delusional
Footballguy
Dont know if it helps but apparently Lewis from the Eagles is out in SF being interviewed too
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
CB Nate Clements to 49ers for 8rs/$80MM (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter silvergold
- Start date
he reportedly has signed or at least agreed to terms already.
Domination
Footballguy
The 49ers are adding quality guys to their young team. They are building in the right direction, and with a good draft they could compete in their division.
Agreed Grove.And let me add this: Clements is precisely the kind of guy that only REALLY shows up for the money. It was only last year that Bills fans began to wonder if McGee was actually better. Not even close, of course, but the fact remains, NC underwhelmed us many times, and I have a sneaking suspicion that he will be nothing more than 'good' for the 9rs. Until he is up for another contract...So I am not broken up about it, other then not being able to get something for him. I really want to root for players that are happy to be in Buffalo. Nate was not.GroveDiesel said:He also missed a ton of time in 2005. And he'll probably miss a bunch of time going forward. Like I said, good luck with that. I'll take Jason Peters over Jonas Jennings every single day too.derek19 said:Jonas Jennings did pretty damn good last year blocking for Gore. How many yards willis have? If you want to know how many Gore had, see the sig.Someone on the Bills message board said that they were announcing on Sportscenter someone being signed to the largest contract ever at that position. I can only think that it has to be Clements. If so, good luck with that Niners. Clements is good, but he's not THAT kind of money good. That makes two former Buffalo players grossly overpaid by the Niners.Edit: NM.Someone else said that it was Lorenzo Neal and that it was already announced yesterday.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
49ers going after it in a big way...
The Clements signing speaks for itself, but the Michael Lewis signing was also astute. While it's true my Birds lost confidence in him and benched him partway through last season, he was a Pro Bowler for us not to long ago and can absolutely be effective in the right schemes.
The Clements signing speaks for itself, but the Michael Lewis signing was also astute. While it's true my Birds lost confidence in him and benched him partway through last season, he was a Pro Bowler for us not to long ago and can absolutely be effective in the right schemes.
Domination
Footballguy
I think that the Lewis signing could actually end up being bigger than the Clements signing. They will form a very good seconday for the next few years.BoltBacker
Footballguy
It's not just their secondary either, I like the way their LB's came along last year. They do really need to start grooming a replacement for Derek Smith though.If they can focus on improving that DL in the draft and can find some help to replace Antonio Bryant via FA I agree with those that think SF has a legit shot to catch SEA this year... especially if an aging Hassebeck gets dinged up again.
derek19
Footballguy
toxicbees
Footballguy
Ronnie Lott was on local radio the other day saying that he thinks the Niners need a Nose Tackle to be a force in the middle.
Looks like they signed him, per John Clayton:"The 49ers are going to give Ravens nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin a three-year, $6 million contract that includes a $3 million signing bonus. "
toxicbees
Footballguy
Yup, just heard that. Not a bad day! 3 signings 3 new starters!
The Ref
Footballguy
From your lips to Gods ears.
I suppose my impressions were formed indirectly. For how many years has NC talked about being the highest paid CB in the NFL? In that time how many times did he mention how much he enjoyed playing in Buffalo? He was no more then a Willis McGahee with a brain, who managed to not shoot himself in the foot with a Toronto comment.That does not make him a bad guy, of course. He never made me think, however, that he was about anything other than himself and his big payday. Compare NC with Kelsey's comments after his signing. Big difference.
I predict that NC will fade enough to make the SF crowd wonder why they ever got excited about him.
houdini
Footballguy
While the money was huge, it's was worth paying extra to make sure that he didn't leave without a contract and someone else would have paid about the same. It's also worth a little extra to take away the Leon Hall at #11 considerations. Now the #11 focus can be WR or DL or LB, as it should be. The Niners were forced to spend large dollars in free agency by the minimum salary cap rule, might as well spend it at CB.
toxicbees
Footballguy
The 23 mil is all that's guaranteed. The terms of the contract have not been disclosed and it could be heavily back loaded. It's not going to be a 8 year contract, more likely 4. So while it sounds outrageous at first, it's pretty reasonable.
houdini
Footballguy
It sounds like it's effectively 6 years and $44½m. If so, then he'll never see the $35½m the last two years when he's in his mid-30's. Yes, that's a decent contract. Part of me hopes as much as half of the $22m is a roster bonus. Gouge the cap this year leaving lots of money to spend again in future years. There's really only the WR position to spend money on in free agency this season. That and contract extensions to Gore and others.
The Jacket
Footballguy
LOL, they just made Dockery the most overpaid player in the history of pro football. Get real.
Balco
Footballguy
WOw, that is a ton of money to throw at a corner. Clements is a solid starter, but wow!!!!
The LEwis deal seems to be getting ripped, but I have always been a big fan. Nobody is going to compare him to Deion Sanders in coverage, but he will take your head off if you cross him. He is going to bring alot of attitude to that D.
The LEwis deal seems to be getting ripped, but I have always been a big fan. Nobody is going to compare him to Deion Sanders in coverage, but he will take your head off if you cross him. He is going to bring alot of attitude to that D.
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
I just want to say I think that with all of these moved you have to look at the 49ers as having one of the better defenses out there now. I think it will take a few games to gel, but I love the way they are coached. They were flying around the field before, now they have some muscle to go with the scheme.
Just my opinion, but I think they are doing an excellent job of plugging holes. I would say they are going to end up in the top 10 in defense next year.
Just my opinion, but I think they are doing an excellent job of plugging holes. I would say they are going to end up in the top 10 in defense next year.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Rudnicki has a much higher opinion of Clements than most other Bills fans. You won't convince him. Clements is a very very good CB. But he's not elite. He's not a shutdown corner and he doesn't pick the ball off very often. He's also not that terrific in run support. You don't normally need to help him out though as he's safe to leave one on one with a WR. But I completely agree about Clements and the money. He was always about the money. Whatever team offered him the most money was where he was going to end up. You can't blame him for that, but the guy is a bit more of a "me" player than a "team" player IMO.
If you gave me a choice of having Winfield back or Clements back, especially in the Cover Two, I'd take Winfield.
Balco
Footballguy
It looks like Nolan wants to build his team like the Ravens team he was corrdinator for: Strong Defense, power running game. He seems to be well on his way. He needs to address the wide receiver position, though.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yeah, that Ryan Leaf really earned his money. Give me a break. There are some scouts out there that believe that Dockery is every bit as good as Steinbach and I don't hear anyone saying that he was grossy overpaid. Steinbach is more of a technician and the talking heads get excited because he could potentially play OT as well. But Dockery is a classic road grading guard. He knocks guys off of the ball and flattens them on the run. He's a big guy but is able to get low and stay low which makes him a pretty decent pass blocker as well. Between Peters and Dockery the Bills will have one of the top left sides in football. Even Len P says that many considered Dockery one of the top 15 FAs out there this year. Get back to me in 2 years and we'll see how everyone feels about the Clements contract versus the Dockery contract. Who knows, maybe in 2 years we'll both be happy, or maybe we'll both be 
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
PFT is reporting $10M in guaranteed money for Michael Lewis. The positive is that with Clements able to man up on a guy without any help you don't have to ask Lewis to do as much. Because it was pretty clear that you can't ask Lewis to cover a WR one on one anymore. If the Niners can use him mostly for run support I think that they'll be alright. $10M guaranteed seems like a decent chunk of change for a guy that got benched due to declining performance last season though. Of course there could obviously could have been some injury that nobody knew about. In that case this would be an absolute steal.
23 INTs, 13 FF, and 5 defensive TDs (plus 2 more on punt returns) in 96 games. Hasn't missed a game in his 6-year career.Clements has his flaws, and I agree that he's more of a me guy than a team guy, but there just aren't many great CBs out there these days. He's easily one of the league's elite right now.
NinerK
Footballguy
What I heard the GM say on the radio yesterday was that PHI wanted the Safety they took with a #1 to start getting in the games. That he hadn't dropped off in performance a whole lot; just the money they invested in the draft pick played more into it.Now, that could be some spin on the SF GM Scott Mcloughan; but him and Nolan seem to have a plan and direction. They don't strike me as the kind of people to sign a player just to say "we signed a former pro bowler"......Furthermore, there have been many reports that Nolan was preparing the defensive gameplans last year; I bet he has a specific role in mind for Lewis. Probably run support; as has been mentioned above.GO NINERS!!!!
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I like the aquisitions made by the 9ers so far and has been allready mentioned if these contracts are front loaded then it will free up cap space for next season's FA market as well.
Clements is a key signing for the 9ers who must play against the Holt, Boldin, Fitzgerald, Jackson, Bruce in 6 of thier division games. They now have 3 compitient cornerbacks who can matchup with these great WRs.
The 9ers still have a lot of needs in the front 7 of thier defense but at least now they should be able to cover well and better than any of thier competitors in the NFC West.
Clements is a key signing for the 9ers who must play against the Holt, Boldin, Fitzgerald, Jackson, Bruce in 6 of thier division games. They now have 3 compitient cornerbacks who can matchup with these great WRs.
The 9ers still have a lot of needs in the front 7 of thier defense but at least now they should be able to cover well and better than any of thier competitors in the NFC West.
