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Gates can really fly. He's very old for a 2nd year player and he didn't do anything as a rookie, but man...you can't teach this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKiLhalktVI
Isn't Gates an OLD guy for a second year player? I thought he was a 25 year old rookie. If I recall correctly then I am not optimistic at all because when a guy that mature doesn't do anything as rookie it seems like a bad sign. If he were 20 that would be different because you expect a 20 year to improve alot of the next three or four years.
what is your definition of 'mature'? Just age? the guy came out of a DII schools and all reports indicated he needed work. He didn't have an off season to work with NFL coaches yet you expected him to be able to overcome? I think that is a lot to ask. His brighter days are ahead
 
Of the OAK WRs, I'm taking Ford over Moore. If any player in football, college or pro, deserves a Steve Smith comparison, it's Ford.The new Oakland regime is WCO, though, which Palmer doesn't fit. He's not a rhythm/anticipation thrower.
I am not as high on Moore either, although I'd take him for the right price. The Oakland situation worries me with all the changes in coaching, QB, obvious internal changes in evaluation of their own WRs, and now a change in offensive philosophy very likely. I am treating the whole Raider situation as an "Avoid" for now if I can get rid of DHB in one of my leagues. I just don't feel good about them now at all.
If you're willing to be patient, DHB will be a 27 yo UFA in 2014 who should be more developed than he is right now. I'm not a fan his situation on Oakland but the thing I've loved about DHB is his work ethic and I think he can be a special player. I doubt his value is going to get any lower than it is right now.
 
Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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I thought about this the other day as well CP. Also is Gonzalez still a potential factor with Indy? What a mess that squad is going to be this next year.
 
Riley Cooper should be in this list as well. Who knows what will happend in Philly next year with Jackson. Cooper looked good last season when he was on the field.

 
Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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I thought about this the other day as well CP. Also is Gonzalez still a potential factor with Indy? What a mess that squad is going to be this next year.
Anthony Gonzalez is also a UFA and there have been no indications the Colts are interested in re-signing him. He entered the league as a 1st rounder for them and for the most part has been useless, mostly due to injury after injury.
 
If you're willing to be patient, DHB will be a 27 yo UFA in 2014 who should be more developed than he is right now. I'm not a fan his situation on Oakland but the thing I've loved about DHB is his work ethic and I think he can be a special player. I doubt his value is going to get any lower than it is right now.
It was much much lower last offseason. You could have got him for absolutely nothing. (I actually think he hit the WW in one league of mine)He showed he could play (for the first time) in 2011. He was on fire right before Carson came to town, had a lull because they ominously kept him off the field in favor of Housh & Schillens during the middle part of the year. He picked it up again later in the year when they realized Housh/Schillens are garbage.
 
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If you're willing to be patient, DHB will be a 27 yo UFA in 2014 who should be more developed than he is right now. I'm not a fan his situation on Oakland but the thing I've loved about DHB is his work ethic and I think he can be a special player. I doubt his value is going to get any lower than it is right now.
It was much much lower last offseason. You could have got him for absolutely nothing. (I actually think he hit the WW in one league of mine)He showed he could play (for the first time) in 2011. He was on fire right before Carson came to town, had a lull because they ominously kept him off the field in favor of Housh & Schillens during the middle part of the year. He picked it up again later in the year when they realized Housh/Schillens are garbage.
I'm liking DHB a lot -- his value is higher than last year of course, but it seems like many still don't believe in him, so I've been picking him up for relatively cheap wherever I can. Got him for the Davone Bess and the 2.11 in one league, and I was happy paying that. cstu hit on one of my favorite things about DHB -- he works very, very hard. So he showed a ton of improvement last season, and I expect him to show even more improvement going forward.
 
Has anyone mentioned Blair White (IND)? What's the concensus on him? Luck has to throw the ball to someone. He's 25 years old, 3rd year in the league. He put up 350+ yards and 5 TDs on 36 catches (targeted 57 times for a 63% completion rate) in 2010 when Indy's marquee players were still present and for the most part healthy & effective. He was injured last year so didn't play, but it looked like he was off to a good start.

White finished tops among wide receivers in the 20-yard shuttle, completing the drill in 4.03 seconds. He finished second in his position group in the 60-yard shuttle at 11.07. He was third among wide receivers in the three-cone drill (6.69 seconds). White also ran a 4.50 40-yard dash (4.40 at his pro day).
Head coach Mark Dantonio was on hand to watch his players (at Pro Day), and he said he has nothing but good things to tell scouts about White.“(He is) very focused. He demands excellence of himself, which I think is huge,” Dantonio said of White. “He’s a self-starter. (He has) all the intangible things. He’s got great skills, and he’s made himself into a tremendous wide receiver. He’s very confident. He didn’t drop one (pass in position drills). His cuts were solid; he ran under a 4.5 on six different watches numerous times.”
Indy homers? Anyone else? What's your take?
 
Has anyone mentioned Blair White (IND)? What's the concensus on him? Luck has to throw the ball to someone. He's 25 years old, 3rd year in the league. He put up 350+ yards and 5 TDs on 36 catches (targeted 57 times for a 63% completion rate) in 2010 when Indy's marquee players were still present and for the most part healthy & effective. He was injured last year so didn't play, but it looked like he was off to a good start.

White finished tops among wide receivers in the 20-yard shuttle, completing the drill in 4.03 seconds. He finished second in his position group in the 60-yard shuttle at 11.07. He was third among wide receivers in the three-cone drill (6.69 seconds). White also ran a 4.50 40-yard dash (4.40 at his pro day).
Head coach Mark Dantonio was on hand to watch his players (at Pro Day), and he said he has nothing but good things to tell scouts about White.“(He is) very focused. He demands excellence of himself, which I think is huge,” Dantonio said of White. “He’s a self-starter. (He has) all the intangible things. He’s got great skills, and he’s made himself into a tremendous wide receiver. He’s very confident. He didn’t drop one (pass in position drills). His cuts were solid; he ran under a 4.5 on six different watches numerous times.”
Indy homers? Anyone else? What's your take?
Not an Indy homer, but I can't get that excited about White. He was Collie's backup and was adequate in that respect but nothing spectacular IIRC. Unless Collie is moved from the slot position (or is injured) I doubt White will see the field. Plus he is recovering from offseason surgery on a disc in his back, which would also cause me to pause from taking him off the waiver wire (where is available in all my leagues).
 
where are you guys getting this back injury information from Blair White? If anything that was last season he missed the 1st half and came back week 8 only to injure his knee which is why he was placed on IR. I am pretty sure he'll be fully healthy and I definitely overlooked him for this list as I even have him on one roster...should be an interesting guy as he could be drafted in some leagues rookie drafts if they mix vets in (assuming he isn't rostered)

 
where are you guys getting this back injury information from Blair White? If anything that was last season he missed the 1st half and came back week 8 only to injure his knee which is why he was placed on IR. I am pretty sure he'll be fully healthy and I definitely overlooked him for this list as I even have him on one roster...should be an interesting guy as he could be drafted in some leagues rookie drafts if they mix vets in (assuming he isn't rostered)
Google is your friend. http://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/03/blair_white_rehabs_from_back_s.html
Blair White rehabs from back surgery after difficult Indianapolis Colts season

INDIANAPOLIS – Former Nouvel Catholic Central star Blair White had a 2010 season to remember.

Unfortunately, his 2011 season was one to forget, much like most of the Indianapolis Colts' season.

White didn't catch a pass in 2011 and spent the final seven games on injured reserve after he was unable to play because of a recurring back injury.

As an undrafted rookie out of Michigan State, White played in 13 games for the Colts in 2010 and started four. He caught 36 passes for 355 yards and five touchdowns.

But a back injury that caused White to go undrafted flared up prior to the 2011 training camp. White tried to work through the pain, but eventually had surgery to repair the damaged disc.

White is still rehabbing and hopes to be ready by the time the spring camps begin.
 
where are you guys getting this back injury information from Blair White? If anything that was last season he missed the 1st half and came back week 8 only to injure his knee which is why he was placed on IR. I am pretty sure he'll be fully healthy and I definitely overlooked him for this list as I even have him on one roster...should be an interesting guy as he could be drafted in some leagues rookie drafts if they mix vets in (assuming he isn't rostered)
Google is your friend. http://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/03/blair_white_rehabs_from_back_s.html
Blair White rehabs from back surgery after difficult Indianapolis Colts season

INDIANAPOLIS – Former Nouvel Catholic Central star Blair White had a 2010 season to remember.

Unfortunately, his 2011 season was one to forget, much like most of the Indianapolis Colts' season.

White didn't catch a pass in 2011 and spent the final seven games on injured reserve after he was unable to play because of a recurring back injury.

As an undrafted rookie out of Michigan State, White played in 13 games for the Colts in 2010 and started four. He caught 36 passes for 355 yards and five touchdowns.

But a back injury that caused White to go undrafted flared up prior to the 2011 training camp. White tried to work through the pain, but eventually had surgery to repair the damaged disc.

White is still rehabbing and hopes to be ready by the time the spring camps begin.
thanks, I tried google and found http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5859/blair-whitehttp://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2011/11/blair_whites_season_ends_as_in.html

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/players/playerpage/1243764/blair-white

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/colts_wr_blair_white_lands_on_injured_reserve/8047456

etc...

They all kept talking about a knee

Good news is that he thinks he'll be back when spring camp opens up. Right now he's the best they got on the outside...didn't some draftniks like Jarred Fayson last season?

 
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where are you guys getting this back injury information from Blair White? If anything that was last season he missed the 1st half and came back week 8 only to injure his knee which is why he was placed on IR. I am pretty sure he'll be fully healthy and I definitely overlooked him for this list as I even have him on one roster...should be an interesting guy as he could be drafted in some leagues rookie drafts if they mix vets in (assuming he isn't rostered)
Google is your friend. http://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/03/blair_white_rehabs_from_back_s.html
Blair White rehabs from back surgery after difficult Indianapolis Colts season

INDIANAPOLIS – Former Nouvel Catholic Central star Blair White had a 2010 season to remember.

Unfortunately, his 2011 season was one to forget, much like most of the Indianapolis Colts' season.

White didn't catch a pass in 2011 and spent the final seven games on injured reserve after he was unable to play because of a recurring back injury.

As an undrafted rookie out of Michigan State, White played in 13 games for the Colts in 2010 and started four. He caught 36 passes for 355 yards and five touchdowns.

But a back injury that caused White to go undrafted flared up prior to the 2011 training camp. White tried to work through the pain, but eventually had surgery to repair the damaged disc.

White is still rehabbing and hopes to be ready by the time the spring camps begin.
thanks, I tried google and found http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5859/blair-whitehttp://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2011/11/blair_whites_season_ends_as_in.html

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/players/playerpage/1243764/blair-white

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/colts_wr_blair_white_lands_on_injured_reserve/8047456

etc...

They all kept talking about a knee

Good news is that he thinks he'll be back when spring camp opens up. Right now he's the best they got on the outside...didn't some draftniks like Jarred Fayson last season?
Sorry, I guess out of habit that I just looked for the more recent player news and figured that other people do too :shrug: The link that I cited was the first google entry I found in a blair white search covering either the last week and/or the last month:https://www.google.com/search?client=gmail&rls=gm&q=blair%20white#q=blair+white&hl=en&client=gmail&tbo=1&rls=gm&prmdo=1&prmd=imvnso&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:m&sa=X&ei=AxBdT8GgPMWniQLfjJGLCw&ved=0CBcQpwUoBA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5bcca3627bd7e282&biw=784&bih=472

 
He's worth a flyer until we see what happens in the draft. I honestly don't think they'll go into next season with only Collie and White but it doesn't hurt to grab him if you have an extra roster spot.

 
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He's worth a flyer until we see what happens in the draft. I honestly don't think they'll go into next season with only Collie and White but it doesn't hurt to grab him if you have an extra roster spot.
By the way, another WR Polian added before he was fired that I'm a little bit interested in is UDFA Jeremy Ross. Ross should have been drafted by somebody last year IMO and is a pretty decent possession guy. If anyone is interested in researching I'm sure you'll find some good things said about him pre-draft last year. I looked into him at some point post-draft, I just don't feel like doing the digging again.
 
2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.
1st round NFL pick & he isn't a special talent? I guess your looking at different videos on youtube than i've seen.
 
I like Shorts & Hankerson who were mentioned before. Doucet is not on alot of radars & i like his chances to succeed wherever he is.

 
I like Shorts & Hankerson who were mentioned before. Doucet is not on alot of radars & i like his chances to succeed wherever he is.
Doucet has been rumored to go to NO. Would be a great landing spot for him, especially if Colston, Meachem or both leave.
 
2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.
1st round NFL pick & he isn't a special talent? I guess your looking at different videos on youtube than i've seen.
Youtube? Lol, that's not how you scout players. What round was Ryan Leaf drafted in? I can name hundreds of players that were drafted in the first round and did nothing. What does that have to do with anything?
 
2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.
1st round NFL pick & he isn't a special talent? I guess your looking at different videos on youtube than i've seen.
Youtube? Lol, that's not how you scout players. What round was Ryan Leaf drafted in? I can name hundreds of players that were drafted in the first round and did nothing. What does that have to do with anything?
Ryan Leaf was a special talent - he just didn't have the mental makeup to succeed. Most 1st round picks have the physical talent. Baldin is a talented guy, but he may not have it between the ears. We'll find out.
 
He's worth a flyer until we see what happens in the draft. I honestly don't think they'll go into next season with only Collie and White but it doesn't hurt to grab him if you have an extra roster spot.
By the way, another WR Polian added before he was fired that I'm a little bit interested in is UDFA Jeremy Ross. Ross should have been drafted by somebody last year IMO and is a pretty decent possession guy. If anyone is interested in researching I'm sure you'll find some good things said about him pre-draft last year. I looked into him at some point post-draft, I just don't feel like doing the digging again.
I remember reading about him and his hands were the biggest question mark at Cal. Hugely talented guy ala Ted Ginn. I assume he's going to be the Colt's KR this year? Seems like a good pick up to wait to see if he develops into a slot guy.
 
Evening with Reggie Wayne signing, I still picked up Blair White across leagues. He was available in all of them. My thoughts are that Wayne had trouble gaining separation last year (age or lack of effort...not sure.) Collie is an injury risk for the rest of his career. I'm still thinking the Colts bring in some more WR depth, but I think White has the talent to be a WR3 for the team. Worth a flier IMO for no cost to hold him through camp.

 
If Seattle can get a QB who throws a nice deep ball I like Ricardo Lockette (runs a 4.37). He's raw but IMO he has more upside than any other WR on that roster right now.

 
2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.
1st round NFL pick & he isn't a special talent? I guess your looking at different videos on youtube than i've seen.
Youtube? Lol, that's not how you scout players. What round was Ryan Leaf drafted in? I can name hundreds of players that were drafted in the first round and did nothing. What does that have to do with anything?
How do YOU scout players?
 
2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.
1st round NFL pick & he isn't a special talent? I guess your looking at different videos on youtube than i've seen.
Youtube? Lol, that's not how you scout players. What round was Ryan Leaf drafted in? I can name hundreds of players that were drafted in the first round and did nothing. What does that have to do with anything?
How do YOU scout players?
Watch games, read write up's. Seems to work well.
 
Not sure how cheap but Emmanuel Sanders will have a "break out" season :homer:

 
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If Seattle can get a QB who throws a nice deep ball I like Ricardo Lockette (runs a 4.37). He's raw but IMO he has more upside than any other WR on that roster right now.
Sidney Rice, Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate, and Kris Durham disagree with that statement
 
2.05 for Jonathan Baldwin is NOT an insult. The guy isn't a special talent, he just looks and acts like TO off the field.
1st round NFL pick & he isn't a special talent? I guess your looking at different videos on youtube than i've seen.
Youtube? Lol, that's not how you scout players. What round was Ryan Leaf drafted in? I can name hundreds of players that were drafted in the first round and did nothing. What does that have to do with anything?
How do YOU scout players?
There is more than just highlights on Youtube: http://youtu.be/NonhyHSah-Y
 
He's worth a flyer until we see what happens in the draft. I honestly don't think they'll go into next season with only Collie and White but it doesn't hurt to grab him if you have an extra roster spot.
By the way, another WR Polian added before he was fired that I'm a little bit interested in is UDFA Jeremy Ross. Ross should have been drafted by somebody last year IMO and is a pretty decent possession guy. If anyone is interested in researching I'm sure you'll find some good things said about him pre-draft last year. I looked into him at some point post-draft, I just don't feel like doing the digging again.
I remember reading about him and his hands were the biggest question mark at Cal. Hugely talented guy ala Ted Ginn. I assume he's going to be the Colt's KR this year? Seems like a good pick up to wait to see if he develops into a slot guy.
Nice call on Ross. They also have Jarred Fayson on the roster. He's very similar to Ross (size / speed) and may actually be a little faster. In my opinion, he's a little more polished as well.
 
Not sure how cheap but Emmanuel Sanders will have a "break out" season :homer:
If Wallace stays, who will Sanders replace to have his breakout? It's highly unlikely there will be 3 WRs with 1,000 yds, so if Sanders is going to have a very good year it will probably come at the expense of someone else.
 
Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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Colts release wide receiver Blair White. :kicksrock:
 
Grabbing the pair of Donald jones and Marcus Easley looks like it could pay dividends with buffalo being content with what they have at the position.

 
Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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Colts release wide receiver Blair White. :kicksrock:
So a slow slot guy out there on the WW.I'll pass.

 
Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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Colts release wide receiver Blair White. :kicksrock:
So a slow slot guy out there on the WW.I'll pass.
not sure how 4.5 40 & 6.68 3 cone is considered slow?
 
Deeper dynasty leagues? Here's a flier for ya... Blair White IND. Not owned in any of my 12 dynasty leagues, a pretty good measure that he's indeed deeeeep. But, with Wayne and probably Garcon not returning, TE Clark cut, only Collie remains among regulars. And Collie's a slot guy. Both outside spots will need to be filled, and Luck is hopefully going to be a good QB once he develops.

White was 36-355-5 in part time duty in 2010 as a rookie but had no stats in 2011 due to a back problem and landed on IR. Caveat is he's still working his way back and not 100% yet. But if he can be healthy for training camp, depending on who else they bring in this offseason maybe he can earn one of the outside starting spots?

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Colts release wide receiver Blair White. :kicksrock:
So a slow slot guy out there on the WW.I'll pass.
not sure how 4.5 40 & 6.68 3 cone is considered slow?
from NFL.com:WEAKNESSES White is a step slow off the line and does not have the top-end speed to stretch the field. Keeps his hips too high and loses speed coming out of breaks which limits his ability to get separation in man coverage. Occasionally lets the ball get in too close to his body neutralizing his strong hands.

http://www.nfl.com/c...white?id=497334

About what I saw when watching him play with the Colts.

Peyton made a lot of very average players look much better than they were.

ETA I suppose if he signed with a team with a great QB (Denver, NE, NO, Detroit, SD, etc) then he could be worth something.

Will add that in the ultra-competitive FF leagues I'm in that have FCFS waivers, he hasn't been picked up by anyone.

 
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