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Brett Favre Trade Talk (1 Viewer)

Hairy Snowman

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Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).

I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn:

Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?

 
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn: Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
:fishing:
 
Pittsburgh and Dallas :confused:

Why would Pittsburgh have any interest when they already have their franchise QB? I don't buy it..

And Dallas? At this point in their careers, I really don't see much difference between Drew Bledsoe and Brett Favre [sorry Favre-lovers]...

 
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn: Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
:fishing:
Seriously, not fishing. Speculation on the interested parties possibly but not that Favre is being quietly shopped. Pretty sure about that. But in the end he would need to approve any trade. Its a no brainer GB would love to make a trade and get value for him (if he would allow it), but last year, when in the same situation, he refused to be traded. This year may be different. He may do it in the best interest of the team. But thats why Im asking - to hear if anyone else has heard this. I have seen nothing on any news station. I know what that sounds like......... :rolleyes: :wall:
 
I don't see it happening at this point, at least not this year.

And what would he be worth anyway? Would anyone even give up a 2nd round pick for the guy at this point?

 
Pittsburgh and Dallas :confused: Why would Pittsburgh have any interest when they already have their franchise QB? I don't buy it..And Dallas? At this point in their careers, I really don't see much difference between Drew Bledsoe and Brett Favre [sorry Favre-lovers]...
My understanding would be depth on either team. Look, this doesnt make much sense to me either. But the source is usually pretty good, thats why Im throwing it in here in the first place. All I know (the sure as I can be about any of this) is Favre is being quietly shopped for picks. My understanding is he already knows about it and would be willing to renegotiate a 1 year deal if the situation was right. Other than that I'm guessing the rest is speculation (because it didn't make sense to me either that he would go to either of those two teams - I would think MAYBE a west coast team IF they had need - but I really don't see that anywhere).And BTW I'm a Favre basher if anything (Bears Fan) - I would prefer to see him stay and get the beating he deserves! :lmao: Besides, He's lost it. But in the right situation.....??
 
They discussed this on PTI the other day. Both Tony and Jason Whitlock said they thought it would happen after this season was over. I don't see any way at all he goes anywhere this year.

 
is this anything like the talk when Favre was supposed to be benched for Mark Brunell..... or was it Matt Hasselbeck.... or wait, wait, when he was going to be traded so Aaron Brooks could start.

 
is this anything like the talk when Favre was supposed to be benched for Mark Brunell..... or was it Matt Hasselbeck.... or wait, wait, when he was going to be traded so Aaron Brooks could start.
No, this is more like the talk about the packers organization wanting to unload favre for draft picks in next years draft. And no, not the packers son, :lmao: Only reason I could see anyone wanting favre at this point is if they had a real chance to go to the superbowl AND they had lost their starter at QB AND most likely, only if they run a west coast offense. Personally, I could see Atlanta before the other places. But even then, they HAVE Vick.I give - Maybe this is just a table offer for when I team needs a QB and the Packers are out of it (Say week 6).
 
Hairy Snowman said:
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn: Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
The friend is an owners son ??? The Packers are a publicly owned team. From the Packers web site -Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly-owned, non-profit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of incorporation were filed with Wisconsin's secretary of state. A total of 4,750,925 shares are owned by 111,967 shareholders - none of whom receives any dividend on the initial investment. The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee.
 
mr. furley said:
Hairy Snowman said:
The friend is an owners son
He's a son of one of the owners of the Packers? :confused:
That's a direct pipeline for info. :lmao:Maybe it's the Saints. If the Pack stumbles out of the gate, I see him sitting, but he has virtually no trade value. What'll they get for him, a 5th rounder and a stick of gum? Maybe as a backup somwhere, but he's not of starter quality on a playoff team anymore. He's part of the reason the Pack is so bad. Mechanics are horrible. Occasionally makes a flashy play, but he's been a pretty bad QB since the 6 int game in the playoffs a few years back.
 
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I just cant see Favre having value anywhere BUT Green Bay. I get the feeling Lambeau Field is the only thing thats kept him going for some reason. Put him anywhere else and I think he gets old even quicker than he has.

He hasnt proven himself to be the mentor type. Too competitive, tough, crusty and downright instinctual about how he plays the game.

 
Hairy Snowman said:
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn: Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
The friend is an owners son ??? The Packers are a publicly owned team. From the Packers web site -Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly-owned, non-profit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of incorporation were filed with Wisconsin's secretary of state. A total of 4,750,925 shares are owned by 111,967 shareholders - none of whom receives any dividend on the initial investment. The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee.
I already said, not the son of the packers organization. That was laughable. Another team owners son. He is not involved in any football operations. We just talk sometimes. Sometimes he has insights that other people dont. Im not talking to the VP of personell or anything like that. Just another guy like you and me whose family happens to be in the business, thats all. People make way to big a deal about things. I was just looking to see if anyone had heard anything similar. Next time I'll keep it to myself.
 
Hairy Snowman said:
mr. furley said:
is this anything like the talk when Favre was supposed to be benched for Mark Brunell..... or was it Matt Hasselbeck.... or wait, wait, when he was going to be traded so Aaron Brooks could start.
No, this is more like the talk about the packers organization wanting to unload favre for draft picks in next years draft. And no, not the packers son, :lmao: Only reason I could see anyone wanting favre at this point is if they had a real chance to go to the superbowl AND they had lost their starter at QB AND most likely, only if they run a west coast offense. Personally, I could see Atlanta before the other places. But even then, they HAVE Vick.I give - Maybe this is just a table offer for when I team needs a QB and the Packers are out of it (Say week 6).
Atlanta? NO way. Schaub is a great backup. I think Atlanta has a better chance to win with Schaub in than with VICK. The only reason I see Vick playing is they sell so many of his jerseys. He can't throw the ball with any consistency. He's a great runner, but he's no NFL QB.
 
Cappy said:
Why would ANY team want Brett Favre at this point?
The Raiders would take him.
NOw that, I could see. But, it's not like the Raiders are build to win this year, or next. Why trade picks for Favre? But then they haven't exactly been a wisely run franchise of late. I take that back. They did unload Doug Jolley for a #1 pick last year. And people question whether Deion Branch is worth a #1. Based on that trade, Branch is worth AT LEAST 2-#1's, and some cash. :yes:
 
I'm pretty sure Favre would only allow a trade where he would be a starter right away. No chance that happens during the season, so the earliest it could be is after this year. The only team I can think that would want a vet QB for one year would be WAS. Too bad it will be Jason Campbell's 3rd year and he will be the starter.

 
Favre will NOT accept being traded to a team with an already established QB. He is a competitor, and he's not going to be traded away from the team and the fans that have treated him so well over the years, just to be a backup. It makes ZERO sense.

There are very few teams right now that I could see Favre moving to, like maybe Oakland or Buffalo. Both teams have no chance at a playoff run, which I believe is another reason why Favre would quash such ideas.

 
Hairy Snowman said:
mr. furley said:
is this anything like the talk when Favre was supposed to be benched for Mark Brunell..... or was it Matt Hasselbeck.... or wait, wait, when he was going to be traded so Aaron Brooks could start.
No, this is more like the talk about the packers organization wanting to unload favre for draft picks in next years draft. And no, not the packers son, :lmao: Only reason I could see anyone wanting favre at this point is if they had a real chance to go to the superbowl AND they had lost their starter at QB AND most likely, only if they run a west coast offense. Personally, I could see Atlanta before the other places. But even then, they HAVE Vick.I give - Maybe this is just a table offer for when I team needs a QB and the Packers are out of it (Say week 6).
Atlanta? NO way. Schaub is a great backup. I think Atlanta has a better chance to win with Schaub in than with VICK. The only reason I see Vick playing is they sell so many of his jerseys. He can't throw the ball with any consistency. He's a great runner, but he's no NFL QB.
I agree - but could Schaub take them to a Super Bowl IF Vick was injured. In that case maybe you pull the trigger for a back-up. I don't think this trade happens now the way things stand either. I'm speculating on who even COULD have any interest at all. I agree Raiders would take him.I'm begining to agree with the pool though, why would anyone want him? Raiders, maybe. But other than that, who? Where could he possibly fit?Thanks for the input guys - PeaceHSPS I'm guessing, the more we discuss this, that this is a standing (tabled) offer by the packers on what they would need to receive for Favre. This wouldn't mean they were trading him, simply that they were open for talks. IMO at this point, after discussion, someone would need to have an injury for him to be traded. IMO the packers are just putting it out there to see who is nibbling and to make everyone aware in case of catastrophic injury that he is available. I also still think there are only a limited number of teams he would approve a trade to.
 
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Hairy Snowman said:
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).

I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn:

Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
The friend is an owners son ??? The Packers are a publicly owned team.

From the Packers web site -

Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly-owned, non-profit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of incorporation were filed with Wisconsin's secretary of state.

A total of 4,750,925 shares are owned by 111,967 shareholders - none of whom receives any dividend on the initial investment.

The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee.
I already said, not the son of the packers organization. That was laughable. Another team owners son. He is not involved in any football operations. We just talk sometimes. Sometimes he has insights that other people dont. Im not talking to the VP of personell or anything like that. Just another guy like you and me whose family happens to be in the business, thats all. People make way to big a deal about things. I was just looking to see if anyone had heard anything similar. Next time I'll keep it to myself.
Rich.
 
I'd be willing to bet that Favre's comment from a week or two ago that he'd be willing to close out his career for a team other than Green Bay in order to keep playing led to an informal conversation where some comment was made that was misinterpreted by some dude's son.

If you know Favre, if you know Green Bay, if you know football, if you know salary cap situations, there ain't no way Favre is going anywhere.

What if Favre leaves GB and has a #### year for the Raiders and the Raiders cut him? You think he'll go back to Green Bay for next year's season? No way. Would he go somewhere else? Unlikely. His career would be done and perhaps before Favre wants it to end.

 
I'd be willing to bet that Favre's comment from a week or two ago that he'd be willing to close out his career for a team other than Green Bay in order to keep playing led to an informal conversation where some comment was made that was misinterpreted by some dude's son.If you know Favre, if you know Green Bay, if you know football, if you know salary cap situations, there ain't no way Favre is going anywhere.What if Favre leaves GB and has a #### year for the Raiders and the Raiders cut him? You think he'll go back to Green Bay for next year's season? No way. Would he go somewhere else? Unlikely. His career would be done and perhaps before Favre wants it to end.
So you think he's completely done? Put a fork in him?Personally, I think this is it for him anyways - this year will be his last regardless - so if he can get some players for his team at the same time ..... It could be construed as a falling on his sword gesture for the overall benefit of the Packers.But I just don't see it unless he gets to start for a team who can go to a superbowl. People would need to get hurt first. Its a long season, it could happen. But I'm moving on. When is the trade deadline? I'll think about this again then.Thanks again pool.
 
I'd be willing to bet that Favre's comment from a week or two ago that he'd be willing to close out his career for a team other than Green Bay in order to keep playing led to an informal conversation where some comment was made that was misinterpreted by some dude's son.If you know Favre, if you know Green Bay, if you know football, if you know salary cap situations, there ain't no way Favre is going anywhere.What if Favre leaves GB and has a #### year for the Raiders and the Raiders cut him? You think he'll go back to Green Bay for next year's season? No way. Would he go somewhere else? Unlikely. His career would be done and perhaps before Favre wants it to end.
So you think he's completely done? Put a fork in him?Personally, I think this is it for him anyways - this year will be his last regardless - so if he can get some players for his team at the same time ..... It could be construed as a falling on his sword gesture for the overall benefit of the Packers.But I just don't see it unless he gets to start for a team who can go to a superbowl. People would need to get hurt first. Its a long season, it could happen. But I'm moving on. When is the trade deadline? I'll think about this again then.Thanks again pool.
I don't think he's done at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he played three more years in GB or left after this year and played two years somewhere else. He turns 37 later this season and may have a new stud WR in development in Jennings. Some positive signs for the future could go a long way in Favre's mind.
 
Ok, if you want some fun speculation, here's a scenario that works (though I have no idea what the cap situation would be like):

San Diego

Phillip Rivers struggles during a year in which San Diego considers itself a serious contender in its own conference, and when both the GM and head coach are feeling their job security threatened. Just before the trade deadline and with a .500 record they trade for Favre.

How's that? :shrug:

 
Hairy Snowman said:
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn: Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
The friend is an owners son ??? The Packers are a publicly owned team. From the Packers web site -Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly-owned, non-profit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of incorporation were filed with Wisconsin's secretary of state. A total of 4,750,925 shares are owned by 111,967 shareholders - none of whom receives any dividend on the initial investment. The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee.
I already said, not the son of the packers organization. That was laughable. Another team owners son. He is not involved in any football operations. We just talk sometimes. Sometimes he has insights that other people dont. Im not talking to the VP of personell or anything like that. Just another guy like you and me whose family happens to be in the business, thats all. People make way to big a deal about things. I was just looking to see if anyone had heard anything similar. Next time I'll keep it to myself.
Sure - it was a different owners son - yeah that's the ticket.
 
Cheeseheads would burn the owners houses to the ground... except they own the team themselves. Hmm. Look, all this loose talk could end up with Greenbay in flames, which, in retrospect, i guess i dont have a problem with. Proceed.

 
Favre's not done. He's not getting traded. He's not retiring.

I get sick of all the talk of how ####ty he played last year. YES, 29 INT's is completely unacceptable. And so was the line-play, the running game, the receiving game, the defense and the special teams.

They were AWFUL. Favre made the same throws last year as he has made in the previous 13. In the past he had guys that would go up and fight for the ball.. he had receivers that knew where to be on the field.. he didn't have a coaching staff that didn't have a clue... asking him to throw the ball 61 times in a game when the pass-rush was absolutely POURING through the center of the line.

it's ridiculous.

you could put Joe Montana there and if the coaches ask him to pass to win the games ... he's going to throw picks.

period.

the team he had last year was HORRENDOUS and he was asked to throw them on his back and win at all costs. an INT is an INT is an INT. it's not going to prevent him from trying to make that same play again next time. you're already DOWN by 17 and the coaches have abandoned the game plan, stopped running the ball and your receivers aren't good enough to get open.... you HAVE to throw the ball to make plays.... SOMEONE has to do it. running the 2002-2003 Bears offense of 2 yard slants, bubble screens and hitch patterns to the tight end IS NOT GOING TO GET IT DONE.

it's not being done because he's stupid.. or uncoachable.. or because he's trying to sabotage the team... or because he wants to be traded.. or because he wants to be benched so he can retire.

he's got enough confidence in himself and belief in his ability to go right back out and make that same pass again. it's not over-confidence, it's not myopia, it's not delusion. he still has the same arm, the same brain, the same fundamentals (or lack thereof) that he's ALWAYS had.

for 14 years pundits have been waiting for him to have a bad year.. he has one and they are SWARMING to say he sucks and he's washed up.

ridiculous.

stop all the nonsense about how no other team wants him and how he'd be better off retiring than riding the bench for any other team in the league... either you don't watch football or are blinded by the fact that you're sick of watching the guy excel for the last decade.

seriously. bring a rational arguement and not more of the "DAH HE'S UHH HE'S UNCOACHABLE!" or "AHH HE'S YOU KNOW HE THREW 29 INTS LAST YEAR!"

give me some analysis. some sort of thought. put something in to it. WHY does he suck? what has declined in his game in the past 2 years? is it a compilation of the nicks and dents over the years? is he back on the booze? did he suffer a stroke in the off-season?

 
Hairy Snowman said:
Heard from a friend that there is trade nibbling on Favre coming from a few teams - hence his statement the other day about retiring a packer - but I am also hearing that Favre is actually considering allowing the trade and doing a one year deal before returning to the packers to retire later (ala Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Jow Montana, etc).I've heard rumors of Pittsburg and Dallas being particuliarly interested ....... Is anyone else hearing anything like this?? The friend is an owners son and he's usually about 70-80% on his info, so I have to take him seriously. :confused: :popcorn: Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?
The friend is an owners son ??? The Packers are a publicly owned team. From the Packers web site -Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly-owned, non-profit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of incorporation were filed with Wisconsin's secretary of state. A total of 4,750,925 shares are owned by 111,967 shareholders - none of whom receives any dividend on the initial investment. The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee.
I already said, not the son of the packers organization. That was laughable. Another team owners son. He is not involved in any football operations. We just talk sometimes. Sometimes he has insights that other people dont. Im not talking to the VP of personell or anything like that. Just another guy like you and me whose family happens to be in the business, thats all. People make way to big a deal about things. I was just looking to see if anyone had heard anything similar. Next time I'll keep it to myself.
Sure - it was a different owners son - yeah that's the ticket.
:lmao:
 
An injury might get this trade idea going, without it I don't see it happennin'. I thought Roth was due back and not out for the year so it seems to early for Pitt to try this.

I think it would take a high pick to get him, even at his age, and a team would have to be convinced adding Favre=Supe win and without Favre chances aren't good.

For example, if Peyton gets hurt

 
Dark horse: Cleveland.

That would become a very interesting offense with him at QB.

Plus he'd be a perfect mentor for Frye. :mellow:

 
There are a lot of teams and situations that Favre could be good for including potential Superbowl teams, young QB teams and poor QB teams. And just for the record, anybody who thinks just because he had 29 INT's means that he can't get it done or is worthless is not looking at this with all the information or else is listening to the media too much or is just ignorant. Favre lost all his talent last year (OL, RB's and WR) with the exceptioin of Driver. He tried to do too much himself and was in a no win situation. He tried to let his talet win it and nobody else could step up and remember people,,,this is a team game. What separates high quality players in this league many times is being in the right situation surrounded by other high quality talent. Culpepper looked pretty good with Moss and Chris Carter to throw to didn't he.

The right situation will be on a team that Favre will start for and that has a chance to get into the playoffs wit Favre at the helm.

Potential Superbowl Teams:

WAS (Brunell was good last year but his preseason hasn't looked good and Favre is more mobile).

SD (Does Marty think that Rivers has what it takes this year, LT isn't getting any younger and they need to strike while LT can still do it, Favre would be a great mentor for Rivers).

Upgrade the QB teams:

BUF (not enough talent to get to playoffs)

MIA (no guarantee of starting due to $$$ spent on Culpepper unless Culpepper gets injured).

NYJ (Pennington will get a chance to see how his arm is recovered before this is even a conversation)

BAL (McNair is good enough to improve them already)

CLE (CLE probably doesn't have enough talent to make it even with Favre)

PIT (this is ridiculous since they wouldn't bench Ben)

TEN (Collins not a threat but probably not enough WR talent to make a run to playoffs)

DEN (Plummer and Cutler are both good enough already)

OAK (good situation, Favre would start and good WR/RB to make a playoff team)

DAL (don't see it with Bledsoe and Romo both good enough already)

CHI (Favre would start over Grossman or Griese, RB good enough but not enough talent at WR2 and going from GB to CHI in the same division would be like Johnny Damon going to the Yankees).

DET (Favre would improve over Kitna and WR talent is awesome but it's the NFC North and would the Pack trade him within the division???maybe they would. GB isn't competing with CHI this year or next anyway, GB weakens CHI long term with draft picks and Favre probably only plays two more years. Favre throwing to Martz WR's would be fun to watch). IF GB can look long term then this is a good deal.

MIN (Brad Johnson is plenty good enough to help MIN right now so that the diff in upside isn't worth it).

ATL (Vick, Vick, Vick come on people, Vick isn't going on the bench for Favre)

NO (Brees arm strength is a ??? Favre could be an improvement but NO probably needs to wait to see more of Brees before pulling the trigger on this deal. NO probably needs a more long term solution since they are probably more than a year away from making the playoffs)

TB (sitting Simms would be a huge demotion and a vote of no confidence in Simms, don't see it happening)

I guess that's all the potential situations I see.

The best situations look like WAS, SD, OAK and DET.

 
They did unload Doug Jolley for a #1 pick last year. And people question whether Deion Branch is worth a #1. Based on that trade, Branch is worth AT LEAST 2-#1's, and some cash. :yes:
That's not correct. They traded Jolley and a high 2nd rounder for the mid 1st rounder. They essentially used Jolley to move up about 16 or so spots in the draft. It was not straight up for the 1st rounder.Favre would look good in Silver and Black and I think he'd give them at least two decent seasons if traded right now. However, I think Washington is the most logical spot if he is to be traded. They like overpaying in trades and desperately need a legit QB. Brunell is a joke.
 
I have said this many times, but it will NEVER happen. Da Bears.

Great defense, solid running game, decent Wideouts. Farve could take them to the Super Bowl.

Once again, never happen.

 

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