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You're nitpicking.
To an average man 100,000 for turning someone in is big money. Good move by Broncos, they could've done nothing at all...
wow, I've never seen a post back up a person's name so much like your post here.This is just another very classy move by a very classy organization. This is the players only, I wonder how much Bowlen throws into the mix. He has been great to Williams family and to the players throughout this.
If your a scumbag low-life it would probably take you 5 years to make 100K on a Mcdonald's salary. I'm amazed at the few people that think the Broncos should've done more. Yea, they could afford to pay more...but on the contrary, it also wouldnt hurt them if they didn't pay anything at all. If I was walking down the street and randomly gave you a 5 dollar bill, would you look at me and say "is this all you have?" Pretty sure you'd just gladly take the 5 dollars and go about your merry way.
I'm with you. Just think if each guy gave up $5,000 and the reward was closer to 400 or 500,000. That's enough for people to turn someone in, and it's not a drain on the players. It's all relevant, nice gesture, but could be more like OP said
From everything that I've read, a couple of the Broncos players have already done this. T.Bell, Lynch, Foxworth, Walker, and Bailey were the players that I had read that were involved.
this is the same organization that teaches chop blocking and has been found guilty of cheating the salary cap during both of their recent super bowl seasons, right?
so with that logic, Houston, Green Bay, and Atlanta aren't classy either......get it through your head, chop block in the sense that these teams do it is not illegal, get the definitions right firstthe way the Gibbs system does chop blocks is to go low above the knees to block, that is perfectly legalyou are thinking about clipping, something neither of these teams do.
Your average lowlife will sell out their friends for 50 bucks. That’s all it takes to get high.
People get sold out for far less than $100k. Also if the person has that much fear of retaliation the state should be looking at witness protection not the Broncos.
You are overestimating the mental capacity of someone who pulled up to a limo and shot into it. They are not going to think things though. Besides, all they have to do is join another gang.
You bring this up so often and it's simply not true.If paying players under the table is the equivalent of vehicular homicide, the Broncos were guilty of speeding.Cap-related violations (in this case, writing a "cut date" into a player's contract and deferring actual payments in order to finance a new stadium without consulting the NFL) are not the same as cheating the cap (paying players under the table), which is why the penalties were so light (IIRC just 2 3rd-round picks taken away).The media went with the juicy "Broncos caught cheating" headlines so I don't blame you for thinking that's the case, but I figured I should clear the air.While we're at it, IIRC both the Steelers and 49ers were guilty of more egregious cap-related violations in the past.EDIT: Not trying to justify or downplay what the Broncos did wrong here ... they broke the rules and were punished. I don't like one bit what they did (even if I think the salary cap is unnecessary if you have a good revenue sharing model) and hope they don't try any tricks like that in the future.
I second this posting.
I didn't know the guy, they did. Why would I be inclined to kick in money to find his killer? Does the fact that he played football somehow make his murder a bigger tragedy/travesty than all the other murders we read about on a daily basis for which no rewards are ever offered? I do know, if it was a friend of mine, and I could only find it in my heart to kick in $75 bucks to find the killer, I would rightly be thought of as a tool.
His kids have nothing to worry about financially.It's been taken care of by his fellow team members, coaches, and Bowlen.
With all that being true:Are they "classy"?
This sounds like a nice gesture, but come on. I am a huge Broncos fan but don't think for a moment that his kids aren't sitting pretty already from the hundreds of thousands of dollars (or millions) that he has earned plus any life insurance policies he had out. They will have more money by the time they are teens than most of their fans will earn in 20 years, myself included with 5 kids. Or, they could do like so many people in this great country did to earn school money: Join the military (which I am in) and get the GI Bill. I don't want to sound cruel, but sheesh, send your money to United Way or something.
I'm a huge Broncos fan and would vote "no" on that.It's a silly descriptor for sports teams, IMO. People are classy.I think Pat Bowlen is fairly classy. I think Shanahan shows class in general but not always (although the running up the score complaints vs. Philly in 2005 I think is nonsense). I think guys like Rod Smith and Champ Bailey are almost the definition of class but they're not the whole team.But overall for the organization to be classy? I don't think so.
and you know this how?
I think you're potentially underestimating the mental capacity of whoever did this. Are there even any leads yet? Up to this point, it looks like he may have done a good job of killing someone in a public place and getting away with it. Not exactly the easiest thing in the world to pull off.Just because someone does something stupid, that doesn't make them a stupid person (as someone correctly pointed out in one of the Merriman steroid threads).
Link?
Do people get sold out for less than $100K in such high profile cases as this? Could you please provide some examples?And witness protection will only get you so far. Why would someone volunteer to step forward if they're just going to have to say goodbye to their friends and family forever and start up a whole new life again from scratch?
Radio.
Call me crazy, but if one of my buddies was killed, I'd pony up a lot more than $150. And I don't make much more than the $50K average salary you used.According to this link, the Broncos team payroll was a hair under $90 million this season (that's actual team salary, not their cap figure). If my math is correct, $100K out of $90M is like a tenth of 1%... about 50 bucks to the average $50K worker.TD Ryan said:
I think every team in the NFL should pony up for this one...I know that Ellis Hobbs would.Call me crazy, but if one of my buddies was killed, I'd pony up a lot more than $150. And I don't make much more than the $50K average salary you used.According to this link, the Broncos team payroll was a hair under $90 million this season (that's actual team salary, not their cap figure). If my math is correct, $100K out of $90M is like a tenth of 1%... about 50 bucks to the average $50K worker.TD Ryan said:
Forgive me if I'm not blown away by the overwhelming generosity of these guys.
ETA: That doesn't mean this wasn't a nice gesture. It was. Just not all that generous, that's all.
Agreed.Maybe even players from other professional sports should step up. I think it would send quite a message.I think every team in the NFL should pony up for this one...I know that Ellis Hobbs would.Call me crazy, but if one of my buddies was killed, I'd pony up a lot more than $150. And I don't make much more than the $50K average salary you used.According to this link, the Broncos team payroll was a hair under $90 million this season (that's actual team salary, not their cap figure). If my math is correct, $100K out of $90M is like a tenth of 1%... about 50 bucks to the average $50K worker.TD Ryan said:
Forgive me if I'm not blown away by the overwhelming generosity of these guys.
ETA: That doesn't mean this wasn't a nice gesture. It was. Just not all that generous, that's all.
