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The Duff Man
Footballguy
Poison seems a lot more precise and effective killing the cc than a zap.
Plus you can lead the cc troops into the poison, even drop it in advance and ensure you get the whole cc.
Versus dropping your zap only after the cc has converged and begun pinging your golem.
Plus you can lead the cc troops into the poison, even drop it in advance and ensure you get the whole cc.
Versus dropping your zap only after the cc has converged and begun pinging your golem.
Even taking out the queen, you won't be able to level a decent base without spells.culdeus said:
In a hog raid, you can also get rid of that extra wizard that didn't get pulled or those skeletons that follow your pack around.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Yeah barbs and archers in cc are dead. A single poison kills them all quick.
Rise of the Valkyries??
Rise of the Valkyries??
MindCrime
Footballguy
The issue I see with Poison is that it looks to take a while, slowing down attacks even more. Zaps are quick. Combo of the 2 might be where it's at.
Also, the new spell space is weighted in favor of de spells, 2:1. Maybe 5 poisons and 3 regular spells?
Or hold one poison back for those air raids where the AQ has a sliver of health left, waiting for pups to approach.
Also, the new spell space is weighted in favor of de spells, 2:1. Maybe 5 poisons and 3 regular spells?
Or hold one poison back for those air raids where the AQ has a sliver of health left, waiting for pups to approach.
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culdeus
Footballguy
Saving 50 troop spots from a shatter may prove more useful. A super congested deep queen base might just fall to a decently planned pent now. If this queen is weak enough a single heal will do wonders.
Potentially a solution for one hero raiders.
TripItUp
Footballguy
In Honda we've had some discussion and disagreement with regards to what the best start times are. Here are my arguments why an afternoon or evening start(PST) time is better.
There are a three assumptions a clan can make what would help them agree on the best start time which include the following:
1) You use the following strategy: for first attack everybody calls a TH to attack, for the second attack discussion is required and is often decided near the end of the war when more intel is available regarding strategy
2) Top bases are given priority in terms of time preference because their attacks are relatively more important and require more discussion/strategy in general.
3) The majority of players have trouble with attacks in the morning, particularly on workdays(not all, just the majority)
Does everybody in Honda agree with those three assumptions as a starting point for the discussion?
There are a three assumptions a clan can make what would help them agree on the best start time which include the following:
1) You use the following strategy: for first attack everybody calls a TH to attack, for the second attack discussion is required and is often decided near the end of the war when more intel is available regarding strategy
2) Top bases are given priority in terms of time preference because their attacks are relatively more important and require more discussion/strategy in general.
3) The majority of players have trouble with attacks in the morning, particularly on workdays(not all, just the majority)
Does everybody in Honda agree with those three assumptions as a starting point for the discussion?
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culdeus
Footballguy
Our system evolved to the point where I can't imagine it any other way
4pm CST start Saturday
This gives people time to roll 2 attacks Sunday night if they want to or one sunday and one monday at some point if they have the time. For the most part people are down one hero this war.
5pmCST start Monday (ish)
Now you pretty much are going to split a night/day attack. Some will have heroes waking up late so they wait.
6pmCST start Wednesday (ish)
Usually you see people put heroes to sleep thurs night or after waking on Friday. Most people have both heroes for this war.
These provide the best of both worlds for start/finish times around work schedules and hero upgrade schedules imo. We count on about 2 hours of matchmaking time a week and the occasional update pushing out so we reset each Saturday to get back on the clock.
It could be pushed a little later, but then you risk the super late Wed. start with any update activity or long MM times.
4pm CST start Saturday
This gives people time to roll 2 attacks Sunday night if they want to or one sunday and one monday at some point if they have the time. For the most part people are down one hero this war.
5pmCST start Monday (ish)
Now you pretty much are going to split a night/day attack. Some will have heroes waking up late so they wait.
6pmCST start Wednesday (ish)
Usually you see people put heroes to sleep thurs night or after waking on Friday. Most people have both heroes for this war.
These provide the best of both worlds for start/finish times around work schedules and hero upgrade schedules imo. We count on about 2 hours of matchmaking time a week and the occasional update pushing out so we reset each Saturday to get back on the clock.
It could be pushed a little later, but then you risk the super late Wed. start with any update activity or long MM times.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Yes Culdeus, you have much better times for the average M-F 9-5 work week.
I may have to switch from Honda because the morning start times kill me as my workday mornings are impossible. But it's not about me, as a top base in our clan my attacks have elevated importance, so the morning start times put the clan in danger of losing stars they normally wouldn't be in danger of losing.
In short, ending wars in the morning is a huge issue for top bases and puts the clan at risk of losing critical stars...when said top bases need to be making critical/difficult attacks.
I may have to switch from Honda because the morning start times kill me as my workday mornings are impossible. But it's not about me, as a top base in our clan my attacks have elevated importance, so the morning start times put the clan in danger of losing stars they normally wouldn't be in danger of losing.
In short, ending wars in the morning is a huge issue for top bases and puts the clan at risk of losing critical stars...when said top bases need to be making critical/difficult attacks.
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Probably best for ya trip, you have too many issues with time and lack flexibility with your schedule.
TripItUp
Footballguy
But it's not about my schedule, it's about what is best for the clan.
I would imagine morning end times are bad for most people.
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I completely agree which is why no matter what time war starts, I make it work. However, if your schedule doesn't provide you the latitude to make it work, you have to do what's best for you, which then becomes, also best for the clan. I'd hate to see you go cause you've done a great job.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Again, this isn't about me.
I would venture to guess that changing the start time is in the entire clan's best interest. Not me leaving the clan.
Like I've already stated, I'm fine with whenever we start. Flexibility is more important than changing the start times, but if your schedule isn't flexible, then you might not have an option.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Okay, so I guess I may be looking for a new clan.
Here are some things I'm looking for in a clan:
1) doesn't start/end wars in the morning(PST)
2) people are nice to each other, but take wars seriously
thoughts on which of the other FBG clans would be best?
I'm a maxed TH9, started level 10 walls about a month ago. Okay attacker, and usually get two stars on any base that doesn't have infernos.
Here are some things I'm looking for in a clan:
1) doesn't start/end wars in the morning(PST)
2) people are nice to each other, but take wars seriously
thoughts on which of the other FBG clans would be best?
I'm a maxed TH9, started level 10 walls about a month ago. Okay attacker, and usually get two stars on any base that doesn't have infernos.
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Honestly, sounds exactly like Honda, with the exception of a few of the earlier wars. I don't do the war searches for Honda but maybe you can talk to the guys that do in hopes of being more consistent. I haven't heard do other members of the clan have any issues with the start times?
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=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Quattro. Earliest start time is about 8pm est. We're very loving (unless you're a Bucky alias).
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
Quattro for what you described Trip
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Honda does not have serious wars. I'm not complaining - I'm fine with non-serious. Way too many children and too many lower members not attacking to be considered serious.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
TripItUp
Footballguy
Anything in the evening or late afternoon. Sounds like Quattro and FBG1 start later...it's just Honda that starts early.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Clashcaller vs DictatorI don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
TripItUp
Footballguy
Quattro uses clashcaller?Clashcaller vs DictatorI don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
For 1st attacks, yes.Quattro uses clashcaller?Clashcaller vs DictatorI don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
TripItUp
Footballguy
awesomeFor 1st attacks, yes.Quattro uses clashcaller?Clashcaller vs DictatorI don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
FBGs generally either uses clash caller or some +X system.awesomeFor 1st attacks, yes.Quattro uses clashcaller?Clashcaller vs DictatorI don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
I hear ya, however, I don't entirely agree. We want to win and you can tell. People have been suspended for not follow proper rules during wars and to me that's fine but a little more than laid back. Most is our clan take it seriously, I know I do.
culdeus
Footballguy
Fbg war recap with adria: https://youtu.be/fS9Gk6PErF8
Audio in this, the MVP of the video is the attack on yoga.
Audio in this, the MVP of the video is the attack on yoga.
beer 30
Footballguy
I do too...you just can't tell by my performance
This bidding war for Trip is entertaining. You need to hold out for hookers & blow man, drive the price up!!!LMAO! Let the man go where he wants to be. If he wants to stay with us at Honda, freaking terrific! If not, I wish him the best kicking #### elsewhere.I do too...you just can't tell by my performance
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
That's really no fair. I'm quite certain there are plenty of people in FBGs who don't like culdeus.I don't really understand the difference between fbgs and quattro. Seems like the original clan, plus a clan we made when there were too many people that has become the same except with people who don't like culdeus
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Funny because as some of you know, I' live in Australia, and wars normally end around 11am/12pm for me. It used to be tricky working in a late attack at work (work in a corporate bank office at a desk and whatnot), but a couple of months ago, my team was laid off. Friday was my last day. I have a week off of being at home wearing no pants, and then I start at a new job on Monday at another corporate bank office literally across the street.
The point to this nice story is that I'm going to have to be on my best behavior for awhile at work, which means no blatantly playing a game on my phone at my desk. I either have to sit out, try a different clan depending on the start times, or attack twice in the first 12 hours of a war, which is not really ideal for someone who is usually ranked in the top 4.
I have six more days of being at home with no pants before I have to think about that though.
The point to this nice story is that I'm going to have to be on my best behavior for awhile at work, which means no blatantly playing a game on my phone at my desk. I either have to sit out, try a different clan depending on the start times, or attack twice in the first 12 hours of a war, which is not really ideal for someone who is usually ranked in the top 4.
I have six more days of being at home with no pants before I have to think about that though.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I've read this three times but I'm not sure I understand.
Do you mean that if you start a spell factor upgrade that would give you New Spell A, you can immediately upgrade New Spell A in the lab? That's pretty cool, didn't know that.
I haven't read the update stuff in detail - I assume the DE spells are coming from a different spell factory. Does it cost DE or the pink stuff to make the new factory?
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Totally unrelated, but I almost attacked #14 (a TH8) with the wrong phone. Would've spent a maxed TH10 lavaloon on it. Oops.
beer 30
Footballguy
Is there any way to extend the no pants vacation? I think this is key to your long term happiness and ultimately your ability to war effectively. Pants have also been a great detractor.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
