Can someone explain this to me (1 Viewer)

[CBower4545]

I was looking at the FBG player rankings. How come these young talented running backs are said to have more value in redraft then in dynasty.

redraft AVG dynasty AVG

Addai 9.6 16.2

Maroney 13.0 13.8

MJD 18.3 18.8

Benson 31.5 35.0

Also Gore drops from 4th redraft to 5th in dynasty.

While others value increases over the long rung.

Bush 12.8 5.6

D. Williams 54.2 27.2

C. Williams 37.8 29.2

K. Jones 59.4 47.2

Am I missing something? Why is their short term value greater then their long term value of the first group? I mean wouldn't the assumption be young, up and coming players would have more dynasty value then redraft value regardless of where you rank them individually. Why does the second group increase so much in dynasty?Any insights?

 

[hitman2]

I looked at RB's in isolation.

Addai drops from 8 (redraft) to 11 (dynasty) because of AP, Bush, Maroney. My guess here is that people think Addai won't do TOO MUCH more than he did last year where these other guys have more upside to bust out.

Maroney - Stayed at #10

MJD - Stayed at #15

Benson - Drops from 18 to 21 because of AP, Lynch and D.Williams. Again, these guys have more potential ?

Gore drops from 4 to 6 because of Bush and Westbrook. Bush makes sense. Westy doesn't. My guess here is someone thinks Gore might not last due to the previous injuries?

Bush - Value increases with more experience and the departure of Deuce (at some point)?

D. Williams - Value increases with more playing time and experience?

C. Williams - Value increases as the team around him gets better?

K. Jones - Value increases as the injury goes away?

 

[-OZ-]

Some of it has to do with current situation as the lead back vs. people's expectations that they will disapoint and another back will be brought in.

MJD is the only one that I wouldn't drop, and the drop isn't significant anyway.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I was looking at the FBG player rankings. How come these young talented running backs are said to have more value in redraft then in dynasty.

redraft AVG dynasty AVG

Addai 9.6 16.2

Maroney 13.0 13.8

MJD 18.3 18.8

Benson 31.5 35.0

Also Gore drops from 4th redraft to 5th in dynasty.

While others value increases over the long rung.

Bush 12.8 5.6

D. Williams 54.2 27.2

C. Williams 37.8 29.2

K. Jones 59.4 47.2

Am I missing something? Why is their short term value greater then their long term value of the first group? I mean wouldn't the assumption be young, up and coming players would have more dynasty value then redraft value regardless of where you rank them individually. Why does the second group increase so much in dynasty?Any insights?

As always, you want to compare apples to apples. Many more people submit redraft rankings than overall rankings. Here is the page with the overall rankings excluding all those who did not submit dynasty rankings.
redraftAVG dynastyAVG adjredraftAddai 9.6 16.2 12.6Maroney 13.0 13.8 14.6MJD 18.3 18.8 17.6Benson 31.5 35.0 30.2With Maroney, this adjustment helps to explain what's going on. The people that ranked Maroney "low" in dynasty did not like him much, as evidenced by his even lower adjredraft rank (including only those five experts who submitted dynasty rankings). But those five still like him better in dynasty, beacuse he's young.Addai looks to be in a similar boat. Those rankers didn't like him as much as the whole group of experts, and probably are ranking him so high because of situation, not talent.

Will Grant and Aaron Rudnicki have Benson a bit higher in redraft than in dynasty. This is probably similar to the Addai situation, where they are only ranking him so high because he should get a ton of carries this year. And since both experts have ties to Chicago, they've probably spent a bit of time thinking about this and are not bullish on Benson's future prospects.

Jones-Drew drops only slightly in going from adjredraft to dynastyAVG, and that's because of Peyton Manning. The experts feel Manning's stability at the QB position is more valuable in dynasty, which seems reasonable enough to me. Outside of that, MJD does not fall.

The Gore-Westbrook debate is puzzling to me, though. While there's only a marginal change in rankings, Sig Bloom and Will Grant both rank Gore ahead of Westbrook in redraft but Westbrook ahead of Gore in dynasty. I find that a bit surprising, though not implausible.

Your other group seems more intuitive. Bush and Kevin Jones are considered elite talents, but both have question marks for the 2007 season, and I'd suspect a majority of experts think the 2008 Bush (and certainly the 2008 Jones) will outperform the 2007 version(s). The same goes for DeAngelo Williams, who is still in an unclear situation but was considered a future star just a year ago. Cadillac Williams's average adjustd redraft ranking (only including those five staffers) is 33.8, a bit closer to his dynasty prospects. Williams moves ahead of Benson, Owens and Harrison while falling behind Marshawn Lynch when we shift from redraft to dynasty, which makes some sense.

 

[CBower4545]

Thanks guys!

After reading the responses I feel better about it. I just had a "huh" moment thinking of it in a singular perspective, "if they like this goy this much in redraft why would they be liked less in dynasty". It seems to make more sense as you put it all together.