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Clinton Portis (1 Viewer)

I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
 
I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Portis will be lucky to score 5-6 TDs this year. Duckett could get 7-8 Gibbs love the bigs backs pounding the ball at the goal line.
 
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Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.

 
I never downgraded Portis on fears that he'd miss a game. I downgraded him on fears that he wouldn't get as many carries, and might not do as well with the ones he got. Portis isn't a big guy, and he has almost 700 carries the last two years. Seeing him get nicked up before the season starts - even on a defensive play - definitely drops his value.

I know that all of the top backs have some kind of blemish. And it's good that this isn't a leg injury. But it's still worth dropping him down a few picks even if he's back for game one.

 
I don't think very many people backed off of Portis because they thought he would miss time.

Personally, I completely expected him to play Week 1 once reports came out the day after his injury, but I still downgraded him a few slots in the RB pecking order. I expect Portis to see a slightly lighter workload than last season and be replaced at the goal line by Duckett. Plus, unless he becomes the first RB in history to not get hit in the upper body all season, I think it's only reasonable to project him as a higher injury risk than the other top RBs.

Before anyone chimes in with "everyone is an injury risk" let me assure you that I know that. However, Portis is just as likely as every other RB to get one of those "everyone" injuries, while he also is coming into the sesaon with at least some level of damage or looseness in his shoulder.

 
I don't think very many people backed off of Portis because they thought he would miss time.Personally, I completely expected him to play Week 1 once reports came out the day after his injury, but I still downgraded him a few slots in the RB pecking order. I expect Portis to see a slightly lighter workload than last season and be replaced at the goal line by Duckett. Plus, unless he becomes the first RB in history to not get hit in the upper body all season, I think it's only reasonable to project him as a higher injury risk than the other top RBs.Before anyone chimes in with "everyone is an injury risk" let me assure you that I know that. However, Portis is just as likely as every other RB to get one of those "everyone" injuries, while he also is coming into the sesaon with at least some level of damage or looseness in his shoulder.
Great minds.
 
I don't think very many people backed off of Portis because they thought he would miss time.Personally, I completely expected him to play Week 1 once reports came out the day after his injury, but I still downgraded him a few slots in the RB pecking order. I expect Portis to see a slightly lighter workload than last season and be replaced at the goal line by Duckett. Plus, unless he becomes the first RB in history to not get hit in the upper body all season, I think it's only reasonable to project him as a higher injury risk than the other top RBs.Before anyone chimes in with "everyone is an injury risk" let me assure you that I know that. However, Portis is just as likely as every other RB to get one of those "everyone" injuries, while he also is coming into the sesaon with at least some level of damage or looseness in his shoulder.
Great minds.
Apparently yours is just a little bit faster (although I did type a tad more). :hifive:
 
Before anyone chimes in with "everyone is an injury risk" let me assure you that I know that. However, Portis is just as likely as every other RB to get one of those "everyone" injuries, while he also is coming into the sesaon with at least some level of damage or looseness in his shoulder.
I consider that shoulder a shoe that may drop at any time.
 
Before anyone chimes in with "everyone is an injury risk" let me assure you that I know that. However, Portis is just as likely as every other RB to get one of those "everyone" injuries, while he also is coming into the sesaon with at least some level of damage or looseness in his shoulder.
I consider that shoulder a shoe that may drop at any time.
And of course it could hold up all year. No one knows for sure. However, there is enough risk and randomness without intentionally adding more if a reasonable alternative presents.
 
I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Portis will be lucky to score 5-6 TDs this year. Duckett could get 7-8 Gibbs love the bigs backs pounding the ball at the goal line.
Washington's Offense is looking so poor I doubt they make it to the goaline very often
 
Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
 
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I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Portis will be lucky to score 5-6 TDs this year. Duckett could get 7-8 Gibbs love the bigs backs pounding the ball at the goal line.
Washington's Offense is looking so poor I doubt they make it to the goaline very often
Didnt Portis do most of his Scroing since being in Wash. from outside the 10-15 anyway?
 
Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
Guess that shows what I know... :bag:
 
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Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
And IIRC, he didn't have a very high success rate on those short TD's, lending further credence to the thought that he won't get the chances this year.
 
I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Portis will be lucky to score 5-6 TDs this year. Duckett could get 7-8 Gibbs love the bigs backs pounding the ball at the goal line.
Washington's Offense is looking so poor I doubt they make it to the goaline very often
I agree that they look poor but close inspection seems to indicate that they're running very limited schemes designed to test players in certain situations, e.g. intentionally not keeping in extra blockers to see how the linemen handle it, etc. They're also not motioning or audibling. They're fanatical about not giving away anything they're going to do in games - Saunders estimates that they're only running 2% of their offense. This is a veteran coaching staff if there ever was one. If they don't know how to get their guys prepared, nobody does.
 
I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Portis will be lucky to score 5-6 TDs this year. Duckett could get 7-8 Gibbs love the bigs backs pounding the ball at the goal line.
Washington's Offense is looking so poor I doubt they make it to the goaline very often
Yeah 4 preseason games is a really good indicator. Saunders forgot how to scheme in one off-season. :rolleyes:
 
I think they're crazy if they run Portis in short yardage situations this season. On those runs you have to lower your shoulder and try to barrel over people. Not exactly what you want to be doing if your shoulder is weakened and pops out of it's socket.

It's precicely why they brought in a superior short yardage back like Duckett. He's definetly getting many of the rushing TD's that Portis got inside the 5 last year.

 
i think TJ definately cuts into Portis' production this year near the goalline... but his yardage will be fine... and if TJ gets some 1st downs on 3rd and short, Portis' production w/ the touches he gets could go up.... if Brunell can turn it up like he did last year to keep defenses honest, Clinton could have a very similar year to Tiki last year.

but i'm licking my chops regardless because i got Portis at 2.2 and Rudi in the first... so i could potentially have the best RB tandum in my league if nothing too out of the ordinary occurs.

 
I am curious about something guys.

Yesterday someone posted some info from Sports Illustrated in regard to Travis Henry being the week 1 starter for the Titans. It seemed a large part of that thread was used to determine the validity of information from Sports Illustrated. Lot of folks knocking them as a true news source, asking for a link to a better, or more trust-worthy news source for fantasy information.

How come win this thread there is not the same kind of reaction?

 
I am curious about something guys.Yesterday someone posted some info from Sports Illustrated in regard to Travis Henry being the week 1 starter for the Titans. It seemed a large part of that thread was used to determine the validity of information from Sports Illustrated. Lot of folks knocking them as a true news source, asking for a link to a better, or more trust-worthy news source for fantasy information.How come win this thread there is not the same kind of reaction?
because this is a quote from the Coach... not a report that the team has not officially confirmededit: also... this isn't fantasy information per se..... just general football info
 
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This is funny seeing all these people guaranteeing that Duckett will get all the short yardage carries.

 
Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
Awesome post. Thanks.
 
So do y'all think the sites current projections for Portis are about right? I'm assuming they are taking his injury into consideration.

I have him paired with SA and if he can give me Tiki type numbers (yards, not a lot of TD's) then I am satisfied.

 
So do y'all think the sites current projections for Portis are about right? I'm assuming they are taking his injury into consideration.I have him paired with SA and if he can give me Tiki type numbers (yards, not a lot of TD's) then I am satisfied.
Paired with SA I'd hazard a guess that you'll end up with the top pair of RB's in your league assuming at least a passable level of skill in your league from top to bottom. My projections for Portis:275/1250/925/200/1
 
I agree that they look poor but close inspection seems to indicate that they're running very limited schemes designed to test players in certain situations, e.g. intentionally not keeping in extra blockers to see how the linemen handle it, etc. They're also not motioning or audibling. They're fanatical about not giving away anything they're going to do in games - Saunders estimates that they're only running 2% of their offense.

This is a veteran coaching staff if there ever was one. If they don't know how to get their guys prepared, nobody does.
If there's anything I learned about the Washington offense playing Tecmo Super Bowl, it's that Gibbs likes to motion a lot. :)
 
i think TJ definately cuts into Portis' production this year near the goalline... but his yardage will be fine... and if TJ gets some 1st downs on 3rd and short, Portis' production w/ the touches he gets could go up.... if Brunell can turn it up like he did last year to keep defenses honest, Clinton could have a very similar year to Tiki last year.but i'm licking my chops regardless because i got Portis at 2.2 and Rudi in the first... so i could potentially have the best RB tandum in my league if nothing too out of the ordinary occurs.
In PPR leagues, however, Tiki is miles ahead of Portis (who has hands like feet). Portis' yardage potential appears to be his only real FF asset now and there are a lot of leagues that are TD heavy or PPR. In those cases he is worth about RB 10. I think he is still overvalued by many people with both the threat of Duckett and a weaker shoulder.
 
Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
:goodposting: However I don't think Portis's numbers are going to go down as much as people think. Mike Sellers is going to be the most affected by Duckett's signing. He quietly had 8 TD's last year but no one mentions him in any Portis thread I have read. :shock: Almost all short passes along the goal line. Portis will still get his share of goal line touches although I do see his carries per game dropping slightly. Sellers TD's from 1-2 yrds: 4Sellers TD's from 3-5 yrds: 2Sellers also had a 7 YRD TD and a 19 yrd TD.
 
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I love Portis as a player, and until he dinged his shoulder, I loved him as the #4 overall. Double digits TDs will be tough given the shoulder, TJ's vulture potential, and some tough run D opponents. That's why I passed on him as my #1RB at the 9 slot. I might regret it, but I didn't want that much risk in my #1 selection.

Just my two cents.

 
I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Portis will be lucky to score 5-6 TDs this year. Duckett could get 7-8 Gibbs love the bigs backs pounding the ball at the goal line.
Maybe if it's 3rd and goal at the 1. Maybe!
 
Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
:goodposting: However I don't think Portis's numbers are going to go down as much as people think. Mike Sellers is going to be the most affected by Duckett's signing. He quietly had 8 TD's last year but no one mentions him in any Portis thread I have read. :shock: Almost all short passes along the goal line.
Seller has several carries in the preseason and has actually looked pretty good as a banger.
 
Portis's injury justifies knocking him down to a late first round pick. If you got him in the second round, consider yourself very lucky -- you are set up for a good season.

 
I got him in the 2nd round this past weekend! :thumbup: (Paired him up with Ronnie Brown)
You should thank the over reactive FootballGuys Gods for that. A lot of teams became VERY strong in the last 10 days on that news; and the resulting Fantasy Panic....
Heads up guys. Big news out of Washington as it looks like Clinton Portis will indeed start week 1 vs the Vikins.. If you've been listening to us, you'll have to cutt Betts and Duckett from your roster and pick up two other scrubs. Thanks to InsidetheStatguy Melvin Scupper for talking most guys off the ledge.Bottom line: Only Shaun Alexander has more 100 yd games in the last 3 seasons. He's always been good.
 
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I think they're crazy if they run Portis in short yardage situations this season. On those runs you have to lower your shoulder and try to barrel over people. Not exactly what you want to be doing if your shoulder is weakened and pops out of it's socket.
:thumbdown: Except that that's not the way the shoulder is built. He injured it by extending it the completely opposite direction than this hit you're describing. Getting hit from the front is completely different, and doesn't stress the shoulder that way.
 
Portis will have double digit TD's, I'm happy I was able to get him in the 2nd round of my draft.
This seems to be an overly confident statement considering he scored 11 last year with no TJ Duckett on the roster and no bum shoulder.
Stats from 2004-2005 when Portis (since he was traded to D.C.):Rush TDs from 1-2 yards: Portis 7Rush TDs from 3-5 yards: Portis 2Rush TDs from 6-9 yards: Portis 2Other TDs (rec, long rush): Portis 935% of Portis TDs the past two seasons have come from the 1 or 2 yard line. 45% from the 5 or closer. That's a significant loss if Duckett indeed gets the call near the goal line.
:goodposting: However I don't think Portis's numbers are going to go down as much as people think. Mike Sellers is going to be the most affected by Duckett's signing. He quietly had 8 TD's last year but no one mentions him in any Portis thread I have read. :shock: Almost all short passes along the goal line. Portis will still get his share of goal line touches although I do see his carries per game dropping slightly. Sellers TD's from 1-2 yrds: 4Sellers TD's from 3-5 yrds: 2Sellers also had a 7 YRD TD and a 19 yrd TD.
Nice work, I didn't know this.So the "pool of available GL TD's" is larger than I first thought.
 

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