Can a team challenge to have a score count AGAINST? (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Cleveland just tackled MJD on the 1 inch line when they should have let him in. It's possible he got in. While the player made a mistake on the field, is it possible for Cleveland to challenge that he DID score in order to fix that and get the ball back?

 

[Das Boot]

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[AcousticNut]

I don't see why they couldn't. It would just be challenging the spot on the field.

 

[njherdfan]

I don't see why they couldn't. It would just be challenging the spot on the field.

That's what I was thinking as well.

 

[Das Boot]

It's definitely an interesting question... it's not just challenging the spot, it's challenging a TD as the resultant new spot.

 

[gianmarco]

It's definitely an interesting question... it's not just challenging the spot, it's challenging a TD as the resultant new spot.

Right....and in this situation I would have definitely wanted to if I'm a coach. I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up by the announcers and wasn't even considered.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

It's definitely an interesting question... it's not just challenging the spot, it's challenging a TD as the resultant new spot.

Right....and in this situation I would have definitely wanted to if I'm a coach. I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up by the announcers and wasn't even considered.

The Browns still had a chance of holding the Jaguars to a tying FG. They shouldn't have even considered just conceding the go-ahead TD.

 

[Das Boot]

It's definitely an interesting question... it's not just challenging the spot, it's challenging a TD as the resultant new spot.

Right....and in this situation I would have definitely wanted to if I'm a coach. I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up by the announcers and wasn't even considered.

The Browns still had a chance of holding the Jaguars to a tying FG. They shouldn't have even considered just conceding the go-ahead TD.

There will be differing opinions on whether to do it or not, but it should have been considered.Coaches should know the stats on 1st and goal with less than a yard... I'm guessing a TD is 90%+ likely in such situations.Coaches also know how likely or not their D is to be able to hold for 3 goal line stands and can then make a decision based on those 2 pieces of info.

 

[The Jerk]

Last year in Week 4, Mike McCarthy challenged a play in order to choose to take a safety rather than a turnover. On the field, the play was ruled a sack/fumble by Jared Allen, recovered by the Vikings at the Packer 2-yard line or so. McCarthy saw that Rodgers' knee was down before the fumble. However, the knee was down in the end zone.

I realize it's not the same thing as the Cleveland/Jacksonville game, but definitely a coach CAN challenge to have a score count against his team -- in this case, it was a safety.

Edited to add that McCarthy won his challenge, so Minnesota was awarded the safety.

 

[gianmarco]

It's definitely an interesting question... it's not just challenging the spot, it's challenging a TD as the resultant new spot.

Right....and in this situation I would have definitely wanted to if I'm a coach. I'm a little surprised this wasn't brought up by the announcers and wasn't even considered.

The Browns still had a chance of holding the Jaguars to a tying FG. They shouldn't have even considered just conceding the go-ahead TD.

There will be differing opinions on whether to do it or not, but it should have been considered.Coaches should know the stats on 1st and goal with less than a yard... I'm guessing a TD is 90%+ likely in such situations.Coaches also know how likely or not their D is to be able to hold for 3 goal line stands and can then make a decision based on those 2 pieces of info.

Exactly, especially with one of the best goal line runners in the game in MJD and precious time ticking away if you can't stop them, which is incredibly likely. Let them score right away and you have a full 2 minutes to drive for the win. But, whether or not it's the right decision isn't what I'm trying to discuss here. IF Cleveland felt the same way, can they even challenge that he crossed the goal line which is actually putting points against them?

 

[gianmarco]

Last year in Week 4, Mike McCarthy challenged a play in order to choose to take a safety rather than a turnover. On the field, the play was ruled a sack/fumble by Jared Allen, recovered by the Vikings at the Packer 2-yard line or so. McCarthy saw that Rodgers' knee was down before the fumble. However, the knee was down in the end zone.I realize it's not the same thing as the Cleveland/Jacksonville game, but definitely a coach CAN challenge to have a score count against his team -- in this case, it was a safety.Edited to add that McCarthy won his challenge, so Minnesota was awarded the safety.

Ah, that's great. I didn't even realize that. In that case, then that's definitely something that Cleveland should have considered, IMO.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I still maintain that a team with a 3 point lead should never concede a TD, but it's really a moot point since the Browns were out of time-outs and thus couldn't challenge.