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Or, has he simply been threatening retirement? I've seen/read different interpretations and trying to get to the bottom line of this. I don't care if he's effectively retired. Just want to know, officially, if he is indeed done and if there's a link that definitively states this somewhere.

Google has not been my friend.

 
I'm pretty sure that he HAS NOT filed official retirement papers. Ya gotta figure there'd be a story on it if it happened.

-QG

 
He will inevitably give up like Chad Ocho Cinco and report, at $15M/year theres no way he's not the starting QB

 
Cincinnati placed Palmer on the Reserve/Did Not Report list, so he does not count against the team's roster. Tomorrow is the first day that teams can start fining players for not reporting, although I'm not sure if they can fine a player who has been formally placed on the "Reserve" list.

Also, Cincinnati is at least $35 million under the salary cap. They MUST spend this money as per the new CBA. If they don't sign enough players, they could end up in a situation where they're forced to pay Palmer's salary just to reach the salary cap minimums.

 
Cincinnati placed Palmer on the Reserve/Did Not Report list, so he does not count against the team's roster. Tomorrow is the first day that teams can start fining players for not reporting, although I'm not sure if they can fine a player who has been formally placed on the "Reserve" list.Also, Cincinnati is at least $35 million under the salary cap. They MUST spend this money as per the new CBA. If they don't sign enough players, they could end up in a situation where they're forced to pay Palmer's salary just to reach the salary cap minimums.
There is no minimum until 2013.
 
He will inevitably give up like Chad Ocho Cinco and report, at $15M/year theres no way he's not the starting QB
:lmao:Against all odds, I've been thinking the same thing. There's always a whole lot of posturing going on, and he's got an agent looking for a paycheck.
 
A voice said to Mike Brown:

"Build an indoor practice facility, hire a GM, hire a scouting department, buy players new towels for the shower, get an e-mail account, lower the beer prices for fans and he will come."

 
'knowledge dropper said:
A voice said to Mike Brown:"Build an indoor practice facility, hire a GM, hire a scouting department, buy players new towels for the shower, get an e-mail account, lower the beer prices for fans and he will come."
And then Mike Brown instantly ignored that voice and insisted they are "commited to winning"
 
'Truman said:
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Cincinnati placed Palmer on the Reserve/Did Not Report list, so he does not count against the team's roster. Tomorrow is the first day that teams can start fining players for not reporting, although I'm not sure if they can fine a player who has been formally placed on the "Reserve" list.

Also, Cincinnati is at least $35 million under the salary cap. They MUST spend this money as per the new CBA. If they don't sign enough players, they could end up in a situation where they're forced to pay Palmer's salary just to reach the salary cap minimums.
There is no minimum until 2013.
Yes and no. The NFL has promised to spend 99% of the overall salary cap in 2011, but individual teams will not be penalized if they fail to spend the minimum amount. Any leftover money will be redistributed to existing players.link

One thing that isn't made clear is whether the redistribution will be paid by individual owners or by the NFL itself. Could Mike Brown cut $35 million from his cap and then get the NFL to pay for it?

 
One thing that isn't made clear is whether the redistribution will be paid by individual owners or by the NFL itself. Could Mike Brown cut $35 million from his cap and then get the NFL to pay for it?
While he's horrible as an owner, Mikey's pretty adroit at contract law it seems. I'm sure that the answer is probably "yes". I mean the guy actually voted "yes" for a CBA!-QG
 
'Truman said:
%26%2339%3B timestamp='1312439048' post='13391297']

Cincinnati placed Palmer on the Reserve/Did Not Report list, so he does not count against the team's roster. Tomorrow is the first day that teams can start fining players for not reporting, although I'm not sure if they can fine a player who has been formally placed on the "Reserve" list.

Also, Cincinnati is at least $35 million under the salary cap. They MUST spend this money as per the new CBA. If they don't sign enough players, they could end up in a situation where they're forced to pay Palmer's salary just to reach the salary cap minimums.
There is no minimum until 2013.
Yes and no. The NFL has promised to spend 99% of the overall salary cap in 2011, but individual teams will not be penalized if they fail to spend the minimum amount. Any leftover money will be redistributed to existing players.link

One thing that isn't made clear is whether the redistribution will be paid by individual owners or by the NFL itself. Could Mike Brown cut $35 million from his cap and then get the NFL to pay for it?
The cap and floor actually have nothing to do with the 99% spend - the deal for 2011 and 2012 is that the NFL teams must collectively spend at least 99% of the cap in cash - but that includes upfront money paid in signing bonuses (like Charles Johnson and DeAngelo Williams), not the individual team's cap figures. In essence, Mike Brown/CIN, K.C., and other low-salary teams can go as low below the cap during 2011 and 2012 as they like with no penalty. Then in 2013 all teams must spend at least 89% of the cap on their franchises' payrolls, instituting a hard "floor" as well as a hard cap that year.

This is why CIN signed Cedric Benson to a one-year deal, let Ochocinco walk, etc. They are going to be the lowest payroll in the NFL for the next two seasons, count on it, milking the franchise for as much cash as Brown can stash.

 
One thing that isn't made clear is whether the redistribution will be paid by individual owners or by the NFL itself. Could Mike Brown cut $35 million from his cap and then get the NFL to pay for it?
While he's horrible as an owner, Mikey's pretty adroit at contract law it seems. I'm sure that the answer is probably "yes". I mean the guy actually voted "yes" for a CBA!-QG
Yes, Brown can be as low below the cap as he likes with no penalty, see my post #14. I know it's hard to believe, but the way the math works out on the 99% spend (of the total cash spent by all 32 teams each year), the Bengals can be WAY WAY below the cap for the next two years and the league will still hit the 99% average. I suspect that Brown will sell the team prior to the 2013 season when the hard floor comes in - after he's milked 40-50 million out for his retirement. :2cents:
 
I know it's hard to believe, but the way the math works out on the 99% spend (of the total cash spent by all 32 teams each year), the Bengals can be WAY WAY below the cap for the next two years and the league will still hit the 99% average.
So what happens if the league ends up at 98%? Who is responsible for redistribution of the 1%? Does it come from just the owners who were under the cap? Or would every team pay an equal share?
 
I know it's hard to believe, but the way the math works out on the 99% spend (of the total cash spent by all 32 teams each year), the Bengals can be WAY WAY below the cap for the next two years and the league will still hit the 99% average.
So what happens if the league ends up at 98%? Who is responsible for redistribution of the 1%? Does it come from just the owners who were under the cap? Or would every team pay an equal share?
My understanding is that in that unlikely instance, the league itself would make up the difference out of league revenues (so all 32 owners would take a slight hit in revenues, if I got those nuances correct). But with the way Jerry Richardson has handed out signing bonuses this year (for example), the league should hit the 99% total cash spend of the salary cap requirement easily.
 
Rick Reilly column

If I'm Palmer, I watch the signing wires like a hawk. As soon as the Bengals climb to within $11.5 million of the hard salary cap, I beeline it to Cincinnati and sign. That would force Brown to either cut five or six players to be able to pay me -- or sign my freedom papers.
Sadly, I think the Bengals are so far under the cap that Palmer's salary wouldn't affect the cap either way.
 
Rick Reilly column

If I'm Palmer, I watch the signing wires like a hawk. As soon as the Bengals climb to within $11.5 million of the hard salary cap, I beeline it to Cincinnati and sign. That would force Brown to either cut five or six players to be able to pay me -- or sign my freedom papers.
Sadly, I think the Bengals are so far under the cap that Palmer's salary wouldn't affect the cap either way.
:lmao: Carson Palmer is gonna be like 90 years old "As soon as the Bengals climb to within $11.5 million of the hard salary cap". President Kuchinich will get reelected before this happens.-QG

 
Given his play recently, I think Carson retired a few years ago
Ha ha. But seriously, he was the #13 fantasy QB last season and had a higher passer rating than Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez, or Kevin Kolb, despite playing with arguably the worst supporting cast in the NFL.
 
Given his play recently, I think Carson retired a few years ago
Ha ha. But seriously, he was the #13 fantasy QB last season and had a higher passer rating than Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez, or Kevin Kolb, despite playing with arguably the worst supporting cast in the NFL.
that would be quite an argument. whitworth is a universally lauded lt. pff rated him the 2nd best pass blocker for his position. then they went ahead and rated guard bobbie williams the best pass blocker at his position. ocho, TO, shipley, gresham, benson dont seem near the worst combo either.carson's skills clearly diminished over the last few years. its a shame mike brown wasnt willing to ship him for a 2nd to some team desperate to overpay for an overrated primadonna weirdo (watch hard knocks for his eccentrics)

 
Any chance Palmer shows up to Bengals camp sometime over the next week?

Seems like it would give him a decent chance to be traded. He still hasn't filed for retirement, so it seems like getting traded is his ultimate goal.

 
Any chance Palmer shows up to Bengals camp sometime over the next week? Seems like it would give him a decent chance to be traded. He still hasn't filed for retirement, so it seems like getting traded is his ultimate goal.
They won't trade him. They'll just pay him. He'd be deactivated for every game, since he doesn't know the new play book.It doesn't matter what Carson's goal is at this point. Mikey won't trade him.-QG
 

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