he will do what Peterson is doing.

You guys must be crazy. I am a huge Richardson fan (I've been on his jock for 3 years now), but he is not even a shadow of what Adrian Peterson was as a prospect.People were pegging Peterson as one of the all-time great NFL running backs before he'd even committed to a school in college. When people draft a dynasty running back they're usually hoping to get a good FF player. People drafting Peterson were hoping to draft a guy who would end up being the best RB in the history of the NFL. That was his upside.

Peterson was a 1st round pick in startup dynasty drafts and a 2nd round pick in redraft leagues as a rookie stepping into a situation where he'd be sharing carries with a running back that had just run for 1200 yards the year before. The only thing holding him back at all was his injury history.

Just because people didn't unanimously draft him #1 overall in startup drafts as a rookie doesn't mean that he was any less of a prospect. No one will ever do that. No one. But Peterson is probably the closest to it.

Richardson is a great prospect. Peterson was almost widely, and almost universally by the big dogs, considered a once in a lifetime prospect. There's a huge difference there.

People didn't think Peterson was going to be this good? Please, there's probably a fairly hefty contingent of people for whom Peterson has done less than they expected. Personally, I'm shocked that he hasn't had one of those uber record breaking FF years yet.

I was so high on Peterson that I STILL don't put as much weight into what the people that weren't high on Peterson post on this board to this day. To me, he was that obvious of a home run.

Peterson was a 4th round pick in redraft leagues his rookie year. Nobody thought Peterson would be the best running back in the history of the league. If that was even close to the consensus, he would have gone higher than number 7. In 2006, 2005, and 2008, a combined 5 running backs went in the top five, so if Peterson was even widely considered a top 10 RB of all time he would have gone higher than 7. The year before Reggie Bush was a higher regarded prospect, which takes away the once in a lifetime argument. I'm not even going to mention the injury concenrns he had. He was an excellent prospect, but your making it sound like pre-draft it was a conclusion he would be a top 3 all time back, which is not the case.

 

[BigTex]

I remember a lot of people being very, very high on ADP before he was drafted in the NFL.

Just saying

 

[Go deep]

I remember a lot of people being very, very high on ADP before he was drafted in the NFL.

Just saying

I remember everyone was very high on Peterson. I dont think anyone would argue that.

 

[Boom Switch]

Im kinda intrigued by Brandon Bolden RB Ole Miss...

 

[jurb26]

Nice. A thread about the 2012 RB prospects is currently 70% about A. Peterson....

 

[No Way Jose]

Nice. A thread about the 2012 RB prospects is currently 70% about A. Peterson....

Can't believe I just read all that. I would like to hear a little about Chris Polk, he seems to be getting some buzz.

 

[bucksoh]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

I would be shocked if Richardson measures over 5'10". He looks like he is 5'8". My guess is he is somewhere in-between.

 

[moderated]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

I would be shocked if Richardson measures over 5'10". He looks like he is 5'8". My guess is he is somewhere in-between.

What? Looks 5'8", no way.

 

[J-Dawg]

I like Chris Polk but haven't watched enough of him. I was mostly focused on Locker when I'd watch Husky games but Polk seems like an early bet to go 2nd or 3rd round next April. Built solidly and runs with good power. I think he'll likely be a mid to late 1st round rookie pick next year assuming he declares.

I'm reading different opinions on Cyrus Gray. Some love his potential, some think he's just okay. Doesn't seem to be a consensus on him yet.

I've gone all-in on the 2012 class and currently have managed to snag 6 1st round picks next year in the hopes of landing at least 2 of these RBs plus Luck and a receiver.

 

[Rodeojones]

 

[gump]

Lowe on Richardson:

For starters, you’re talking about a 225-pound guy who’s run a 10.4 in the 100 meters and a 4.37 in the 40-yard dash.

He said the Alabama strength staff stopped him at 465 pounds on the bench-press.

“They didn’t want me straining anything,” Richardson explained. “But I wonder what I could do for real.”

The same goes for squats and the power clean. Richardson said he wasn’t allowed to go higher than 600 pounds on squats and “did that easy.”

He’s gone all the way up to 365 pounds on the power clean, but added, “I was doing right around that in high school.”

He said his vertical jump is 36 inches, and he possesses just 6 percent body fat.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/22991/tides-richardson-has-few-peers-physically

 

[Christo]

Trent Richardson is right now on the level of Adrian Peterson as a prospect. Not saying he will be Peterson, but nobody thought Peterson would be this good either. Richardon is 6'0 220, Peterson is 6'1 217, and both have crazy speed and vision for a big back. It would not surprise at all if Richardson is a top 5 back in the league.

 

[Christo]

Nice. A thread about the 2012 RB prospects is currently 70% about A. Peterson....

Don't think of it as a discussion on Peterson but a reminder of how willing people are to unashamedly re-write history.

 

[Lash]

Richardson

Davis

Bolden

James

i'm hoping others break out but i's looking like another meh RB class after the top two

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the below quote i just had to comment on is that it just proves the theory that getting the QB or WR in an initial startup is the way to go, only 2 of the RBs out of 19 are still viable

I drafted AD with the #17 overall pick in an initial startup draft before his Junior year of college.

First two rounds of that 2006 Draft...

1.01 RB- Larry Johnson (Chiefs) Bear's Lair

1.02 RB- LaDainian Tomlinson (Chargers) Blue Falcons

1.03 RB- Clinton Portis (Redskins) Mighty CSD

1.04 RB- Shaun Alexander (Seahawks) Tri-Lams

1.05 RB- Cadillac Williams (Bucs) Inconvenient Truth

1.06 QB- Peyton Manning (Colts) Ugly Dawgz

1.07 RB- Tiki Barber (Giants) Houston Texans

1.08 RB- Ronnie Brown (Dolphins) Bishop Reign

1.09 RB- LaMont Jordan (Raiders) Poultry In Motion

1.10 RB- Reggie Bush (Saints) Crimble Crumble

1.11 RB- Steven Jackson (Rams) Terminator

1.12 WR- Larry Fitzgerald (Cardinals) Chosen Ones

1.13 WR- Steve Smith (Panthers) Pride of Pei Mei

1.14 RB- Rudi Johnson (Bengals) Blue Steel

2.01 RB- Edgerrin James (Cardinals) Blue Steel

2.02 RB- Domanick Davis (Texans) Pride of Pei Mei

2.03 RB- Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma) Chosen Ones

2.04 RB- Willis McGahee (Bills) Crimble Crumble

2.05 WR- Chad Johnson (Bengals) Terminator

2.06 WR- Anquan Boldin (Cardinals) Poultry In Motion

2.07 RB- Laurence Maroney (Patriots) Bishop Reign

2.08 WR- Torry Holt (Rams) Houston Texans

2.09 WR- Randy Moss (Raiders) Mighty CSD

2.10 RB- Brian Westbrook (Eagles) Inconvenient Truth

2.11 WR- Terrell Owens (Cowboys) Tri-Lams

2.12 TE- Antonio Gates (Chargers) Bear's Lair

2.13 RB- Kevin Jones (Lions) Blue Falcons

2.14 RB- Julius Jones (Cowboys) Bear's Lair

 

[BuckeyeChaos]