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Card player suspended thru 2020 for gambling (1 Viewer)

From the headline I was :confused:  because card players gamble all the time.  Figured out it was a "Cards" player.  :doh:

 
I really don't see what the big deal is.  He is on IR and had no insider information. 
If other gamblers knew about his bets, then they might have assumed that he had inside information, and they could have subsequently placed large bets that might have caused the point spread to move.

 
Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone would have said anything to me when I first started here that sort of thing was frowned upon..

 
This isn't the first time Shaw has come under scrutiny. In August 2014 while he was a member of the USC football program - shortly after being named a team captain as a senior - dude admitted to lying about injuring his ankles jumping into a swimming pool to save his drowning nephew. Shaw later revealed that the true nature of his injury resulted from jumping off a balcony in Los Angeles.
He just dumb. Feels like a harmless act to me. It's unfortunate, but dudes have done worse stuff than that and still got to play in the NFL. I bet you he gets back in. Reminds me of being young and making dumb decisions myself.

 
If other gamblers knew about his bets, then they might have assumed that he had inside information, and they could have subsequently placed large bets that might have caused the point spread to move.
holy #### is this how gambling works? (seriously though, despite the fact it's kinda silly and not feasible by any means - what's bad about any of this that would prompt the NFL to step in?)

 
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players/coaches are the worst sports betters ever.  Look at coaches/ex-players on these shows where they give picks.  They are awful.  The betting lines are smarter than them, and basically everybody else.  

Less than 1% of betters win longterm.  That includes those who play/coach the game.

Unless he was betting on/against his own team who cares.   

 
Don't tell that to the gambling thead.

Of fine, upstanding citizens.

About their habit. 

I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
i think most sports betters will admit they are losers overall.  it makes the games more fun and when you win it feels great, but none of us are winning overall if we bet a lot.

 
that 1% thing is probably true, and everyone knows that, but the key word is "long term." you gotta have a long-term mindset to win long term: budget your income for discretionary funds, establish a unit size as a percentage of your bankroll, harbor some personal discipline, utilize as many outs as you can to line shop, and only buy the lines that offer the best expected value it's simple

 
that 1% thing is probably true, and everyone knows that, but the key word is "long term." you gotta have a long-term mindset to win long term: budget your income for discretionary funds, establish a unit size as a percentage of your bankroll, harbor some personal discipline, utilize as many outs as you can to line shop, and only buy the lines that offer the best expected value it's simple
you'll still lose long term. sorry.

 
ChainsawU said:
[scooter] said:
If other gamblers knew about his bets, then they might have assumed that he had inside information, and they could have subsequently placed large bets that might have caused the point spread to move.
holy #### is this how gambling works? (seriously though, despite the fact it's kinda silly and not feasible by any means - what's bad about any of this that would prompt the NFL to step in?)
Yes, this is how gambling (sometimes) works. Professional gamblers are always looking for an edge, and sometimes they'll make massive bets based on inside information, and it can actually cause the betting line to move.

The NFL is coming down hard on Shaw because they don't want the public to even think that the integrity of the game has been compromised. Notice that the NFL was quick to claim that Shaw didn't use any inside information. That claim was probably a bunch of hogwash, but they had to say it to calm the concerns of gamblers.

This is similar to what happened with Pete Rose. He may not have thrown any games, but other gamblers knew that when he bet big on the Reds, then they should do the same.

 
ChainsawU said:
He just dumb. Feels like a harmless act to me. It's unfortunate, but dudes have done worse stuff than that and still got to play in the NFL. I bet you he gets back in. Reminds me of being young and making dumb decisions myself.
It wasn't until you posted that quote that I remembered it was the same guy who faked saving his nephew at a pool, and said that's how he broke his ankles. 5 years later and he still hasn't learned very much.

 
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