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[Jayrod]

Just joined fbg2 tonight. I am "Jay 2 the Rod." I am still verrrrrry weak, but have only been playing about a week.

I will finish TH5 by noon tomorrow. I have been doing a lot of attacks to hit the 1250 trophy level to get my 4th builder.

At what point do you start working on your defense? I haven't even built a mortar yet, didn't want to tie up a builder for 8 hours. I assume I should get myself protected a bit if I'm going to be of any value.

Any tips at all would be appreciated as I don't want to be a detriment to the team.

 

[igbomb]

I sort of wonder if we all made an effort if we could dedicate a week to pushing trophies to crystal together. Reddit clan has done this in the past with a couple of ubers helping like 40 people get there in a week

Why, for the gems? Or is there another reason?

 

[beer 30]

Just joined fbg2 tonight. I am "Jay 2 the Rod." I am still verrrrrry weak, but have only been playing about a week.

I will finish TH5 by noon tomorrow. I have been doing a lot of attacks to hit the 1250 trophy level to get my 4th builder.

At what point do you start working on your defense? I haven't even built a mortar yet, didn't want to tie up a builder for 8 hours. I assume I should get myself protected a bit if I'm going to be of any value.

Any tips at all would be appreciated as I don't want to be a detriment to the team.

Read the first few posts, is our collective knowledge of CoC. I'd also advocate just continue doing what you are doing to TH7, then start worrying about defense & walls. At that level you can do some serious raiding that will allow you to fund everything fairly quickly. Just did this with one of my accounts on the suggestion of culdeus, great idea.

 

[EYLive]

I sort of wonder if we all made an effort if we could dedicate a week to pushing trophies to crystal together. Reddit clan has done this in the past with a couple of ubers helping like 40 people get there in a week

How would this work? I could use the gems.

 

[bshell27]

I hate this game. Sitting on 4 million gold/elixir forced me to buy the 5th builder. Another $20 sunk into this ####. I officially have a problem.

 

[culdeus]

I sort of wonder if we all made an effort if we could dedicate a week to pushing trophies to crystal together. Reddit clan has done this in the past with a couple of ubers helping like 40 people get there in a week

How would this work? I could use the gems.

Basically everyone switches from barch to hogs mass drags or wiz and hits for trophies. Main change is to expect and give uber troops for cc defense/offense.

 

[freakinback]

I sort of wonder if we all made an effort if we could dedicate a week to pushing trophies to crystal together. Reddit clan has done this in the past with a couple of ubers helping like 40 people get there in a week

How would this work? I could use the gems.

Basically everyone switches from barch to hogs mass drags or wiz and hits for trophies. Main change is to expect and give uber troops for cc defense/offense.

Once you get to crystal you get a DE bonus. I am about 50 trophies away from crystal.

 

[EYLive]

Let's do it!! Though I'm not sure my lvl 4 donations would be helpful. I'd just ride coattails.

 

[coyote5]

Does anyone ever get irrationally annoyed about someone blowing up your town that you plan an expensive revenge attack that is clearly -ROI?

I just built a war-like dragon/hog army to blow up some guy because he took 300k/300k off of me. I took 150k/150k off of him after spending probably 300k on the army. I am totally fine with this.

Am I weird?

lol no i do it more than i care to admit!

 

[beer 30]

I hate this game. Sitting on 4 million gold/elixir forced me to buy the 5th builder. Another $20 sunk into this ####. I officially have a problem.

Well the good news, after springing for a 5th builder, what else do yo need to spend cash on the game for?

 

[Clayton Gray]

I hate this game. Sitting on 4 million gold/elixir forced me to buy the 5th builder. Another $20 sunk into this ####. I officially have a problem.

Well the good news, after springing for a 5th builder, what else do yo need to spend cash on the game for?

Well a builder won't be available for another couple of hours, but I really need to get some sleep. There's no way I want to risk this gold in storage all night, so might as well spend a few gems to free up a builder before going to bed.

 

[GregR]

I sort of wonder if we all made an effort if we could dedicate a week to pushing trophies to crystal together. Reddit clan has done this in the past with a couple of ubers helping like 40 people get there in a week

How would this work? I could use the gems.

Basically everyone switches from barch to hogs mass drags or wiz and hits for trophies. Main change is to expect and give uber troops for cc defense/offense.

Once you get to crystal you get a DE bonus. I am about 50 trophies away from crystal.

Freak, how is the gold earning there?

My only desire is to be earning for upgrades at thee best rate I can for the amount of free time I am going to put into the game. Most of the commentary I've seen about TH8s is that other ranges are a lot more profitable.

 

[GregR]

Since there was some confusion...

Attack +5 or +10 means take your rank in our clan, add the number to it and attack that base in their clan. So you are attacking a worse ranked base, not a better ranked base. Rank 20 if we're doing +5 attacks their #25 base.

 

[GregR]

Odin, your war base has a mortar sitting on the very outside edge where it's very easy for attackers to kill. You might want to move it and your Town Hall more into the middle. THere's no reason to keep your storages in the middle in a war, your resources are untouched. Better to put them where barb/arch/wiz will waste time killing the storage and their high health, while defenses shoot them down.

Edit to add: Same thing in your "jason" base. Mortar and anti-air both should be moved away from outside edge, you want those to be the most difficult defenses to get to and kill.

 

[GregR]

And Prime, your war base has your mortar all the way outside of your walls unprotected.

NOTE you guys need to click on the war prep button and use Edit War Base, your regular village is no longer the layout used in war.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

If I'm doing a 10 dragon attack, do I request another dragon in the CC?

Also, will three lvl 4 lightnings kill a lvl 4 AA?

Found the answer to the second on the forum.

 

[GregR]

If I'm doing a 10 dragon attack, do I request another dragon in the CC?

Also, will three lvl 4 lightnings kill a lvl 4 AA?

I would go with another dragon in the CC, yes.

For the lightnings... I think so. Scout the base and click on the AA and you'll see how many health it has and can compare it to the damage of your lightning.

 

[John Bender]

If I'm doing a 10 dragon attack, do I request another dragon in the CC?

Also, will three lvl 4 lightnings kill a lvl 4 AA?

I would go with another dragon in the CC, yes.

For the lightnings... I think so. Scout the base and click on the AA and you'll see how many health it has and can compare it to the damage of your lightning.

I would actual prefer hogs to kill the outer most air Def. Use lightning on the most central, hog the most outside one and your babies should run roughshod on the rest of the camp, gangster style.

 

[Instinctive]

3 level four lightnings has killed any AA I have ever faced, and I believe that goes up to a level 5 AA.

 

[GregR]

FBGs 8 attacks for 21 stars.

USC 10 attacks for 21 stars.

We got us a war, fellas.

 

[thecatch]

Step 1

 

[GregR]

FBGs 16 for 28 stars.
USC 18 for 29 stars.

 

[GregR]

If you use mass Dragons to attack, read this.

When deploying Dragons, you are best usually best off deploying them in a line along a single side of the base. Don't put them all in one spot, don't put them all in 2 spots, and don't wrap them around a corner.

The worst thing about dragons is the pathing. If you group them, they are likely to go off sideways, even circling around an AA while it kills them off. If you drop them all in a line, they move forward as a group for the most part, and buildings to the sides are killed by the other dragons so they keep moving forward together.

Another note... if you're going to lightning an AA, do it before you deploy your dragons. This war and past, I see a lot of times an AA will shoot dragons like 5 times before the lightning is dropped. There's no reason not to take it out before deploying the dragons and save that 500 health on the dragon.

 

[BostonRob]

Thanks Greg,

I assume you mean like they all attack one side of the wall a once:

(x is dragons, - walls)

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Not like this:

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x

x

x

x

x

I'm pretty sure, just want to be 100% as I plan a dragon attack with my second attack

/Zubayr

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think I need to reinstall the app. It isn't correctly displaying this war as a blowout.

 

[BostonRob]

BTW, any tips on which spells to use in a drag attack?

3 lightning on an AA?

Rage?

Mix?

I'm really not sure

/Zubayr

 

[thecatch]

BTW, any tips on which spells to use in a drag attack?

3 lightning on an AA?

Rage?

Mix?

I'm really not sure

/Zubayr

Lightning IMO

 

[GregR]

Thanks Greg,

I assume you mean like they all attack one side of the wall a once:

(x is dragons, - walls)

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xxxxxxxxxxx

Not like this:

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x

x

x

x

x

I'm pretty sure, just want to be 100% as I plan a dragon attack with my second attack

/Zubayr

Correct... you want the dragons flying side by side for the most part so they all move across the base in one sweep. The building to the left and right get killed by the dragon beside him, so each dragon moves in.

It doesn't have to be 100% evenly spread out, maybe there is an AA right near one edge so you drop an extra dragon near it to help speed it's death, that sort of thing. But spawning them in just one or two spots, or wrapping them around a corner, seldom works as well. Some of us actually design our base in part so dragons who go after a building outside the wall are unlikely to go back in until they circle most of the base.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Don't rely on heal spells to help hogs work their way to AD.

I was given four level 4 hogs and dropped a heal spell so that the canon, tower, & mortar was within the radius as the hogs wroked their way to the AD and all four died en route.Would have been better to spend the spell on lightning on the AD and an extra dragon instead of hogs.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Is there a round 2 strategy?

 

[AcerFC]

Is there a round 2 strategy?

People didnt follow the round 1 strategy, why wait for round 2

 

[Hawks64]

Is there a round 2 strategy?

People didnt follow the round 1 strategy, why wait for round 2

Yep, and we're not going to have any stars to spare this war IMO.

 

[John Bender]

Is there a round 2 strategy?

People didnt follow the round 1 strategy, why wait for round 2

This.

Whomever Linak is, remind me to be in the opposite clan going forward. Ridiculous that a few of you can't just be a team player and roll with the plan.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I followed the plan just botched up an easy dragon attack. Been snapping at my kid all morning. Can't find the angry smiley for some reason.

I'm all for booting Linak if he's going to honeypot in the middle of a tight war. Seriously BS.

For my second attack I guess I'll just find someone I know I can 3-star.

 

[Hawks64]

I followed the plan just botched up an easy dragon attack. Been snapping at my kid all morning. Can't find the angry smiley for some reason.

I'm all for booting Linak if he's going to honeypot in the middle of a tight war. Seriously BS.

For my second attack I guess I'll just find someone I know I can 3-star.

That's my plan for 2nd attack unless there is a better strategy in place prior to my attack.

 

[MindCrime]

Update:

Good guys- 50 attacks/ 92 stars

PAC 10- 37 attacks, 52 stars

Step 3?

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I usually just go with the "recommended" base for my second attack. I think I hit one someone else was prepping for - sorry about that. Wasn't trying to be a richard just wanting to get it done before bed time.

 

[freakinback]

I sort of wonder if we all made an effort if we could dedicate a week to pushing trophies to crystal together. Reddit clan has done this in the past with a couple of ubers helping like 40 people get there in a week

How would this work? I could use the gems.

Basically everyone switches from barch to hogs mass drags or wiz and hits for trophies. Main change is to expect and give uber troops for cc defense/offense.

Once you get to crystal you get a DE bonus. I am about 50 trophies away from crystal.

Freak, how is the gold earning there?

My only desire is to be earning for upgrades at thee best rate I can for the amount of free time I am going to put into the game. Most of the commentary I've seen about TH8s is that other ranges are a lot more profitable.

There is a lot of gold, but it is hard for my TH8 troops (200 + plus CC) to get it. I get a lot of 1 stars and resources from collectors. I then knock down a wall and rage with the BK and what troops I have left to get resources. I can't attack as often as I used too because I need my BK and wizards to get that one star and not drop trophies. It does seem to me that there is a lot more resources at gold 1 then gold 3. My guess is people are saving up for upgrades.

 

[GregR]

FBGs 56 attacks for 102 stars.

USC 40 attacks for 57 stars.

 

[igbomb]

Kanil/Linak -

Are you reading the thread or the chat log? I saw your comment that you didn't want to waste a slew of dragons on your target per our plan (46) so you went sky high instead (23), but couldn't pull off the three star. Then on your second attack you went even higher (16) and did even worse.

So we know you knew of the plan but completely ignored it. Several folks are advocating that you be bumped out of the clan before the next war. You're an active player so we would rather not dump you but you gotta let us know that you're back on board with the strategy going forward. Otherwise you can chase your loot somewhere else.

The next war starts tonight. Hopefully you pipe up before we have to push the button.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Was he just attacking different targets and trying to win or was he honeypotting?

 

[PatsWillWin]

So I sucked this war with my dragon raids. I mentioned this in chat, but it's time I start using full hog raids. Never done it before because dragons have been so successful.

Any tips? From what I've seen:

1) Drawing out and killing CC is critical. What kind of crew do you guys bring along to make sure you can kill the CC? BK? Wizards? Archers? How many of each?

2) Looks like mainly go with healing pots, sometimes with rage.

3) I've seen some use all the hogs in one wave, some split them out into 2-3 different groups.

Where is the ideal place to drop them?

I've got LVL2 right now, I'll start aiming to build up to upgrade to LVL3 but it's going to be a long climb.

 

[igbomb]

Was he just attacking different targets and trying to win or was he honeypotting?

Not sure about the first one, but I don't see any way that the 2nd wasn't just a loot chase.

 

[VA703]

Was he just attacking different targets and trying to win or was he honeypotting?

I didn't watch either replay. But in previous wars ive seen linak reach ahead and get 3 stars so I wasn't surprised he went high.

 

[Cyclones]

Was he just attacking different targets and trying to win or was he honeypotting?

Not sure about the first one, but I don't see any way that the 2nd wasn't just a loot chase.

The stupid thing is, if we win this war, his CC won't even hold all the loot. I think his first attack, while a deviation from the plan, was a legit shot at 3 starring, but his level 2 dragons were unlikely to win that one. The second one was a pure loot play, which I don't understand. If you want loot, go raid bases like the rest of us, don't sabotage a war. Weak sauce.

I used 18 level 3 dragons and 6 level 4 lightning spells to be sure I 3 starred 2 targets +5 and +7. To me the ROI is of secondary importance to winning the war. Granted, we have had a very easy time of it in most wars, but this USC clan is legit. Need all the stars we can get IMHO.

 

[thecatch]

Was he just attacking different targets and trying to win or was he honeypotting?

I didn't watch either replay. But in previous wars ive seen linak reach ahead and get 3 stars so I wasn't surprised he went high.

I think all of us have won battles above our rank at some point, but when we are all trying to coordinate for the greater good, we can't have guys going off script IMO.

 

[Cyclones]

Update:

FBGS 68 for 116 stars

USC 42 for 59 stars

They'll probably be waking up in the next few hours and may still have some fight in them, but we've really poured it on since it was close early last night.

 

[coyote5]

So I sucked this war with my dragon raids. I mentioned this in chat, but it's time I start using full hog raids. Never done it before because dragons have been so successful.

Any tips? From what I've seen:

1) Drawing out and killing CC is critical. What kind of crew do you guys bring along to make sure you can kill the CC? BK? Wizards? Archers? How many of each?

2) Looks like mainly go with healing pots, sometimes with rage.

3) I've seen some use all the hogs in one wave, some split them out into 2-3 different groups.

Where is the ideal place to drop them?

I've got LVL2 right now, I'll start aiming to build up to upgrade to LVL3 but it's going to be a long climb.

Alot of the answers to the above are "it depends"

1. It depends. If the CC is central in the base and difficult to lure, you may need to use one or 2 giants/hogs to get within it's range to lure. CC troops don't all come out at once so the attacker needs to be within the CC's range until all troops come out.

Actually as I think about it, the best thing would be to go to our war, look at our top guys and watch how they do their attacks. Just about everyone is running hogs up there so that will give you visual ideas on how to lure the CC, what troops to use (barb/arch/wiz) and where to drop them.

Someone else like Greg can probably give much better answers re: how many to drop in one spot. I'll say that deciding where to drop them is an art and a guessing game, trying to figure out where the big bombs and spring traps are.

edit re: spells, go all heal. Rage aren't the best because they make the hogs actually too fast and they run out of range of the spell too quickly.

 

[MindCrime]

I agree with what Coyote said about hogs. One thing I like to do, if I don't know where traps/bombs are, is drop one hog, let him get to the target, then follow up with 5 more behind from the same drop point. That way, if there is a trap, you lose one hog, not 6.

 

[Clayton Gray]

So I sucked this war with my dragon raids. I mentioned this in chat, but it's time I start using full hog raids. Never done it before because dragons have been so successful.

Any tips? From what I've seen:

1) Drawing out and killing CC is critical. What kind of crew do you guys bring along to make sure you can kill the CC? BK? Wizards? Archers? How many of each?

2) Looks like mainly go with healing pots, sometimes with rage.

3) I've seen some use all the hogs in one wave, some split them out into 2-3 different groups.

Where is the ideal place to drop them?

I've got LVL2 right now, I'll start aiming to build up to upgrade to LVL3 but it's going to be a long climb.

Ultimate Hog Rider Attack Strategy Guide

The only part I disagree with is what level hogs are usable. In clan wars, I have no trouble with any TH8, and I use 30 level three hogs. With level two, you should be able to beat most underdeveloped TH8s and almost any TH7.