Cheap Young WR's (1 Viewer)

[loose circuits]

saw a similar thread in the AC forum and felt like this discussion belonged in the SP. It's similar to NorrisB's cheap RB thread. Which of these guys have the chance to break out? Obviously situations are gonna be in flux if the team drafts a WR early, but there are only a handful of elite guys in this class (not that it's not unusual) that will come in with potential to have impact year 1 so some of these guys may end up taking a step up.

Lafell- looked good in limited action last season, will he step into WR2 role?

Gettis- Has elite size/speed combo but took a step back because of injury last season

Benn- Has shown flashes, but another held back by injury. Does rotation in Tampa continue? Seems like they are likely to acquire WR??

Andre Roberts- turned it on at the end of season. Could be coming into his own heading into 3rd year??

Hankerson- Disappointment to some, but can we just write it off as growing pains? Need in Washington for a WR to step up.

Jacoby Ford- Has shown superstar potential, but just can't stay healthy.

D. Moore/DHB- Not sure how cheap either of these guys are, but one of these 3 guys in Oakland will emerge as Carson's WR1.

Clyde Gates- someone needs to step up opposite Marhsall. This guy has speed to burn and was drafted fairly early in rookie drafts.

Johnny Knox- Mixed reports on his recovery from that nasty hit. He could be a great buy low at this point. Chicago is likely going to acquire a WR, but he's probably better suited if he just has to beat single coverage and use his big play ability to stretch D's.

Sanzenbacher- Does his value fade now Martz is gone?

Jeremy Kerley- Showed potential in limited role and was hyped during camp. Does he have what it takes to step up? Most reports have New York acquiring a top WR, but they have holes and how much cap room?

David Nelson/Marcus Easley/Donald Jones: both of the latter have had careers held back by injury, but look to have some potential for different reasons. As of now, they project as Buffalo's top 3 WR's till they re-sign Stevie or acquire somebody else.

Anybody else belong in this group or that is comparable with upside? Comments on these guys?

 

[jeter23]

Hankerson's value in most of my leagues seems to be a late 1st. I don't consider that cheap based on what he has shown so far. I do agree with many on your list though.

 

[loose circuits]

Hankerson's value in most of my leagues seems to be a late 1st. I don't consider that cheap based on what he has shown so far. I do agree with many on your list though.

thanks for sharing. I wouldn't pay that either. I was more thinking if you could get him for mid-2nd. That is where he went last year in many of my drafts and I don't see why his value would have increased

 

[jeter23]

Hankerson's value in most of my leagues seems to be a late 1st. I don't consider that cheap based on what he has shown so far. I do agree with many on your list though.

thanks for sharing. I wouldn't pay that either. I was more thinking if you could get him for mid-2nd. That is where he went last year in many of my drafts and I don't see why his value would have increased

Exactly, I have compared to him Jacoby Ford, whose value seemed to increase throughout the offseason last year. Hankerson doing the same this year.

 

[cstu]

Jeremy Kerley- Showed potential in limited role and was hyped during camp. Does he have what it takes to step up? Most reports have New York acquiring a top WR, but they have holes and how much cap room?

Love this kid, however I don't have much faith in the Jets using him correctly (ala Welker). I don't think the Jets will sign a big FA WR, but they could draft a middle round WR.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Denarious Moore

Jacoby ford

Arrelious benn

Leonard hankerson

Dhb

Brandon lafell

Andre Roberts

David gettis

Donald jones

Johnny Knox

Clyde gates

Dane sanzenbacher

Easley

David Nelson

Jeremy kerley

 

[rct]

Hankerson's value in most of my leagues seems to be a late 1st. I don't consider that cheap based on what he has shown so far. I do agree with many on your list though.

thanks for sharing. I wouldn't pay that either. I was more thinking if you could get him for mid-2nd. That is where he went last year in many of my drafts and I don't see why his value would have increased

We are not talking Marcus Easley here, Hankerson actually played some in a few games and looked good in limited action - that is why his value has increased over last year.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Mike Thomas could bounce back to be serviceable in PPR. Dez Briscoe maybe has one more year to try to emerge, as I don't really like Benn at all.

I've scooped up LaFell in almost all my leagues and have hedged with Gettis where able as well.

Easley could be a nice sleeper too if the health issue is a non-factor now.

 

[loose circuits]

Mike Thomas could bounce back to be serviceable in PPR. Dez Briscoe maybe has one more year to try to emerge, as I don't really like Benn at all.I've scooped up LaFell in almost all my leagues and have hedged with Gettis where able as well.Easley could be a nice sleeper too if the health issue is a non-factor now.

I thought about adding Mike Thomas too, but I wasn't sure how 'cheap' he is. I think most people realize he's not NFL WR1 material, but if Gabbert can develop and Jax acquires another threat in passing game to take attention he could get back to solid WR3 type value. The problem is that there is a big 'if' when talking about Blaine Gabbert.I also like Jax WR's Chastin West, Cecil Shorts, and Jarrett Dillard as role guys, but they just don't have that top notch "go-to" guy and think they will invest in one to pair with their potential franchise QB

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

I like all the Oak WR's (I think any of the top 3 can be WR1's). If Carson continues to show he still has the physical tools he showed in 2011, I think this offense explodes in 2012 with a full offseason and healthy bodies. Actually I'd buy low on everyone in the Oakland offense...

I like Benn as well. I think Tampa upgrades WR core, but I think Mike Williams (if he doesn't learn how to run a route besides the fade) won't be starting much longer.

 

[EBF]

I took a punt on David Gettis and Clyde Gates in my most recent startup. Gettis has the height/speed/strength combo needed to be a #1. His pure receiving skills are a bit of a question mark, but he had a lot of yards in his rookie year. With Steve Smith nearing the end of his prime, there will be opportunity for someone to step up and become the new #1 target there.

As for Gates, I think he's more of a longshot, but he has speed that you can't teach. He had a very quiet rookie year, but that's not a shocker considering that he was a 4th round pick out of a very weak collegiate league. With a year of learning under his belt, maybe he can start to make an impact.

 

[loose circuits]

Does Golden Tate belong on this list? He looked good when given an opportunity...problem is Baldwin came on in a big way

 

[B. Nugget]

I just acquired David Nelson, anyone like him long term or is he just one of many similar talents competing for catches in Buffalo?

 

[ClownDogs]

I just acquired David Nelson, anyone like him long term or is he just one of many similar talents competing for catches in Buffalo?

Guys i consider 'cheap' and just acquired in a 16 team league for M.Dareus(who will be a DT) and a 2013 4th are Aromashodu and Pettis. With only Harvin ahead of him on the vikings team, maybe Aromashodu can do a B.Lloyd type breakout later in his career. I still remember reading somewhere 2 years ago where R.Wayne said he has sick skills and should be a top notch WR. As for Pettis, still somewhat of a longshot, but just wasn't suited for the slot where he was put at times last year with the injuries piling up for the Rams. With Amendola and Salas back, not being a believer in Alexander, Lloyd gone, Clayton hurt back to back years, there is at least a shot for him to produce if he can stay clean and pass the drug tests.And if neither turn out to be anything at all, all i gave up was a DT and a 4th round pick that is over a year away, worth the risk for a rebuild team in major need of WR's.

 

[loose circuits]

I just acquired David Nelson, anyone like him long term or is he just one of many similar talents competing for catches in Buffalo?

Guys i consider 'cheap' and just acquired in a 16 team league for M.Dareus(who will be a DT) and a 2013 4th are Aromashodu and Pettis.

With only Harvin ahead of him on the vikings team, maybe Aromashodu can do a B.Lloyd type breakout later in his career. I still remember reading somewhere 2 years ago where R.Wayne said he has sick skills and should be a top notch WR.

As for Pettis, still somewhat of a longshot, but just wasn't suited for the slot where he was put at times last year with the injuries piling up for the Rams. With Amendola and Salas back, not being a believer in Alexander, Lloyd gone, Clayton hurt back to back years, there is at least a shot for him to produce if he can stay clean and pass the drug tests.

And if neither turn out to be anything at all, all i gave up was a DT and a 4th round pick that is over a year away, worth the risk for a rebuild team in major need of WR's.

I once was a believer in Aroma, but I'm not any more.

Devin Aromashodu (D+): Signed to a one-year contract after five forgettable seasons with Indianapolis and Chicago, Aromashodu played extensively after Berrian's release and didn't do much with the opportunity. Played in all 16 games, starting six and totaling 676 snaps (65.1%). Made a diving 34-yard touchdown catch at Kansas City that contributed to an expansion of his role. Finished with 468 yards on 26 catches (18.0 average) in 78 targets (33.3%) -- the lowest percentage of any NFL receiver who played at least one-third of his team's offensive snaps. Dropped five passes. Turned the corner for a 60-yard catch and run against Arizona. Had one huge game against Denver (six catches, 90 yards) but otherwise showed minimal ability to get open against man coverage. Always competed as a blocker. Took one special-teams penalty for running out of bounds. Had two solo tackles on coverage units. If Aromashodu returns, it should be on a minimum deal in competition for no more than the fourth receiver spot.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/2011_Vikings_Review_Percy_Harvin_earns_highest_grade_on_offense013112?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+1500espn%2Fsportswire%2Fvikings+%281

 

[Eminence]

Flynn could make Bess fantasy viable.

 

[menobrown]

Does Golden Tate belong on this list? He looked good when given an opportunity...problem is Baldwin came on in a big way

Good question and I wondered why neither Tate or Baldwin were on the initial list or mentioned until now.

 

[loose circuits]

Does Golden Tate belong on this list? He looked good when given an opportunity...problem is Baldwin came on in a big way

Good question and I wondered why neither Tate or Baldwin were on the initial list or mentioned until now.

Baldwin isn't cheap. Tate was an oversight

 

[menobrown]

Does Golden Tate belong on this list? He looked good when given an opportunity...problem is Baldwin came on in a big way

Good question and I wondered why neither Tate or Baldwin were on the initial list or mentioned until now.

Baldwin isn't cheap. Tate was an oversight

No big deal but I don't agree with Baldwin being any more expensive than a few players that jumped out at me from your original list. I think Ford, Moore and Hankerson are arguably as or more expensive than Baldwin. If you looked at Dynasty rankings from various websites more often than not on every ranking 2 or 3 of those players are ranked higher than Baldwin.

 

[jeter23]

Does Golden Tate belong on this list? He looked good when given an opportunity...problem is Baldwin came on in a big way

Good question and I wondered why neither Tate or Baldwin were on the initial list or mentioned until now.

Baldwin isn't cheap. Tate was an oversight

No big deal but I don't agree with Baldwin being any more expensive than a few players that jumped out at me from your original list. I think Ford, Moore and Hankerson are arguably as or more expensive than Baldwin. If you looked at Dynasty rankings from various websites more often than not on every ranking 2 or 3 of those players are ranked higher than Baldwin.

I agree. I think the easiest way to judge value this time of year is by looking at startup draft ADP. Here it is for the 4 players you mentioned...Moore 74Hankerson 124Ford 145Baldwin 148

 

[loose circuits]

i offered 2.05 for Baldwin and was turned down with a response that I wasn't close in value

 

[_lurker_]

i offered 2.05 for Baldwin and was turned down with a response that I wasn't close in value

Where was he drafted last year, in your league? I assume before the 2.05, so why, considering the time-value, would 2.05 be remotely enough?

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

He is probably talking about Doug Baldwin, not Jonathan Baldwin.

 

[Couch Potato]

i offered 2.05 for Baldwin and was turned down with a response that I wasn't close in value

Where was he drafted last year, in your league? I assume before the 2.05, so why, considering the time-value, would 2.05 be remotely enough?

I think you're getting the Baldwins confused. The Baldwin discussed upthread is Baldwin SEA, and to have been taken last year prior to 2.05 you must be talking about Baldwin KC. Baldwin SEA was an undrafted FA and a complete surprise to have produced the way he did.

 

[Couch Potato]

I see Lott's Fingertip beat me to the punch as I was typing.

 

[Xue]

Of the OAK WRs, I'm taking Ford over Moore. If any player in football, college or pro, deserves a Steve Smith comparison, it's Ford.

The new Oakland regime is WCO, though, which Palmer doesn't fit. He's not a rhythm/anticipation thrower.

 

[yankdog]

Of the OAK WRs, I'm taking Ford over Moore. If any player in football, college or pro, deserves a Steve Smith comparison, it's Ford.The new Oakland regime is WCO, though, which Palmer doesn't fit. He's not a rhythm/anticipation thrower.

I am not as high on Moore either, although I'd take him for the right price. The Oakland situation worries me with all the changes in coaching, QB, obvious internal changes in evaluation of their own WRs, and now a change in offensive philosophy very likely. I am treating the whole Raider situation as an "Avoid" for now if I can get rid of DHB in one of my leagues. I just don't feel good about them now at all.

 

[yankdog]

What about Vincent Brown - SD?

 

[msommer]

Greg Salas STL, Damian WIlliams TEN are interesting possibilities

 

[yankdog]

Greg Salas STL, Damian WIlliams TEN are interesting possibilities

Williams is intriguing. But I am concerned that when Britt comes back, if Cook continues to improve, with an unsettled look at QB (we don't know how good Locker will be) that the offense may not have enough to make Williams very useful. Having said that, I'd say he's worth a stash is you have room. I could be way off on this one but its hard for me to evaluate Williams.

 

[BeTheMatch]

What about Vincent Brown - SD?

I like him too. Tried getting him in a few leagues with no luck, not that I was offering up a ton for anything. But I definitely couldn't "steal" him.

 

[rct]

i offered 2.05 for Baldwin and was turned down with a response that I wasn't close in value

No you weren't if it was Jon Baldwin, borderline insulting offer IMO.

 

[eaglesfan7]

2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.

 

[jeter23]

What about Vincent Brown - SD?

Not cheap, from what I have found. ADP is 124, the same as Hankerson, Collie, Boldin and Decker.

 

[placebo]

I think LeStar Jean becomes really interesting if the Texans don't use an early draft choice on a WR or bring in a significant FA. Which wouldn't be all that surprising considering how they operate. He was #4 on the depth chart before getting injured and Kevin Walter and Jacoby Jones (likely a cut) wouldn't be tough to leapfrog.

Also I think the winner of the Amendola/Salas sweepstakes will be pretty valuable if Bradford lives up to his draft stock and it doesn't seem like it would take a lot to acquire either. I'm leaning towards Amendola since he's performed for a whole season.

 

[loose circuits]

i offered 2.05 for Baldwin and was turned down with a response that I wasn't close in value

No you weren't if it was Jon Baldwin, borderline insulting offer IMO.

Do you have literacy issues? We were talking about the Seahawks in the post right above that one

 

[cstu]

What about Vincent Brown - SD?

Not cheap, from what I have found. ADP is 124, the same as Hankerson, Collie, Boldin and Decker.

Owners have an early to middle 2nd invested in Brown and his outlook was 2-3 years down the road (post-Gates and possibly VJax) from the start. He's done nothing to lower his value IMO.

 

[cstu]

Greg Salas STL, Damian WIlliams TEN are interesting possibilities

Williams is intriguing. But I am concerned that when Britt comes back, if Cook continues to improve, with an unsettled look at QB (we don't know how good Locker will be) that the offense may not have enough to make Williams very useful. Having said that, I'd say he's worth a stash is you have room. I could be way off on this one but its hard for me to evaluate Williams.

At best I think Williams will be the 4th option in the offense so it will limit his upside. He's a talented guy but he has a pretty low ceiling.

 

[jeter23]

What about Vincent Brown - SD?

Not cheap, from what I have found. ADP is 124, the same as Hankerson, Collie, Boldin and Decker.

Owners have an early to middle 2nd invested in Brown and his outlook was 2-3 years down the road (post-Gates and possibly VJax) from the start. He's done nothing to lower his value IMO.

I agree. I was saying he was not cheap. I don't really think he should be. I would need a late 1st to move him.

 

[Zimm]

I think Doug Baldwin fits in here

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Assuming that at least one of Colston and Meachem leaves the Saints, Adrian Arrington is in line for a nice role as the possession receiver.

If by some chance both Colston and Meachem leave I think Arrington would be an instantly productive receiver along the lines of what Colston was able to do early in his career, but Arrington is quicker, more polished and has way more experience than Colston did at the time.

 

[MAC_32]

When I'm looking at fliers I'm looking at guys that could be top 10-15 guys, I don't want guys that at best will be decent #3's. That's these guys, listed them in order.

Titus Young

Randall Cobb

David Gettis

Andre Roberts

Jacoby Ford

Denarius Moore

Marcus Easley

Clyde Gates

Adrian Arrington

The Oakland guys and Roberts probably cost more so I'm more interested in Gettis, Easley, and Gates. I think Vincent Brown and Hankerson will cost more than at least Gettis, Easley, and Gates. Brown's got a higher floor, but lower ceiling. I don't trust Hankerson anymore than the others so I'm satisfied with them. I'd try to get Titus Young and Randall Cobb though, love them.

 

[EBF]

Gates can really fly. He's very old for a 2nd year player and he didn't do anything as a rookie, but man...you can't teach this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKiLhalktVI

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

When I'm looking at fliers I'm looking at guys that could be top 10-15 guys, I don't want guys that at best will be decent #3's. That's these guys, listed them in order. Titus YoungRandall CobbDavid GettisAndre RobertsJacoby FordDenarius MooreMarcus EasleyClyde GatesAdrian ArringtonThe Oakland guys and Roberts probably cost more so I'm more interested in Gettis, Easley, and Gates. I think Vincent Brown and Hankerson will cost more than at least Gettis, Easley, and Gates. Brown's got a higher floor, but lower ceiling. I don't trust Hankerson anymore than the others so I'm satisfied with them. I'd try to get Titus Young and Randall Cobb though, love them.

I like your list. (Especially Young/Cobb/Ford/Moore/Arrington)JMO I don't see Roberts costing much. (There's actually quite a bit of talk locally of signing someone as an upgrade -- Wayne (package with Manning) or a Braylon Edwards/Moss as a deep guy. Doucet outproduced Roberts last year. Roberts could still be a player -- I actually think now's the time to get him cheap if you believe in his talent.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Gates can really fly. He's very old for a 2nd year player and he didn't do anything as a rookie, but man...you can't teach this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKiLhalktVI

I don't know if I've ever seen one clip that showcases someone's speed quite like that. Wow

 

[msommer]

Greg Salas STL, Damian WIlliams TEN are interesting possibilities

Williams is intriguing. But I am concerned that when Britt comes back, if Cook continues to improve, with an unsettled look at QB (we don't know how good Locker will be) that the offense may not have enough to make Williams very useful. Having said that, I'd say he's worth a stash is you have room. I could be way off on this one but its hard for me to evaluate Williams.

At best I think Williams will be the 4th option in the offense so it will limit his upside. He's a talented guy but he has a pretty low ceiling.

Ah, the Jared Cook monster rears it's head. I've come to the possibly premature conclusion that he is a tease. I hope I am wrong.

 

[saintfool]

Assuming that at least one of Colston and Meachem leaves the Saints, Adrian Arrington is in line for a nice role as the possession receiver.If by some chance both Colston and Meachem leave I think Arrington would be an instantly productive receiver along the lines of what Colston was able to do early in his career, but Arrington is quicker, more polished and has way more experience than Colston did at the time.

well, he's had what 3-4 years to get a grip of the playbook. i like arrington but the saints WR position is a bit of a mess right now. once some decisions are made, the roles for everyone should be more clearly defined. one thing for certain is graham is #1 target.

 

[Banemorth]

Ted Ginn Jr?

 

[zed2283]

What about Early Doucet? Had a pretty nice season.

 

[az_prof]

Gates can really fly. He's very old for a 2nd year player and he didn't do anything as a rookie, but man...you can't teach this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKiLhalktVI

Isn't Gates an OLD guy for a second year player? I thought he was a 25 year old rookie. If I recall correctly then I am not optimistic at all because when a guy that mature doesn't do anything as rookie it seems like a bad sign. If he were 20 that would be different because you expect a 20 year to improve alot of the next three or four years.