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Christine Michael Volume 3: Inevitable Greatness Soon Achieved (2 Viewers)

Not until Romo is back will ANY Dallas RB have value.

I predict a C West like performance. 12-15 carries for 40 yards.

I also predicted the Mets would win the NL back in July and that they would sweep the Cubs. So I'm kind of on fire!

Go Mets!
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Not until Romo is back will ANY Dallas RB have value.

I predict a C West like performance. 12-15 carries for 40 yards.

I also predicted the Mets would win the NL back in July and that they would sweep the Cubs. So I'm kind of on fire!

Go Mets!
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Anxiously awaiting!

 
I can't remember the last time I was this anticipatory in the middle of a fantasy season.

Even if it's a lump of coal...the excitement has been worth the ride.

 
The Giants have only allowed 3.7 ypc on the season. But Randle did average 4.1 against them in the opener. After that they faced ATL, WAS, BUF, SF, PHI.

 
No idea why i'm personally excited by this dude, I don't even have the cojones to put him in over Woodhead in standard scoring in my flex this week.

 
IMO....you have to look at him like you would a RB at the beginning of the season who won the job in camp. That's his floor.
No, his floor is one part of a RBBC for one week. Michael hasn't exactly earned anything more than a one week opportunity at this point.Not saying you should sell for a future 3rd, but his floor is no different than a lot of players that finally get a chance. His ceiling is the selling point, but it sounds like all the owners buying that ceiling have been owners of Michael for a while now.
I equate him to Rawls when Lynch went down and they didn't know the severity of the hamstring. Yeah...he might be a one week wonder, be part of a RBBC or be riding the pine if Lynch isn't hurt.....but at that moment of uncertainty.....his value is the starting RB in SEA. To me, Michael is no different right now. I certainly could get fair (if I approximated his value at RBBC for a week) value if I moved him this week....but who, after holding onto him for however long, is honestly is going to trade him for that right now? Last week?....I could see it. But today and up game time.....he's a starting RB in the NFL with a world of talent behind a (presumably) elite line and should be viewed as such.
We don't know that he's starting -- we have some non-official speculation and some vague coach-speak about getting him more work. Even if he does completely usurp Randle's role, that role is < 15 carries / week. Guys with "a world of talent" typically aren't dumped for a conditional 7th -- elite athletic measurables, sure, but the bulk of the evidence thus far doesn't indicate elite overall talent as a RB. Great line or no, Dallas is struggling to move the ball on the ground -- they're middle of the pack in rushing on the season. It's probably not going to get any better until Romo and Dez return.

I own Michael and hope he comes out strong, but tons of people are being waaaaaay too optimistic in here. Yet again. I'll be more than happy with him looking better than Randle has, to the tune of a 11-50-0 or something, and hoping that he can wrest the feature job away by the end of the year when the team should be healthy and humming. Those expecting immediate FF-savior type impact are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment. Again.
It seems every year, guys come out of the woodwork to save someones fantasy situation. Hell....Dion Lewis is on pace to do it this year. He's been dumped several times for nothing. There's almost always a "That Guy" who the masses haven't heard of. I think the stigma of be traded by SEA is clouding peoples view of him* a bit unjustly.....and to be honest, I think those more in the know have aptly explained why he was moved. If this guy were a rookie or young player whom DAL had traded up to the second to get and was rumored to be getting the RB1 tag for DAL....would you be more excited? I'm not one who thinks he's going 20 for 150 and 3TDs this weekend... I said earlier that I want to see him not make boneheaded mistakes and have moments where he reaches his perceived talent level...but I'm not one who's not going to shortchange his trade value because he doesn't have a track record either.

To me.....CMike right now is the same a me buying a lottery ticket at a store, not looking at the numbers and then a couple of days later finding out that a winning ticket was sold at that store. Do I have the winning ticket? Probably not. Would I sell that ticket for 100.00? Definitely not.

* Full Disclosure: I was clouded by it.

 
I had him in my flex all week but just scooped up Jordan Reed who I plan on flexing instead. Still hella excited about seeing how this transpires. I can see him in a 50/50 workload with Randle this week

 
Cowboys OC Scott Linehan said he isn't planning "big changes" in the running game, but that Christine Michael will get more carries.
That won't be hard seeing as Michael has two touches on the year. There's been noise coming directly from Cowboys camp all week about getting Michael more work, but Joseph Randle is still the favorite to lead the backfield in touches. That being said, it appears Michael will be given the opportunity to develop the "hot hand." He's a high-risk, high-reward FLEX play for Week 7.


Source: Brandon George on Twitter
Oct 22 - 2:34 PM

 
Yeah I find serious doubt he will be starter. I still think that will be Randle (who people keep saying sucks which I disagree with). I think Randle gets the first series and Michael gets the next. After that it will be a hot hand thing. If Michael performs, there's no stopping him. If he doesn't its probably 50/50. Thats just my best guess. Hes a fine flex option this week.

 
IMO....you have to look at him like you would a RB at the beginning of the season who won the job in camp. That's his floor.
No, his floor is one part of a RBBC for one week. Michael hasn't exactly earned anything more than a one week opportunity at this point.Not saying you should sell for a future 3rd, but his floor is no different than a lot of players that finally get a chance. His ceiling is the selling point, but it sounds like all the owners buying that ceiling have been owners of Michael for a while now.
I equate him to Rawls when Lynch went down and they didn't know the severity of the hamstring. Yeah...he might be a one week wonder, be part of a RBBC or be riding the pine if Lynch isn't hurt.....but at that moment of uncertainty.....his value is the starting RB in SEA. To me, Michael is no different right now. I certainly could get fair (if I approximated his value at RBBC for a week) value if I moved him this week....but who, after holding onto him for however long, is honestly is going to trade him for that right now? Last week?....I could see it. But today and up game time.....he's a starting RB in the NFL with a world of talent behind a (presumably) elite line and should be viewed as such.
We don't know that he's starting -- we have some non-official speculation and some vague coach-speak about getting him more work. Even if he does completely usurp Randle's role, that role is < 15 carries / week. Guys with "a world of talent" typically aren't dumped for a conditional 7th -- elite athletic measurables, sure, but the bulk of the evidence thus far doesn't indicate elite overall talent as a RB. Great line or no, Dallas is struggling to move the ball on the ground -- they're middle of the pack in rushing on the season. It's probably not going to get any better until Romo and Dez return.

I own Michael and hope he comes out strong, but tons of people are being waaaaaay too optimistic in here. Yet again. I'll be more than happy with him looking better than Randle has, to the tune of a 11-50-0 or something, and hoping that he can wrest the feature job away by the end of the year when the team should be healthy and humming. Those expecting immediate FF-savior type impact are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment. Again.
It seems every year, guys come out of the woodwork to save someones fantasy situation. Hell....Dion Lewis is on pace to do it this year. He's been dumped several times for nothing. There's almost always a "That Guy" who the masses haven't heard of. I think the stigma of be traded by SEA is clouding peoples view of him* a bit unjustly.....and to be honest, I think those more in the know have aptly explained why he was moved. If this guy were a rookie or young player whom DAL had traded up to the second to get and was rumored to be getting the RB1 tag for DAL....would you be more excited? I'm not one who thinks he's going 20 for 150 and 3TDs this weekend... I said earlier that I want to see him not make boneheaded mistakes and have moments where he reaches his perceived talent level...but I'm not one who's not going to shortchange his trade value because he doesn't have a track record either.

To me.....CMike right now is the same a me buying a lottery ticket at a store, not looking at the numbers and then a couple of days later finding out that a winning ticket was sold at that store. Do I have the winning ticket? Probably not. Would I sell that ticket for 100.00? Definitely not.

* Full Disclosure: I was clouded by it.
Yes, I would. Two of the three pieces of concrete evidence we have on Michael are that he was unable to pass Robert Turbin for two years on Seattle's depth chart, and that Seattle couldn't get more than a conditional 7th for him in trade (the third being his initial draft position, which is more favorable). A 2nd rounder who hasn't crapped the bed and seen a team give up on him in the NFL is worth more than a 2nd rounder who does have those negatives on his resume. It's also really not unjust that Seattle dumping him soured people on him -- that is a big and recent part of the guy's already thin resume, and it absolutely should have caused everyone to adjust expectations downward.

 
FYI this reminds me 100% of the Latavius Murray situation from last year. I remember the days leading up to the KC game there were numerous rumors about him overtaking DMC. Some brave (AKA desperate) people like me took a stab in the dark and started him. Im pretty sure DMC got the first few snaps and sucked with them. We were all #####ing in the game thread. Then Murray got the next few carries and thats all she wrote. The job was his (until he got concussed).

 
Cowboys | Joseph Randle still lead back Thu Oct 22, 02:42 PM

Dallas Cowboys RB Joseph Randle will continue to get the bulk of the carries, according to offensive coordinator Scott Linehan. The team wants to get RB Christine Michael involved as well, though.

 
I can't remember the last time I was this anticipatory in the middle of a fantasy season.

Even if it's a lump of coal...the excitement has been worth the ride.
Just last year we had the Josh Gordon return from suspension. Soulfly went nuts and lost all credibility.

 
I can't remember the last time I was this anticipatory in the middle of a fantasy season.

Even if it's a lump of coal...the excitement has been worth the ride.
Just last year we had the Josh Gordon return from suspension. Soulfly went nuts and lost all credibility.
I can't look at a Soulfly opinion now without simply laughing about how he spoke like an expert in that thread and was wrong about everything he said.

 
I'm seeing some flags here. Before he bye, reports that mike will be the starter. Takes starter reps Monday. After Monday Randle is taking starter reps on Wednesday and now linehan saying he will still get the bulk. Is cmike not that good or fumbling or doing something wrong were not seeing? Seems a little off.

 
I am more convinced than ever. Cmike will put up top 5 numbers this week. Start him with confidence 18/110/2 plus 3/22 28.2 points in ppr
what kind of smoke you got man? whatever it is It sounds awesome. I wish you were gonna be right but don't see it. If he gets over 10 ppr points I would be shocked.

 
Might be a bit overhyped at this point

Giants are going to sell out to stop the run, forcing Cassel to beat them.

Expect more of the same until Romo returns.

 
Dallas Cowboys RB Joseph Randle will continue to get the bulk of the carries, according to offensive coordinator Scott Linehan. The team wants to get RB Christine Michael involved as well, though.

:popcorn:

 
I doubt the coaches are going to tell the opposition what the carry distribution is going to be. We know that CMike has been taking first team reps. And we know that the Cowboys have made changes at QB and tackle. They obviously aren't happy with their offense.

Unlike QB, they don't have to make a solid switch. I think those expecting Michael to become lead back and get 25 carries were dreaming. I think we may see a nearly even split this week. It'll be more or less an audition for next week. If Randle has a first half like he did against Atlanta (his only good half all year), maybe Michael only ends up with 5 carries. If he's average like most of the year, we're going to see if CMike can take the job away going forward.

From a fantasy perspective, I wouldn't start him unless injuries and the byes have my backfield depleted. Way safer choices out there.

 
Randle has looked pedestrian, so we Michael owners are excited to see what Michael does this week.

But hear this: Michael will get 5-10 touches this week.

That's about it. Temper your expectations.

 
Randle has looked pedestrian, so we Michael owners are excited to see what Michael does this week.

But hear this: Michael will get 5-10 touches this week.

That's about it. Temper your expectations.
Like his entire career. I never understood the hype and felt he was being over valued big time.

Dallas blew it. They thought their line was the reason Murray was so great. You do need some skill to play RB not just a great line.

But in all fairness, When your down your All-Pro QB and top 2 WR in the entire league your not going to run the ball with any amount of consistent success.

 
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Evans beasted last year with crap at QB, guy. Not to mention it's patently absurd to dismiss Winston after a whopping 5 starts. There's also not a chance in hell Michael surpasses Evans' season total of 174 yards (plus whatever he gets this week) this week.
I actually dismissed Winston before he was ever drafted

JaMarcus Russell 2.0

 
FYI this reminds me 100% of the Latavius Murray situation from last year. I remember the days leading up to the KC game there were numerous rumors about him overtaking DMC. Some brave (AKA desperate) people like me took a stab in the dark and started him. Im pretty sure DMC got the first few snaps and sucked with them. We were all #####ing in the game thread. Then Murray got the next few carries and thats all she wrote. The job was his (until he got concussed).
And that was the only game that he has ever lived up to the hype

 
Evans beasted last year with crap at QB, guy. Not to mention it's patently absurd to dismiss Winston after a whopping 5 starts. There's also not a chance in hell Michael surpasses Evans' season total of 174 yards (plus whatever he gets this week) this week.
I actually dismissed Winston before he was ever drafted

JaMarcus Russell 2.0
Not. Russell was historically bad. Winston is a rookie QB having a rookie QB year...as to be expected.

 
monk said:
shadyridr said:
FYI this reminds me 100% of the Latavius Murray situation from last year. I remember the days leading up to the KC game there were numerous rumors about him overtaking DMC. Some brave (AKA desperate) people like me took a stab in the dark and started him. Im pretty sure DMC got the first few snaps and sucked with them. We were all #####ing in the game thread. Then Murray got the next few carries and thats all she wrote. The job was his (until he got concussed).
And that was the only game that he has ever lived up to the hype
Murray is currently RB17 in PPR and RB20 in standard. I don't own him anywhere, but I'd think that RB2 production is right about where most people thought he'd be. Further, the guy was a 6th round pick in the NFL, and went in the 2nd at best in most every FF rookie draft that year -- he wasn't a hugely hyped prospect at all. Of course there are a few folks out there that were probably unreasonably high on the guy, but in the overall scheme of things, the fact that he's holding down a starting spot puts him ahead of expectations as a 6th rounder / 2nd rounder in the NFL and FF.

 
from reading the tea leaves it seems like we're looking at more than a couple but less than a lot of touches. At the end of the day it's going to come down to production...if he breaks a couple nice runs and looks good doing it he'll get more touches...if he gets bottled up and looks similar to Randle then we enter RBBC hell and he's a cut candidate in two weeks.

 
Another good one:

David Helman@HelmanDC 1h1 hour agoIrving, TX

From Christine Michael himself: "I'm just as clueless as you are" about his level of involvement. But he does expect an increase.
That's just sad if true. I hope he knows how his coaches intend to use him and is just feigning ignorance as ordered to do.
Not sure why that's sad...the coaches may have a plan and may not have let him know what it is. He runs through the drills but he may not know what his usage will be.....hell, the coaches may not know as I suspect the game plan will largely depend on who's most productive and running the best.

 
Coach isn't even communicating with Homeboy. I'd trade Michael for the Broncos D/ST...or a box of Nerds. Love those things.

 

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