chester taylor ? (1 Viewer)

[cantstop1999]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

 

[Loan Sharks]

As a lifelong Vikings fan, I predict a long and painful season for all concerned.

 

[cantstop1999]

As a lifelong Vikings fan, I predict a long and painful season for all concerned.

aside of b.johnson not being the best qb where is the big problem?

 

[Tom Servo]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

You might, rabbit, you might...Solid RB2, though.

 

[vikingdave]

Chester will molest the defenses, grab him if you can

 

[PatsWillWin]

Possible hangover from a couple years of frustratingly inconsistant and useless fantasy RB's in Minnesota.

 

[Sabertooth]

Minnesota has been scrubbed from top to bottom in the past few seasons so the Mike Tice hangover theory really holds no water for me. Chester seemed to be the most effective back in Baltimore last season on a per carry basis, I wonder what reason the Ravens had for keeping Jamal Lewis over him.

I like Minnesota's situation for a running back like Chester:

He's the guy that Childress hand picked. That says something to me and he was a quick signing too, brought in to start.

Mewelde Moore got a reputation as being wimpy. Don't know how true that was, but those inside the Vikings organization knew what they had in him and still made Chester a top priority.

 

[Tau837]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

If you mean this literally, you're projecting him for 320+ carries. Last season, only 8 RBs had that many. Even if he is the guy, I think 260 carries (~16 per game) is more reasonable... especially for a guy who has never had more than 160 in a season before.That would yield around 1100 yards or so. As for your TD projection of 10, keep in mind Taylor has scored a grand total of 7 TDs in 478 career touches (rushing & receiving), with only 4 of those rushing. Granted, he has never been featured... but I think 10 is a bit high.

I'd say 260/1100/6 rushing and 45/300/1 receiving looks like the upside for him. Downside would be RBBC with Moore et al and/or injury... much lower numbers. Preseason should help us with this situation.

 

[Z-Dog]

I love how Chester Taylor plays football. He's tough and versatile, and reminds me a lot of Lamont Jordan. Baltimore wanted to keep him, but couldn't give him the money that the Vikings offered.

A note of caution - MIN has lots of RBs, and it's not clear exactly how many carries Taylor will get. I've got him conservatively penciled in for 250 carries and about 40 catches. I expect about 1300-1400 total yards on something like 4.2-4.3 ypc and about 7 ypr. TDs are notoriously hard to pin down, but 7-10 seems like the range.

 

[cantstop1999]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

If you mean this literally, you're projecting him for 320+ carries. Last season, only 8 RBs had that many. Even if he is the guy, I think 260 carries (~16 per game) is more reasonable... especially for a guy who has never had more than 160 in a season before.That would yield around 1100 yards or so. As for your TD projection of 10, keep in mind Taylor has scored a grand total of 7 TDs in 478 career touches (rushing & receiving), with only 4 of those rushing. Granted, he has never been featured... but I think 10 is a bit high.

I'd say 260/1100/6 rushing and 45/300/1 receiving looks like the upside for him. Downside would be RBBC with Moore et al and/or injury... much lower numbers. Preseason should help us with this situation.

i think your another one playing it safe. they gave him too much money to not be featured. he will have 20 touches a game and 10 tds is more like it with a chance for more.

 

[broncofan13000]

A note of caution - MIN has lots of RBs, and it's not clear exactly how many carries Taylor will get.

The don't seem to have that many RB's. Moe, O.Smith, and Bennett are all gone. Moore and Fason are the only two left, and Fason has been garbage imho.edit: someone mentioned in another CT thread that with Krob concentrating less on returns, Moore probably will be the special teams guy; that would be a good thing for Chester.

 

[MLBrandow]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

A lot of 3rd down backs look good.... Of course he'll be a half-step faster than the defense when Jamal Lewis is pounding them all game.I'm looking at his stat splits and I could rip him apart and explain to you why he's a very poor choice for a starting RB, but he's not underrated or overrated at all. And that leads me to believe that everyone already knows and agrees he isn't going to be any good this season.

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability? I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

Where he's being drafted right now as RB19 ahead of Droughns, Dunn, McAllister and several other solid RBs is a joke.

And the joke is on people like you, my friend.

Sorry. Don't by the hype up in the 'Sota (if there is any).

 

[isuvike]

I like him, especially in PPR leagues. I'll be thrilled if I can pick him up as my RB3, but I'm not sure how excited I would be to have him as an RB2.

All of the past RB woes out of MN fantasy-football-wise have been because of Tice. He's gone (so are SOD and Bennett), and hopefully, so is the RBBC.

 

[Loan Sharks]

As a lifelong Vikings fan, I predict a long and painful season for all concerned.

aside of b.johnson not being the best qb where is the big problem?

I think they may o line issues. I have no faith in the receivers. People are very high on Robinson. It is my opinion that he is very much overated.

I think that the WR corp with not scare anyone with BJ throwing the ball.

There have been comments about the conditioning of Taylor.

New coach.

I think the combination of the oline condition, new coach, substandard wr corp, rbbc, and condition issues may spell disaster for my Vikings.

Just my opinion hope I am wrong

 

[broncofan13000]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

A lot of 3rd down backs look good.... Of course he'll be a half-step faster than the defense when Jamal Lewis is pounding them all game.I'm looking at his stat splits and I could rip him apart and explain to you why he's a very poor choice for a starting RB, but he's not underrated or overrated at all. And that leads me to believe that everyone already knows and agrees he isn't going to be any good this season.

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability? I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

Where he's being drafted right now as RB19 ahead of Droughns, Dunn, McAllister and several other solid RBs is a joke.

And the joke is on people like you, my friend.

Sorry. Don't by the hype up in the 'Sota (if there is any).

You would choose Deuce over Chester? I would be more comfortable with Chester then Deuce as my RB2 or RB3.

 

[MLBrandow]

You would choose Deuce over Chester? I would be more comfortable with Chester then Deuce as my RB2 or RB3.

Sorry to hear that.Deuce's floor (assuming he's recovered, which he may not be) is about where I expect Taylor's ceiling.

And when you're drafting RB3's, you draft (well at least I do), on highest potential with a good floor.

 

[cantstop1999]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

A lot of 3rd down backs look good.... Of course he'll be a half-step faster than the defense when Jamal Lewis is pounding them all game.I'm looking at his stat splits and I could rip him apart and explain to you why he's a very poor choice for a starting RB, but he's not underrated or overrated at all. And that leads me to believe that everyone already knows and agrees he isn't going to be any good this season.

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability? I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

Where he's being drafted right now as RB19 ahead of Droughns, Dunn, McAllister and several other solid RBs is a joke.

And the joke is on people like you, my friend.

Sorry. Don't by the hype up in the 'Sota (if there is any).

You would choose Deuce over Chester? I would be more comfortable with Chester then Deuce as my RB2 or RB3.

well we are all entitled to our own opintions and boy yours is way offfffff.

 

[broncofan13000]

You would choose Deuce over Chester? I would be more comfortable with Chester then Deuce as my RB2 or RB3.

Sorry to hear that

Deuce is coming off a torn ACL and is guaranteed to share carries with Bush. Chester has the oppurtunity to be the man in Minnesota. I doubt i'm the only one that feels this way.

 

[kaso]

You would choose Deuce over Chester? I would be more comfortable with Chester then Deuce as my RB2 or RB3.

Sorry to hear that

Deuce is coming off a torn ACL and is guaranteed to share carries with Bush. Chester has the oppurtunity to be the man in Minnesota. I doubt i'm the only one that feels this way.

You can mark my name on the list of those who like Taylor as a RB2 (in a PPR league). I think he is going to have a good year this year, not great, or record breaking. But a good year that will turn into good FPs for me and the others who draft him this year.I got Taylor at 4.03, and I am very happy with that selection. (And in that league McAllister didn't go until 5.07)

 

[snarfsnarf]

I'm not a super Chester Taylor supporter, but Taylor >> McAllister. Especially when talking upside, what can McAllisters be with Bush in NO, RB3?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Brad Childress is the difference this year.

As OC in Philly, he put Westbrook in situations where he'd succeed and perform.

He'll do similar things with CTaylor this year.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Mewelde Moore's been very good when given the chance. Taylor certainly carries some risk that he'll be unplayable for your fantasy playoffs.

 

[MLBrandow]

Brad Childress is the difference this year.

As OC in Philly, he put Westbrook in situations where he'd succeed and perform.

He'll do similar things with CTaylor this year.

Childress as OC Childress as HC

If you're looking at Chester Taylor with "starting all season" in mind... I think "poor man's Michael Pittman"

And without straying off-topic about Deuce, you're forgetting that Bush will be half a receiver, and the other half a 3DB.

Back on topic though, how can you begin to rationalize his 3.07 ADP??

You'd be passing on a top tier WR in a year with a big hole between the goods and the okays.

Go look at his stat-lines.... if he was any good, those numbers would look a lot better as a 3DB.

a guy like LaMont Jordan or Thomas Jones going to a new team, they showed they were capable of being every-down solid backs.... Chester Taylor hasn't shown me anything... and looking at his splits after watching him so far in his career makes me think you dozen or so guys drinking the kool-aid are

 

[Tau837]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

If you mean this literally, you're projecting him for 320+ carries. Last season, only 8 RBs had that many. Even if he is the guy, I think 260 carries (~16 per game) is more reasonable... especially for a guy who has never had more than 160 in a season before.That would yield around 1100 yards or so. As for your TD projection of 10, keep in mind Taylor has scored a grand total of 7 TDs in 478 career touches (rushing & receiving), with only 4 of those rushing. Granted, he has never been featured... but I think 10 is a bit high.

I'd say 260/1100/6 rushing and 45/300/1 receiving looks like the upside for him. Downside would be RBBC with Moore et al and/or injury... much lower numbers. Preseason should help us with this situation.

i think your another one playing it safe. they gave him too much money to not be featured. he will have 20 touches a game and 10 tds is more like it with a chance for more.

Well now that you've switched from 20+ carries to 20+ touches, we're basically very close (I'm at ~19 touches per game) on that. Only 12 RBs had 10 or more rushing & receiving TDs last season, and I just don't see that from Taylor, but we can agree to disagree.Also, I think your "too much money" argument is flawed... there are probably 20 NFL RBs who have higher contracts and they won't all be getting 20+ touches and 10+ TDs.

 

[coachjim]

Chester will molest the defenses, grab him if you can

Is that in as Chester the Molestor.

 

[CA_7]

I think there is definitely the possibility that Chester could break into the top 15, maybe even top 10 in ppr.

He has never carried the load for an entire season. The guy has 4 career rushing TDs in 4 years...

Reports that he is out of shape are concerning, especially since their were rumblings that BAL was not happy with his work ethic the 2nd half of last year. IS this a chronic problem?

So is Chester going to become the next Lamont Jordan? Or the next Stacy Mack?

 

[softball]

Taylor seems very cheap these days. I think someone mentioned a Fantasy hangover from Minny players the last few years.

I think that's an excellent way to view him, he's wearing Purple so Fantasy players are laying off...

We love history when it supports our thoughts, and use it against ourselves even when opportunity knocks us over the head....

Chester is the starter on a team with the best offensive line in his confrence, has a HC who learned from someone who excells at getting the ball to his RBs in a creative way

and

plays in a division with two terrible defensive teams and has a schedule after the 1st three weeks that looks really nice.

 

[Tom Servo]

We love history when it supports our thoughts, and use it against ourselves even when opportunity knocks us over the head....

Remember the law of VBD and repeat after me: Don't love anyone. Don't hate anyone. Get players that will significantly outperform their draft position and you will build a winning team. 1



1 FBG magazine, page 108

 

[Warhogs]

In my start up dysnasty league Chester Taylot went 4.04 and Mewelde Moore went 14.08. I like Mewelde Moore in his draft spot much better.

 

[Big Score]

Mewelde Moore's been very good when given the chance healthy.

 

[Ned]

We love history when it supports our thoughts, and use it against ourselves even when opportunity knocks us over the head....

Remember the law of VBD and repeat after me: Don't love anyone. Don't hate anyone. Get players that will significantly outperform their draft position and you will build a winning team. 1



1 FBG magazine, page 108

 

[wannabee]

In my start up dysnasty league Chester Taylot went 4.04 and Mewelde Moore went 14.08. I like Mewelde Moore in his draft spot much better.

In a recent initial dynast draft (PPR), Taylor went mid-late 2nd round. Way too early for my taste.

 

[RavenFan]

everything ive seen has him really low. i mean come on am i the only one that sees the this guy will get 20+ carries and hutchison went there and t. richison.

if you ask me im putting him in the 1200-1300 rushing and a good 10tds maybe more. whats your take?

A lot of 3rd down backs look good.... Of course he'll be a half-step faster than the defense when Jamal Lewis is pounding them all game.I'm looking at his stat splits and I could rip him apart and explain to you why he's a very poor choice for a starting RB, but he's not underrated or overrated at all. And that leads me to believe that everyone already knows and agrees he isn't going to be any good this season.

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability? I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

Where he's being drafted right now as RB19 ahead of Droughns, Dunn, McAllister and several other solid RBs is a joke.

And the joke is on people like you, my friend.

Sorry. Don't by the hype up in the 'Sota (if there is any).

Have any of you folks doubting Chester ever even seen him play? I'm a Raven's season ticket holder and I can tell you with cetainty that he was a much better RB than Lewis last year. Don't give me that garbage about 3rd down carries or splits because Bmore hardly ever runs on 3rd down. Also, the Ravens had about the worst o-line in the league last year, and Taylor still managed a nice YPC. Anyone who owns Chester is in for a nice surprise this year, he's not flashy, he's just a football player. Why the Raven's kept Lewis is anyone's guess. My guess would be the high draft pick and the 2,000 yard season. I think we can mark him down for at least 225 and 1,000 and 40 for 300. Don't know about TDs. Not superstar but solid numbers. You'll soon see that Chester can play.

 

[MLBrandow]

You realize Lewis played injured last year right? So, basically you're saying he out-performed a hobbled Jamal Lewis, but wasn't good enough to actually overtake his starting role.

In addition to that, the Ravens were so pleased with his performance and were so high on his potential that they said "don't come back" and signed a 33-year old backup.

I don't follow, sorry.

As Big Score edited, Moore has been a beast when healthy. He'll be the guy for at least 3-4 games this season (much sooner than later), and if he can stay healthy, he is flat out a better football player than Taylor.

 

[vikingdave]

You realize Lewis played injured last year right? So, basically you're saying he out-performed a hobbled Jamal Lewis, but wasn't good enough to actually overtake his starting role.

In addition to that, the Ravens were so pleased with his performance and were so high on his potential that they said "don't come back" and signed a 33-year old backup.

I don't follow, sorry.

When did they say that? Baltimore actually tried to keep him but Taylor declined and went to Minnesota.......

 

[broncofan13000]

As Big Score edited, Moore has been a beast when healthy. He'll be the guy for at least 3-4 games this season (much sooner than later), and if he can stay healthy, he is flat out a better football player than Taylor.

Moore has been good when healthy; the problem is he's always knicked up. If they were so in love in what they had, why would they bring Chester in?

 

[MLBrandow]

As Big Score edited, Moore has been a beast when healthy.  He'll be the guy for at least 3-4 games this season (much sooner than later), and if he can stay healthy, he is flat out a better football player than Taylor.

Moore has been good when healthy; the problem is he's always knicked up. If they were so in love in what they had, why would they bring Chester in?

 

[LTsharks]

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability? I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

If you say he is a RB4/5, we would have to assume that on your personal list he ranks around RB48 (This is the middle of the range of RB4-5, Assuming a 12 team league). Could you please list the 47 RBs that you would draft before Taylor if he could only be your RB4/5.This would help everyone get a better idea of who you have ranked above Taylor - one of the current listed starting RBs in the NFL.

Thanks.

 

[cantstop1999]

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability?  I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

If you say he is a RB4/5, we would have to assume that on your personal list he ranks around RB48 (This is the middle of the range of RB4-5, Assuming a 12 team league). Could you please list the 47 RBs that you would draft before Taylor if he could only be your RB4/5.This would help everyone get a better idea of who you have ranked above Taylor - one of the current listed starting RBs in the NFL.

Thanks.

 

[cantstop1999]

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability?  I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

If you say he is a RB4/5, we would have to assume that on your personal list he ranks around RB48 (This is the middle of the range of RB4-5, Assuming a 12 team league). Could you please list the 47 RBs that you would draft before Taylor if he could only be your RB4/5.This would help everyone get a better idea of who you have ranked above Taylor - one of the current listed starting RBs in the NFL.

Thanks.

 

[LTsharks]

RB3 with bye-week fill-in ability?  I doubt this even, because he'll be injured, splitting carries or on the bench by the time your RBs are on bye...

I'd take him as a high-risk RB4/5 with potential for moderate fringe RB2 success.

If you say he is a RB4/5, we would have to assume that on your personal list he ranks around RB48 (This is the middle of the range of RB4-5, Assuming a 12 team league). Could you please list the 47 RBs that you would draft before Taylor if he could only be your RB4/5.This would help everyone get a better idea of who you have ranked above Taylor - one of the current listed starting RBs in the NFL.

Thanks.

I just noticed this -In this thread

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=249748

where you were drafting all teams against yourself, you drafted Taylor in the 5th round as the 26th RB taken in the draft.

That seems like solid RB3 material to me. Could you explain the reasoning there? Again, just trying to understand everyones opinions here, I'm having a hard time ranking Taylor this year.

 

[David Yudkin]

Where is all the Mewelde Moore love coming from? Sure, he's done well when he's had the chance . . . but the teams seems instistant on him NOT getting the chance. I recall that he will be the return back this season.

I know thatt htere have been some concerns about Taylor's physical conditioning so far in OTAs, but remember that he will be running behind Pro Bowlers Birk, Hutchinson, and Richardson.

What I find interesting in some of these threads is that people want to knock Larry Johnson down a notch for losing Richardson and Shaun Alexander down some for losing Hutchinson . . . yet NO ONE wants to bump Taylor up for GAINING these guys. IMO, Taylor has realistic Top 10 potential this year if he decides he wants to be a starting NFL RB.

 

[JerseyPaul]

Taylor has realistic Top 10 potential this year if he decides he wants to be a starting NFL RB.

David, that is the issue that has me going crazy in draft planning.We will all have the same problem. You can take a very, very good WR in the 3rd round that has projections we can reasonably count on. That would include guys like Chris Chambers, Darrell Jackson, Hines Ward or seemingly undervalued Santana Moss.

Or, you could take Chester Taylor.

The thread has outlined why Taylor may not be the 2006 Lamont Jordan. Yet, the arguments are also compelling that he has the POTENTIAL to be the steal of your fantasy draft. So the safe 10-15 ranked WR or the RB that could be anywhere between 10 (or better) and 20. If he's 10, Chester is your man, if 18, Chambers would have been better.

Is the answer different in PPR leagues?

Is round 3 too soon for risk or does safe always come in 3rd.

Oh well, I'll think about it until late August when I draft.

 

[broncofan13000]

Taylor has realistic Top 10 potential this year if he decides he wants to be a starting NFL RB.

David, that is the issue that has me going crazy in draft planning.We will all have the same problem. You can take a very, very good WR in the 3rd round that has projections we can reasonably count on. That would include guys like Chris Chambers, Darrell Jackson, Hines Ward or seemingly undervalued Santana Moss.

Or, you could take Chester Taylor.

The thread has outlined why Taylor may not be the 2006 Lamont Jordan. Yet, the arguments are also compelling that he has the POTENTIAL to be the steal of your fantasy draft. So the safe 10-15 ranked WR or the RB that could be anywhere between 10 (or better) and 20. If he's 10, Chester is your man, if 18, Chambers would have been better.

Is the answer different in PPR leagues?

Is round 3 too soon for risk or does safe always come in 3rd.

Oh well, I'll think about it until late August when I draft.

Is 18th all that bad for a RB in the third round? This year going RB, WR, RB, WR, isn't a bad start at alleg.

RB - Rudi

WR - Holt

RB - Chester

WR - S.Moss/Plaxico etc.

 

[JerseyPaul]

From the back end of the draft that looks good. Rudi at 1.10 then Holt. Chambers, Wayne, Ward and Djax may be gone at 3.10 so Taylor is a no-brainer if he's there. At 3.10, he may be gone. Moss/Plaxico will indeed be there in round 4 for the Rudi drafter in round 1, nice turn

What about 3.3 - 3.7. Taylor over Chambers in a start 3WR league?

My current thinking is Chambers over Taylor but Taylor over the other round 3 candidates; like Ward and Wayne

 

[broncofan13000]

From the back end of the draft that looks good. Rudi at 1.10 then Holt. Chambers, Wayne, Ward and Djax may be gone at 3.10 so Taylor is a no-brainer if he's there. At 3.10, he may be gone. Moss/Plaxico will indeed be there in round 4 for the Rudi drafter in round 1, nice turn

What about 3.3 - 3.7. Taylor over Chambers in a start 3WR league?

My current thinking is Chambers over Taylor but Taylor over the other round 3 candidates; like Ward and Wayne

Obviously depends on the situation and what players are available; but if i went with a WR in the 2nd, i would lean towards a RB in the 3rd...edit:

When i'm at the top of the draft i find myself going RB WR WR RB

 

[JerseyPaul]

Problem is, there's no RB value at the end of round 4. Unless you believe in Tatum Bell.

 

[Acrobat7]

Problem is, there's no RB value at the end of round 4. Unless you believe in Tatum Bell.

i actually do believe in him, but that's another story...

 

[ravnzfan]

Baltimore wouldn't give him the money that the Vikings offered.

fixedthe guy is a bad apple in the locker room...scream at me all you want, but top freakin' 10 for Chestor Taylor??

pass the bong...

 

[Sabertooth]

Taylor seems very cheap these days. I think someone mentioned a Fantasy hangover from Minny players the last few years.

I think that's an excellent way to view him, he's wearing Purple so Fantasy players are laying off...

We love history when it supports our thoughts, and use it against ourselves even when opportunity knocks us over the head....

Chester is the starter on a team with the best offensive line in his confrence, has a HC who learned from someone who excells at getting the ball to his RBs in a creative way

and

plays in a division with two terrible defensive teams and has a schedule after the 1st three weeks that looks really nice.

Which two defenses are terrible? Detroit and Green Bay? Because Green Bay's was pretty solid last season and they will be vastly improved by trotting out AJ Hawk, Charles Woodson, and Marquand Manuel over NFL Europe type guys in Paris Lenon, Ahmad Carroll, and Mark Roman respectively.