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CB Nate Clements to 49ers for 8rs/$80MM (1 Viewer)

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Word is out that SF has signed clements to a 23 million dollar deal

Clements signed by San Francisco

Friday, March 2, 2007 at 07:35:32 PT - Printer-friendly version

Source: 49erswebzone.com

According to Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com, free agent Nate Clements has been signed or will soon sign with the San Francisco 49ers. The report comes from Thomas Sorrell.

Email from Geoff Hobson:

Clements is gone to san fran for $23 M to sign - a deal the Bengals could have done if they cut the few guys who do play defense.

 
Please football Gods, let this be true. I can't even remember the last time we had serviceable corners.

 
Yeah, how long ago was that? 1998? It seems like forever ago, man! :thumbup:

:funkychicken:

Yes, and tru dat on the safety comment.

 
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The 49ers have tons to spend, so don't count them out of the Adalius Thomas derby yet. Although yesterday, I did read that the 49ers weren't as hot to trot for Thomas as the rumors indicated.

 
Trap Play said:
The 49ers have tons to spend, so don't count them out of the Adalius Thomas derby yet. Although yesterday, I did read that the 49ers weren't as hot to trot for Thomas as the rumors indicated.
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They have tons to spend but so do the Patriots. Especially if Dillon gets released as predicted later today. If push comes to shove, New England could probably match whatever San Fran can now offer Adalius. All things being equal, it seems like it will come down to whether he wants to play for one team or the other.
 
Walt Harris was a Pro-Bowl alternate this year. confused1.gif
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The guy played his ### off, no doubt, but now he's a 3rd CB behind Clements and Spencer, and I like him much better playing nickel.
 
Unless this is a 3 year deal I seriously doubt this. If SF has indeed signed him, the numbers will be a lot bigger than that. In fact, I could see it being $23M in just guaranteed money actually.

Edit: In fact, the way the wording is, that's exactly what it sounds like. "$23 M to sign"

 
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Someone on the Bills message board said that they were announcing on Sportscenter someone being signed to the largest contract ever at that position. I can only think that it has to be Clements. If so, good luck with that Niners. Clements is good, but he's not THAT kind of money good. That makes two former Buffalo players grossly overpaid by the Niners.

Edit: NM. :thumbup: Someone else said that it was Lorenzo Neal and that it was already announced yesterday.

 
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The dearth of CB talent in the FA market, and San Fran's desparate need of help at that position is going to force them to overpay. I don't think that's really that big of a surprise.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Someone on the Bills message board said that they were announcing on Sportscenter someone being signed to the largest contract ever at that position. I can only think that it has to be Clements. If so, good luck with that Niners. Clements is good, but he's not THAT kind of money good. That makes two former Buffalo players grossly overpaid by the Niners.Edit: NM. :goodposting: Someone else said that it was Lorenzo Neal and that it was already announced yesterday.
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Jonas Jennings did pretty damn good last year blocking for Gore. How many yards willis have? If you want to know how many Gore had, see the sig.
 
derek19 said:
GroveDiesel said:
Someone on the Bills message board said that they were announcing on Sportscenter someone being signed to the largest contract ever at that position. I can only think that it has to be Clements. If so, good luck with that Niners. Clements is good, but he's not THAT kind of money good. That makes two former Buffalo players grossly overpaid by the Niners.Edit: NM. :shrug: Someone else said that it was Lorenzo Neal and that it was already announced yesterday.
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Jonas Jennings did pretty damn good last year blocking for Gore. How many yards willis have? If you want to know how many Gore had, see the sig.
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He also missed a ton of time in 2005. And he'll probably miss a bunch of time going forward. Like I said, good luck with that. I'll take Jason Peters over Jonas Jennings every single day too.
 
derek19 said:
GroveDiesel said:
Someone on the Bills message board said that they were announcing on Sportscenter someone being signed to the largest contract ever at that position. I can only think that it has to be Clements. If so, good luck with that Niners. Clements is good, but he's not THAT kind of money good. That makes two former Buffalo players grossly overpaid by the Niners.

Edit: NM. :bag: Someone else said that it was Lorenzo Neal and that it was already announced yesterday.
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Jonas Jennings did pretty damn good last year blocking for Gore. How many yards willis have? If you want to know how many Gore had, see the sig.
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You are kidding right? It doesn't change the fact that they over spent for Jonas and it looks like they are overspending for Nate.

From the 49ers site:

2006 SEASON UPDATE:

• Jennings was slowed by injuries, forcing him to be inactive for three games. A high ankle sprain kept him sidelined against St. Louis (9-17), a wrist injury kept him out against San Diego (10-15) and he was inactive against Denver (12-31) because of a dislocated shoulder. None of the injuries kept him out for more than one game.

• He was named one of five permanent team captains prior to the Oakland game (10-8), along with Alex Smith, Walt Harris, Bryant Young, and Keith Lewis.

• Jennings was awarded a game ball by Head Coach Mike Nolan, along with the entire offensive line, for their performance against Detroit (11-12) in which the offense racked up 198 rushing yards.

• His blocking helped Frank Gore set the single-season record for rushing yards.

CAREER HIGHLIGHTS:

2005: (With San Francisco)

• Started in first three games of season before shoulder injury forced him inactive five games.

• Placed on injured reserve (11-9) after undergoing shoulder surgery.

• Started at right tackle in season opener vs. St. Louis (9-11) and helped team notch three offensive touchdowns in win.

• Started game at left tackle before being replaced by Patrick Estes in second quarter after taking hit to larynx at Philadelphia (9-18).

• Started at left tackle vs. Dallas (9-25) and helped offense rush for 124 yards, surpassing 100-yard mark for first time of season.

• Inactive at Arizona in Mexico City (10-2) with shoulder injury that was aggravated week before against Cowboys.

• Inactive vs. Indianapolis (10-9), at Washington (10-23), vs. Tampa Bay (10-30) and New York Giants (11-6) due to shoulder injury.

• Underwent surgery to repair torn labrum and placed on injured reserve (11-9).
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Nate is a good CB. He isn't a franchise CB. Take a look at the tape of Chris Chambers smoking him in the week 13 game on Dec. 4 2005. (15 Rec, 238 yds 1 TD ) And that is what you get with Clemments. Some days he looks like amateur hour...some weeks he looks like just your average starter. How many pro bowls has he made?And you want to pay him record contract money? Have at it.

 
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On The Rocks said:
derek19 said:
GroveDiesel said:
Someone on the Bills message board said that they were announcing on Sportscenter someone being signed to the largest contract ever at that position. I can only think that it has to be Clements. If so, good luck with that Niners. Clements is good, but he's not THAT kind of money good. That makes two former Buffalo players grossly overpaid by the Niners.

Edit: NM. :shrug: Someone else said that it was Lorenzo Neal and that it was already announced yesterday.
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Jonas Jennings did pretty damn good last year blocking for Gore. How many yards willis have? If you want to know how many Gore had, see the sig.
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You are kidding right? It doesn't change the fact that they over spent for Jonas and it looks like they are overspending for Nate.

From the 49ers site:

2006 SEASON UPDATE:

• Jennings was slowed by injuries, forcing him to be inactive for three games. A high ankle sprain kept him sidelined against St. Louis (9-17), a wrist injury kept him out against San Diego (10-15) and he was inactive against Denver (12-31) because of a dislocated shoulder. None of the injuries kept him out for more than one game.

• He was named one of five permanent team captains prior to the Oakland game (10-8), along with Alex Smith, Walt Harris, Bryant Young, and Keith Lewis.

• Jennings was awarded a game ball by Head Coach Mike Nolan, along with the entire offensive line, for their performance against Detroit (11-12) in which the offense racked up 198 rushing yards.

• His blocking helped Frank Gore set the single-season record for rushing yards.

CAREER HIGHLIGHTS:

2005: (With San Francisco)

• Started in first three games of season before shoulder injury forced him inactive five games.

• Placed on injured reserve (11-9) after undergoing shoulder surgery.

• Started at right tackle in season opener vs. St. Louis (9-11) and helped team notch three offensive touchdowns in win.

• Started game at left tackle before being replaced by Patrick Estes in second quarter after taking hit to larynx at Philadelphia (9-18).

• Started at left tackle vs. Dallas (9-25) and helped offense rush for 124 yards, surpassing 100-yard mark for first time of season.

• Inactive at Arizona in Mexico City (10-2) with shoulder injury that was aggravated week before against Cowboys.

• Inactive vs. Indianapolis (10-9), at Washington (10-23), vs. Tampa Bay (10-30) and New York Giants (11-6) due to shoulder injury.

• Underwent surgery to repair torn labrum and placed on injured reserve (11-9).
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Nate is a good CB. He isn't a franchise CB. Take a look at the tape of Chris Chambers smoking him in the week 13 game on Dec. 4 2005. (15 Rec, 238 yds 1 TD ) And that is what you get with Clemments. Some days he looks like amateur hour...some weeks he looks like just your average starter. How many pro bowls has he made?And you want to pay him record contract money? Have at it.
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Then there's that pass that he tried to intercept instead of batting it down on 4th down at the end of the Jacksonville game a few years ago. :bag: He's done that a couple of times.
 
Clements is a top-5 CB, but he doesn't always play like it.

Everybody knew he was going to cash in big this summer. Teams have boatloads of money to spend these days so we can't really compare these contracts to anything that happened in the past as the cap has gone up a lot since Champ Bailey signed his deal.

I think he'll be a good signing for the 49ers, but I'm also happy that the Bills decided not to break the bank for him. If anything, they should have locked him up to a long term deal 2 years ago.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Then there's that pass that he tried to intercept instead of batting it down on 4th down at the end of the Jacksonville game a few years ago. :lmao: He's done that a couple of times.
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that was the season opener in 2004! Friggin' Ernest Wilford! :lmao: And in hindsight...if they had won that game would have been playoff bound.(maybe that was a good play because then maybe Monkey Boy Mularky might still be the coach!) :goodposting:
 
aaronr28 said:
Clements is a top-5 CB, but he doesn't always play like it.Everybody knew he was going to cash in big this summer. Teams have boatloads of money to spend these days so we can't really compare these contracts to anything that happened in the past as the cap has gone up a lot since Champ Bailey signed his deal.I think he'll be a good signing for the 49ers, but I'm also happy that the Bills decided not to break the bank for him. If anything, they should have locked him up to a long term deal 2 years ago.
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i agree with this...but 2005 was his worst year as a pro....and i think looking back at it then i might have been pissed had he been signed long term then. but it certainly would have mad mors sense dollar wise at that point.
 
Warpig said:
Holy ####! :eek: 23M to sign?!?! What the hell is Samuel gonna want now?!?! :moneybag:
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Obviously that's still a rumor right now. In fact, there hasn't been a single actual move officially announced yet. PFT was speculating that teams were told by the league office not to announce deals right away due to the tampering rules. It's common knowledge that the league looks the other way on the tampering rules but since PFT and a few journalists have been making an issue of it recently, the speculation is that the NFL advised teams not to announce deals immediately so as to not fan that flame.
 
Clements reminds me of Chris McAllister. When he is focused he can be one of the best corners in the league. He seems to lose focus or just not show up for some games though. Baltimore gave McAllister a big contract a few years ago hoping the money would would make him realize his responsibility to the team.

A big contract and the recognition as one of the top corners in the NFL could make an already outstanding coener even better.

I'm not sure who I'd want more Clements or Thomas? Thomas fits SF's system perfectly as a guy who can rush off the end to get preassure on the QB and drop into coverage on a TE or back.

Having a shut down corner who can man up on a teams #1 receiver gives the niners the ability to send a safety or another LB on blitzes to preassure the QB.

Both guys would be great additions but I can't see SF signing both of them.

 
Maybe not.

From Scout.com Insider:

Scout.com reported before 11AM that the 49ers had emerged as the "front runners" for Clements, as reported in Adam Caplan's blog.

A 49er fan site and Pro Football Talk, however, took it a step further and reported that Clements had signed to a deal with the 49ers that included $23 million in guaranteed money.

This doesn't tie to what we've been told on the OBR, however.

John Taylor wrote in Ask the Insiders at 11:22 this morning:

"Clements reps say that there is no deal in place with the 49ers, or any team for that matter, and that no deal is imminent. His office called the reports "false and very untrue". Just got off the phone with them five minutes ago. And the soap opera continues..."

 
NFLNW reporting Clements signed for 20 mil garanteed, 80 mil, 8 years, making him the highest paid DB in the NFL.

 
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the 49ers agreed to terms with cornerback Nate Clements on a eight-year, $80 million contract.

$22 million was guaranteed. Clements can say he's the highest paid defensive player in NFL history, but he didn't get the most guaranteed money and the deal is essentially six years and $44.5 million. It's still an amazing figure for a player that has been an average starter at best for two of his last four seasons. Clements, Shawntae Spencer, and Walt Harris should make a solid trio at corner for the ascending 49ers. Mar. 2 - 7:31 pm et

 
Wow. After seeing the Bills sign 3 O-linemen today and how much Clements got, I'm happy that the Bills let him go and went the direction they went in free agency. Absolutely stunning.

 
Nate Clements-DB- 49ers Mar. 2 - 7:31 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the 49ers agreed to terms with cornerback Nate Clements on a eight-year, $80 million contract.

$22 million was guaranteed. Clements can say he's the highest paid defensive player in NFL history, but he didn't get the most guaranteed money and the deal is essentially six years and $44.5 million. It's still an amazing figure for a player that has been an average starter at best for two of his last four seasons. Clements, Shawntae Spencer, and Walt Harris should make a solid trio at corner for the ascending 49ers.

 
the monster contract really should not have come as a surprise.

hope Nate lives up to the deal and I'm glad that he didn't wind up with the Jets or Dolphins.

 
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If they wanted him, with $ being they way it is, they were going to have to overpay him. I think it is good signing for the 49ers. He will dramatically improve their defense, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the first signing. They had Michael Lewis in town, and AT tomorrow.

 
BoltBacker said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
the monster contract really should not have come as a surprise.
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I wasn't all that surprised by the $ involved, just surprised by the guaranteed portion. That is a TON of dough for a guy that hasn't always played like the best player at his position.
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with Samuel off the market, he's the best FA CB by far. I think he's actually the best FA available this offseason, offense or defense. Still young and improving too.
 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Still young and improving too.
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I thought that was up for debate. I thought sometime around '02 was kind of his peak and since then he's kind of roller-coastered. He'll play like an All-pro for a few weeks but then inexplicable has some average games but then bounce back and play like an All-pro again.Living out here on the west coast I don't get to see him a lot. Believe me if there are players that absolutely deserve top dollar I think it's a true shut-down corner with an all around game(in the Mike Haynes mold imo) but I'm just not sure if this guy fits the bill week in and week out. For that much $ he better force opponents to throw to their #2 WR and shut down all the #1's he faces. Do you think he does that?Another slight quibble, isn't the guy 28? This is his prime and I'm not sure he'll be worth that type of $ in two years yet if $22mil is guaranteed he had better be playing at an all-pro level age 30 and beyond.
 
The 49's arent done either :

Michael Lewis-DB- 49ers Mar. 2 - 8:18 pm et

49ers signed S Michael Lewis to an undisclosed contract.

San Francisco has been looking for someone to compete with free safety Keith Lewis, but Michael is a strong safety. We'll have to see where Lewis fits into the Niners' plans. He played some outside linebacker in Philly.

Source: The Santa Rosa Press Democrat

 
he does play poorly at times...but, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any CB in the league who doesn't. the rules are set up to favor the offensive players. plus, I've often disagreed with the way the coaching staff has used him. I don't think they've always put him in the best position to make plays. It took them forever to finally let him start matching up against the opponent's best WR, but once they did that this season, his level of play took off.

I think he has the ability to become a perennial Pro Bowler if Walt Harris can do what he just did in that system.

He just turned 27 in December. He should have at least 4 more good years in him.

 
Al Toon said:
The 49's arent done either : Michael Lewis-DB- 49ers Mar. 2 - 8:18 pm et 49ers signed S Michael Lewis to an undisclosed contract.San Francisco has been looking for someone to compete with free safety Keith Lewis, but Michael is a strong safety. We'll have to see where Lewis fits into the Niners' plans. He played some outside linebacker in Philly.Source: The Santa Rosa Press Democrat
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Lewis-Lewis tandem at safety. Michael Lewis fell out of favor in Philadelphia, but I think he'll upgrade the 49ers run defense.
 
Al Toon said:
The 49's arent done either : Michael Lewis-DB- 49ers Mar. 2 - 8:18 pm et 49ers signed S Michael Lewis to an undisclosed contract.San Francisco has been looking for someone to compete with free safety Keith Lewis, but Michael is a strong safety. We'll have to see where Lewis fits into the Niners' plans. He played some outside linebacker in Philly.Source: The Santa Rosa Press Democrat
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Maybe that's why they are paying so much for the quality CB's. Lewis isn't going to help a lot in coverage but he can still contribute in a lot of ways if he's not asked to help cover WR's. I've always liked Lewis and with Clements/Harris/Spencer it should free both SF safeties up.
 
ESPNEWS is reporting it is a done deal. 8 years for 80 million! :shrug:

ETA- Just saw the earlier posts with the same reports. Good pickup for the 9ers for sure.

 
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49ers need a lot of help, but their third down defense was the biggest (of many) problems. Clements should help with that, and now they need some more help rushing the QB. I have to think they will get some more help at LB either through FA or early in the draft.

 
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