Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
TH10 should be hitting TH10 till they are all 2* then dropping down for 3*.
I thought we what just did was pretty good, we could have pushed to 90 if they weren't killing us. But we just happened to face one of the top 3 clans we have seen in months and therefore, for some odd reason we treat it as the norm instead of an outlier and overreact.Solution?bahahaha typical overreaction. Those 0 star th10s weren't supposed to be 0. We just had a bunch of fails. Also, if you take the crew that is putting up the 3s on the max th9s and have them attack th10s, then our 3 star attacks will plummet to the single digits. Its a zero-sum game right now with the mix we have. #math
I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. The way it is now, we have a crew who can easily clean the max th9s with 3s. And we have a crew who is firing at th10s in hope of 2, and worst case 1......so thereforeAnd fails are going to happen. Having more TH10 attacks to clean up those fails helps #math /reading.Like I said, the th0 that had 0 stars weren't supposed to be 0, we had a bunch of fails on them. #Reading3* TH9 + 0* TH10 = 3*
2* TH9 + 2* TH10 = 4*
You probably are right with mine being 3* as worst case. But that would also mean your worst case would be 2*. However you slice it, its behind 1 star.Your worst case should be 3*, like we saw in this war (which I doubt we had a chance at anyway but arguing is fun).
Guys dropping down are adding 1* as I don't think there is any issue with all the TH9s getting 2*. They could be playing for 2* on open TH10s.
All im saying is get the TH10s done first before dropping down
I was one of the incompetent TH9s this war. It happens and will happen pretty frequently down a hero.
Arguing is fun indeed. Show me how we two star all the th10 and have th10 attacks left with our history.Your worst case should be 3*, like we saw in this war (which I doubt we had a chance at anyway but arguing is fun).
Guys dropping down are adding 1* as I don't think there is any issue with all the TH9s getting 2*. They could be playing for 2* on open TH10s.
All im saying is get the TH10s done first before dropping down
I was one of the incompetent TH9s this war. It happens and will happen pretty frequently down a hero.
The major issue is we aren't beating any competent clan anymore unless we start 2 staring all of the th10s. We have the firepower for it. VA got 2 on a full max base with no king. It is possible, just have to execute. There simply aren't enough TH9s anymore to make up the differenceArguing is fun indeed. Show me how we two star all the th10 and have th10 attacks left with our history.Your worst case should be 3*, like we saw in this war (which I doubt we had a chance at anyway but arguing is fun).
Guys dropping down are adding 1* as I don't think there is any issue with all the TH9s getting 2*. They could be playing for 2* on open TH10s.
All im saying is get the TH10s done first before dropping down
I was one of the incompetent TH9s this war. It happens and will happen pretty frequently down a hero.
Then you take 10 th9 attacks to 2* the max th9. Probably be a few fails but just ignore that. Then another 7 or so to 2* the bottom th9.
We're looking at 20 attacks from th9 to go get 3 stars. How many we going to get? 5?
I'm serious I'd be down to try it though if others want to.
I dunno how many we'd 3* at TH9 but I'm pretty darn sure we'd get them all 2* which goes back to my point of a TH10 adding 1* when dropping down. This war doesn't look like many 3* as damn near all of them are near Max and have good bases.Arguing is fun indeed. Show me how we two star all the th10 and have th10 attacks left with our history.Then you take 10 th9 attacks to 2* the max th9. Probably be a few fails but just ignore that. Then another 7 or so to 2* the bottom th9.Your worst case should be 3*, like we saw in this war (which I doubt we had a chance at anyway but arguing is fun).
Guys dropping down are adding 1* as I don't think there is any issue with all the TH9s getting 2*. They could be playing for 2* on open TH10s.
All im saying is get the TH10s done first before dropping down
I was one of the incompetent TH9s this war. It happens and will happen pretty frequently down a hero.
We're looking at 20 attacks from th9 to go get 3 stars. How many we going to get? 5?
I'm serious I'd be down to try it though if others want to.
Gave doc free reign last war. Had both heroes up and where did he decide to hit second? Base 15. That's no shot at doc, that's a shot at the people that think the th10 are all easy 2s. They aren't.The major issue is we aren't beating any competent clan anymore unless we start 2 staring all of the th10s. We have the firepower for it. VA got 2 on a full max base with no king. It is possible, just have to execute. There simply aren't enough TH9s anymore to make up the differenceArguing is fun indeed. Show me how we two star all the th10 and have th10 attacks left with our history.Then you take 10 th9 attacks to 2* the max th9. Probably be a few fails but just ignore that. Then another 7 or so to 2* the bottom th9.Your worst case should be 3*, like we saw in this war (which I doubt we had a chance at anyway but arguing is fun).
Guys dropping down are adding 1* as I don't think there is any issue with all the TH9s getting 2*. They could be playing for 2* on open TH10s.
All im saying is get the TH10s done first before dropping down
I was one of the incompetent TH9s this war. It happens and will happen pretty frequently down a hero.
We're looking at 20 attacks from th9 to go get 3 stars. How many we going to get? 5?
I'm serious I'd be down to try it though if others want to.
Best way I can think is stop farming with air and start farming like doc. Only way to get better is to keep running the same attack over and over.
I get that.Hope I'm not implying that it is easy to 2* a 10. I'm trying to say we need more attempts at them because it is very difficult.
Forums were made for arguing dammit.I get that.We've been taking roughly 10 th10 attacks and putting them on th9 for the last what? Month, two? Then we end up with about 8 or so th10 bases that aren't two starred.Hope I'm not implying that it is easy to 2* a 10. I'm trying to say we need more attempts at them because it is very difficult.
So those 10 attacks that hit th9 are now hitting th10 and somehow going to go 8/10?
OK say that crew is better at getting two and we have zub left to 3 star a th9. Odds?
Obviously no point in really arguing until we see it in action so up to culdeus.
Up to me how? Even reddit troopers use bully attacks.I get that.We've been taking roughly 10 th10 attacks and putting them on th9 for the last what? Month, two? Then we end up with about 8 or so th10 bases that aren't two starred.Hope I'm not implying that it is easy to 2* a 10. I'm trying to say we need more attempts at them because it is very difficult.
So those 10 attacks that hit th9 are now hitting th10 and somehow going to go 8/10?
OK say that crew is better at getting two and we have zub left to 3 star a th9. Odds?
Obviously no point in really arguing until we see it in action so up to culdeus.
That was mainly because I was going for 3. My BK just wasn't up to the task.As far as 2 starring TH10 (mainly of the Max variety), it's not necessarily easy, but it's also not terribly hard.Gave doc free reign last war. Had both heroes up and where did he decide to hit second? Base 15. That's no shot at doc, that's a shot at the people that think the th10 are all easy 2s. They aren't.The major issue is we aren't beating any competent clan anymore unless we start 2 staring all of the th10s. We have the firepower for it. VA got 2 on a full max base with no king. It is possible, just have to execute. There simply aren't enough TH9s anymore to make up the differenceArguing is fun indeed. Show me how we two star all the th10 and have th10 attacks left with our history.Then you take 10 th9 attacks to 2* the max th9. Probably be a few fails but just ignore that. Then another 7 or so to 2* the bottom th9.Your worst case should be 3*, like we saw in this war (which I doubt we had a chance at anyway but arguing is fun).
Guys dropping down are adding 1* as I don't think there is any issue with all the TH9s getting 2*. They could be playing for 2* on open TH10s.
All im saying is get the TH10s done first before dropping down
I was one of the incompetent TH9s this war. It happens and will happen pretty frequently down a hero.
We're looking at 20 attacks from th9 to go get 3 stars. How many we going to get? 5?
I'm serious I'd be down to try it though if others want to.
Best way I can think is stop farming with air and start farming like doc. Only way to get better is to keep running the same attack over and over.
That's for making my point. Even modders have to use bully attacks. Some TH9 are too strong even for modded clans.Reddit troopers also use Xmod, so lets throw that sample out
How did these attempts work for this war?Sounds like you have these options:Not sure there's any need to explain anything. Of course it's better if a th9 can get two on a th10.It's not that simple.We're over thinking this. 2* your equal then either go for 3* after that or 2* someones fail if you don't think you can get 3* somewhere else. Pretty simple
It's hard to 3-star your equal, but it's relatively easy to 2-star above your level. My max TH9 regularly would 2-star TH10s - even got a max one once. If you plan for the 2-star, it can be easy. If your TH9s have Level 15 (or so) heroes, Level 4 golems - use five of them, and Level 3 PEKKA, they should be able to get any low- to mid-level TH10 for a 2-star.
Having your TH9s go high allows your TH10s to go lower - twice - and get sure 3-star results.
If any of the th9 in FBGS had that ability it would be great and an asset. So far none have really tried or shown it.
1. Try the strategy.
Then you'll know. I didn't know I could 2-star TH10s until I started doing it.
Yes! A million times, yes!All the time wasted on other things could be used to understand FBGS, and what role each person has, then maybe we can push our average up.
Poorly.How did these attempts work for this war?Sounds like you have these options:Not sure there's any need to explain anything. Of course it's better if a th9 can get two on a th10.If any of the th9 in FBGS had that ability it would be great and an asset. So far none have really tried or shown it.It's not that simple.We're over thinking this. 2* your equal then either go for 3* after that or 2* someones fail if you don't think you can get 3* somewhere else. Pretty simple
It's hard to 3-star your equal, but it's relatively easy to 2-star above your level. My max TH9 regularly would 2-star TH10s - even got a max one once. If you plan for the 2-star, it can be easy. If your TH9s have Level 15 (or so) heroes, Level 4 golems - use five of them, and Level 3 PEKKA, they should be able to get any low- to mid-level TH10 for a 2-star.
Having your TH9s go high allows your TH10s to go lower - twice - and get sure 3-star results.
1. Try the strategy.
Then you'll know. I didn't know I could 2-star TH10s until I started doing it.
Our TH10s need to put 2 on our counterparts. That's just tough to do generally, very tough against an advanced clan when a lot of us are trying to push heroes too.The simple issue is we just can't get enough th9 3 stars to cover 0 stars in th10s. Our mix just can't cover those anymore. Granting two more of those as throwaways we would have won 19-17 on 3 stars and still needed another 11 stars to win in TH10. #math
Maybe that is why the game has had issues loading for me this morningoh and SC released a hotfix for the troop switching
People were having trouble switching between troops since the update and they released a patch which is meant to address this. They did it without a maintenance break so we don't lose replays or anything and you wouldn't otherwise know unless you follow SC twitter and other people on twitter.wdcrob said:What does this mean?oh and SC released a hotfix for the troop switching
orly, on what platform? I didn't see an update on android, but maybe I set it to autoload.It was an optional update though so I had to go store to update manually fyi.
Out of curiosity, have you monitored how many sleeping heroes there are on each side? I imagine that could routinely be a heavy disadvantage for FBG.I am strongly considering anchoring for the next few wars at 50/50 until we can play in this space. Clearly we are out of our league in the 40/40 range.
Not as many as usual people are finishing off dark spells with DE rather than heroes for the moment. We tend to miss 4-5 TH10 heroes and 4-5 TH9 heroes as a general rule, this time probably in that range. Even with all our heroes up this war is beyond hopeless.Out of curiosity, have you monitored how many sleeping heroes there are on each side? I imagine that could routinely be a heavy disadvantage for FBG.I am strongly considering anchoring for the next few wars at 50/50 until we can play in this space. Clearly we are out of our league in the 40/40 range.
(Not suggesting that anyone stop upgrading their heroes; just the opposite actually, the best thing about maxing hero is that you always have it.)
Going to 50 is just a bandaid. Soon we will be at a point where we can't hide at 50 either. Not sure when we hit that point but it will come.Data analysis for the 3 losses basically shows we don't really matchup with these clans evenly out to our 8th person. In this current war we probably never match up evenly on rush ratio in developed bases.
I am strongly considering anchoring for the next few wars at 50/50 until we can play in this space. Clearly we are out of our league in the 40/40 range.
Keep building infernos and we will get there.Going to 50 is just a bandaid. Soon we will be at a point where we can't hide at 50 either. Not sure when we hit that point but it will come.Data analysis for the 3 losses basically shows we don't really matchup with these clans evenly out to our 8th person. In this current war we probably never match up evenly on rush ratio in developed bases.
I am strongly considering anchoring for the next few wars at 50/50 until we can play in this space. Clearly we are out of our league in the 40/40 range.