Cadillac Williams (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

If there is any updates on his injury could you please post it.

TIA

Tex

 

[thaas]

I did not see the game but talked to a guy that did, said Caddy did come back in but had no carries then went out, what ever that means

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

From the injury thread:

Link.

SEATTLE - Cadillac Williams' healthy start lasted barely more than one half of one game. And there's no telling when he'll feel good again.

Williams has bruised ribs.

For a running back, there's not much worse.

"He took a shot right on his ribs," receiver Michael Clayton said. "It's very, very, extremely painful. Lac is a warrior. He's not coming out of the game unless something is really wrong."

Williams, 25, left with 10 minutes remaining in the third quarter after taking a shot in the rib cage from the side by hard-hitting Seahawks linebacker Lofa Tatupu.

Williams was on the ground for several minutes before being helped up by the training staff and walking off. On the sideline, he continued to wince in pain and soon went to the locker room. He did not return to the field and was not seen after the game.

"You don't like to lose a Carnell Williams," coach Jon Gruden said. "He started the season hurt last year, and it appears he's got some rib injury to start this season. When you have sore ribs and you're a running back and you're playing pro football, that's not a good deal."

Williams, the No. 5 overall pick in 2005, had trouble with back spasms to start 2006. He missed two games each of the past two seasons with foot injuries.

Williams had 60 yards on 12 carries and two receptions for 14 yards. On the Bucs' opening possession, he fumbled after a reception.

Michael Pittman and Earnest Graham split time in his absence, with mixed results. Pittman caught five passes for 32 yards but had a 2-yard average on three carries. Graham carried four times for 11 yards, but fumbled at the end of his only reception.

The fumble, forced by Tatupu, came at Seattle's 12-yard line with the Bucs trailing 20-6 late in the fourth quarter.

"In the NFL, when you turn the ball over and make mistakes, you lose," Graham said. "When Lac goes down, somebody has to step up to make sure we don't lose a step."

Williams' status for Sunday's home opener against the Saints is uncertain.

"I've had ribs, not to the extent of what he's having, but it's tough," Graham said. "It's hard to breathe. Cadillac's a tough guy, but if he can't go, then Pitt and I will be out there."

 

[thaas]

I did not see the game but talked to a guy that did, said Caddy did come back in but had no carries then went out, what ever that means

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I did not see the game but talked to a guy that did, said Caddy did come back in but had no carries then went out, what ever that means

You can say that again.

 

[BigTex]

From the injury thread:

Link.

SEATTLE - Cadillac Williams' healthy start lasted barely more than one half of one game. And there's no telling when he'll feel good again.

Williams has bruised ribs.

For a running back, there's not much worse.

"He took a shot right on his ribs," receiver Michael Clayton said. "It's very, very, extremely painful. Lac is a warrior. He's not coming out of the game unless something is really wrong."

Williams, 25, left with 10 minutes remaining in the third quarter after taking a shot in the rib cage from the side by hard-hitting Seahawks linebacker Lofa Tatupu.

Williams was on the ground for several minutes before being helped up by the training staff and walking off. On the sideline, he continued to wince in pain and soon went to the locker room. He did not return to the field and was not seen after the game.

"You don't like to lose a Carnell Williams," coach Jon Gruden said. "He started the season hurt last year, and it appears he's got some rib injury to start this season. When you have sore ribs and you're a running back and you're playing pro football, that's not a good deal."

Williams, the No. 5 overall pick in 2005, had trouble with back spasms to start 2006. He missed two games each of the past two seasons with foot injuries.

Williams had 60 yards on 12 carries and two receptions for 14 yards. On the Bucs' opening possession, he fumbled after a reception.

Michael Pittman and Earnest Graham split time in his absence, with mixed results. Pittman caught five passes for 32 yards but had a 2-yard average on three carries. Graham carried four times for 11 yards, but fumbled at the end of his only reception.

The fumble, forced by Tatupu, came at Seattle's 12-yard line with the Bucs trailing 20-6 late in the fourth quarter.

"In the NFL, when you turn the ball over and make mistakes, you lose," Graham said. "When Lac goes down, somebody has to step up to make sure we don't lose a step."

Williams' status for Sunday's home opener against the Saints is uncertain.

"I've had ribs, not to the extent of what he's having, but it's tough," Graham said. "It's hard to breathe. Cadillac's a tough guy, but if he can't go, then Pitt and I will be out there."

 

[djjosee]

As my RB2 let's hope all will be well for next week ... but I doubt it.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I hope thier definitive about it. I'd like to IR him if I can but won't be able to if they wiffle waffle all week.

 

[zamboni]

I remember how much LT was hampered a few years back by his kicked-in ribs, and we're talking about LT here. Doesn't sound too promising.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I remember how much LT was hampered a few years back by his kicked-in ribs, and we're talking about LT here. Doesn't sound too promising.

Hmmmm.............considering dumping him altogether now.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

This just in.... he's made of GLASS!! I cut him last week and glad too.

 

[Sabertooth]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

 

[Keys Myaths]

:whitecorner:

 

[ShaqAttaq]

:tetris:

 

[Steelnation]

Wasn't Caddy part of the almighty Otis's all Value team???

 

[BigTex]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm hoping he struggles the next couple of games and I can steal him for cheap - I like his schedule down tghe stretch and in the playoffs (Hou, ATL, SF weeks 14, 15, 16 - preceded by ATL, Wash and NO in weeks 11, 12, 13 for that late playoff push - only thing I dislike is that week 10 bye week)

 

[harryhood]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

Let's hope this is something that can be taken care of with a couple weeks off. Caddy looked extremely good running the ball before the play occurred. You guys are giving him an unfair shake in my opinion. He was making people miss and was running hard. The play he was injured he was trying to make a play when he got upended and then took a helmet right to his rib cage.....and you guys are saying he is made of glass?

 

[Sabertooth]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

Let's hope this is something that can be taken care of with a couple weeks off. Caddy looked extremely good running the ball before the play occurred. You guys are giving him an unfair shake in my opinion. He was making people miss and was running hard. The play he was injured he was trying to make a play when he got upended and then took a helmet right to his rib cage.....and you guys are saying he is made of glass?

The facts remain. He's hasn't done squat since early 2005.

 

[BigTex]

I'm hoping he struggles the next couple of games and I can steal him for cheap - I like his schedule down tghe stretch and in the playoffs (Hou, ATL, SF weeks 14, 15, 16 - preceded by ATL, Wash and NO in weeks 11, 12, 13 for that late playoff push - only thing I dislike is that week 10 bye week)

His schedule is one of the reasons I drafted him. Looks like he'll be on the pine for awhile, but unless he's out for the year there's no way I'm going to let him go. Before the injury (exclude the fumble) he was looking pretty good.

 

[BigTex]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

Let's hope this is something that can be taken care of with a couple weeks off. Caddy looked extremely good running the ball before the play occurred. You guys are giving him an unfair shake in my opinion. He was making people miss and was running hard. The play he was injured he was trying to make a play when he got upended and then took a helmet right to his rib cage.....and you guys are saying he is made of glass?

Hello Mr. harryhood, I'm not sure how I'm given him an "unfair shake"Caddy has talent but he can't stay healthy, this is reality.

 

[harryhood]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

Let's hope this is something that can be taken care of with a couple weeks off. Caddy looked extremely good running the ball before the play occurred. You guys are giving him an unfair shake in my opinion. He was making people miss and was running hard. The play he was injured he was trying to make a play when he got upended and then took a helmet right to his rib cage.....and you guys are saying he is made of glass?

Hello Mr. harryhood, I'm not sure how I'm given him an "unfair shake"Caddy has talent but he can't stay healthy, this is reality.

I am just saying that if you put that hit on ANY back in the NFL, I would be curious to see who would be in there the very next series

 

[Otis]

Wasn't Caddy part of the almighty Otis's all Value team???

My injury crystal ball was down that day He was averaging 5YPC and moving the ball before he got hurt. But, I know, I'm a schmuck.

 

[FFdork]

If it's just bruised ribs and nothing more that's still a tough injury for an RB. I would think the proper course of action for the Bucs would be to give him multiple weeks off and then put him in the flak jacket. If they try to let him play through it, I'll get more concerned because it will drag on and on and on...

I certainly wouldn't cut him like the one guy unless you're in a 6 team league.

Bottom line, I'd love for someone optimistic about his playoff schedule to come offer me a trade right now, but I'm not holding my breath. Otherwise it's plan for the worst and hope for the best.

 

[BigTex]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

Let's hope this is something that can be taken care of with a couple weeks off. Caddy looked extremely good running the ball before the play occurred. You guys are giving him an unfair shake in my opinion. He was making people miss and was running hard. The play he was injured he was trying to make a play when he got upended and then took a helmet right to his rib cage.....and you guys are saying he is made of glass?

Hello Mr. harryhood, I'm not sure how I'm given him an "unfair shake"Caddy has talent but he can't stay healthy, this is reality.

I am just saying that if you put that hit on ANY back in the NFL, I would be curious to see who would be in there the very next series

I'm not sure and I didn't see the hit. But running backs get hit for a living. I'm one that actually like Caddy and his potential, he just hasn't met it yet.

 

[pmccurry]

so....beyond all this speculation and gruden commenting on his own ribs, we have nothing. when would we hear more? im trying to be as optimistic as possible. i think i can remember a couple of runningbacks in the past just wearing more padding and going in and running just fine.

 

[zamboni]

so....beyond all this speculation and gruden commenting on his own ribs, we have nothing.

With injuries, it's therapeutic for owners to assume the worst. Cushions the blow, if you will.

 

[Marc Levin]

so....beyond all this speculation and gruden commenting on his own ribs, we have nothing. when would we hear more? im trying to be as optimistic as possible. i think i can remember a couple of runningbacks in the past just wearing more padding and going in and running just fine.

I think you are right re: other backs running with bruised ribs and a flak jacket - maybe Travis Henry? If the ribs are cracked, however, he'll probably have to sit. I think the tipping point is how much oxygen he can get after being hit. If it is simply pain management, I think a lot of backs would give it a go.

 

[delusional]

blah...just traded betts for him too..

 

[Keys Myaths]

Wasn't Caddy part of the almighty Otis's all Value team???

This is getting old.If people are going to be pulled out and laughed at every time they make a bad prediction, I'm going to start replying to these posts with everything stupid the poster's ever said.Predictions, no matter how well the logic/reasoning is thought out, can be wrong. Let's not discourage open discussion.

 

[gump]

No kidding. Has anybody ever arrived on the scene to boldly and hit the wall after 4 games like caddy in league history?

Yes, but his talent keeps us entangled with hope.Is this where perception and reality collide?

Let's hope this is something that can be taken care of with a couple weeks off. Caddy looked extremely good running the ball before the play occurred. You guys are giving him an unfair shake in my opinion. He was making people miss and was running hard. The play he was injured he was trying to make a play when he got upended and then took a helmet right to his rib cage.....and you guys are saying he is made of glass?

The facts remain. He's hasn't done squat since early 2005.

I'm sure some who haven't paid close attention take mis-statements like this as truth. But those of us who both understand your bias against CW and actually remember games and can look up stats take this for what it is...biased bs.

 

[The Moz]

If its Bruised Ribs and thats all -- Caddy might miss a week - might not.

This injury depends more on Pain tolerance than anyhting else. T. Henry played all season with I think CRACKED ribs and had one of his best seasons. If Caddy is a true " warrior " and can play through pain I wuld expect him week 3 - week 5 latest. His schedule is sweet down the stretch.

 

[garyd]

LOL at his teammates referring to him as "Lac"....now he has a nickname for his nickname

 

[Bender]

Let's take the hypothetical that Cadillac struggles with this for a while (hopefully it's not the case, though).

Who's the beneficiary? On the surface, it's be Michael Pittman, but Earnest Graham also got carries yesterday when Caddy went out.

Gruden already knows what he has in Pittman, and it's not great. Pittman is a solid receiving back and a below average runner...is there a chance we could see Graham get an extended look in the backfield?

Is he the guy to stash away in case Caddy has probelms in the future?

 

[gump]

Graham looked very average, then fumbled.

If Caddy is out, I expect a RBBC...maybe even a Ken Darby sighting from the practice squad.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

From Sportsline, take it or leave it:

Cadillac Williams, RB TBNews: Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden said Monday that RB Cadillac Williams had a rib injury suffered in Week 1's game at Seattle, and that he's expected to be questionable for Week 2 vs. New Orleans.Analysis: Williams left Week 1 with 12 carries for 60 yards, including a long of 20, and two receptions for 14 yards. Not bad totals. Williams was replaced by Michael Pittman in the backfield, but owners should be careful about starting him at this point even though the Saints allowed a ton of rushing yards in Week 1.

 

[largentslovechild]

Cadillac and Nick Goings can start a support group.

Maybe even have picture ID cards n' everything.

"Free coffee and donuts at the community center, Thursday nights. Be on time and ready to share."

 

[Sputnikv8]

Fragile Caddy?

(It was a great, clean hit by Tatupu btw.)

 

[BackfromtheDead]

http://www.tbo.com is reporting he is out week 2 with a rib injury.

 

[gheemony]

Remember he picked up some cheap yards at the end of the first half when Seattle was in prevent trying to stop TB from getting into FG range. His stats for the day are slightly inflated. Not that is matters if he's nicked up. Again.

 

[Steelnation]

Wasn't Caddy part of the almighty Otis's all Value team???

This is getting old.If people are going to be pulled out and laughed at every time they make a bad prediction, I'm going to start replying to these posts with everything stupid the poster's ever said.Predictions, no matter how well the logic/reasoning is thought out, can be wrong. Let's not discourage open discussion.

Quit I got burned by the Caddy Kool Aid last year, I have been in other posts and have given my opinion of Caddy, the guy is a bum.....Everyone is waiting for him to live up to his pontential. Come talk too me when he finally lives up to it.Until then RELAX, I am not "discouraging open discussion" at all fella

 

[Keys Myaths]

Wasn't Caddy part of the almighty Otis's all Value team???

This is getting old.If people are going to be pulled out and laughed at every time they make a bad prediction, I'm going to start replying to these posts with everything stupid the poster's ever said.Predictions, no matter how well the logic/reasoning is thought out, can be wrong. Let's not discourage open discussion.

Quit I got burned by the Caddy Kool Aid last year, I have been in other posts and have given my opinion of Caddy, the guy is a bum.....Everyone is waiting for him to live up to his pontential. Come talk too me when he finally lives up to it.Until then RELAX, I am not "discouraging open discussion" at all fella

Calling out another poster for a "bad prediction" is poor form, no matter how you want to spin it.Nobody's crying. But, it needs to be pointed out that people like you can be safely ignored.HTH

 

[thaas]

http://www.tbo.com is reporting he is out week 2 with a rib injury.

Accodring to CBSCadillac Williams, RB TB

News: Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden said Monday that RB Cadillac Williams had a rib injury suffered in Week 1's game at Seattle, and that he's expected to be questionable for Week 2 vs. New Orleans.

 

[Steelnation]

Wasn't Caddy part of the almighty Otis's all Value team???

This is getting old.If people are going to be pulled out and laughed at every time they make a bad prediction, I'm going to start replying to these posts with everything stupid the poster's ever said.Predictions, no matter how well the logic/reasoning is thought out, can be wrong. Let's not discourage open discussion.

Quit I got burned by the Caddy Kool Aid last year, I have been in other posts and have given my opinion of Caddy, the guy is a bum.....Everyone is waiting for him to live up to his pontential. Come talk too me when he finally lives up to it.Until then RELAX, I am not "discouraging open discussion" at all fella

Calling out another poster for a "bad prediction" is poor form, no matter how you want to spin it.Nobody's crying. But, it needs to be pointed out that people like you can be safely ignored.HTH

Feel free to ignore me then

 

[CrossEyed]

http://www.tbo.com is reporting he is out week 2 with a rib injury.

Accodring to CBSCadillac Williams, RB TB

News: Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden said Monday that RB Cadillac Williams had a rib injury suffered in Week 1's game at Seattle, and that he's expected to be questionable for Week 2 vs. New Orleans.

According to tboWith Cadillac Williams bruised ribs sidelining him indefinitely, the Bucs will prepare this week without him.

Coach Jon Gruden said they’ll have to practice as if Williams won’t play Sunday.

“Unfortunately, we’re good at one thing on offense - that’s contingency plans,” Gruden said.

Michael Pittman and Earnest Graham will get more work in Williams’ place and there’s a possibility draft pick Kenneth Darby gets bumped up from the practice squad.

“We’ll plan for the other guys to play a big role,” Gruden said.

 

[Marc Levin]

FWIW, Caddy could still very easily qualify for Otis' all-value team.

If the guy plays the last ten games of the season and plays well, noone will care that he had a poor first three weeks except the guy who traded him away for less than his true value. I see Caddy, esp. a Caddy slowed by injury the next few weeks, as a GREAT buy-low candidate.

The reasons I preferred Brown to Williams for the phins on draft day are the same reasons he is now a good buy-low. He's often dinged, can't stay healthy, yet is potentially explosive in the games in which he is healthy.

Regardless, on the pissing match, it is pointless. Week one is no reason to blast someone's preseason "value play" call, esp. when injuries are unpredictable.

 

[Texican]

Sep 10 In his Monday morning press conference, Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden said Williams (bruised ribs) is questionable for Sunday's game against the Saints, the Tampa Tribune reports.

Recommendation: Williams left Sunday's opener at Seattle early in the third quarter with the injury. To that point, Williams had gained 60 yards in 12 carries, but 29 of those yards came in two garbage-time carries at the end of the first half, so Williams hadn't been very effective before he went down. He also caught two passes for 14 yards (two targets), but fumbled the ball away on his first reception. Williams will be limited in practice this week, and Michael Pittman and Earnest Graham will both get more work in Williams' place, with a starter likely not being named until Friday.

 

[johntorn]

Otis your avatar is as disturbing as the hit Caddy took yesterday!

 

[code]

(what happened to last nights thread on this?)

 

[Keys Myaths]

Regardless, on the pissing match, it is pointless. Week one is no reason to blast someone's preseason "value play" call, esp. when injuries are unpredictable.

BTW--when Levin and I agree on something, there has to be something to it.Either that, or the apocalypse is upon us.