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Christine Michael Volume 3: Inevitable Greatness Soon Achieved (2 Viewers)
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dcgangstas
Footballguy
Funny that so much hype was generated for a guy who hasn't accomplished much in the league. He couldn't even beat out Robert Turbin in Seattle, with the knock being a lack of understanding the offense.
Small sample sizes can be funny like that. I'm not saying he's good or bad, but if you break one bad tackle and run 50 yards it really skews a stat like yards after contact, especially when there aren't that many carries.Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
Maybe they have more disposable income than you and/or pay for other features but just read the updgrades/downgrades for the hell of it?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm close to not renewing, especially after Dodds losing his cool in the Daily FF Articles thread and basically coming across as "no ones forcing you to subscribe, i don't care"However, I pay pretty much for draft dominator. I might try using the free version next year to rank based on scoring system. The upgrades downgrades I read for amusement. Bloom is a joke. Downgrades based on one bad game and upgrades based off who he thinks will be good, hence the 6 straight weeks of CM upgrades
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You guessed right ...Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
When you miss the holes your line opens up for you, you are going to get hit in the backfield and you better make dam sure you break a couple of tackles to get back to the line of scrimmage.
jurb26
Footballguy
OK, the old narrative was he couldn't break tackles and went down too easily. The new narrative is getting hit in the backfield is his the RB fault, as it applies to Randle.You guessed right ...When you miss the holes your line opens up for you, you are going to get hit in the backfield and you better make dam sure you break a couple of tackles to get back to the line of scrimmage.Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
Do we get to use that against other RBs, or just him?
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Lol spin, repeatOK, the old narrative was he could break tackles and went down too easily. The new narrative is getting hit in the backfield is his the RB fault, as it applies to Randle.You guessed right ...When you miss the holes your line opens up for you, you are going to get hit in the backfield and you better make dam sure you break a couple of tackles to get back to the line of scrimmage.Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
Do we get to use that against other RBs, or just him?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I wish there was an option to add a sound to a thread. So when someone opened it, the forum would play a sound... Perfect one for this thread :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I don't understand this at all... First, Bloom does write the upgrade/downgrade articles. It even says, "by Sigmund Bloom, exclusive to Footballguys.com"Second, how long do we give it? Here's a break down week by week starting with the first upgrade/downgrade week 2. It's sad... Like watching the dorky kid asking the prom queen out over and over and over and over...
RB Christine Michael, DAL - (waiver wire: 5-10% except in short bench leagues) - Michael was inactive, but Joseph Randle was only adequate and the Cowboys running game in general didn't dominate like it last year. With Dez Bryant out for a while, the team could feel more urgency to see what they have in Michael. The Seattle castoff could amount to nothing, but he can also change the outlook of this backfield instantly if he gets on the field
Week 3:
RB Christine Michael, DAL - (waiver wire: 25-50%) - Joseph Randle and Darren McFadden have had two chances to show something and they haven't. Michael's chance is coming soon, if not in Week 3 against the Falcons. The talent is there to be this year's CJ Anderson, although the loss of Romo and Bryant for a good part of the season limits Michael's ceiling.
Week4: (surprised he was able to stomach a downgrade). Apparently one good game was enough to turn Michael into a drop able player, even though you just spent 50% FAAB on him the week before
RB Christine Michael, DAL - Joseph Randle closed the door on Michael getting a callup because Randle hasn't been producing. If an injury strikes Dallas's backfield and Michael can get on the field, he'll be worth a pre-emptive pickup on the strength of his talent and the Dallas running game, but he's droppable for now.
Week 5: in case you dropped him last week after spending 50% FAAB, now you can pick him back up for 15%
RB Christine Michael, DAL - (waiver wire: 7-15%) - Michael got one measly unsuccessful short yardage carry, but he was up, Joseph Randle was ineffective and a near goal line fumble seemed to draw the ire of the Dallas coaches. If Michael can bring his physical urgent style to this offensive line, their blocking could become invigorated. Michael is still a textbook talent/situation/opportunity
Week 6:
RB Christine Michael, DAL - (waiver wire: 5-10%) - Michael looked good on his one run, finding the outside lane and gaining six yards on a short yardage carry. Joseph Randle is running hard, but eventually the Cowboys have to try to see what they have in Michael, right?
Week 7:
RB Christine Michael, DAL - (waiver wire: 25-50%) - There are numerous reports that Michael will get a chance to win the Cowboys backfield, if not outright start in Week 7. The Cowboys offense should improve with Dez Bryant and eventually Tony Romo back in the mix in the second half of the season. Michael's talent is well-documented and prodigious despite his uneventful NFL career to date. You want to have him on your roster when we see what he does with more work.
Week 8:
RB Christine Michael, DAL - Michael's opportunity came in the form of a Joseph Randle injury and Darren McFadden took it. The bye week hype amounted to nothing in Week 7. Michael is still more than capable and at least the Cowboys running game is on track, and with Joseph Randle missing time, Michael is a Darren McFadden injury away from being the #1 back.
Interesting... I missed the weekly upgrade of James Starks (a #2 backup no less vs a #4/inactive and now #3 RB) in lieu of Lacy running kind of ineffective this season
Lacy: 260/1, 9 rec/83, 49 fp in my league
Randle: 315/4, 10 rec/86, 74 fp in my league
After all, isn't James Starks "an injury away from being the #1 back?" And hasn't Lacy been playing worse than Randle?
I think we've given it "a few weeks to play out." In fact, it's been half the season...
-DR
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Ok ...Let's SeeOK, the old narrative was he could break tackles and went down too easily.The new narrative is getting hit in the backfield is his the RB fault, as it applies to Randle.You guessed right ...When you miss the holes your line opens up for you, you are going to get hit in the backfield and you better make dam sure you break a couple of tackles to get back to the line of scrimmage.Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
Do we get to use that against other RBs, or just him?
Gurly avg 6.0 yds per
CJ avg 5.1 yds per
Ivory Avg 5.0
Randle 4.1 (McFadden 4.3)
Yep just him ... The other 3 are considered by fans and their coaches to be having fantastic seasons.
Fans and his coaches think Randle is worse than his average numbers suggest.
And fans and coaches agree that McFadden looked far better than Randle has at any time this season
Yards after contact is a great stat when you are talking about someone like Ivory or Lynch who are consistently running people over and breaking tackles not someone like Randle who mostly goes down without fight but occasionally busts a long one.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I would argue Randle looked better than he has all season too before he got hurt. I think they worked out some kinks in the OL and as a result all RBs looked better. Before last game what was mcfaddens season shaping up to be? Pretty sad. So suddenly he got good? Or is it possible that they worked some kinks out and all the RBs looked great. Maybe Randle would have had an amazing game had he not gotten hurt. We will never know this but don't paint in broad strokes... McFadden looked like crap all season, same as Randle, and suddenly McFadden has a great game? Do you honestly think that's more of a testament to McFadden? And it's Randle that just plain sucks? But McFadden suddenly got good after a career of disappointment?Maybe you should apply to work at FBGOk ...Let's See Gurly avg 6.0 yds perOK, the old narrative was he could break tackles and went down too easily.The new narrative is getting hit in the backfield is his the RB fault, as it applies to Randle.You guessed right ...When you miss the holes your line opens up for you, you are going to get hit in the backfield and you better make dam sure you break a couple of tackles to get back to the line of scrimmage.Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
Do we get to use that against other RBs, or just him?
CJ avg 5.1 yds per
Ivory Avg 5.0
Randle 4.1 (McFadden 4.3)
Yep just him ... The other 3 are considered by fans and their coaches to be having fantastic seasons.
Fans and his coaches think Randle is worse than his average numbers suggest.
And fans and coaches agree that McFadden looked far better than Randle has at any time this season
Yards after contact is a great stat when you are talking about someone like Ivory or Lynch who are consistently running people over and breaking tackles not someone like Randle who mostly goes down without fight but occasionally busts a long one.
-DR
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addicted2ff
Footballguy
It doesn't matter what reality is. What matters is how the coaches and fans feel. If they feel like McFadden is getting the job done and he's doing what the coaches are asking him to do while Randle and Cmike aren't then they're going to give the reigns to McFadden.I would argue Randle looked better than he has all season too before he got hurt. I think they worked out some kinks in the OL and as a result all RBs looked better. Before last game what was mcfaddens season shaping up to be? Pretty sad. So suddenly he got good? Or is it possible that they worked some kinks out and all the RBs looked great. Maybe Randle would have had an amazing game had he not gotten hurt. We will never know this but don't paint in broad strokes... McFadden looked like crap all season, same as Randle, and suddenly McFadden has a great game? Do you honestly think that's more of a testament to McFadden? And it's Randle that just plain sucks? But McFadden suddenly got good after a career of disappointment?Maybe you should apply to work at FBGOk ...Let's See Gurly avg 6.0 yds perOK, the old narrative was he could break tackles and went down too easily.The new narrative is getting hit in the backfield is his the RB fault, as it applies to Randle.You guessed right ...When you miss the holes your line opens up for you, you are going to get hit in the backfield and you better make dam sure you break a couple of tackles to get back to the line of scrimmage.Most yards after contact per rush this season. Min of 70 carries.
Gurley 2.65
CJ2K 2.59
Ivory 2.56
Randle 2.43
I guess Randle sucks, though.
Do we get to use that against other RBs, or just him?
CJ avg 5.1 yds per
Ivory Avg 5.0
Randle 4.1 (McFadden 4.3)
Yep just him ... The other 3 are considered by fans and their coaches to be having fantastic seasons.
Fans and his coaches think Randle is worse than his average numbers suggest.
And fans and coaches agree that McFadden looked far better than Randle has at any time this season
Yards after contact is a great stat when you are talking about someone like Ivory or Lynch who are consistently running people over and breaking tackles not someone like Randle who mostly goes down without fight but occasionally busts a long one.
-DR
There are a ton of politics in coaching and some of that is catering to the fans to a certain degree. I think the vibe with Dallas fans is that McFadden did a pretty good job last game and they want to let him keep being the guy until he doesn't do a good job. McFadden also gives them more flexibility with play calling since he's a better receiver than the other 2.
bagger
Footballguy
we need to take away his top 3 runs per the previous c Mike thread.Alexanderson said:I think he had a 15 yard run. That one looked pretty good. I think it's one of those cases where the O-line is playing better so anyone with talent can run the ball well there but, unfortunately, he has two people ahead of him who were running effectively. So C-Mike owners (I was oneSproutDaddy said:) are hoping they give him a shot because "reasons". Even if he IS given the shot and plays well, the chances of him becoming the guy are somewhat slim since so many cases were made for a committee last night. It'd be like owning a Giants back. Which one are you playing? One of them? ALL of them?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I don't see the problem. Bloom predicted CMike will be this year's CJ Anderson. And he's spot on -- CMike is just as useless as this year's CJ Anderson.
Home run.
addicted2ff
Footballguy
Bloom is just a risk taker and someone who likes to go for the home run instead of the guys who have a lower ceiling but are more of a sure thing. Not trying to defend him as I also see Cmike as a drop or maybe end of the bench stash in deeper leagues. Just pointing that out so when you hear his advice you can generally know that he overvalues guys who he perceives to have a higher ceiling/lower floor and undervalues the ones that he perceives to have a lower ceiling/higher floor.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Unloading a guy a week after you drop 50% of your FAAB doesn't sound like sound advice.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Dropped him for Orleans Darkwa in my 12 teamer and Davante Adams in my 10... Really doubt there will be a mad rush to get him.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Used my waiver priority on DMC 
It is his job to lose right now IMO... I want whoever the starter is, clearly not Christine.
It is his job to lose right now IMO... I want whoever the starter is, clearly not Christine.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok let's do some actual fantasy football.
The Cowboys average ~26 carries per game, which is top 5 I believe.
The Seahawks' opponents run around 21 times a game, ~15th in the league.
The Cowboys know throwing the ball is a risky proposition.
What will be the carries for McFadden and Michael vs the Seahawks?
The Cowboys average ~26 carries per game, which is top 5 I believe.
The Seahawks' opponents run around 21 times a game, ~15th in the league.
The Cowboys know throwing the ball is a risky proposition.
What will be the carries for McFadden and Michael vs the Seahawks?
tandl71
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
hindsight is 20-20 and no one knows the future. He's had plenty of hits and misses and sometimes falls in love with certain guys (and openly admits it) but overall I think he's really knowledgeable and helped me quite a bit through the years. If you don't like him or his advice ignore it...pretty easy to do.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
For point of reference that NYG game was the most carries/touches for McFadden since 2012. It was nearly three times the max number of carries he's had in any one Cowboys game.
What I've gathered from the explanations of why he almost never saw the field in Seattle is that he's just not good at picking up the offense. Football is an incredibly complex game, and you need to understand it deeply to play it well, so that split-second decisions (lane to pick, who to block, etc) come automatically. I see C-Mike as a powerful wind-up toy; you have to point him in the right direction. That doesn't work in reality. He strikes me as a lesser Jerick McKinnon, who had similarly impressive athletic measurables but ceded lots of carries to the immortal Matt Asiata. When all's said and done, he may have more pages in this thread than yards this year.
Alexanderson
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
there's got to some reason why despite his physical tools that he doesn't get a real shot.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'll admit this doesn't necessarily qualify as losing his cool, but taken in context some subscribers were voicing their opinion that they were unhappy with the services provided by the subscription. Instead of taking those concerns and trying to solve them, he ultimately went on the defensive and came across as "if it's not worth it, don't pay" as opposed to going the route of, every subscriber is important to us so let us know how we can make it better. In my line of work if you tell someone don't like it take a hike, you're going to lose patients left and right.
David Dodds said:
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/736140-articles-daily-ff/David Dodds said:
/hijack
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
What are the odds that McFadden gets hurt in the next two games? 100%?
Christina Michael looks like a prima donna bust, but he might win the starter job by default.
Christina Michael looks like a prima donna bust, but he might win the starter job by default.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Bashing on Bloom for putting his flag in the ground and sticking with CM is easy to do now. Everyone misses on players. He's hit on players in the past too. He did similar things with Kelce last year and it paid off. But I do admit the man crush on CM sticks out in his opinions. The second I saw him and others in this thread using his 1 carry the other game as a positive I laughed. Greatest 6 yards in a long time.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Yes hindsight is 20/20, but to upgrade the 4th string RB after game 1 because the starters didn't wow is ridiculous. Again, Lacy has been worse than Randle but Starks hasn't gotten a weekly upgrade.
It seems like a lot of the FBG contributors get stuck on "their guy" and they won't let go. What's wrong with having several guys, and some pan out and some don't? You see it in this thread... People are clinging to hope that cm will work out, many of them just for their ego boost so they can say, "look I called it." Great, good for you. We've all gotten a player right and we've all gotten them dead wrong. When you pay for content you're kind of paying for an unbiased view of everyone. I have my biased opinions on players, and it's why my team looks very similar every year. I'd prefer a level headed approach to my information. I think it's clear FBG has too many people who cling to their guy and their articles show their bias. I think the info in this forum is more timely, more unbiased (or at least several opinions allowing one to see through the bias and observe the big picture), and more informative. Says a lot about most of the people in here. Some of the folks in here ought to start their own website, seriously.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It could be zero. I believe McFadden can stay healthy with 30 touches a game. Or he could get hurt playing the Seahawks and you've got one guy sitting on top of a major run game. - Or the Cowboys may do what the Raiders did and give McFadden some rest by limiting his touches, but unlike the old Raiders this Cowboys team has a ton of RB touches to split up if they do that.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I think the key for Bloom is the talent meets opportunity thing. Dallas is a big run game, as a whole, cut into several pieces. The magnitude of what you could get out of it is big, but the chance is small. The man is paid to find players who win leagues off the waiver wire. That's a small set of candidates.
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