Steve Tasker
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Tom Brandstater getting in the game now.
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Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Aaron Maybin makes his first good play with 1:40 left in the 4th. Great 1st round pick.
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
Spiller's game log:
2-4-IND35 (12:45) C.Spiller left end pushed ob at IND 31 for 4 yards (J.Lacey).
1-10-IND31 (12:20) C.Spiller up the middle for 31 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Cut back to left side after crossing line of scrimmage. Key block: L.Evans
1-10-BUF9 (9:12) C.Spiller right tackle to BUF 9 for no gain (G.Brackett).
1-10-BUF21 (4:43) C.Spiller up the middle to BUF 15 for -6 yards (D.Townsend, R.Mathis).
3-14-BUF17 (3:26) (Shotgun) C.Spiller left tackle to BUF 18 for 1 yard (B.Sanders, J.Lacey).
1-10-BUF27 (1:28) C.Spiller up the middle to BUF 30 for 3 yards (R.Mathis).
1-10-BUF16 (11:49) C.Spiller up the middle to BUF 21 for 5 yards (P.Wheeler).
2-5-BUF21 (11:15) C.Spiller left guard to BUF 33 for 12 yards (B.Sanders, K.Conner).
1-5-BUF38 (10:18) C.Spiller left end to BUF 44 for 6 yards (R.Humber, J.Lacey).
1-10-IND45 (8:25) C.Spiller up the middle to IND 47 for -2 yards (G.Brackett).
3-12-IND47 (7:42) T.Edwards pass short right to C.Spiller to IND 45 for 2 yards (K.Hayden) [A.Bethea]. Dump pass off pressure, caught at IND 47.
2-4-IND35 (12:45) C.Spiller left end pushed ob at IND 31 for 4 yards (J.Lacey).
1-10-IND31 (12:20) C.Spiller up the middle for 31 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Cut back to left side after crossing line of scrimmage. Key block: L.Evans
1-10-BUF9 (9:12) C.Spiller right tackle to BUF 9 for no gain (G.Brackett).
1-10-BUF21 (4:43) C.Spiller up the middle to BUF 15 for -6 yards (D.Townsend, R.Mathis).
3-14-BUF17 (3:26) (Shotgun) C.Spiller left tackle to BUF 18 for 1 yard (B.Sanders, J.Lacey).
1-10-BUF27 (1:28) C.Spiller up the middle to BUF 30 for 3 yards (R.Mathis).
1-10-BUF16 (11:49) C.Spiller up the middle to BUF 21 for 5 yards (P.Wheeler).
2-5-BUF21 (11:15) C.Spiller left guard to BUF 33 for 12 yards (B.Sanders, K.Conner).
1-5-BUF38 (10:18) C.Spiller left end to BUF 44 for 6 yards (R.Humber, J.Lacey).
1-10-IND45 (8:25) C.Spiller up the middle to IND 47 for -2 yards (G.Brackett).
3-12-IND47 (7:42) T.Edwards pass short right to C.Spiller to IND 45 for 2 yards (K.Hayden) [A.Bethea]. Dump pass off pressure, caught at IND 47.
HellToupee
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10-54 w/1TD
bump onto front page for Friday Morning discussion. MW
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I don't think the game log tells the full story unless you really dig into it. Quite a few of the guys who made tackles on Spiller were second and third level guys. Bathea was in on about half of them. That tells you that Indy was bringing a safety up into the box a lot. It also means that Spiller was tackled after making it through the first line of blockers (except for the 6 yard loss which was obviously a run blitz that worked). There were 2 or 3 of those plays on there where Spiller only got 3-6 yard gains but was one missed tackle from another long TD. Bathea made several GREAT shoe string tackles. On one, if the FB had just finished the block, Spiller was gone for about a 50 yard TD. Edited: Actually, I think it was Sanders on one and Wheeler maybe on the other one.Lott said:
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Clifford
Footballguy
Yeah, and like every other draft pick that did or did not pan out. What on earth does this add to this thread?So, Spiller v Bell? Any reason to think Spiller does not remain starting back all season? Other than the fact that Darren McFadden has not lived up to expectations?Malabar said:
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Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Spiller hasn't been named the starter yet. This will still likely be a RBBC when Jackson & Lynch get healthy so I would expect whoever has the hot hand to get the bulk of the work on any given Sunday. That said, Spiller could change some minds if he has two more games like he just had and he does a good job picking up the offense and proves he can handle the pass protection duties. Bell's role will be less defined. Possibly some special teams and maybe some back up work in the event of more injuries.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
True, but we should also keep in mind that his - bolded above - little spurt of 3 carries for 23 yards that someone commented on earlier (can't remember who) was against the mostly 2nd-string defense.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Impressions from the bills qb battle? I'm in a very deep league with 53 man rosters and own brohm.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
IMO, and take it FWIW, neither Edwards nor Brohm really distinguished themselves. Both made some nice plays and some poor ones - holding onto the ball too long, a few inaccurate throws from Brohm etc. Given that Edwards is the incumbent starter and actually led the 1st team offense to 2 scores against the 1st-team Colts defense, I'd think he gets the leg up in terms of performance in this game. Brohm needed to really shine last night (although he has 1 or 2 more preseason games to do it) to make a claim for the starting job. From my perspective, he didn't do that. He looked simply ok, for lack of a better term.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Thanks.
FrostBite
Footballguy
Brohm looked good IMO. He was making good decisions with the ball and looked accurate, despite the news he's been struggling with his accuracy. Sounds like most people think Edwards is the guy... but besides that one play where Evans was WIDE open for a TD, I don't think Edwards really outplayed Brohm. Really wish they would have let Brohm start the game, but I think it shows that Edwards is fully entrenched as the starter right now.
There has to be better options than Brohm, even with 53 man rosters, right? No starting QB's left? If that's the case then he might be worth a stash since if and when Edwards struggles during the season, I'm sure they'll throw Brohm out there to see what he can do.
There has to be better options than Brohm, even with 53 man rosters, right? No starting QB's left? If that's the case then he might be worth a stash since if and when Edwards struggles during the season, I'm sure they'll throw Brohm out there to see what he can do.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Personally, I think this entire campaign should be renamed "Operation Jake Locker".
FrostBite
Footballguy
I wouldn't say Edwards "led" the team to those scores. Spiller "led" the team on that first drive... and the second one was blown coverage. If Brohm, or Fitzpatrick for that matter started the game they probably would have had the same outcome. Which I guess means they are all pretty average and I wouldn't want any of them as my starting QB.
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Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Thanks. No better on the wire. I'm good at qb with romo and a couple backup starters, just a depth thing, deciding to cut brohm, leftwich or cut none.
Clifford
Footballguy
My money draft is this Thursday so I'll have to make my call before any clarification. Before camps started I predicted that Spiller will win the job outright and get around 235 carries, simply because I don't have much respect for his competition. Are you a Bills fan, and if so, what are your thoughts on Jackson?
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Yes I am a Bills fan. I believe a healthy Jackson would have probably began the year as the starter with Spiller given the opportunity to expand his role as the season wore on. Now things are very much up in the air. I still believe that Jackson will be a factor. I don't think even if Spiller is named the starter that he will come close to 235 carries. I'm guessing they probably want to limit his touches to about 15 a game which means about 10-12 carries and 3-5 catches per game. If you're right about Spiller, those numbers could be his floor and his ceiling touches will be more like 20-22 per game which would put him in your range. If you have a good hunch, I would say go for it. This is a new staff with a newly drafted toy so anything is possible here.
purestrength
Footballguy
Any comparison on Addai/D.Brown for the Colts? I didn't get to see the game, but I heard they split carries with the first-team offense.
Does Brown look like an equal or superior to Addai? From what I've heard, the answer is "no." But again I didn't see last night's game.
Does Brown look like an equal or superior to Addai? From what I've heard, the answer is "no." But again I didn't see last night's game.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm not sure why there's really any talk of Edwards vs. Brohm. EVERYTHING I've heard and read so far indicates that there is no QB battle for the starting position. Edwards is the starter. Period. Levi Brown will be the #3. The battle is between Brohm and Fitzpatrick for the #2 spot. The loser of that battle gets cut. I think Brohm has the leg up. He looked just as good, if not better than Fitzpatrick and he has way more upside than Fitzpatrick.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
That's a fair assessment. However, keep in mind that Brohm (albeit with the 2nd-team offense) led the Bills to only 3 points (IIRC) in essentially 2 quarters of game action against the 2nd- and 3rd-string Colts defense. He had his moments of brilliance - that over-the-shoulder perfect play to Chad Jackson, for example - but I just don't think he played a significantly better game than Edwards. Edwards was nothing special, I agree, but Brohm needed to really, really step forward and claim the starting job, and I just don't think he did that.In the end, your statement is entirely correct. I don't want any of these guys as the Bills' starting QB....but that's not really an option at this point.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
One more interesting note: out of the 20 plays the first team offense was in for Buffalo. 15 of them were from a 3 WR set. Another 3 were from a 4 wide set. We'll see if that continues next week or not. If it does, bump all of their TEs down (not like they were draftable before, and give a slight bump to the WRs, especially Parrish.
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