Chris Perry (1 Viewer)

[bocksheesh]

Saw his numbers, but didn't get a chance to see the game.

I know he didn't have a good game, but he did seem to get a fair amount of carries which is promising.

Curious how people who saw the game thought he looked though against a very tough Run D in Baltimore.

 

[Sputnikv8]

"Cincy" looked bad. The defensive line was on Carson or Perry at about the same time they got the ball. That o-line was horrible against the Ravens. Granted, the Ravens look to be a formidable run stopping D, but, it was a slaughter.

As a Perry owner (and in my starting lineup ), the only positive I saw was he walked off the field and wasn't carted off.

 

[Jason Wood]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

 

[pollardsvision]

"Cincy" looked bad. The defensive line was on Carson or Perry at about the same time they got the ball. That o-line was horrible against the Ravens. Granted, the Ravens look to be a formidable run stopping D, but, it was a slaughter.

As a Perry owner (and in my starting lineup ), the only positive I saw was he walked off the field and wasn't carted off.

nothing to be ashamed of there, i think those are great positives.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I only saw about half of his carries, but thought he looked quick and powerful on some of the ones I did see. Unfortunately, holes were few and far between. The carries that I saw him getting stuffed he didn't have a prayer. Not much you can do when a defender or two greets you in the backfield.

Ray Lewis made a very good play to rip the ball away from him on the fumble.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Pretty much concur with what others have said - he really didn't have a chance as the Ravens were in the Cincy backfield all day. I didn't think Perry looked especially great on the one or two times he wasn't ambushed right as the ball was handed to him, but he just didn't have enough room often enough to make any real judgement.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

JW, do you really think Alexander would be better than Perry at this point?

 

[Jason Wood]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

JW, do you really think Alexander would be better than Perry at this point?

Sure I do.

 

[Magnus_CA]

I'm going to wait to see how Perry is at home next week before deciding what to do with him. Cincy maybe a a horrible team this year but they've always been more horrible on the road.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

JW, do you really think Alexander would be better than Perry at this point?

Sure I do.

Dump Rudi and sign Shaun Alexander? Doesn't make much sense but then again these are the Bengals.

 

[Routilla]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

LOL at the Bengals thinking about signing another RB when the OL is and will continue to be their biggest problem on offense.Edited to add: if they are thinking about signing RBs it should be blocking full-backs that they sign.

 

[flooredyas]

I'm going to wait to see how Perry is at home next week before deciding what to do with him. Cincy maybe a a horrible team this year but they've always been more horrible on the road.

You actually think that giving him another chance, facing Tenn. is a fair trial period?Until he is relegated to 2nd string may be fairer IMO. Perhaps keeping him on the bench till week 3 (@Giants) but realistically week 4 (vs. Clev) would be more in line with my thoughts.

 

[fatboyj711]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

JW, do you really think Alexander would be better than Perry at this point?

Sure I do.

Dump Rudi and sign Shaun Alexander? Doesn't make much sense but then again these are the Bengals.

rudi was a salary cap casualty... if alexander is signed, it will be for the vet minimum so it makes a whole lot of sense actually.

 

[Magnus_CA]

I'm going to wait to see how Perry is at home next week before deciding what to do with him. Cincy maybe a a horrible team this year but they've always been more horrible on the road.

You actually think that giving him another chance, facing Tenn. is a fair trial period?Until he is relegated to 2nd string may be fairer IMO. Perhaps keeping him on the bench till week 3 (@Giants) but realistically week 4 (vs. Clev) would be more in line with my thoughts.

I'm just willing to give him at least some slack for another week. I know many owners are already jumping ship.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I'm going to wait to see how Perry is at home next week before deciding what to do with him. Cincy maybe a a horrible team this year but they've always been more horrible on the road.

You actually think that giving him another chance, facing Tenn. is a fair trial period?Until he is relegated to 2nd string may be fairer IMO. Perhaps keeping him on the bench till week 3 (@Giants) but realistically week 4 (vs. Clev) would be more in line with my thoughts.

Just looked at the Bengals schedule. Murderers row of tough run defenses.week 1 @ BALT #2 vs Rush in 2007week 2 TENN #5 vs Rush in 2007week 3 @NYG #8 vs Rush in 2007week 4 CLEV #27 vs Rush in 2007 (Add Shaun Rogers now)week 5 @DAL #6 vs Rush in 2007week 6 @NYJ #29 vs Rush in 2007week 7 PIT #3 vs Rush in 2007week 8 BYEweek 9 JAX #11 vs Rush in 2007With that offensive line he may not even really have a chance with that schedule. He may be a sell high at this point. Even after that performance.

 

[Raider Nation]

Jacksonville managed only 33 yards on 17 carries against Tennessee. I see no way I can start Perry against them.

Unfortunately, my only other option (due to the Morris injury) is Rashard Mendenhall against Cleveland. But with the way the Brownies got pushed around by Dallas, I'll probably give the rook a shot and hope he can get a dozen or so productive carries.

Is anyone actually going to start Perry this week?

 

[Golden Mike Tomczak]

With only Derrick Ward and Rudi Johnson on my bench, Perry is a sure start. (16 team league mind you..)

 

[WarRedbirds]

Shaun Alexander is NOT the answer here....

 

[TheBaylorKid]

Jacksonville managed only 33 yards on 17 carries against Tennessee. I see no way I can start Perry against them.Unfortunately, my only other option (due to the Morris injury) is Rashard Mendenhall against Cleveland. But with the way the Brownies got pushed around by Dallas, I'll probably give the rook a shot and hope he can get a dozen or so productive carries.Is anyone actually going to start Perry this week?

At the moment I am starting Perry, but seriously thinking about Dunn over Perry. My RBs are that bad.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm going to wait to see how Perry is at home next week before deciding what to do with him. Cincy maybe a a horrible team this year but they've always been more horrible on the road.

You actually think that giving him another chance, facing Tenn. is a fair trial period?Until he is relegated to 2nd string may be fairer IMO. Perhaps keeping him on the bench till week 3 (@Giants) but realistically week 4 (vs. Clev) would be more in line with my thoughts.

Cleveland is the only cupcake I see for quite a while. After that it's Dallas, the Jets and Pitt. They get a bye and come back with the Jags. After the bye they also get Pitt again, Philly, Baltimore again. The only good news is that for the playoffs the guy gets Indy, Washington and Cleveland. The question is, does he last that long?

 

[Bad_Mo]

Jacksonville managed only 33 yards on 17 carries against Tennessee. I see no way I can start Perry against them.

But then again...Cincy didn't lose most of its O-Line during the game like JAX did.

 

[LOCO]

just dropped him for patten.

perry is has tough schedule, and the bengals Oline is horrible. i don't need the headache.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Jacksonville managed only 33 yards on 17 carries against Tennessee. I see no way I can start Perry against them.

But then again...Cincy didn't lose most of its O-Line during the game like JAX did.

They may have wished they did. The Cincy O Line was brutally bad against the Ravens. Perry & Palmer weren't good, but they had almost no time to get anything started.

 

[cheese]

just dropped him for patten.

perry is has tough schedule, and the bengals Oline is horrible. i don't need the headache.

I'm not sure that the Bengals Oline is horrible. They definitely PLAYED horrible against Baltimore, but I think they'll bounce back to some extent. Cincy has admitted that Baltimore had them quite confused with new looks that they weren't prepared for. I think this makes the offensive line struggle as much as anyone else.This link focusing on the running game seems to have some good explanation of what all went wrong against Baltimore and trying to correct it.

 

[TheFanatic]

Jacksonville managed only 33 yards on 17 carries against Tennessee. I see no way I can start Perry against them.

But then again...Cincy didn't lose most of its O-Line during the game like JAX did.

I'm not sure what is better. A decimated Jags Line or a healthy Cinci Line....And considering I have Perry/Fred Taylor/MJD fighting for the RB2 spot behind LT, I think this may be a LOOONNNGGGG season for me...

 

[cred0021]

Coming from a Bengals fan and ex-SA keeper owner (during the MVP season and the downward spiral afterwards) - with Cincy's offensive line would you really expect Alexander to do anything other that fall down in the backfield? I mean he was only good when he had a great line opening up big holes - he doesn't hit the hole with authority and he goes down at the slightest contact. Not a recipe for success in Cincy right now.

 

[T Bell]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

JW, do you really think Alexander would be better than Perry at this point?

Sure I do.

Why? I truly don't get your thinking here.

 

[Captain_Apocalypse]

1. Alexander will not take the vet minimum, I practically gaurentee it. That alone makes me think he will not be playing this year.

2. Alexander sucks.

 

[mrnormandy]

who would you give perry up for?

pierre thomas

ray rice

steve slaton

andre hall

selvin young

lendale white

tim hightower

jerious norwood

are any of these enticing enough for you?

 

[djjosee]

What about Kenny Watson ... does he have any value at all? Or is he just an after thought?

 

[travdogg]

who would you give perry up for?pierre thomasray ricesteve slatonandre hallselvin younglendale whitetim hightowerjerious norwoodare any of these enticing enough for you?

I'd rather have Perry than any of those guys.

 

[Linus Scrimmage]

This is the benefit of having direct TV with the NFL package.I got to watch a lot of the Bengals when they were on offense.Chris Perry is not the problem at all.he was hit in the backfield quite often and didn't even have a prayer on 20% of his carries.checking the game log.

2-1-BAL 14 (6:13) 23-C.Perry left guard to BAL 17 for -3 yards (55-T.Suggs). 3-2-CIN 34 (13:09) 23-C.Perry left guard to CIN 32 for -2 yards (57-B.Scott). 2-10-CIN 37 (7:36) 23-C.Perry right end to CIN 34 for -3 yards (55-T.Suggs). 2-7-CIN 47 (14:16) 23-C.Perry up the middle to CIN 47 for no gain (55-T.Suggs). 4-1-BAL 25 (7:19) 23-C.Perry right tackle to BAL 26 for -1 yards (92-H.Ngata).

Take away those 5 runs and he was 13 for 46. Not good, but better than 18 for 39They went 3 and out at least 5 times.

 

[CrossEyed]

who would you give perry up for?pierre thomasray ricesteve slatonandre hallselvin younglendale whitetim hightowerjerious norwoodare any of these enticing enough for you?

I'd rather have Perry than any of those guys.

I'd rather have Hightower, Thomas, or Norwood.Cincy is a mess. And it's only a matter of time before Henry does something stupid and Ocho Cinco starts running his mouth again. Perry might have talent, but the situation is not good.ETA: Not to mention a brutal schedule against the run until very late in the season.

 

[TheBaylorKid]

who would you give perry up for?pierre thomasray ricesteve slatonandre hallselvin younglendale whitetim hightowerjerious norwoodare any of these enticing enough for you?

I would take any of those guys in a non-keeper i currently start Perry and would be comfortable plugging in white, norwood, or thomas in my line up immediately to replace him.if i had depth at rb, i would be comfortable rostering rice, slation, and denver rbs and waiting for their circumstances to improve.hightower might bounce back and forth between the waiver wire and people's rosters, so i would be hesitant

 

[jaybebo]

I'm going to wait to see how Perry is at home next week before deciding what to do with him. Cincy maybe a a horrible team this year but they've always been more horrible on the road.

You actually think that giving him another chance, facing Tenn. is a fair trial period?Until he is relegated to 2nd string may be fairer IMO. Perhaps keeping him on the bench till week 3 (@Giants) but realistically week 4 (vs. Clev) would be more in line with my thoughts.

I'm just willing to give him at least some slack for another week. I know many owners are already jumping ship.

May want to give him another two weeks...he will be running into the best run defense in the league next week in the Titans...Giants may not bend much either in Week 3. However, if Palmer and his two amigos could get it together, there may be some good play out of Perry.

 

[CrossEyed]

Take away those 5 runs

Why do people do this?

 

[Linus Scrimmage]

Take away those 5 runs

Why do people do this?

How often will you see a running back get minus yards 4 times in the same game?He's not to blame.

 

[CrossEyed]

Take away those 5 runs

Why do people do this?

How often will you see a running back get minus yards 4 times in the same game?He's not to blame.

I'm not suggesting he's the only one to blame, but he'll be running behind the same oline this Sunday. Why eliminate plays (long or short) when evaluating a player's performance?

 

[Linus Scrimmage]

Bengals drives

14:02 1:37 CIN 26 3 6 Punt

11:17 1:50 CIN 12 3 3 Punt

07:40 2:02 CIN 37 3 -1 Punt

04:08 1:31 CIN 12 3 23 Fumble

01:43 1:38 CIN 32 7 43 Field Goal

15:00 1:43 CIN 44 3 9 Punt

05:23 2:36 CIN 34 7 30 Downs

00:15 0:23 CIN 22 3 0 Punt

08:50 1:35 CIN 42 5 32 Downs

bolded are 3 and outs.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

The Bengals looked AWFUL. For a team that was quick to let Willie Anderson leave (and sign with Baltimore no less), that offensive line wasn't up to the task on either side of the pass- and run-blocking ledger. I'm hopeful that Perry will be a valuable PPR contributor but if they sign Shaun Alexander as is widely rumored, Perry could quickly be relegated to fantasy insignificance again.

JW, do you really think Alexander would be better than Perry at this point?

Sure I do.

lol.. Thats why no one has signed him even though he's only asking league minimum. He's THAT good.

 

[TheFanatic]

Take away those 5 runs

Why do people do this?

I agree on the premise but the point is valid. Don't take away those runs, take a look at them. Notice how many times the guy is hit before he even gets to the LOS. That is an alarming number. Barry Sanders would be OK with that but this guy is not Barry...

 

[jeeb]

Take a look at Willie Parker's numbers over the past couple of years against the Baltimore run defense.

13-29-0

10-22-0

23-42-0

And that's with that old Pittsburgh oline.

I'm surprised Perry performed as well as he did.

 

[T Bell]

Take away those 5 runs

Why do people do this?

How often will you see a running back get minus yards 4 times in the same game?He's not to blame.

I'm not suggesting he's the only one to blame, but he'll be running behind the same oline this Sunday. Why eliminate plays (long or short) when evaluating a player's performance?

Well, insofar as you're discussing his situation, you're correct. Insofar as there's a discussion about how good Perry himself is, then it's valid to pay attention to stuff like this. His talent is a longer term issue as it will dictate how well he will hold down the job and how likely the Bengals are to sign another RB like Alexander.

 

[acjohnson83]

who would you give perry up for?pierre thomasray ricesteve slatonandre hallselvin younglendale whitetim hightowerjerious norwoodare any of these enticing enough for you?

I'd rather have Perry than any of those guys.

I'd rather have Hightower, Thomas, or Norwood.Cincy is a mess. And it's only a matter of time before Henry does something stupid and Ocho Cinco starts running his mouth again. Perry might have talent, but the situation is not good.ETA: Not to mention a brutal schedule against the run until very late in the season.

I wouldn't rather have any of those guys in a PPR league... except possibly Rice depending on what happens with teh McGahee situation.I have Rice and my decision this week is who to start at my flex. Have Jackson & Jacobs at RB 1&2. I can't see starting Perry before Week 4. The Titans Run D is great even without Haynesworth this week, and so is the Giants.

 

[Raider Nation]

This is killing me. I have one flex spot left, but Perry would seem to have absolutely NO upside this week.

Seriously, what's the best you could hope for? 50 rushing, 30 receiving and 1 TD? And that's best case.

Unfortunately, the other slop I have to choose from:

Mendenhall (limited carries... possibly bad field conditions)

Andre Hall (mom died this week, missed a practice, in a RBBC)

Roddy White (playing a TB defense which is suffocating at home... rookie QB)

Zach Miller (his team stinks)

Perry would seem to be the least sucky option.

Who else has to make a decision on him? Maybe I can help.

 

[Ballstein]

This is killing me. I have one flex spot left, but Perry would seem to have absolutely NO upside this week.

Seriously, what's the best you could hope for? 50 rushing, 30 receiving and 1 TD? And that's best case.

Unfortunately, the other slop I have to choose from:

Mendenhall (limited carries... possibly bad field conditions)

Andre Hall (mom died this week, missed a practice, in a RBBC)

Roddy White (playing a TB defense which is suffocating at home... rookie QB)

Zach Miller (his team stinks)

Perry would seem to be the least sucky option.

Who else has to make a decision on him? Maybe I can help.

Go Roddy--he is probably going to get more chances out of that bunch

 

[Raider Nation]

PERRY DETERMINED - Chris Perry took full responsibility for coming up short on a fourth-and-1 play in the fourth quarter of last Sunday's 17-10 loss at Baltimore. Never mind that the entire Baltimore defense showed up to meet the Bengals running back before he had a chance to reach the line of scrimmage.

That play epitomized the entire game for the Bengals offense. The Ravens beat them to the punch on nearly every play which explains why the Bengals managed just 154 yards, including just limiting Perry to 37 yards on 18 carries in his first game in nearly two seasons.

Perry is hoping for a better when the Bengals host Tennessee in the home opener Sunday afternoon at Paul Brown Stadium. Perry was starting for just the fourth time in his career, a career that was interrupted with a dislocated ankle suffered on Nov. 26, 2006, in a 30-0 win at Cleveland.

Injuries have plagued Perry since the Bengals selected him in the first round of the 2004 draft. He is healthy this season and earned the starting job before the team released Rudi Johnson on Aug. 30.

"I'm pleased I got the first game out of the way but I can't rest on anything because I didn't do anything and we lost," said Perry. "It was an 'L' all the way around."

Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis exonerated Perry on the fourth-down play but Perry said no matter the situation he should have been able to pick up the necessary yardage.

"That's why they made me the starting running back, for me to make a play like that," said Perry. "Fourth and a yard – I should be able to make that regardless."

Tennessee held Jacksonville, a team that finished second in the NFL last season in rushing offense, to just 33 yards on the ground.

 

[Raider Nation]

This is killing me. I have one flex spot left, but Perry would seem to have absolutely NO upside this week.

Seriously, what's the best you could hope for? 50 rushing, 30 receiving and 1 TD? And that's best case.

Unfortunately, the other slop I have to choose from:

Mendenhall (limited carries... possibly bad field conditions)

Andre Hall (mom died this week, missed a practice, in a RBBC)

Roddy White (playing a TB defense which is suffocating at home... rookie QB)

Zach Miller (his team stinks)

Perry would seem to be the least sucky option.

Who else has to make a decision on him? Maybe I can help.

Go Roddy--he is probably going to get more chances out of that bunch

Thanks. I forget where I read it (probably here) but White has one 100-yard game in six starts against Tampa. The other five games, he's averaged something like 30 yards. Last year in Tampa... 1 catch for 4 yards. :X Maybe I'll throw a dart.

 

[-baller]

I might lean miller.

my suspicion is that kc is soft vs te's and whenever they get to the red zone miller tends to get looks.

I'm a little worried because he didn't do squat vs kc last year, but that was culpepper, and at least he still got a half dozen targets each game.

I'm starting him at te today over scheff and gonzalez.

edit:

hey, waitaminute......'raider nation'??

c'mon....

 

[Da Beers]

Take a look at Willie Parker's numbers over the past couple of years against the Baltimore run defense.13-29-010-22-023-42-0And that's with that old Pittsburgh oline.I'm surprised Perry performed as well as he did.

Perry is going to make a good buy-low candidate in a few weeks. As has been mentioned, numerous times, his schedule is brutal. But if he stays healthy all season (big if I know), his playoff schedule is pretty decent. Week 14 @IndyWeek 15 WashingtonWeek 16 @Cleveland