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By Round:

3rd (picks 97-100) - NE, Cin, Chi, NYG

4th (picks 133-136) - SD, SD, Ten, Ind

5th (picks 169-173) - Pit, NE, SF, Dal, Ten

6th (picks 206-209) - Ten, NE, Dal, Cin

7th (picks 242-256) - Ten, Was, SF, Sea, Chi, Sea, Sea, Cin, Jac, Chi, Cin, Jac, Ariz, Det, KC

Chargers get two 4th rounders as compensation

Posted Today at 04:36 PM by caseybolts

The NFL announced compensatory picks Monday afternoon, and the Chargers were awarded two fourth round picks.

There was some thought the Chargers would get a third and a fourth, but it's two extra choices at the end of the fourth round. The picks are numbers 133 and 134.

The Chargers lost Drayton Florence and Michael Turner last spring in free agency and added no unrestricted free agents.

Only four teams (NE, Cin, Chi and NYG) received third round picks this year.

 

[cstu]

Disappointing...they should have received a 3rd for Turner.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The NFL announced the New England Patriots have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 97 overall), a fifth-round pick (No. 170 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 207 overall).

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Giants | Given one compensatory pick

Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:10 -0700

The NFL announced the New York Giants have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 100 overall).

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Bengals | Given four compensatory picks

Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:21:19 -0700

The NFL announced the Cincinnati Bengals have been given four compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 98 overall), a sixth-round pick (No. 209 overall) and two seventh-round picks (No. 249 and No. 252 overall).

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Bears | Given three compensatory picks

Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:00 -0700

The NFL announced the Chicago Bears have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 99 overall) and two seventh-round picks (No. 246 and No. 251 overall).

 

[Buffaloes]

The NFL announced the New England Patriots have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 97 overall), a fifth-round pick (No. 170 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 207 overall).

Can anyone remind me who NE lost last season? Asante Samuel and...?

 

[Boston]

The NFL announced the New England Patriots have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 97 overall), a fifth-round pick (No. 170 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 207 overall).

Can anyone remind me who NE lost last season? Asante Samuel and...?

Randall Gay and Stallworth.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I agree, Turner should have warranted a 3rd.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I agree, Turner should have warranted a 3rd.

the flaw iwththe comp system is that it's more tied to money signed than actualy performance on the field.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

1. Chiefs | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Kansas City Chiefs have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 256 overall). 2 minutes

2. Lions | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Detroit Lions have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 255 overall). 3 minutes

3. Cardinals | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Arizona Cardinals have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 254 overall). 3 minutes

4. Jaguars | Given two compensatory picks (KFFL) The NFL announced the Jacksonville Jaguars have been given two compensatory picks in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given two seventh-round picks (No. 250 and No. 253 overall). 4 minutes

5. Seahawks | Given three compensatory picks (KFFL) The NFL announced the Seattle Seahawks have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given three seventh-round picks (No. 245, No. 247 and No. 248 overall). 5 minutes

6. Redskins | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Washington Redskins have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 243 overall). 7 minutes

7. Cowboys | Given two compensatory picks (KFFL) The NFL announced the Dallas Cowboys have been given two compensatory picks in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a fifth-round pick (No. 172 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 208 overall). 8 minutes

8. 49ers | Given two compensatory picks (KFFL) The NFL announced the San Francisco 49ers have been given two compensatory picks in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a fifth-round pick (No. 171 overall) and a seventh-round pick (No. 244 overall). 9 minutes

9. Steelers | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Pittsburgh Steelers have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a fifth-round pick (No. 169 overall). 10 minutes

10. Colts | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Indianapolis Colts have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a fourth-round pick (No. 136 overall). 11 minutes

11. Titans | Given four compensatory picks (KFFL) The NFL announced the Tennessee Titans have been given four compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a fourth-round pick (No. 135 overall), a fifth-round pick (No. 173 overall), a sixth-round pick (No. 206 overall) and a seventh-round pick (No. 242 overall). 12 minutes

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

By Round:

3rd (picks 97-100) - NE, Cin, Chi, NYG

4th (picks 133-136) - SD, SD, Ten, Ind

5th (picks 169-173) - Pit, NE, SF, Dal, Ten

6th (picks 206-209) - Ten, NE, Dal, Cin

7th (picks 242-256) - Ten, Was, SF, Sea, Chi, Sea, Sea, Cin, Jac, Chi, Cin, Jac, Ariz, Det, KC

 

[Bri]

why not give Ten a 3rd?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moore

a Fifth is a load of crap.

 

[NorrisB]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moorea Fifth is a load of crap.

That is pretty bad, Im surprised the Bengals got a third for Justin Freakin Smith

 

[Sweet Love]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moore

a Fifth is a load of crap.

This whole system seems like a load of crap to me. I am not sure whether it was discussed in a recent thread, but how exactly (or inexactly) is the compensatory pick selected??

 

[AB in DC]

Looks like AdamJT13 had good predictions -- only big miss was Pittsburgh getting a 5th not a 3d (which still doesn't make sense IMHO)

 

[Godsbrother]

I know there is a formula for this but only getting a 5th for losing a Pro Bowl G that signed a contract that made him the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history seems messed up.

Makes me wonder if we'll get anything next season for losing Bryant McFadden and Nate Washington. I am thinking no...

 

[NorrisB]

Bengals got 4 picks

1 3rd

1 6th

2 7ths

 

[Bonzai]

Bengals got 4 picks1 3rd1 6th2 7ths

We made out pretty well.Gotta admit, the Stillers got hosed.

 

[ReggieHammond]

The NFL announced the New England Patriots have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 97 overall), a fifth-round pick (No. 170 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 207 overall).

Can anyone remind me who NE lost last season? Asante Samuel and...?

Randall Gay and Stallworth.

Wasn't Stallworth cut by NE? Compensation is only for players who were out of contract isn't it?

 

[Kirby]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moorea Fifth is a load of crap.

Wow... that is. I thought Faneca and Smith were the only 3rd round locks. When I saw that Cincy had 98, I just figured that Pittsburgh had 97.Now that we have the full draft order, is it time for a full 7 round mock?

 

[David Yudkin]

The NFL announced the New England Patriots have been given three compensatory picks for the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a third-round pick (No. 97 overall), a fifth-round pick (No. 170 overall) and a sixth-round pick (No. 207 overall).

Can anyone remind me who NE lost last season? Asante Samuel and...?

Randall Gay and Stallworth.

Wasn't Stallworth cut by NE? Compensation is only for players who were out of contract isn't it?

I thought this too, but Stallworth's contract was set up as a team option and if they declined his option he became a free agent. Makes you wonder why more teams don't set up contracts like this.

 

[kevinray]

Maybe the reason the Steelers didn't get more for Faneca is because he was so established and making around 6 a year before we let him go. I'm not sure what the history is but the point of the comp pick is to reward teams who lose players because another team comes in and out bids them. With Chris Hope and Randel El they were out bid massively for role players they wanted to keep and their salarys skyrocketed while Faneca's yearly cost only like increased 2 million (just going off of memory so all that could be inaccurate). I still don't agree with it but that's the only reason I can see for why such a highly paid free agent didn't bring in a higher pick.

 

[Bri]

Jake Scott signed a contract as a guard at 4.8 million per year... started all 16 games. = 4th.

I don't think this is the 4th, is it?I don't understand the plus/minus stuff. Titans added and lost a guard, it should wash out more or less.

Titans lost two DEs that signed nice sized contracts and played well for their new teams. I'd have guessed the 4th was Laboy.

 

[Bri]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moorea Fifth is a load of crap.

That is pretty bad, Im surprised the Bengals got a third for Justin Freakin Smith

If the Titans got 3 picks(like other "big losers in FA") there would have been another pick they could have given the Steelers. While I think the Titans were oh so risky to let 2 DEs walk away and actually replace them with two good ones(way easier said than done) I don't think overall they lost a ton of talent last spring/summer. A 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th, seems to me like some think the Titans got hit hardest in FA and I just don't think that was true.

 

[coolnerd]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moore

a Fifth is a load of crap.

This whole system seems like a load of crap to me. I am not sure whether it was discussed in a recent thread, but how exactly (or inexactly) is the compensatory pick selected??

The problem is no one knows the exact formula. This thread is about a guy who has is pretty close though.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...amp;hl=coolnerd

 

[Marvelous]

Looks like AdamJT13 had good predictions -- only big miss was Pittsburgh getting a 5th not a 3d (which still doesn't make sense IMHO)

From AdamJT13 at KFFL:

I got 26 correct, with almost all of them coming in the order I projected. I was off by one round on three more, all of which I said were possible. I barely missed my goal of 30 correct or within one round, but I had more picks correct and fewer off by one round than I expected, so I'm fairly pleased.

I missed two seventh-rounders, with the NFL awarding picks to Jacksonville and Cincinnati (both of which I said would happen if Aaron Glenn and Alex Stepanovich qualified, and they did qualify). Seattle didn't get one of the seventh-rounders I projected because Keary Colbert wound up qualifying (I explained his situation in my original post). Detroit didn't end up getting a net-value pick as I projected, so I'll have to re-examine the players involved there. It was a close call anyway, so it's not a big surprise.

The one surprise that I can't explain is the Steelers getting only a fifth-round pick after losing two players (Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans) and signing one (Mewelde Moore). Haggans and Moore had seventh-round values and should have canceled out each other. Faneca played 99 percent of the snaps for the Jets, made the Pro Bowl and got a huge contract ($7.8 million per season, plus a little more that doesn't count in the equation). He clearly had a third-round value, so I'm curious about why the Steelers got a fifth. Hopefully the media in Pittsburgh will look into it and get an answer.

 

[Bri]

Jake Scott signed a contract as a guard at 4.8 million per year... started all 16 games. = 4th.

I don't think this is the 4th, is it?I don't understand the plus/minus stuff. Titans added and lost a guard, it should wash out more or less.

Titans lost two DEs that signed nice sized contracts and played well for their new teams. I'd have guessed the 4th was Laboy.

The 4th went to the Colts.

yeah but the Titans got one too and...italics above

 

[Marvelous]

A quick thought: Two years ago, the Patriots signed Stallworth to a 1 year show-me deal with some options that the team did not pick up. And they get a 5th round pick for him after he did not work out.

This year, the Patriots have signed Joey Galloway among others, to a 1 year contract. If he leaves and signs with another team next year, the Patriots could get another comp pick for him.

I think the Patriots have found a way to get more draft picks through the compensatory picks process.

 

[David Yudkin]

A quick thought: Two years ago, the Patriots signed Stallworth to a 1 year show-me deal with some options that the team did not pick up. And they get a 5th round pick for him after he did not work out. This year, the Patriots have signed Joey Galloway among others, to a 1 year contract. If he leaves and signs with another team next year, the Patriots could get another comp pick for him. I think the Patriots have found a way to get more draft picks through the compensatory picks process.

The thing with Galloway is that he would need to sign a decent size contract to merit consideration for a compensatory pcik. Given that he signed for $1.1 million this year and is 37 or 38, I'm guessing it's unlikely he will be worth one down stream.

 

[Gr00vus]

Seems like this system is busted. I'd think this would encourage GMs (I'm looking at you A.J.) to trade pending free agents rather than letting them walk and take their chances with whatever the ouija board compensation formula spits out.

 

[Tau837]

Again...

Alan Faneca signed for the highest contract ever by a guard/OL at 8 million per year ... started all 16 and made the pro bowl. = 5th

Jake Scott signed a contract as a guard at 4.8 million per year... started all 16 games. = 4th.

WTF?

From nfl.com:

Under terms of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, a team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks.

The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four...

One club this year (Arizona) will receive a compensatory pick even though it did not suffer a net loss of compensatory free agents last year. Under the formula, the compensatory free agents Arizona lost were ranked higher than the ones it signed (by a specified point differential based upon salary and performance).

You can't just compare Faneca to Scott. You have to compare the net result of added and lost compensatory free agents by each team.

 

[coolnerd]

Seems like this system is busted. I'd think this would encourage GMs (I'm looking at you A.J.) to trade pending free agents rather than letting them walk and take their chances with whatever the ouija board compensation formula spits out.

My understanding is that few GMs make any decisions based on the compensatory pick system. Not only are you potentialy not improving your 2009 team, but the draft pick is not this year and the GMs themselves don't know that wacky formula that says guys like Michael turner and Alan Faneca are not worth the highest possible compensastion.

 

[Marvelous]

A quick thought: Two years ago, the Patriots signed Stallworth to a 1 year show-me deal with some options that the team did not pick up. And they get a 5th round pick for him after he did not work out. This year, the Patriots have signed Joey Galloway among others, to a 1 year contract. If he leaves and signs with another team next year, the Patriots could get another comp pick for him. I think the Patriots have found a way to get more draft picks through the compensatory picks process.

The thing with Galloway is that he would need to sign a decent size contract to merit consideration for a compensatory pcik. Given that he signed for $1.1 million this year and is 37 or 38, I'm guessing it's unlikely he will be worth one down stream.

I think the cutoff is under $900k. It does not have to be much of a contract to get in consideration for a comp pick. And New England gets them every year.

 

[Adebisi]

A quick thought: Two years ago, the Patriots signed Stallworth to a 1 year show-me deal with some options that the team did not pick up. And they get a 5th round pick for him after he did not work out.

Did they get the 5th specifically for Stallworth, or did they get a package of picks for a package of players? I was under the impression that it was the latter.

 

[Gr00vus]

Seems like this system is busted. I'd think this would encourage GMs (I'm looking at you A.J.) to trade pending free agents rather than letting them walk and take their chances with whatever the ouija board compensation formula spits out.

My understanding is that few GMs make any decisions based on the compensatory pick system. Not only are you potentialy not improving your 2009 team, but the draft pick is not this year and the GMs themselves don't know that wacky formula that says guys like Michael turner and Alan Faneca are not worth the highest possible compensastion.

The Chargers' GM seems to be an exception then - he's always stating that he's happy to let guys walk and get the compensation picks. And that's what he's done. He definitely makes decisions planning for compensatory picks.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

You can't just compare Faneca to Scott. You have to compare the net result of added and lost compensatory free agents by each team.

Yeah, but the thing is, you pretty much can in this case.OK, so let's look at the Steelers net result. Clark Haggans out and Mewelde Moore in should cancel each other out (or at least in any other year they should have -- similar contracts, situational players) and that leaves the Steelers with the Net loss of Faneca.

The Colts only lost Jake Scott, no one else, and didn't bring anyone else in.

 

[Dexter Manley]

You can't just compare Faneca to Scott. You have to compare the net result of added and lost compensatory free agents by each team.

Yeah, but the thing is, you pretty much can in this case.OK, so let's look at the Steelers net result. Clark Haggans out and Mewelde Moore in should cancel each other out (or at least in any other year they should have -- similar contracts, situational players) and that leaves the Steelers with the Net loss of Faneca.

The Colts only lost Jake Scott, no one else, and didn't bring anyone else in.

I've never heard or seen this brought up, but is it possible that a team's finish is factored into what type of compensatory pick they get? So if a team wins the Super Bowl, or makes the final 4 or final 8, for example, they don't get as good of pick(s) as other teams? I was just thinking about this when reviewing the new rules in the potential upcoming uncapped year, where the team's playoff finish the previous year is factored in to what they can do in FA.For example, teams that make the Super Bowl may get their picks knocked down 2 rounds. Teams that finish in the top 8 may get their picks knocked down 1 round.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I've never heard or seen this brought up, but is it possible that a team's finish is factored into what type of compensatory pick they get? So if a team wins the Super Bowl, or makes the final 4 or final 8, for example, they don't get as good of pick(s) as other teams? I was just thinking about this when reviewing the new rules in the potential upcoming uncapped year, where the team's playoff finish the previous year is factored in to what they can do in FA.

For example, teams that make the Super Bowl may get their picks knocked down 2 rounds. Teams that finish in the top 8 may get their picks knocked down 1 round.

The Patriots got a 3rd, 5th, and 7th in 2005 after winning it all.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I've never heard or seen this brought up, but is it possible that a team's finish is factored into what type of compensatory pick they get? So if a team wins the Super Bowl, or makes the final 4 or final 8, for example, they don't get as good of pick(s) as other teams? I was just thinking about this when reviewing the new rules in the potential upcoming uncapped year, where the team's playoff finish the previous year is factored in to what they can do in FA.

For example, teams that make the Super Bowl may get their picks knocked down 2 rounds. Teams that finish in the top 8 may get their picks knocked down 1 round.

The Patriots got a 3rd, 5th, and 7th in 2005 after winning it all.

And they weren't projected to get better picks, right? Is it possible that the league has tweaked the rules since then? I'm just brainstorming here trying to figure this Faneca pick out.

 

[Steelers]

Interestingly, the Steelers 5th round selection will likely outperform most other teams 3rd round choices.

Yes, Picksburgh got hosed. It's inconceivable!!!

Will it ultimately have a tremendous detrimental effect?

Doubtful.................

The front office will continue to do their excellent work in picking players for value and to fill in needed holes (AKA the offensive line).

Long Live Willie Colon, once we upgrade he would make a lovely Detroit Lion or Cleveland Brown.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I've never heard or seen this brought up, but is it possible that a team's finish is factored into what type of compensatory pick they get? So if a team wins the Super Bowl, or makes the final 4 or final 8, for example, they don't get as good of pick(s) as other teams? I was just thinking about this when reviewing the new rules in the potential upcoming uncapped year, where the team's playoff finish the previous year is factored in to what they can do in FA.

For example, teams that make the Super Bowl may get their picks knocked down 2 rounds. Teams that finish in the top 8 may get their picks knocked down 1 round.

The Patriots got a 3rd, 5th, and 7th in 2005 after winning it all.

And they weren't projected to get better picks, right? Is it possible that the league has tweaked the rules since then? I'm just brainstorming here trying to figure this Faneca pick out.

no clue what they were projected to get. I can't imagine they took the "downgrade" hit and still got a third. I know it just sounds like homer sour grapes but this is as big a head-scratcher as any I've seen in the few years I've been paying attn to comp. picks.

 

[Donnybrook]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moorea Fifth is a load of crap.

Do you think that Mewelde Moore even counts in the formula? His contract wasn't big. Vikings did not even get a 7th round pick for him.

 

[Godsbrother]

The Steelers were (-) Alan Faneca and Clark Haggans. They were (+) Mewelde Moorea Fifth is a load of crap.

Do you think that Mewelde Moore even counts in the formula? His contract wasn't big. Vikings did not even get a 7th round pick for him.

Good point. I can't figure out how Faneca only merits a 5th round but it would be nice if the NFL would explain the process. Why the big secret?

 

[tommyGunZ]

Seems like this system is busted. I'd think this would encourage GMs (I'm looking at you A.J.) to trade pending free agents rather than letting them walk and take their chances with whatever the ouija board compensation formula spits out.

My understanding is that few GMs make any decisions based on the compensatory pick system. Not only are you potentialy not improving your 2009 team, but the draft pick is not this year and the GMs themselves don't know that wacky formula that says guys like Michael turner and Alan Faneca are not worth the highest possible compensastion.

The Chargers' GM seems to be an exception then - he's always stating that he's happy to let guys walk and get the compensation picks. And that's what he's done. He definitely makes decisions planning for compensatory picks.

A GM would be negligent not to consider the compensation picks when making a decision to keep/trade an upcoming FA. He has to weigh the value of getting the final season out of the FA-to-be plus the comp pick vs. whatever he can get in a trade for that player.

 

[coolnerd]

Seems like this system is busted. I'd think this would encourage GMs (I'm looking at you A.J.) to trade pending free agents rather than letting them walk and take their chances with whatever the ouija board compensation formula spits out.

My understanding is that few GMs make any decisions based on the compensatory pick system. Not only are you potentialy not improving your 2009 team, but the draft pick is not this year and the GMs themselves don't know that wacky formula that says guys like Michael turner and Alan Faneca are not worth the highest possible compensastion.

The Chargers' GM seems to be an exception then - he's always stating that he's happy to let guys walk and get the compensation picks. And that's what he's done. He definitely makes decisions planning for compensatory picks.

You could also make a case for the Bengals because they cheap and maybe for the Patriots because they seem to always sign a bunch of 1 year FAs, so they are on the plus side of the equation and get extra draft picks more years than not.

 

[coolnerd]

Seems like this system is busted. I'd think this would encourage GMs (I'm looking at you A.J.) to trade pending free agents rather than letting them walk and take their chances with whatever the ouija board compensation formula spits out.

My understanding is that few GMs make any decisions based on the compensatory pick system. Not only are you potentialy not improving your 2009 team, but the draft pick is not this year and the GMs themselves don't know that wacky formula that says guys like Michael turner and Alan Faneca are not worth the highest possible compensastion.

The Chargers' GM seems to be an exception then - he's always stating that he's happy to let guys walk and get the compensation picks. And that's what he's done. He definitely makes decisions planning for compensatory picks.

A GM would be negligent not to consider the compensation picks when making a decision to keep/trade an upcoming FA. He has to weigh the value of getting the final season out of the FA-to-be plus the comp pick vs. whatever he can get in a trade for that player.

Problem is that the GM really don't know what the compensation is (and it is over a year away). Outside of knowing they need to sign fewer FA than they lose to qualify, it is a guessing game and is influenced by bunches of stuff they don't control ( the amount the players sign for, playing time of the this player and whther or not he gets post season awards). If you are ok knowing you will get somethhing, sure don't sign the veteran back-up player, but if turner and Faneca don't yield a 3rd rounder a year later, then is a 2010 5th worth risking a down grade on the field in 2009.

 

[Domination]

Just figured that I would mention this.

With the Chiefs getting a 2nd Rd comp pick, realistically all they did was move to the end of the rd for Cassel and Vrabel.

This trade now looks even better for the Chiefs.

 

[ReggieHammond]

Just figured that I would mention this.With the Chiefs getting a 2nd Rd comp pick, realistically all they where did was move to the end of the rd for Cassel and Vrabel.This trade now looks even better for the Chiefs.

Not sure where you managed to come up with this one. There's no such thing as a 2nd round comp pick and the only pick KC got was a 7th which I believe is the last pick in the whole draft!