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Brian Brohm staying at U of L (1 Viewer)

jeter23

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Added in the underclassmen thread, but thought it deserved its own thread, since he could be the #1 pick next year.

Brohm staying at U of L

09:34 AM EST on Monday, January 15, 2007

Brohm staying at U of L

You can rest easy Cardinal fans.

Brian Brohm announced this morning that he will by-pass the opportunity to play in the NFL and stay for his senior season at U of L.

The Cardinal Quarterback stated that he did not reach his final conclusion until late Saturday night.

Brohm says that he feels there are still things to be accomplished at U of L with the leadership of new coach Steve Kragthorpe, such as winning the Big East for a second year and possibly a National Title.

http://www.whas11.com/topstories/stories/0...m.4131d872.html

 
Guy was projected for the top half of the first round and lost his coach. Losing Michael Bush isn't that big a deal since he missed nearly the entire past season anyway, but still.

 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.

 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
 
Smart move by Brohm.

He has a chance to be the # 1 pick in the draft next year, which is a huge difference in $$$$. He also can also answer questions about his durability.

 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
Players are free to buy injury insurance on themselves if they want to avoid that risk.
 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
Players are free to buy injury insurance on themselves if they want to avoid that risk.
any idea how much a policy like that would cost? ah whats it matter then can just use their college game checks to pay for it :violin:
 
Bad decision IMO, both leinart and quinn's stock dropped after choosing to stay no way brohm's goes up.
Why not? Brohm still has much to prove, namely staying durable. He would likely be battling QUinn this year for the # 2 qb spot behind Jamarcus Russell. He has the chance to be the # 1 overall pick next year, his skill set is there.
 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
Players are free to buy injury insurance on themselves if they want to avoid that risk.
any idea how much a policy like that would cost? ah whats it matter then can just use their college game checks to pay for it :o
The cost depends on how much insurance they want. Let's say I was a top college player, I would probably want about $10M in case I get injured in my senior year and fall off of the 1st round. This contract would probably cost around $100k. That's a lot of money, but it would be fairly easy to get a loan because the bank would be paid back no matter what happens:1. Get injured, get $10M and can pay back the loan with the insurance proceeds

2. Don't get injured, get drafted in 1st round, use signing bonus to pay back the loan

The risk to the bank would be if the guy does not get injured AND is not drafted, but relatively remote. Nothing is ever risk-free anyway - banks are used to deal with risk.

 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
Players are free to buy injury insurance on themselves if they want to avoid that risk.
any idea how much a policy like that would cost? ah whats it matter then can just use their college game checks to pay for it :o
The cost depends on how much insurance they want. Let's say I was a top college player, I would probably want about $10M in case I get injured in my senior year and fall off of the 1st round. This contract would probably cost around $100k. That's a lot of money, but it would be fairly easy to get a loan because the bank would be paid back no matter what happens:1. Get injured, get $10M and can pay back the loan with the insurance proceeds

2. Don't get injured, get drafted in 1st round, use signing bonus to pay back the loan

The risk to the bank would be if the guy does not get injured AND is not drafted, but relatively remote. Nothing is ever risk-free anyway - banks are used to deal with risk.
Thanks for that. Always wondered about the cost and how a college kid could afford that.If Brohm can move up in the draft, I can see the value in going back for another year. There's a ton of uncertainty though, so it isn't without downside risk.

 
Oh, look...Vonage!

One smart choice among many stupid ones...

It will be tough for him to be as productive under a new coach. I think this costs him.

 
I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
Players are free to buy injury insurance on themselves if they want to avoid that risk.
any idea how much a policy like that would cost? ah whats it matter then can just use their college game checks to pay for it :o
The cost depends on how much insurance they want. Let's say I was a top college player, I would probably want about $10M in case I get injured in my senior year and fall off of the 1st round. This contract would probably cost around $100k. That's a lot of money, but it would be fairly easy to get a loan because the bank would be paid back no matter what happens:1. Get injured, get $10M and can pay back the loan with the insurance proceeds

2. Don't get injured, get drafted in 1st round, use signing bonus to pay back the loan

The risk to the bank would be if the guy does not get injured AND is not drafted, but relatively remote. Nothing is ever risk-free anyway - banks are used to deal with risk.
Someone mentioned the insurance thing in the Peterson thread. I thought we learned during the McGahee mishap that this insurance only covers career ending injuries. I don't think there's a policy that guarantees someone first round pick money if, for instance, they tear their rotator cuff and fall to the second round. I could be wrong though, but I remember concluding that the "insurance protection for injury" argument wasn't quite so strong.In fact, I'd be surprised if McGahee collected any insurance money even though he fell from a top 5ish pick to #21 and lost millions. IIRC if he played in the NFL, then then the policy was voided.

 
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I actually think that more players should do this. Using Dwayne Jarrett as an example, I'm concerned about his level of maturity and whether he's gotten enough experience to successfully transition into the NFL. I think he's better, but I wonder if he's another Mike Williams in waiting. Another year in college playing every down would be far better for his development than a year in the pros largely sitting.

The decisions by these guys tend to be made based solely upon the money they'll get in their first contract (after their junior year) and not based upon actually building a career.

There are certain positions I don't think about this way, such as D-line or RB or CB, but I certainly think it's true on the positions that require a lot of study.
which is more then what most people make in a lifetime...stay in school and risk an injury and getting nothing or come out and set yourself up for life?
Players are free to buy injury insurance on themselves if they want to avoid that risk.
any idea how much a policy like that would cost? ah whats it matter then can just use their college game checks to pay for it :o
The cost depends on how much insurance they want. Let's say I was a top college player, I would probably want about $10M in case I get injured in my senior year and fall off of the 1st round. This contract would probably cost around $100k. That's a lot of money, but it would be fairly easy to get a loan because the bank would be paid back no matter what happens:1. Get injured, get $10M and can pay back the loan with the insurance proceeds

2. Don't get injured, get drafted in 1st round, use signing bonus to pay back the loan

The risk to the bank would be if the guy does not get injured AND is not drafted, but relatively remote. Nothing is ever risk-free anyway - banks are used to deal with risk.
:goodposting: There are ways to make this work financially.

My point is that there are no guarantees in the draft either - there's risk everywhere. Players sometimes fall unexpectedly in the draft.

I just think players at certain positions can often (not always of course) benefit from the additional playing time and reps that come from being a college starter more than they would from sitting (as they often do) for their first year (or more) in the pros. The payoff would be on each subsequent contract in theory as a more developed player would have shown more in their career by then.

 
It's not like the cupboard is bare for Brohm next year. He has his whole offense returning essentially.

He would probably carry a late 1st early 2nd round grade with the chance to move to the top 15 with great workouts. Going back another year, having a successful, injury free year (probably his biggest knock), could vault him to the # 1 pick in the draft.

 
I don't think it was a guarantee that he was a first rounder.

He could easily have not been picked by Jacksonville's pick at #17, and if that's the case, he'd likely fall all the way to the 2nd, unless someone traded up.

Which teams would take him. Remember that Brady Quinn could still go ahead of him and names like Jake Plummer, Byron Leftwich, and a couple others may be available in FA.

He's not going top 7.

1. Oakland

2. Detroit

3. Tampa Bay

4. Cleveland

5. Arizona

6. Washington

7. Minnesota

8. Houston - Possible

9. Miami - Possible

10. Atlanta

11. San Francisco

12. Buffalo

13. St. Louis

14. Carolina - Possible

15. Pittsburgh

16. Green Bay - Possible

17. Jacksonville - Possible

18. Cincinnati

19. Tennessee

20. New York Giants

21. Denver

22. Dallas

23. Kansas City

24. New England (from Seattle)

25. New York Jets

26. Philadelphia

27. New Orleans

28. New England

29. Baltimore - Possible

30. San Diego

31. Chicago

32. Indianapolis

 
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Wow, that seems like a bad call.
:lmao: , risking his health and likely throwing money down the drain.It shouldnt have taken him 5 mins to declare himself after Petrino left.
Agreed.He could have guaranteed the future financial security of his children...and grandchildren......by declaring and being snagged in the 1st.
I know we're talking about a different level of money, but the Brohm's certainly aren't hurting financially as it is.
 
I don't think it was a guarantee that he was a first rounder.

He could easily have not been picked by Jacksonville's pick at #17, and if that's the case, he'd likely fall all the way to the 2nd, unless someone traded up.

Which teams would take him. Remember that Brady Quinn could still go ahead of him and names like Jake Plummer, Byron Leftwich, and a couple others may be available in FA.

He's not going top 7.

1. Oakland

2. Detroit

3. Tampa Bay

4. Cleveland

5. Arizona

6. Washington

7. Minnesota

8. Houston - Possible

9. Miami - Possible

10. Atlanta

11. San Francisco

12. Buffalo

13. St. Louis

14. Carolina - Possible

15. Pittsburgh

16. Green Bay - Possible

17. Jacksonville - Possible

18. Cincinnati

19. Tennessee

20. New York Giants

21. Denver

22. Dallas

23. Kansas City

24. New England (from Seattle)

25. New York Jets

26. Philadelphia

27. New Orleans

28. New England

29. Baltimore - Possible

30. San Diego

31. Chicago

32. Indianapolis
Aside from the $ implications, I would say that Jay Cutler (11th), Big Ben (11th) and Matt Leinart (10th) make a strong case that you don't want to be a Top 5 pick, unless you really want to be a part of a rebuilding process / turnaround of a franchise that could take years.
 
[Homer Alert] I am Louisville native, and U of L graduate, who is about the same age as Brian’s older brother Greg. We played against each other in multiple sports throughout grade school and high school. I was not talented enough to go into collegiate athletics, although Greg did quite well as a University of Louisville wide receiver in the late 80’s and early 90’s. I have not seen or spoken to Greg in the past two years, so I do not want to imply that I have any inside information on this current issue, but I do have some personal experience with the Brohm family attitude. [/Homer Alert]

With that disclaimer in mind, let me begin by pointing out the previous “blunder” that Brian made in his decision making process regarding his football career. When he came out of high school, he was generally considered one of the top five quarterback prospects in the nation. He received scholarship offers from Notre Dame, Tennessee, Alabama, Nebraska, Purdue, Illinois, Kentucky and others. At this time he had his choice of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 or the media friendly Independent ND to showcase his skills.

What did he do? He chose Conference USA (soon to be Big East member though)! Yep…U of L and Conference USA was his choice. “MISTAKE”, cried the pundits…even many of our local pundits. Now the question is: why did he make this choice?

Primarily, Brian’s family has an established history in Louisville and the University of Louisville athletics. His father Oscar was a previous U of L quarterback; his brother Greg was a previous U of L wide receiver, and his brother Jeff was a previous U of L quarterback that went on to brief NFL career. In short, he inherited a strong sense of commitment to the U of L program and the Louisville community at large.

Secondly, he bought into the idea that the U of L program was on the rise and would soon become a team of national recognition that could showcase his skills nearly (or equally) as well as the other programs he passed on. At the time, this was quite a gamble that many believed would come back to haunt him and lower his potential NFL draft status. However, he wanted to be a part of the vision and growth of U of L football.

Now, this in and of itself shows a lot about his character and priorities, but it does not tell the whole story. Brian stated from the very beginning of his career at U of L that he fully believed that a BCS national title was within reach here. At the time, we had some reserved aspirations, but most were not ready to believe this. Well, whether anyone believes that it is deserved or not, U of L has entered into that conversation. I must give this one to Brian and his brain-trust! LOL

Now we must enter the present. Bobby Petrino has just left to coach the Falcons. Michael Bush has just declared his intent to enter the 2007 NFL draft. Our two top wide receivers were considering the possibilities of entering into the NFL draft. What is a team leader to do? Well, Brain decided to stay and pursue his original goal of making U of L a potential BCS champion. Do I believe it is possible or deserved in 2007? I do not know.

BUT, I do KNOW that Brian Brohm has made a commitment to the University of Louisville and the Louisville community at large that he intends to stand behind! Even at the potential risk to his own financial future, he has decided to stand by his original pledge, goals and ideals to push forward our football program. His decision does not surprise me in the least.

Is this a financial and/or professional mistake? Perhaps, for only the future will tell. But I will say this…he has endeared himself so well to our community that even if he never plays another snap of football anywhere because of injury, he and his offspring will live well to the end of their days because of the choices he has made and the role that he will play in our city until the end of his working days. He may not make the same kind of money as a Peyton Manning if this were to occur, but his well being will never be in question. Mark it down! LOL ;)

Finally, this topic makes me reflect upon the topics of Nick Saban and our departing coach of Bobby Petrino. Many here have commented on the importance of dedication to a program and keeping one’s word. In a sea of cold hearted business decisions that is often the norm in the NCAA and the NFL, I find it a breath of fresh air to find someone willing to stand upon their word rather than flying to the biggest money and/or best opportunity.

God bless you Brian Brohm! I wish you the best in all worlds and hope that the integrity and commitment that you have displayed here will shine on to anyone who considers you for any future job in the NFL or elsewhere.

OK, I guess that is enough from a blatant Homer on this topic. ;)

 
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There are some rumors going around that he stayed due to an injury. We'll see if that is true.
If that is true, it would be news to me. However, I will not discount you sources, for as I said earlier, I have not spoken to any of the Brohm's in the past two years. I may see Greg in the next month perhaps, but even if I do, I doubt this kind of thing would be discussed by us, for I am not close enough to get such info.I do hope for Brian's sake that your sources are wrong though. :nerd: ;)
 
There are some rumors going around that he stayed due to an injury. We'll see if that is true.
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.d...ORTS02/70119022University of Louisville quarterback Brian Brohm had arthroscopic shoulder surgery on Tuesday, U of L team spokesman Rocco Gasparro confirmed.

Brohm had surgery on his left (non-throwing) labrum by Dr. David Caborn, and Brohm is expected to fully recover in six weeks in time for spring practice.

Gasparro said the surgery was to clean up the shoulder and was minor.

Brohm announced on Monday that he would bypass the NFL Draft to return for his senior season.

Not sure how much this might have affected his decision to stay at UofL.

 
Man of Constant Sorrow, :goodposting:

I hope it works out well for him either way. I like it when players stay at local schools and help them transition to a big power that Louisville has become.

I also have to agree with him on one point: even if he does suffer some injury that prohibits or limits him in the NFL, he will be a hero around Lousiville. He could do anything and make money with the marketing ability he has right now in Louisville. From this vantage point, money is not his concern. His concern is what is his dream?

From some of the musings here, it seems a majority of people here went to college. Do you remember how awesome college was? My life is great, and I have many blessings. But I LOVED my time in college. I wasn't a varsity athelete, and I loved my time in college. I wouldn't have cut it short for anything in the world. I can't imagine if I was the big man on campus, as Brohm is. I can understand him wanting to stay in college one more year. Yes, there is risk, as there is with anything.

I applaud him for choosing what makes him happy. For those who choose to declare for the NFL draft, I applaud them too if that is what makes them happy.

 

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