CJ Spiller (1 Viewer)

[sidetrax]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?

From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?

I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

 

[Koya]

Spiller (whom I have one one team) is a stash and hope guy at this point. He has talent and breakaway ability. If that team can stabilize somewhat, they will show off the other backs perhaps in an attempt to build some trade value, but the last half of the season I can see Spiller getting more and more time. He could be someone that helps propel teams for a playoff push and in the fantasy players, and those RBs can have huge influence on how leagues turn out... but I dont see him having any real value over the next month.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

Was just released outright in one of my leagues. I haven't decided yet whether to put in a claim.

 

[Wrigley]

I dropped him for Snelling as my #4-5

 

[Matt Waldman]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

 

[HellToupee]

with so many holes why did Buffalo draft Spiller only to basically sit him?

someone has a lot of explaining to do

 

[Casting Couch]

At this moment, he's probably a drop in redraft leagues, and a stash in dynasty leagues.

 

[Liquid Tension]

with so many holes why did Buffalo draft Spiller only to basically sit him?someone has a lot of explaining to do

 

[Koya]

with so many holes why did Buffalo draft Spiller only to basically sit him?someone has a lot of explaining to do

My guess (well, other than the Bill's general lack of acumen putting together a competitive franchise in recent years) would be the injuries during the preseason forced Buffalo's hand into thrusting Spiller into a much larger role, far sooner than they had expected or planned. The NFL is a different beast, and when you look at guys like Spiller who are not "traditional" type three down backs, I think the learning curve is that much greater. Its about the playbook and knowing just where to be at all times, its about patience in running and reading your blocks in a FAR faster game where Spillers speed alone wont do it, especially considering there are guys on the other side of the ball that are right up there. Perhaps most of all, there is pass protection/blocking.I would wager to guess that Spiller has a ways to go on all of these fronts and the team probably planned to have the guy study and learn during the early part of the season and then begin to take a bigger and bigger role during the second half of the year.As such he still presents value for rosters that allow for stashing a guy that has some very nice upside - but that upside may or may not be realized, it may or may not be seen this year, and either way that upside would be down the line a good number of weeks unless as happened earlier, injuries for the Bills' hand.

 

[rowmacks]

Buy low, especially in keeper / dynasty if you can. Yes he's on the billies, but something has to change in Buffalo.... right?

 

[Christo]

Buy low, especially in keeper / dynasty if you can. Yes he's on the billies, but something has to change in Buffalo.... right?

A lot of Lynch owners have been holding out for that change for a while.

 

[Clifford]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=557469

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=557670

both of these are more than two pages and discuss the Buff mess in detail. Lots of good homer insight. Long story short: Buffalo is going nowhere and neither is Spiller. Also, Gailey is a tard.

 

[Casting Couch]

Buy low, especially in keeper / dynasty if you can. Yes he's on the billies, but something has to change in Buffalo.... right?

Something has had to change for the Bills for two decades now.

 

[Neofight]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Spiller and McFadden, unless you are talking about the two being drafted by moribund franchises. Could you expand?

 

[tombonneau]

Was just traded straight up for Todd Heap in one league. The owner who dealt him is a bit irrational and stubborn and would defend any decision (no matter how insane) to the death, so I'm sure this is atypical, but certainly a barometer for what Spiller owners think of him.

I drafted him in my work league and while not actively shopping him (I mean, it's a work league), I would welcome anyone who wants to buy low.

 

[TeamSnooki]

FWIW - Spiller just got traded for Percy Harvin in my league.

 

[Matt Waldman]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Spiller and McFadden, unless you are talking about the two being drafted by moribund franchises. Could you expand?

Sure. McFadden came into the league as an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but McFadden did not maintain strong pad level when finishing runs or encountering collisions with defenders as a college player. Media-manufactured highlights loved to show McFadden running over the occasional undersized linebacker or a DB, but he got owned against first and second level defenders consistently. He also didn't make great decisions as an interior runner and this all carried over during his initial time in the NFL. Spiller is an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but in college (which many people will dispute what I just said is true, but I've maintained since last fall on this board) he did not always show good patience, he didn't take what the defense gave him and went for high-risk plays that resulted in losses, and he didn't always maintain good pad level to finish runs. In essence McFadden and Spiller at the same point in their careers in college and early NFL were players with lots of physical skill, but unrefined technique to be a consistently good runner in every situation. Spiller needs to watch more film, learn how to prioritize down and distance situations into his decision-making, and refine his techniques such as pad level.

 

[Man In The Box]

Just traded Forsett for Spiller in a 10 team redraft. He's my RB5. I think he's a good stash for later in the season.

 

[gradin123]

He certainly has fallen in value a ton.

But, let's watch what happens this weekend. All Gailey said was that Lynch would play a lot and Spiller would be eased in a bit, some people interpret that as meaning Spiller will barely play this week and Lynch will dominate the carries. Maybe Spiller won't play much but if they are planning on using him more this week would they tell the Pats about it ahead of time? Lynch looked good in the first half last week but he was probably extra motivated by the Packers trade rumors. Afterall, who wouldn't want to get out of Buffalo. That being said, Lynch did nearly nothing in the second half.

As a Marshawn Lynch owner from last year I can tell you with certainty that Jackson is a better overall back so IMO any love for Lynch is unfounded. This situation is a mess but I do expect Spiller to become more involved at some point.

 

[T with T]

He certainly has fallen in value a ton.But, let's watch what happens this weekend. All Gailey said was that Lynch would play a lot and Spiller would be eased in a bit, some people interpret that as meaning Spiller will barely play this week and Lynch will dominate the carries. Maybe Spiller won't play much but if they are planning on using him more this week would they tell the Pats about it ahead of time? Lynch looked good in the first half last week but he was probably extra motivated by the Packers trade rumors. Afterall, who wouldn't want to get out of Buffalo. That being said, Lynch did nearly nothing in the second half.As a Marshawn Lynch owner from last year I can tell you with certainty that Jackson is a better overall back so IMO any love for Lynch is unfounded. This situation is a mess but I do expect Spiller to become more involved at some point.

I think alot of people just think spiller is doing something wrong because he isn't playing.. Spiller is a great back and can score on any play he has the ball. The bills need to use spiller like the lions use Best or like the eagles use Mccoy..... the bills are the bills and have been losers for as long as you can remember so what do you expect from a piss poor organization with mentally deficient coaches/gms/ and fans.... sorry buffalo but you guys just turn every thing into lumps of Coal.... I never thought spiller would only have 1 carry in a game... pure stupidity

 

[gianmarco]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Spiller and McFadden, unless you are talking about the two being drafted by moribund franchises. Could you expand?

Sure. McFadden came into the league as an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but McFadden did not maintain strong pad level when finishing runs or encountering collisions with defenders as a college player. Media-manufactured highlights loved to show McFadden running over the occasional undersized linebacker or a DB, but he got owned against first and second level defenders consistently. He also didn't make great decisions as an interior runner and this all carried over during his initial time in the NFL. Spiller is an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but in college (which many people will dispute what I just said is true, but I've maintained since last fall on this board) he did not always show good patience, he didn't take what the defense gave him and went for high-risk plays that resulted in losses, and he didn't always maintain good pad level to finish runs. In essence McFadden and Spiller at the same point in their careers in college and early NFL were players with lots of physical skill, but unrefined technique to be a consistently good runner in every situation. Spiller needs to watch more film, learn how to prioritize down and distance situations into his decision-making, and refine his techniques such as pad level.

Matt, I respect your opinion, but at this point, this has nothing to do with HOW Spiller is running. It has everything to do with the fact that he's not even being used. This is where the comparisons end with McFadden bc it's not as if he's making the mistakes you outlined above. In fact, during the preseason, he looked fantastic (yes, I know, just preseason). Now if it's your contention that Spiller isn't being used because of what you described above, then I completely disagree. They aren't holding him out of the game because of his pad level or lack of patience, IMO. Let's wait until he actually takes the field and fails before we start saying "see, this is what I've been saying all along".

 

[Frot]

WHAT IF the Bills are holding him to limited game time because they are working on a deal to trade him to Green Bay and do not want him to get hurt.

 

[Matt Waldman]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Spiller and McFadden, unless you are talking about the two being drafted by moribund franchises. Could you expand?

Sure. McFadden came into the league as an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but McFadden did not maintain strong pad level when finishing runs or encountering collisions with defenders as a college player. Media-manufactured highlights loved to show McFadden running over the occasional undersized linebacker or a DB, but he got owned against first and second level defenders consistently. He also didn't make great decisions as an interior runner and this all carried over during his initial time in the NFL. Spiller is an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but in college (which many people will dispute what I just said is true, but I've maintained since last fall on this board) he did not always show good patience, he didn't take what the defense gave him and went for high-risk plays that resulted in losses, and he didn't always maintain good pad level to finish runs. In essence McFadden and Spiller at the same point in their careers in college and early NFL were players with lots of physical skill, but unrefined technique to be a consistently good runner in every situation. Spiller needs to watch more film, learn how to prioritize down and distance situations into his decision-making, and refine his techniques such as pad level.

Matt, I respect your opinion, but at this point, this has nothing to do with HOW Spiller is running. It has everything to do with the fact that he's not even being used. This is where the comparisons end with McFadden bc it's not as if he's making the mistakes you outlined above. In fact, during the preseason, he looked fantastic (yes, I know, just preseason). Now if it's your contention that Spiller isn't being used because of what you described above, then I completely disagree. They aren't holding him out of the game because of his pad level or lack of patience, IMO. Let's wait until he actually takes the field and fails before we start saying "see, this is what I've been saying all along".

We'll agree to disagree then. I think Spiller has shown in the preseason and limited time in the regular season that he makes questionable decisions that lead to 4 carry and -6 yard starts that put the offensive behind the eight ball and if they are fortunate to remain in the game for any length of time then Spiller might reel off a 30-yard run that makes his stats look decent, but doesn't show how he hurts the offense's ability to maintain a game plan. I completely disagree with you that Spiller looked fantastic. He did exactly what he's done at Clemson - he's a homerun hitter that strikes out but keeps swinging away until he hits one or he gets pulled. He has to learn how to temper that desire to go for the home run on every run. Chan Gailey has said he needs to be eased into the lineup because they tried to put too much on him at once. I know you don't agree, but I prefer to trust my eyes and Chan Gailey's words.

 

[steelwind]

WHAT IF the Bills are holding him to limited game time because they are working on a deal to trade him to Green Bay and do not want him to get hurt.

I'm not sure if that will work. GB will have to give up a 1st round pick in return since Spiller is a 1st round pick right?

 

[Neofight]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Spiller and McFadden, unless you are talking about the two being drafted by moribund franchises. Could you expand?

Sure. McFadden came into the league as an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but McFadden did not maintain strong pad level when finishing runs or encountering collisions with defenders as a college player. Media-manufactured highlights loved to show McFadden running over the occasional undersized linebacker or a DB, but he got owned against first and second level defenders consistently. He also didn't make great decisions as an interior runner and this all carried over during his initial time in the NFL. Spiller is an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but in college (which many people will dispute what I just said is true, but I've maintained since last fall on this board) he did not always show good patience, he didn't take what the defense gave him and went for high-risk plays that resulted in losses, and he didn't always maintain good pad level to finish runs. In essence McFadden and Spiller at the same point in their careers in college and early NFL were players with lots of physical skill, but unrefined technique to be a consistently good runner in every situation. Spiller needs to watch more film, learn how to prioritize down and distance situations into his decision-making, and refine his techniques such as pad level.

Thanks, this is solid info. While I did not see the majority of the second game, I did watch the first game closely and to me it seemed as though Spiller was more apprehensive than anything; he seemed a bit timid to hit the holes (not that there were many), which was different from what he had flashed in the preseason. Of course, the preseason is just that. I was thinking his performance in that first game may have been due to some butterflies coupled with some truly atrocious offensive play overall, but I see what you are saying. From a purely physical ability standpoint, I don't think McFadden has ever shown the ability Spiller did in college. His game speed has just never impressed me on that level, and that includes through the first few games of this season. Plus I see Spiller's body type being one that will allow for a much lower pad level as opposed to McFadden, who looks to me a lot like a WR/RB tweener; he runs more upright than most backs.Ultimately though I think this boils down to opportunity. I'd be surprised if Spiller doesn't get some by years end.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Spiller owner here - I'm holding and not actively trying to move him. 2 games is too small of a sample size to give up on a guy who the Bills have so much invested in and who looked like the best offensive player on the team during the preseason.

 

[CaptainHook]

can someone link me to waldman talking about jahvid best ?

best staff member by far (not a knock on the other guys hes just really great)

 

[[icon]]

He's my #5 behind CJ3 / Thomas / Foster / Tolbert (Start 2 - 14T)

I was offered Barber for him and declined. Holding as potential value later in the year. Why sell at his lowest possibly value? If you've got the room, move him. If you don't, try to package him in a 2 for 1 to consolidate some value.

 

[TheBoyzguru]

With the re-emergence of Lynch and just general lack of clarity in the BUF backfield how far has Spiller's value fallen?From a strictly depth perspective should Chris Ivory be placed ahead of him now?I know where they're listed in the top 250+ but I see nothing good happening for Spiller any time soon.

Think Darren McFadden - the talent is there, but he'll need more time to develop. If he can learn he'll be a good player. If he can't, he'll be a bust. McFadden is coming around, but it took a few years. Spiller will have ups and downs if he plays this year, I think its as simple as that.

I'm not sure I see the parallels between Spiller and McFadden, unless you are talking about the two being drafted by moribund franchises. Could you expand?

Sure. McFadden came into the league as an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but McFadden did not maintain strong pad level when finishing runs or encountering collisions with defenders as a college player. Media-manufactured highlights loved to show McFadden running over the occasional undersized linebacker or a DB, but he got owned against first and second level defenders consistently. He also didn't make great decisions as an interior runner and this all carried over during his initial time in the NFL. Spiller is an extremely fast player with receiving skills that everyone thought was going to have an instant impact, but in college (which many people will dispute what I just said is true, but I've maintained since last fall on this board) he did not always show good patience, he didn't take what the defense gave him and went for high-risk plays that resulted in losses, and he didn't always maintain good pad level to finish runs. In essence McFadden and Spiller at the same point in their careers in college and early NFL were players with lots of physical skill, but unrefined technique to be a consistently good runner in every situation. Spiller needs to watch more film, learn how to prioritize down and distance situations into his decision-making, and refine his techniques such as pad level.

Matt, I respect your opinion, but at this point, this has nothing to do with HOW Spiller is running. It has everything to do with the fact that he's not even being used. This is where the comparisons end with McFadden bc it's not as if he's making the mistakes you outlined above. In fact, during the preseason, he looked fantastic (yes, I know, just preseason). Now if it's your contention that Spiller isn't being used because of what you described above, then I completely disagree. They aren't holding him out of the game because of his pad level or lack of patience, IMO. Let's wait until he actually takes the field and fails before we start saying "see, this is what I've been saying all along".

I would agree quite a bit with this posting. Matt is fantastic and his track records speaks for itself. I dont see the similarities other than speed at all. Physically Mcfadden is a tall Dickerson/Robert Smith kind of runner. Spiller is shorter and if anything is more Reggie Bush. The thing that a lot of people are seeming to forget is that Lynch is a talented player. He is an everydown type of back and I reckon that he will be the Bills Pierre Thomas with Spiller eventually into a Bush like role. I think Spiller could be more but that is what it is looking like to me. The key here is patience in letting the role develop over the first half the season. For the optimists out there, Charles a year ago didnt have his first double digit game until Week 10 and then went on a one man wrecking crew the remainder of the year. Spiller has a similar skillset and potential IMO.

 

[Jewell]

Spiller owner here - I'm holding and not actively trying to move him. 2 games is too small of a sample size to give up on a guy who the Bills have so much invested in and who looked like the best offensive player on the team during the preseason.

Yeah, you'd have to sell Spiller too low at the investment you put in. I don't think preseason matters that much because of the level of competition, but the Bills invested too high a pick to not get Spiller involved somehow. Gailey needs to get creative, but I'm not sure Chan has that in him.The QB & O-line don't really help either.

 

[Spaces Lines and Laces]

He's clearly 3rd on the depth chart, and my guess is he needs to earn touches moving forward.

I haven't seen any of him since the pre-season, but I think I read he was playing with no patience, and not letting the blocks develop.

The other 2 guys have at least that much down, and are going to do a better job of moving the chains until Spiller picks it up.

It seems like they like to get him a few touches in the passing game hoping he'll break one. But, at this point, anything over 10 touches in a game seems like gravy for him.

 

[Clifford]

Funny, the Bills stats through two games look like what you would see from most teams in 1

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/stats

QB: 241 yards, 1 td, 2 int

Lead Back: 20 rush for 77 yards

WR1: 6 for 71

WR2: 4 for 69

WR3: 3 for 34

The Bills are literally half a team

 

[Spaces Lines and Laces]

Funny, the Bills stats through two games look like what you would see from most teams in 1

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/buf/stats

QB: 241 yards, 1 td, 2 int

Lead Back: 20 rush for 77 yards

WR1: 6 for 71

WR2: 4 for 69

WR3: 3 for 34

The Bills are literally half a team

"We lose as half a team, and we...well we just lose as half a team."

 

[Frot]

I have CJ and I am holding him, but I don;t really have much hope here. As a Cowboys fan I have seen the genius of Chan Gailey

 

[Matt Waldman]

[i would agree quite a bit with this posting. Matt is fantastic and his track records speaks for itself. I dont see the similarities other than speed at all. Physically Mcfadden is a tall Dickerson/Robert Smith kind of runner. Spiller is shorter and if anything is more Reggie Bush.

The thing that a lot of people are seeming to forget is that Lynch is a talented player. He is an everydown type of back and I reckon that he will be the Bills Pierre Thomas with Spiller eventually into a Bush like role.

I think Spiller could be more but that is what it is looking like to me. The key here is patience in letting the role develop over the first half the season.

The similarity isn't in physical appearance, it's in technique. Not how they look, but how they play or don't play.

Robert Smith and Dickerson had power. McFadden's power was vastly overrated in college and actually a liability in many situations.

Remember, it's two games and players can improve. I think people get their egos too wrapped up in someone simply stating that Spiller is not ready to be a superstar yet. He has that upside, but he needs to learn. He'll be up and down until he does. I think it will take a couple of years to fully get there, but hey, I thought the same thing of Chris Johnson. I just think people are seeing the pleasant tip of the iceberg when they look at C.J. Spiller's highlight runs.

 

[Breesisdaman]

[i would agree quite a bit with this posting. Matt is fantastic and his track records speaks for itself. I dont see the similarities other than speed at all. Physically Mcfadden is a tall Dickerson/Robert Smith kind of runner. Spiller is shorter and if anything is more Reggie Bush.

The thing that a lot of people are seeming to forget is that Lynch is a talented player. He is an everydown type of back and I reckon that he will be the Bills Pierre Thomas with Spiller eventually into a Bush like role.

I think Spiller could be more but that is what it is looking like to me. The key here is patience in letting the role develop over the first half the season.

The similarity isn't in physical appearance, it's in technique. Not how they look, but how they play or don't play.

Robert Smith and Dickerson had power. McFadden's power was vastly overrated in college and actually a liability in many situations.

Remember, it's two games and players can improve. I think people get their egos too wrapped up in someone simply stating that Spiller is not ready to be a superstar yet. He has that upside, but he needs to learn. He'll be up and down until he does. I think it will take a couple of years to fully get there, but hey, I thought the same thing of Chris Johnson. I just think people are seeing the pleasant tip of the iceberg when they look at C.J. Spiller's highlight runs.

To answer the OP's question, I am dropping him for Chris Ivory. Even a scrub (Which Ivory is not) will get more points in a Saints offense than spiller who is not hardly seeing the field with two backs ahead of him.

 

[steelwind]

[i would agree quite a bit with this posting. Matt is fantastic and his track records speaks for itself. I dont see the similarities other than speed at all. Physically Mcfadden is a tall Dickerson/Robert Smith kind of runner. Spiller is shorter and if anything is more Reggie Bush.

The thing that a lot of people are seeming to forget is that Lynch is a talented player. He is an everydown type of back and I reckon that he will be the Bills Pierre Thomas with Spiller eventually into a Bush like role.

I think Spiller could be more but that is what it is looking like to me. The key here is patience in letting the role develop over the first half the season.

The similarity isn't in physical appearance, it's in technique. Not how they look, but how they play or don't play.

Robert Smith and Dickerson had power. McFadden's power was vastly overrated in college and actually a liability in many situations.

Remember, it's two games and players can improve. I think people get their egos too wrapped up in someone simply stating that Spiller is not ready to be a superstar yet. He has that upside, but he needs to learn. He'll be up and down until he does. I think it will take a couple of years to fully get there, but hey, I thought the same thing of Chris Johnson. I just think people are seeing the pleasant tip of the iceberg when they look at C.J. Spiller's highlight runs.

To answer the OP's question, I am dropping him for Chris Ivory. Even a scrub (Which Ivory is not) will get more points in a Saints offense than spiller who is not hardly seeing the field with two backs ahead of him.

It's your team but I wouldn't do this. Spiller is a "hold" for now. He will have some nice TD runs at some point this year.

 

[Siegfried]

[i would agree quite a bit with this posting. Matt is fantastic and his track records speaks for itself. I dont see the similarities other than speed at all. Physically Mcfadden is a tall Dickerson/Robert Smith kind of runner. Spiller is shorter and if anything is more Reggie Bush.

The thing that a lot of people are seeming to forget is that Lynch is a talented player. He is an everydown type of back and I reckon that he will be the Bills Pierre Thomas with Spiller eventually into a Bush like role.

I think Spiller could be more but that is what it is looking like to me. The key here is patience in letting the role develop over the first half the season.

The similarity isn't in physical appearance, it's in technique. Not how they look, but how they play or don't play.

Robert Smith and Dickerson had power. McFadden's power was vastly overrated in college and actually a liability in many situations.

Remember, it's two games and players can improve. I think people get their egos too wrapped up in someone simply stating that Spiller is not ready to be a superstar yet. He has that upside, but he needs to learn. He'll be up and down until he does. I think it will take a couple of years to fully get there, but hey, I thought the same thing of Chris Johnson. I just think people are seeing the pleasant tip of the iceberg when they look at C.J. Spiller's highlight runs.

To answer the OP's question, I am dropping him for Chris Ivory. Even a scrub (Which Ivory is not) will get more points in a Saints offense than spiller who is not hardly seeing the field with two backs ahead of him.

It's your team but I wouldn't do this. Spiller is a "hold" for now. He will have some nice TD runs at some point this year.

In a redraft, he is pretty much garbage. I cut him when I picked up D.Thomas off the WW.Dynasty, he may be a hold. Redraft better to just cut bait and run.

 

[Boston]

Like every other Spiller owner I'm very discouraged by the first two weeks...even a Spiller critic probably didn't see this level of unproductivity or usage...especially after looking so good in preseason. That being said I can't help but go back to my expereience last year with another potential home-runner hitter in Jamal Charles. He didn't have more than six carries the first eight weeks of the year (i.e. when I dropped him) and after that he went off. That may mean nothing as far as Spiller is concerned...that being said I think it would be foolish to drop him for some random waiver-wire pick-up...the kid was a dynamo in college and was a top 10 draft pick...to give up on him on him after two weeks has far more downside than than the upside of almost anyone you are going to replace him with...stick with him and cross your fingers that your faith is rewarded.

 

[gary mexico]

I traded away Spiller and VJax away for AJ a month before the season in one of my dynasty leagues. Feeling very good about that right now....

 

[jafo]

Hold him guys. Just ask those that gave up too early on Jamaal Charles last year how it worked out.

 

[gerome]

I dropped Clinton Portis his rookie year because I lacked patience. He then decided to go off rest of year. I will now go to the grave with CJ.

 

[KillerToad]

I just put Spiller on my IR and took Louis Murphy off of it. That's how far he has fallen.

 

[killrobotkill]

Looks like he's stopped falling. He has more of a role in the offense today than he did last week.

 

[schlesinj]

Looks like he's stopped falling. He has more of a role in the offense today than he did last week.

And a KOR for TD.

 

[MU Seminole]

And a reception for a TD.

 

[FGITLOTR]

thoughts on how many see him being more involved moving forward?

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

I think as long as he is doing kick return duties, He will probably be limited to 15 or so touches in the offense per game. If he's like Jamaal Charles, he can do some electric things with those 15 touches and still be fantasy viable but at this point, its probably a pipe dream to see him more involved in the offense than that this season. Gailey does seem to like a power aspect to his running game and Lynch has won some favor with this staff for his power game. Its still possible that Lynch might get dealt by the deadline but then I would expect Jackson to take over that role with Spiller's role not changing appreciably.

 

[Dr. No]

Is there any chance of spiller getting 10-15 carries a game this season?

would he even be good if he got them?

 

[scott72]

Buffalo is awful. The way they are run is awful. They don't want to trade any of their backs so I'd get whatever I could for Spiller if I owned him. He's worthless right now in re-draft leagues.