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Ballons suck, are they really that good later on? So you are saying I should keep up researching them?

I did notice that the best players in the world have Army Camps full of baloons
I think 85% of fbg 1 is running some kind of loonian (balloons and minions. Add in lava hounds also)
 
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
I 3 starred about 2/3 of the max TH8s I hit for the ~2 weeks I was a max TH8.
What army?

 
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
I 3 starred about 2/3 of the max TH8s I hit for the ~2 weeks I was a max TH8.
What time period was this?
It looks like you are a fairly new TH9. Queen is 4 so assume been there less than a month.

If the above is correct i'm impressed. In our experience the success rate of TH8 on TH8 is about 5%. I consider bases with deep aa and wt to be untouchable by a TH8. We see neither our TH8s or their TH8s able to touch these types of bases. In a situation where all TH8 Anti Air cover eachother it is simply not possible to wipe it out. I'd love to see some videos of these events.

 
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
I 3 starred about 2/3 of the max TH8s I hit for the ~2 weeks I was a max TH8.
What time period was this?
It looks like you are a fairly new TH9. Queen is 4 so assume been there less than a month.

If the above is correct i'm impressed. In our experience the success rate of TH8 on TH8 is about 5%. I consider bases with deep aa and wt to be untouchable by a TH8. We see neither our TH8s or their TH8s able to touch these types of bases. In a situation where all TH8 Anti Air cover eachother it is simply not possible to wipe it out. I'd love to see some videos of these events.
To answer for Grove, yes this was the past couple of weeks. I think he upgraded a little over a week ago.

 
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
I 3 starred about 2/3 of the max TH8s I hit for the ~2 weeks I was a max TH8.
What time period was this?
It looks like you are a fairly new TH9. Queen is 4 so assume been there less than a month.

If the above is correct i'm impressed. In our experience the success rate of TH8 on TH8 is about 5%. I consider bases with deep aa and wt to be untouchable by a TH8. We see neither our TH8s or their TH8s able to touch these types of bases. In a situation where all TH8 Anti Air cover eachother it is simply not possible to wipe it out. I'd love to see some videos of these events.
Too lazy to look for it, but didn't someone once mention that top players were making max TH8 secondary accounts because a clan of max TH8 gowipers would be unstoppable?

 
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
I 3 starred about 2/3 of the max TH8s I hit for the ~2 weeks I was a max TH8.
What time period was this?
It looks like you are a fairly new TH9. Queen is 4 so assume been there less than a month.

If the above is correct i'm impressed. In our experience the success rate of TH8 on TH8 is about 5%. I consider bases with deep aa and wt to be untouchable by a TH8. We see neither our TH8s or their TH8s able to touch these types of bases. In a situation where all TH8 Anti Air cover eachother it is simply not possible to wipe it out. I'd love to see some videos of these events.
Too lazy to look for it, but didn't someone once mention that top players were making max TH8 secondary accounts because a clan of max TH8 gowipers would be unstoppable?
Yes, for a period of time (I think before sandboxing, primarily) the top clans would use TH8 gowipe to keep the matchmaking low and help scout for hogs. They would fill the clan with maybe 20 of these guys and have them run at the TH9 that could be later hogged to find big bombs and then three star them if they needed.

TH8 don't hurt matchmaking much so if they can help to scout then great. Soon not only will they scout but donate massively upgraded troops.

 
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
I 3 starred about 2/3 of the max TH8s I hit for the ~2 weeks I was a max TH8.
What army?
Some were rage/heal or straight rage drag rushes. Some were hogged.

And I do agree that a great TH8 war base can be impossible or close to it. But a TH8 that buries the ADs and WTs is begging to be hogged and can be 3 starred.

I also think that everyone has kind of defaulted to drag rushes with skulls in the CC at TH8 and with deeper ADs, an L4 drag plus skull in the CC with rage/heal or just rages is a better idea.

 
derek245583 said:
Ballons suck, are they really that good later on? So you are saying I should keep up researching them?

I did notice that the best players in the world have Army Camps full of baloons
Note the chart at the bottom. Their damage goes up 50% an upgrade and health goes up like 40%. By the time of that final upgrade they become very lethal.

 
culdeus said:
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
My goal is to prove u wrong on #1

 
So has anyone leveled up Valks? And for those who have, do you ever use them?

They're literally my only research left. Normally I'd just do everything for the hell of it, but I would be diverting DE from hero upgrades

 
So has anyone leveled up Valks? And for those who have, do you ever use them?

They're literally my only research left. Normally I'd just do everything for the hell of it, but I would be diverting DE from hero upgrades
Only useful for the odd defensive troop.

They have shown up as an alternative to a 212 in some one hive raids where the cc is scouted already.

 
culdeus said:
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
My goal is to prove u wrong on #1
:popcorn:

I've been trying to 3* max TH8s with max TH8 armies for months now and failing, but getting closer lately, we all have been. If there's something to find, we'll help you find it in these practice wars. I'm watching every attack you make from now on so come correct :stalker:

 
So has anyone leveled up Valks? And for those who have, do you ever use them?

They're literally my only research left. Normally I'd just do everything for the hell of it, but I would be diverting DE from hero upgrades
Only useful for the odd defensive troop.

They have shown up as an alternative to a 212 in some one hive raids where the cc is scouted already.
Last OneHive attack here shows Valks can be useful offensively.
 
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I feel like Valks are kinda mini-Pekkas.
'Cept vulnerable to spring traps which is an expensive trap if you lose 3. Their speed does help as a cc defense troop when the attacker tries to use the 2/1/2. Its easy to make a mistake on countering and letting her get too close. We had that happen in this last war a couple times. Avoidable, yes. But, just one more detail to watch. She's also sneaky when the attacker uses an air unit to lure and she doesn't come out until the AQ or BK are placed. I dunno. The Valk has some use, but, seems to be very limited.

 
Congrats to the Quattraboogs for reaching level 2.

This is a huge boost to those of us with alts/poor brothers who play this game and are constantly spamming the "Request Troops" button.

 
I have much respect for culdy and doc despite some friendly ripping. But I think we would all be remiss if we didnt give it up for shoot me now. Guy has shown our entire clan the power of the lavaloon and I think we can see the benefits.

:clapshands:

 
I have much respect for culdy and doc despite some friendly ripping. But I think we would all be remiss if we didnt give it up for shoot me now. Guy has shown our entire clan the power of the lavaloon and I think we can see the benefits.

:clapshands:
smn is the man. As said in chat I'm ready to turn over the keys and be there in emergency only. doc and smn are a step function above my understanding of tracking and funneling and just life in general.

 
Congrats to the Quattraboogs for reaching level 2.

This is a huge boost to those of us with alts/poor brothers who play this game and are constantly spamming the "Request Troops" button.
What's the level 2 perk?

The immigrant farmers are sure to be grateful as well.

BTW, the migration is not completely finished. We expect a few more accounts to trickle over this week.

 
Congrats to the Quattraboogs for reaching level 2.

This is a huge boost to those of us with alts/poor brothers who play this game and are constantly spamming the "Request Troops" button.
how so? level 2 is pretty minor. You don't get kickbacks till level 3.

 
Congrats to the Quattraboogs for reaching level 2.

This is a huge boost to those of us with alts/poor brothers who play this game and are constantly spamming the "Request Troops" button.
What's the level 2 perk?

The immigrant farmers are sure to be grateful as well.

BTW, the migration is not completely finished. We expect a few more accounts to trickle over this week.
You only have to wait 15 minutes in between CC troop requests (down from 20).

CC war loot storage capacity +10%.

 
Congrats to the Quattraboogs for reaching level 2.

This is a huge boost to those of us with alts/poor brothers who play this game and are constantly spamming the "Request Troops" button.
how so? level 2 is pretty minor. You don't get kickbacks till level 3.
Sometimes I sit down with two devices and just spam skulls to my low level alt. The wait time is 25% shorter now. I also send skulls to my brother regularly, same thing. We also have Sprout who's farming a lot, we're feeding him a lot of troops. Just nice to have a shorter wait time.

Even the +10% loot storage is nice for low levels because if there's a high level pot target, you'll max that out quickly.

The perks are probably only helpful for a certain segment of players, but for those that are in it, it's relatively significant.

 
Congrats to the Quattraboogs for reaching level 2.

This is a huge boost to those of us with alts/poor brothers who play this game and are constantly spamming the "Request Troops" button.
how so? level 2 is pretty minor. You don't get kickbacks till level 3.
Sometimes I sit down with two devices and just spam skulls to my low level alt. The wait time is 25% shorter now. I also send skulls to my brother regularly, same thing. We also have Sprout who's farming a lot, we're feeding him a lot of troops. Just nice to have a shorter wait time.

Even the +10% loot storage is nice for low levels because if there's a high level pot target, you'll max that out quickly.

The perks are probably only helpful for a certain segment of players, but for those that are in it, it's relatively significant.
ok, i get that but you made it sound it was a nice perk when you were the only one donating.

 
So has anyone leveled up Valks? And for those who have, do you ever use them?

They're literally my only research left. Normally I'd just do everything for the hell of it, but I would be diverting DE from hero upgrades
Guy in my clan got them to lvl2 and uses them for offense on occasion. It works but I've never seen one that was a sure thing, it's always down to the wire and th8 he doesn't have enough troops to support it. They are badass in our lower level th's on defense but that's about it. I've seen a few sent in for cleanup duty on offense but again, there are better troops for that kind of thing.

 
So has anyone leveled up Valks? And for those who have, do you ever use them?

They're literally my only research left. Normally I'd just do everything for the hell of it, but I would be diverting DE from hero upgrades
I've had max valks for quite awhile. For a very long time I self-stocked my CC's with max valks and then some wizards. Doing ground attacks for normal raids, I found releasing the CC in the latter part of a raid was often pretty good, as enough defenses were already down the valk lasted forever, and her speed kept her out front of the wizards as a tank. Plus they were a good defensive combo with the valk tanking for the wiz.

I did one or two angry valk attacks in war but would have needed to do more to work out the nuances.

 
By the way, the war log was only getting kept up to date because I was actively prodding people to give me results. I'm just not spending enough time on it that's likely to happen.

But if it's important to you guys to have the history, I'd suggest each clan make a post and keep it updated on your own. PM the link to the post and I'll get the link into the OP, so you can keep it up to date whether I'm paying attention or not.

 
Sometimes, I feel like you guys aren't speaking English.
That's why there's a glossary on page 1.

( although it doesn't contain the new slang, like "Shattered Cold Blooded QuadLoon". These attacks are starting to sound like ordering hash browns at the Waffle House. Smothered, Covered and Diced please!)

 
Honda War history since 1/3 (the last one posted on page 1)

Honda 96 - Primal Warriors 78

Honda 92 - beautiful war 53

Honda 91 - Wolf Blood CoC 76

Honda 93 - McVIP 131

Honda 100 - AllMenMustDie 78

HOnda 96 - China 99

HOnda 107 - China 76

Honda 78 - You Take Point 98

Honda 76 - Fire & Reign 72

Now that i put it in writing we are very consistent in scoring. We even won a for-fun war where we didn't even try.

 
culdeus said:
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These are the three facts that I am operating on right now

  • TH8 is the only TH that cannot 100% max it's own max. Even TH10 has an easier time 3 starring a max TH10 than a TH8 on a TH8. This is a flaw in the game, but it is what it is.
  • The archer queen is the single biggest difference among-st TH10 and determines whether a raid is 1, 2, or 3 stars.
  • For the moment, the most overpowered troop is the skypig. TH9 have no real answer for it. The sooner you get there the better.
My goal is to prove u wrong on #1
:popcorn:

I've been trying to 3* max TH8s with max TH8 armies for months now and failing, but getting closer lately, we all have been. If there's something to find, we'll help you find it in these practice wars. I'm watching every attack you make from now on so come correct :stalker:
Well I got their top th8, would have had another but I forgot cc. Lol

You have the troops, so u should look into gowiva next war. Val's are faster and u can build lots more and they can absorb hits as well.

 
By the way, the war log was only getting kept up to date because I was actively prodding people to give me results. I'm just not spending enough time on it that's likely to happen.

But if it's important to you guys to have the history, I'd suggest each clan make a post and keep it updated on your own. PM the link to the post and I'll get the link into the OP, so you can keep it up to date whether I'm paying attention or not.
 
Sometimes, I feel like you guys aren't speaking English.
That's why there's a glossary on page 1.

( although it doesn't contain the new slang, like "Shattered Cold Blooded QuadLoon". These attacks are starting to sound like ordering hash browns at the Waffle House. Smothered, Covered and Diced please!)
That's hysterical. Like the specials on an ihop menu.
Chappy,

I was right there where you are a few months ago. If you have questions just ask. I know the lingo gets crazy but don't let it bother you. Our Clan Chat isn't quite as bad as in this thread.

Lots of people that'll help though if you are wondering something.

 
freeze finished lvl 4 I thin it is (7 seconds) just before last war.. game changer

was able to almost 3 star a th10.. might be due to the base layout but freeze is definitely OP

 
freeze finished lvl 4 I thin it is (7 seconds) just before last war.. game changer

was able to almost 3 star a th10.. might be due to the base layout but freeze is definitely OP
Exactly. No point in wasting time at TH9. Go directly to TH10 and start working on upgrading Lavalooneezion

 
There are some good bases out there that neutralize freeze, you definitely cannot bunch.

Jason three starred a 10 who had his AD beside his Inf Tower....big mistake.

 

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