Chad Johnson Hurt (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

As a Chad owner, I wasnt even worried about what I was gonna do to replace Chad if he was done for the season. Hes been my worst WR since I got him (week 3). Of course this doesnt mean I wanted to see him get hurt.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Was hoping to see an update on Chad but about half-way through it got into the usual low-class postings. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. One thing that I didn't get was did Housh get in the ambulance right then (I could swear I could see is name as an intended receiver in a later play) or did he get in the ambulance with Chad AFTER the game? Either way, it shows how close they are. I hope Chad's back when he can play and doesn't rush it if things aren't 100%.

-QG

 

[thayman]

Did T.O. ever take a swing at his coach at halftime ? Don't kid yourself, this guy is in T.O. territory, and worse than T.O. is right now. He may have been hurt, may not have been, but it wouldn't shock me one bit if he faked it to get out of the game and not have to answer all the questions after the game...

No TO hasn't. And neither has Johnson.

Really, halftime of the 05 Cinncy-Pittsburgh game ring a bell? Last week I read Palmer's lips on the sideline clearly telling CJ to "Shut the f### up".....

Really go check the actual facts and get back to me.

 

[NorrisB]

Fellow receiver and good friend T.J. Houshmandzadeh jumped into the ambulance to be with Johnson.

Happy not to hear the "We had a game to win" BS. Props to TJ for being a true friend.

They did have a game to win. And then they lost.

If I were playing at that level I'd think I would want my teammates to concentrate on winning if I went down.

Can you take your sorry smack to the FFA I really dont appreciate you belittling the bengals like you always do in a time like this. Steeler fans are pathetic

 

[Sheriff66]

Fellow receiver and good friend T.J. Houshmandzadeh jumped into the ambulance to be with Johnson.

Happy not to hear the "We had a game to win" BS. Props to TJ for being a true friend.

They did have a game to win. And then they lost.

If I were playing at that level I'd think I would want my teammates to concentrate on winning if I went down.

Can you take your sorry smack to the FFA I really dont appreciate you belittling the bengals like you always do in a time like this. Steeler fans are pathetic

I said he may have been hurt, but wouldn't be suprised if he wasn't as "hurt" as it seemed to be.

 

[KoolKat]

I hate to sound cynical, but I was watching the game when it happened and I noticed a few things. First off, it didn't look like a bad hit. Secondly, Chad put his hands on teh field and started pushing himself up, but then grabbed his helmet and started wiggling around a little. It was after that that he began to just lay there motionless.If it were anyone else but Chad Johnson, this wouldn't even cross my mind, but I can't help but to think that he may have been a bit over-dramatic after the hit. For starters, he hasn't had a touchdown in five weeks. Secondly, he took his third hard hit of the game and they were getting their butt's kicked. I think he may have kind of given-up after that hit and as he laid there, began liking the attention that the doctors and players were giving him.I could be 100% wrong, but that is exactly what I was thinking while I was watching it. The fact that his tests all turned out normal, does nothing to make me change my mind.I bet he doesn't miss a game.

You are a complete TOOL.

I think all who speculate that this was the case are cold and heartless. A guy goes down, motionless, and the first thing that pops into your mind is, "He's faking it." My immediate reaction would be, "Man, I really hope he's alright." The fact that this would even cross your mind identifies the quality of your character immediately. I suppose TJ hopped into the ambo to avoid questioning after the game too. :X

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Fellow receiver and good friend T.J. Houshmandzadeh jumped into the ambulance to be with Johnson.

Happy not to hear the "We had a game to win" BS. Props to TJ for being a true friend.

They did have a game to win. And then they lost.

If I were playing at that level I'd think I would want my teammates to concentrate on winning if I went down.

Can you take your sorry smack to the FFA I really dont appreciate you belittling the bengals like you always do in a time like this. Steeler fans are pathetic

Please point out the smack or belittling that I did here. TIA.

The Bengals have done a fantastic job of making themselves look bad this year. I don't have to add anything. Grow some tougher bark, Sally.

 

[cj*]

Imagine that, a thread about a Bengal littered with Steeler fans.

 

[thayman]

Was hoping to see an update on Chad but about half-way through it got into the usual low-class postings. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. One thing that I didn't get was did Housh get in the ambulance right then (I could swear I could see is name as an intended receiver in a later play) or did he get in the ambulance with Chad AFTER the game? Either way, it shows how close they are. I hope Chad's back when he can play and doesn't rush it if things aren't 100%.-QG

Housh was targeted 5 plays after Johnson was removed from the field.

 

[treat88]

Steeler fan here.

Here's to hoping CJ is healthy and on the field again quickly.

His shtick is a little stale, but the guy is a helluva football player.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Was hoping to see an update on Chad but about half-way through it got into the usual low-class postings. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. One thing that I didn't get was did Housh get in the ambulance right then (I could swear I could see is name as an intended receiver in a later play) or did he get in the ambulance with Chad AFTER the game? Either way, it shows how close they are. I hope Chad's back when he can play and doesn't rush it if things aren't 100%.-QG

Housh was targeted 5 plays after Johnson was removed from the field.

Thanks, that's what I thought. They probably mean he went in the ambulance from the stadium to the hospital. I thought they said they did a CT-scan of him on site.-QG

 

[Lambert]

Steeler fan here.Here's to hoping CJ is healthy and on the field again quickly.His shtick is a little stale, but the guy is a helluva football player.

As another Steeler fan, I too hope CJ turns out to be fine and back on the field right away. While I enjoy seeing the Steelers kick the Bengals butts as much as the next Steeler fan, it's a game, and I don't wish an injury on CJ or anyone else.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Housh was targeted 5 plays after Johnson was removed from the field.

Thanks, that's what I thought. They probably mean he went in the ambulance from the stadium to the hospital. I thought they said they did a CT-scan of him on site.-QG

Cool. Then it makes the alleged game abandonment issue moot. I would be suprised, knowing what I know about Housh, if was to split in the middle of a game. Also, just for NorrisB, here's even more smack and belittling:I hope CJ's all healthy and ready to go next week.

 

[MCguidance]

i think this can hurt housh more than anything...bump to henry, donwgrade to housh, now that they can key more on his skill set

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Sorry if I missed this....but just reported in the SNF broadcast that he flew home with the team.

 

[aldelgreco]

i think this can hurt housh more than anything...bump to henry, donwgrade to housh, now that they can key more on his skill set

 

[Tommy Collins]

Does this remind anyone of the Moss situation in Oakland? Team is doing terrible, Moss' stats suffer dramatically. This Bengals team is in disarray to say the least. All the off-season problems they had, coming off a disappointing season, the team is doing absolutely terrible. It seems like superstars like Moss & 85 don't do as well when their surrounding teams are suffering. I don't know if it's the attention they receive individually or what, but it seems like it's a possibility.

With the rumors surfacing of 85 being traded this off-season, I wonder what this will do to the Bengals if it's really true. I'd like to see him stay and them hire someone to keep that team in line.

 

[EBF]

Does this remind anyone of the Moss situation in Oakland? Team is doing terrible, Moss' stats suffer dramatically. This Bengals team is in disarray to say the least. All the off-season problems they had, coming off a disappointing season, the team is doing absolutely terrible. It seems like superstars like Moss & 85 don't do as well when their surrounding teams are suffering. I don't know if it's the attention they receive individually or what, but it seems like it's a possibility.With the rumors surfacing of 85 being traded this off-season, I wonder what this will do to the Bengals if it's really true. I'd like to see him stay and them hire someone to keep that team in line.

I don't think he's tanking it. I think he really got hurt.But don't you think guys like Moss and CJ have a right to be angry when their teams suck?Imagine going to work every day for a company whose employees are a bunch of idiots who don't stay on task and don't get anything done. You work hard. You stay on task and do a great job. Nevertheless, your company continually loses money because your co-workers are utterly inept. I don't know about you, but I'd probably get tired of it pretty quickly.It's easy for football fans to criticize guys like Moss and CJ when they pout about their teammates, but that's probably because most football fans haven't bothered to consider what it must be like being a star player on a team full of clowns. Football isn't like basketball where one dominant player can single-handedly carry a team. In football a guy is counting on 21 other starters and a handful of special teams players to help his team win. If you're Chad Johnson and your teammates are consistently letting you down then maybe you have a right to be angry. Maybe you have a right to pack it in and demand a trade.

 

[Tommy Collins]

Does this remind anyone of the Moss situation in Oakland? Team is doing terrible, Moss' stats suffer dramatically. This Bengals team is in disarray to say the least. All the off-season problems they had, coming off a disappointing season, the team is doing absolutely terrible. It seems like superstars like Moss & 85 don't do as well when their surrounding teams are suffering. I don't know if it's the attention they receive individually or what, but it seems like it's a possibility.With the rumors surfacing of 85 being traded this off-season, I wonder what this will do to the Bengals if it's really true. I'd like to see him stay and them hire someone to keep that team in line.

I don't think he's tanking it. I think he really got hurt.But don't you think guys like Moss and CJ have a right to be angry when their teams suck?Imagine going to work every day for a company whose employees are a bunch of idiots who don't stay on task and don't get anything done. You work hard. You stay on task and do a great job. Nevertheless, your company continually loses money because your co-workers are utterly inept. I don't know about you, but I'd probably get tired of it pretty quickly.It's easy for football fans to criticize guys like Moss and CJ when they pout about their teammates, but that's probably because most football fans haven't bothered to consider what it must be like being a star player on a team full of clowns. Football isn't like basketball where one dominant player can single-handedly carry a team. In football a guy is counting on 21 other starters and a handful of special teams players to help his team win. If you're Chad Johnson and your teammates are consistently letting you down then maybe you have a right to be angry. Maybe you have a right to pack it in and demand a trade.

I don't blame him at all. Just wondered if anybody else thought it was a similar situation for him.

 

[Judge Smails]

He's in a funk. It happens. He's putting pressure on himself every time the ball is in the air and now he's missing some easy ones. He had zero antics today other than getting mad at himself. Doesn't help when CP constantly lays him out in the middle as well. Chad takes all the big hits.

This guy was a great receiver. He's still in his prime. Barring injury, great receivers in their prime usually don't become stiffs. This is a team sport. Every play to him is a deep post or fly pattern. All or nothing. No slants to get him the ball in stride. I think the Bengals coaching staff had done less this year with more talent than any staff in recent memory. They should be the one getting booed.

 

[shadyridr]

Anybody else think Palmer is a bit overrated? Jeez he lays out CJ and TJ more than anybody Ive ever seen.

 

[smapdi]

Chad ended up costing the Bungles the game yesterday.

There was a pivotal 3rd down in the 3rd quarter and Palmer threw him a rope that he could have easily taken to the house and he drops it; ouch. The Bengals would have had all the momentum at that point and would have probably won the game.

He should worry more about football then doing his endless stream of advertisments

 

[Chunky Soup]

Chad ended up costing the Bungles the game yesterday.There was a pivotal 3rd down in the 3rd quarter and Palmer threw him a rope that he could have easily taken to the house and he drops it; ouch. The Bengals would have had all the momentum at that point and would have probably won the game. He should worry more about football then doing his endless stream of advertisments

Yeah, because he was thinking about his celebration when he dropped the ball. It happens. Braylon dropped an easy one yesterday, SS dropped a few throughout the season, TO drops a plenty. Get over it.And he cost them the game? Yeah, because the defense sure put them in a position to win. This team has a lot more problems then a drop by Chad.

 

[428143]

Dramatizing an injury would benefit Johnson how? I wouldn't put it past the guy, but what good comes from it?

 

[OU#1]

I hope Chad's ok cause he creates drama in a fun way and is a really good NFL receiver. I really like the guy.

From a fantasy perspective he's definately been "Ocho Nada" this year (as per Doug and Doug on Comedy.com).

 

[LMF]

I hope Chad's ok cause he creates drama in a fun way and is a really good NFL receiver. I really like the guy.From a fantasy perspective he's definately been "Ocho Nada" this year (as per Doug and Doug on Comedy.com).

Your fantasy perspective is completely wrong. How can you say that the 8th best fantasy reciever in points is nada? He is the 2nd most yards I'm the entire NFL right now for WR's. I am utterly confused. People just make statements before they check there facts. Hope to see you on the field next week Ocho CINCO.LMF

 

[Loopdog]

It's in his head now, you can see it. Chad is pressing big time. But the real problem has been the Bengals inability to keep Carson Palmer protected long enough to let the deep routes develop. Good post above by Judge above. If you watch the Bengals, you understand this. Why do you think TJ has 10 TD's this year? Because he's better than Chad? No. Because TJ runs all the underneath and crossing routes and Chad runs the deep routes - go's, outs, posts. TJ runs slants and crossing routes. And if you think that Chad doesn't open the field up for TJ, you're nuts. Chad is what makes the Bengals offense click when its going good, defenses respect him to an utmost degree. I'm not saying TJ isn't good because he absolutely is, but Chad is the key cog in that offense. He's not dogging it, he's trying to do too much. He's far too good to be held down for long, stick with him, he'll be fine.

 

[geneyus]

The dude's fine, lets move on.

"The scan of his neck checked out normal and Johnson was able to make it to the airport in time to catch the Bengals' charter flight home."

Link

 

[LILB811]

The people that think Chad was faking this injury are completely ridiculous. A ploy to get onto SportsCenter because he hasn't caught a TD lately?? Say what you want about his antics and frustrations, but this guy has respect for the game and the other players that play it. Players have the same mutual respect for Chad. To think that he would compromise any of that by faking a neck injury and getting carted off the field for more air time is seriously off base.

ESPN Story. Sounds like a serious situation to me.

"The hit didn't look that bad" is a completely bogus argument. In the past guys have had season ending injuries that "didn't look that bad". Hopefully Chad recovers quickly and is alright to continue.

 

[North]

Chad ended up costing the Bungles the game yesterday.There was a pivotal 3rd down in the 3rd quarter and Palmer threw him a rope that he could have easily taken to the house and he drops it; ouch. The Bengals would have had all the momentum at that point and would have probably won the game. He should worry more about football then doing his endless stream of advertisments

I love to hear fans blame Chad each week for losing the game. He makes a convenient scapegoat because of his antics but the fact is:IT'S HARD FOR HIM TO DO ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE WHEN HIS QB ONLY THROWS HIM THE BALL 6 TIMES!Thats right, only 6 targets. So don't go blaming the lose on one play. You obviously don't know anything about TEAM SPORTS. Their lose couldn't have anything to do with the fact that their D couldn't stop a girl scout troop from scoring a td.Before you make assumptions about what "would have" or "could have" happened if he caught the ball, take into account their defense stinks and one play doesn't win or lose a game.

 

[LMF]

Chad ended up costing the Bungles the game yesterday.There was a pivotal 3rd down in the 3rd quarter and Palmer threw him a rope that he could have easily taken to the house and he drops it; ouch. The Bengals would have had all the momentum at that point and would have probably won the game. He should worry more about football then doing his endless stream of advertisments

I love to hear fans blame Chad each week for losing the game. He makes a convenient scapegoat because of his antics but the fact is:IT'S HARD FOR HIM TO DO ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE WHEN HIS QB ONLY THROWS HIM THE BALL 6 TIMES!Thats right, only 6 targets. So don't go blaming the lose on one play. You obviously don't know anything about TEAM SPORTS. Their lose couldn't have anything to do with the fact that their D couldn't stop a girl scout troop from scoring a td.Before you make assumptions about what "would have" or "could have" happened if he caught the ball, take into account their defense stinks and one play doesn't win or lose a game.

He had 8 pass targets.

 

[shadyridr]

Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says Chad Johnson has a sprained neck, but could play in Week 10 against the Ravens.Johnson made the team charter home and was at the Bengals' facility on Monday, both positive signs. Still, Lewis isn't always straightforward with the media, and fantasy owners should be prepared for any scenario. Johnson did not talk to reporters Monday. His status will be updated by Wednesday. Nov. 5 - 4:12 pm et

 

[JuniorNB]

The people that think Chad was faking this injury are completely ridiculous. A ploy to get onto SportsCenter because he hasn't caught a TD lately?? Say what you want about his antics and frustrations, but this guy has respect for the game and the other players that play it. Players have the same mutual respect for Chad. To think that he would compromise any of that by faking a neck injury and getting carted off the field for more air time is seriously off base.

ESPN Story. Sounds like a serious situation to me.

"The hit didn't look that bad" is a completely bogus argument. In the past guys have had season ending injuries that "didn't look that bad". Hopefully Chad recovers quickly and is alright to continue.

I can't think of one serious neck injury that didn't look bad when I watched the replay. Until yesterday.

 

[JuniorNB]

Bengals coach Marvin Lewis says Chad Johnson has a sprained neck, but could play in Week 10 against the Ravens.

Johnson made the team charter home and was at the Bengals' facility on Monday, both positive signs. Still, Lewis isn't always straightforward with the media, and fantasy owners should be prepared for any scenario. Johnson did not talk to reporters Monday. His status will be updated by Wednesday. Nov. 5 - 4:12 pm et

Of course he will.

 

[thayman]

Does this remind anyone of the Moss situation in Oakland? Team is doing terrible, Moss' stats suffer dramatically. This Bengals team is in disarray to say the least. All the off-season problems they had, coming off a disappointing season, the team is doing absolutely terrible. It seems like superstars like Moss & 85 don't do as well when their surrounding teams are suffering. I don't know if it's the attention they receive individually or what, but it seems like it's a possibility.With the rumors surfacing of 85 being traded this off-season, I wonder what this will do to the Bengals if it's really true. I'd like to see him stay and them hire someone to keep that team in line.

If by his stats suffering dramaticaly you mean having more receptions, yards, and TDs than he had at this time last year than you are spot on. Or perhaps you mean his starts are down from 2005? There are done quite a bit he has 29 less yards this year than he did in 2005, and 2 less TDs, and he did that with 6 more receptions. Or perhaps you were refering to 2004?? He has 155 more yards and 1 more TD so far this year.It sounds to me like his stats are pretty much on par with every other year.

 

[Project Mayhem]

Chad Johnson has a chance to play Sunday in Baltimore after he showed up at work Monday without a neck brace. Johnson saw the media gather at his locker, had no comment, winced as he stood up and went into the training room.

Link

 

[OU#1]

I hope Chad's ok cause he creates drama in a fun way and is a really good NFL receiver. I really like the guy.From a fantasy perspective he's definately been "Ocho Nada" this year (as per Doug and Doug on Comedy.com).

Your fantasy perspective is completely wrong. How can you say that the 8th best fantasy reciever in points is nada? He is the 2nd most yards I'm the entire NFL right now for WR's. I am utterly confused. People just make statements before they check there facts. Hope to see you on the field next week Ocho CINCO.LMF

It's not because of his overall stats....Chad is a prime example of boom or bust. I owned him last year and I passed on him this year because of that exact reason. IMHO so far this year he's been Ocho Nada more than Ocho Cinco but so have a lot of Top 10 ADP WR's.FWIW he's #14 im my distance league in PPG. Out of the thirteen ahead of him one is injured (AJ) but the rest have produced stats the last few weeks. #14 would make him a WR2 in 12 team leagues which is far below the Top 5 expectations that most had for him. Not to mention TJ is clearly the better fantasy choice so far this season...Nada is just a fun word to use and shouldn't be taken literally. Again I stole that from Doug and Doug's Week 9 fantasy bit. Obviously he's very valuable. I would love to have him as my WR2 if it makes you sleep better at night. Considering his 4 and 5 point performances the last couple weeks I think Ocho Nada is a fun way of putting it. It doesn' thelp that the Bungles are really stinking up the field (2-6). :(

 

[Das Boot]

Linky...

He was in the locker room on Monday, but declined to talk to reporters, shaking his head before getting up with that wince and slowly walking away.

The silence had more to do with bruised feelings. Johnson has declined interviews for the past two weeks, miffed by suggestions that his antics have become a distraction to his sinking team.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Fellow receiver and good friend T.J. Houshmandzadeh jumped into the ambulance to be with Johnson.

Happy not to hear the "We had a game to win" BS. Props to TJ for being a true friend.

How many FF points for riding in an ambulance? I really should check my league's scoring rules.

 

[ceo3west]

Per KFFL:

Bengals | C. Johnson practices WednesdayWed, 7 Nov 2007 11:39:00 -0800Mark Curnutte, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (neck) participated in practice Wednesday, Nov. 7. He was wearing a neck support, similiar to the ones linebackers wear, during practice.

Sounds like he will probably suit up Sunday

 

[thayman]

Per KFFL:

Bengals | C. Johnson practices WednesdayWed, 7 Nov 2007 11:39:00 -0800Mark Curnutte, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (neck) participated in practice Wednesday, Nov. 7. He was wearing a neck support, similiar to the ones linebackers wear, during practice.

Sounds like he will probably suit up Sunday

That is awesome news.

 

[Sheriff66]

Per KFFL:

Bengals | C. Johnson practices WednesdayWed, 7 Nov 2007 11:39:00 -0800Mark Curnutte, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (neck) participated in practice Wednesday, Nov. 7. He was wearing a neck support, similiar to the ones linebackers wear, during practice.

Sounds like he will probably suit up Sunday :X

That is awesome news.

Yup, who would have thunk it....

 

[Sweeper]

Per KFFL:

Bengals | C. Johnson practices WednesdayWed, 7 Nov 2007 11:39:00 -0800Mark Curnutte, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (neck) participated in practice Wednesday, Nov. 7. He was wearing a neck support, similiar to the ones linebackers wear, during practice.

Sounds like he will probably suit up Sunday :X

That is awesome news.

Yup, who would have thunk it....

uuummmmm .... everyone who's ever watching him celebrate a TD?

 

[jesse]

Just proves to me again that either he was faking the injury, or he's the biggest wuss in the NFL.

Fire away!

 

[trout]

Does this remind anyone of the Moss situation in Oakland? Team is doing terrible, Moss' stats suffer dramatically. This Bengals team is in disarray to say the least. All the off-season problems they had, coming off a disappointing season, the team is doing absolutely terrible. It seems like superstars like Moss & 85 don't do as well when their surrounding teams are suffering. I don't know if it's the attention they receive individually or what, but it seems like it's a possibility.With the rumors surfacing of 85 being traded this off-season, I wonder what this will do to the Bengals if it's really true. I'd like to see him stay and them hire someone to keep that team in line.

If by his stats suffering dramaticaly you mean having more receptions, yards, and TDs than he had at this time last year than you are spot on. Or perhaps you mean his starts are down from 2005? There are done quite a bit he has 29 less yards this year than he did in 2005, and 2 less TDs, and he did that with 6 more receptions. Or perhaps you were refering to 2004?? He has 155 more yards and 1 more TD so far this year.It sounds to me like his stats are pretty much on par with every other year.

C'mon...you serious? I guess Johnson owners (myself included) have been hating TJ getting better numbers this year....makes it seem like Johnson's stats are off. I just checked my league site on RT. Last year chad averaged 8.25 fantasy points per game...so far this year, he's averaging 8.25 pts per game.

 

[chuckmorris]

Does this remind anyone of the Moss situation in Oakland? Team is doing terrible, Moss' stats suffer dramatically. This Bengals team is in disarray to say the least. All the off-season problems they had, coming off a disappointing season, the team is doing absolutely terrible. It seems like superstars like Moss & 85 don't do as well when their surrounding teams are suffering. I don't know if it's the attention they receive individually or what, but it seems like it's a possibility.With the rumors surfacing of 85 being traded this off-season, I wonder what this will do to the Bengals if it's really true. I'd like to see him stay and them hire someone to keep that team in line.

If by his stats suffering dramaticaly you mean having more receptions, yards, and TDs than he had at this time last year than you are spot on. Or perhaps you mean his starts are down from 2005? There are done quite a bit he has 29 less yards this year than he did in 2005, and 2 less TDs, and he did that with 6 more receptions. Or perhaps you were refering to 2004?? He has 155 more yards and 1 more TD so far this year.It sounds to me like his stats are pretty much on par with every other year.

C'mon...you serious? I guess Johnson owners (myself included) have been hating TJ getting better numbers this year....makes it seem like Johnson's stats are off. I just checked my league site on RT. Last year chad averaged 8.25 fantasy points per game...so far this year, he's averaging 8.25 pts per game.

As a Johnson owner, I haven't minded at all that TJ has gotten better numbers than Johnson, but that's probably only because I'm also a TJ owner and have been starting both every week. What I do mind is when any of the other Bengal receivers start being targeted. When Johnson was hurt and TJ rode to the hospital with him in the ambulance, that was as much of a double whammy for my team as it was for Cincy on the field. Not exactly the sort of thing that anyone could ever have predicted, but those are just the breaks.

 

[jamil]

Anybody else think Palmer is a bit overrated? Jeez he lays out CJ and TJ more than anybody Ive ever seen.

very not sure about overrated... but about every other play chad has to make a ridiculous catch and/or throw himself out there for a big hit. Palmer makes CJ expose his body a lot, it's ridiculous.