rockaction
Footballguy
I’m also not offended if you abort the mission a little ways in. I hate compulsory listening and don’t want to force that on you. Peace.
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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd (370 Viewers)
- Thread starter Dr. Octopus
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
They are so good. @landrys hat did Luna for the most recent MAD artist round — that was some good stuff too. I haven’t listened to as much Dean Wareham post-Galaxie 500 as I should.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
All results are final.
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Below are the albums I ranked that didn't make the Top 350.
Some of these were mentioned by Doc Octopus, but largely I didn't talk about them, so I figure inclusion is fair.
14. Holy Diver - Dio
27. Candlebox - Candlebox
33. Tribute - Ozzy Osbourne
39. Louder than Love - Soundgarden
42. Get Your Wings - Aerosmith
43. Pretenders - Pretenders
49. Dream Evil - Dio
51. Couldn't Stand the Weather - Stevie Ray Vaughn
54. Duke - Genesis
57. 'Live' Bullet - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
58. Love it to Death - Alice Cooper
61. Fashion Nugget - Cake
62. Eliminator - ZZ Top
63. Infinity - Journey
67. Wolfmother - Wolfmother
68. Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog
69. Recovering the Satellites - Counting Crows
The Dio shouldn't be a surprise to M-AD veterans, nor Candlebox's debut. "Tribute" here is the 1987 live album highlighting Randy Rhoads. It has most of "Blizzard of Ozz", so I plausibly could've joined that group, but didn't. I get it if "Louder than Love" isn't in the Top 3 Soundgarden albums you think of, but it just has too many memories for me NOT to include. We had no Aerosmith, Seger or Cooper on the top 350, but then again, they were also on the back half of my list. Similarly, I can't be stunned about the last 6 not making it, though I thought Temple of the Dog might get some (more) love.
Some of these were mentioned by Doc Octopus, but largely I didn't talk about them, so I figure inclusion is fair.
14. Holy Diver - Dio
27. Candlebox - Candlebox
33. Tribute - Ozzy Osbourne
39. Louder than Love - Soundgarden
42. Get Your Wings - Aerosmith
43. Pretenders - Pretenders
49. Dream Evil - Dio
51. Couldn't Stand the Weather - Stevie Ray Vaughn
54. Duke - Genesis
57. 'Live' Bullet - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
58. Love it to Death - Alice Cooper
61. Fashion Nugget - Cake
62. Eliminator - ZZ Top
63. Infinity - Journey
67. Wolfmother - Wolfmother
68. Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog
69. Recovering the Satellites - Counting Crows
The Dio shouldn't be a surprise to M-AD veterans, nor Candlebox's debut. "Tribute" here is the 1987 live album highlighting Randy Rhoads. It has most of "Blizzard of Ozz", so I plausibly could've joined that group, but didn't. I get it if "Louder than Love" isn't in the Top 3 Soundgarden albums you think of, but it just has too many memories for me NOT to include. We had no Aerosmith, Seger or Cooper on the top 350, but then again, they were also on the back half of my list. Similarly, I can't be stunned about the last 6 not making it, though I thought Temple of the Dog might get some (more) love.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Here is my full list
Throwing Copper Live
Morning View Incubus
Break the Cycle Staind
Audioslave Audioslave
Nevermind Nirvana
We are not Alone Breaking Benjamin
Slippery When Wet Bon Jovi
Toxicity System of a Down
Fear of the Dark Iron Maiden
Christmas Eve and Other Stories Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Sixteen Stone Bush
Hybrid Theory Linkin Park
The Black Album Metalica
Godsmack Godsmack
Tragic Kingdom No Doubt
Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette
Life Dope
The Greyest of Blue Skies Finger Eleven
Come Clean Puddle of Mudd
The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
Thriller Michael Jackson
Follow the Leader Korn
I'm tempted to get in on the album exchange but I'm already behind and don't want to commit to more stuffs
I was hoping that someone might listen to that TSO album but no one cared.
Kinda surprised that no one listed Bush. I also assume that Finger Eleven is largely unknown.
Throwing Copper Live
Morning View Incubus
Break the Cycle Staind
Audioslave Audioslave
Nevermind Nirvana
We are not Alone Breaking Benjamin
Slippery When Wet Bon Jovi
Toxicity System of a Down
Fear of the Dark Iron Maiden
Christmas Eve and Other Stories Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Sixteen Stone Bush
Hybrid Theory Linkin Park
The Black Album Metalica
Godsmack Godsmack
Tragic Kingdom No Doubt
Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette
Life Dope
The Greyest of Blue Skies Finger Eleven
Come Clean Puddle of Mudd
The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
Thriller Michael Jackson
Follow the Leader Korn
I'm tempted to get in on the album exchange but I'm already behind and don't want to commit to more stuffs
I was hoping that someone might listen to that TSO album but no one cared.
Kinda surprised that no one listed Bush. I also assume that Finger Eleven is largely unknown.
rockaction
Footballguy
MAC_32 probably just hearted you.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
at least someone hearts me
rockaction
Footballguy
I pulled a Spinal Tap and turned it up to eleven for hip-hop. I totally bricked on Clipse's Lord Willin' and maybe Jay-Z's Black Album or 4:44 or The Blueprint, but I just don't listen to him as much as I used to and the act gets a bit old. Lupe Fiasco is another miss or belongs in the top 100.
19 - College Dropout - Kanye West
23 - Skelethon - Aesop Rock
24 - Cancer 4 Cure - El-P
27 - Paul's Boutique - Beastie Boys
28 - Aethiopes - billy woods
35 - Run The Jewels II - Run The Jewels
37 - The Carnival - Wyclef Jean
44 - Phrenology - The Roots
45 - Fishscale - Ghostface Killah
51 - Quality - Talib Kweli
55 - Summertime '06 - Vince Staples
70-100
Black on Both Sides - Mos Def
Food and Liquor - Lupe Fiasco
Lord Willin' - Clipse
Daytona - Pusha T
King - T.I.
Uptown Saturday Night - Camp Lo
Manger on McNichols - Boldy James
The Grey Album - Danger Mouse, Jay-Z, and The Beatles
Punk and proto-punk and disco/dance-punk albums that missed the mark (and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are punk-adjacent and Mogwai self-identifies, so I don't begrudge it):
69 - Echoes - The Rapture
66 - Destroy-Oh-Boy!! - New Bomb Turks
61 - Is Survived By . . . - Touché Amoré
53 - Plastic Surgery Disasters - Dead Kennedys
40 - Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
30 - Rocket To Russia - The Ramones
26 - Young, Loud, and Snotty - Dead Boys
22 - Show Your Bones - Yeah Yeah Yeahs
20 - Mogwai - Mr. Beast
16 - Damned Damned Damned - The Damned
12 - Fun House - The Stooges
11 - Eat To The Beat - Blondie
9 - New York Dolls - New York Dolls
70-100
And Out Come The Wolves . . . - Rancid
Get Action! - Teengenerate
Punk In Drublic - NOFX
Coral Fang - The Distillers
The Argument - Fugazi
Singles Going Steady - Buzzcocks
Post-Nothing - Japandroids
eta* Any edits after The Grey Album and Post-Nothing are bullcrap so I don't keep doing it (aside from editing out those that made it into the countdown!).
eta2* Forgot to thank kupcho1 for all his effort that went into helping Doc out. Thanks, kupcho1. Your template was huge in bringing all this together, apparently. That is much appreciated.
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
Thanks much to @Dr. Octopus and @kupcho1 for all their work in this thread. Great job and a lot of fun......
Here's the rest of my list that didn't make the cut:
Strange Times - The Chameleons
Neon Golden - The Notwist
The Meadowlands - The Wrens
Ocean Rain - Echo & the Bunnymen
Sound of Silver - LCD Soundsystem
Lost Souls - Doves
Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
Girls Can Tell - Spoon
Purple Mountains - Purple Mountains
Keep It Like A Secret - Built to Spill
Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
Teens of Denial - Car Seat Headrest
American Water - Silver Jews
Nilsson Schmilsson - Harry Nilsson
Closer - Joy Division
Alligator - The National
The Life Pursuit - Belle & Sebastian
The Head on the Door - The Cure
Summerteeth - Wilco
Kaputt - Destroyer
Spiderland - Slint
Blacklisted - Neko Case
Either/Or - Elliot Smith
Modern Vampires of the City - Vampire Weekend
You Forgot It In People - Broken Social Scene
Bee Thousand - Guided By Voices
McLusky Do Dallas - McLusky
Introduction, Presence - Nation of Language
Document - R.E.M.
Here's the rest of my list that didn't make the cut:
Strange Times - The Chameleons
Neon Golden - The Notwist
The Meadowlands - The Wrens
Ocean Rain - Echo & the Bunnymen
Sound of Silver - LCD Soundsystem
Lost Souls - Doves
Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
Girls Can Tell - Spoon
Purple Mountains - Purple Mountains
Keep It Like A Secret - Built to Spill
Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
Teens of Denial - Car Seat Headrest
American Water - Silver Jews
Nilsson Schmilsson - Harry Nilsson
Closer - Joy Division
Alligator - The National
The Life Pursuit - Belle & Sebastian
The Head on the Door - The Cure
Summerteeth - Wilco
Kaputt - Destroyer
Spiderland - Slint
Blacklisted - Neko Case
Either/Or - Elliot Smith
Modern Vampires of the City - Vampire Weekend
You Forgot It In People - Broken Social Scene
Bee Thousand - Guided By Voices
McLusky Do Dallas - McLusky
Introduction, Presence - Nation of Language
Document - R.E.M.
rockaction
Footballguy
Four randos from the albums I listed above. Two from the top two punk albums and two from the bottom three of the rap category, which should be, in the words of Mav and Goose when civvy Charlie Blackwood asks—inverted. You really could flip the order of the albums I ranked and I'd be happy with it. It's probably more accurate, actually.
A little almost girl group nod with this one
Jet boy's fly you know jet boy's gone/jet boy stole my baby/ridin' around New York City so high/like he was my baby . . .
Forget Kendrick's overt rebellion, this was the sneakiest "forget that and forget you" album of the decade. Vince doesn’t flinch. This video became even more popular when an upper-middle-class woman was completely appalled by it in a reaction video that went semi-viral (not too big, but big enough for the journos to comment on it). Vince Staples's reply: "She's right."
A more fictional narrative and a masterclass in Captain Insano storytelling narrative set to beats. Better than any mafioso movie, even those cool ones from the seventies.
A little almost girl group nod with this one
Jet boy's fly you know jet boy's gone/jet boy stole my baby/ridin' around New York City so high/like he was my baby . . .
Forget Kendrick's overt rebellion, this was the sneakiest "forget that and forget you" album of the decade. Vince doesn’t flinch. This video became even more popular when an upper-middle-class woman was completely appalled by it in a reaction video that went semi-viral (not too big, but big enough for the journos to comment on it). Vince Staples's reply: "She's right."
A more fictional narrative and a masterclass in Captain Insano storytelling narrative set to beats. Better than any mafioso movie, even those cool ones from the seventies.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I was sure you picked this. In the PM conversation I was in, I said, "I was sure Marco would pick . . . "
We couldn't get it over the finish line. I had it at #21 for 50 points.
the moops
Footballguy
if I had made a list, most of these probably would have made it. Good stuff
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.
and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
rockaction
Footballguy
They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
I remember one of our fraternity brothers particularly liked "Glycerine" or one of the slower tracks ("Comedown"?). Bush was treated as sort of just there by the press. Not hated like Everclear, but never loved. I think that they were more popular than acclaimed. I thought they were better than the press said but was never into them, really. They were perfectly fine for that era. I don't think Rossdale's looks and status as a foreigner helped. His marriage to Gwen Stefani took them away from the prying eyes of the indie journals and made them celebs, which might have been the indie journals' problem with both of them the whole time.
I just sort of shrugged. Better to move in the water of Bush/No Doubt than the stuff I saw at ET's (a bar) I went to on Sunday night, which had earnest girls in bikinis (outside and unpaid) dancing to something about dropping or shaking that *** and slapping their own asses as they rode an imaginary pole to the ground. I think "Spiderwebs" was a little more conducive to societal glue than what I saw. A young, slightly pudgy Latino wearing a (no ********) sombrero-looking thing, popped out of his van (the parties were not together but somewhat distantly adjacent in the parking lot):
"Hey man, you looking for something?"
"Uh . . . "
"I got my plug on call."
"Oh, I only have twenty."
"Oh, cool. Well, take care!"
I had stopped to check out the scene because I heard it across the way at the gas station. There were new fences all over the place, and they were graffiti-laden. This is way, way out of place in the town I live in, but it is getting bigger, and the corporations have purchased a lot of the houses on the market and now rent them instead of selling them. So we got graffiti and that scene, which is begging for some negative attention. I dunno. I don't see that lasting entirely too long unless the owners have an in somewhere. I doubt that.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
From what I see, it got middling reviews. I see a 4 1/2 star on allmusic, but also a lot of B- and 2 or 3 star reviews, and the Brits seemed to hate it.They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
Album sales never mean much. People like me bought it because I bought nearly everything, but it had a few good songs and sat in my pile. Others I new bought it because Gavin was dreamy and it had a few good songs, but mostly sat in their pile. My reaction is like yours - it's not terrible, it just wasn't a great album IMO and I didn't know many people who held it in high praise or listened to it a lot.
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
Yeah that's similar to me (and I'm a Brit) - I think the concensus amongst people that I discussed them with was that they just weren't authentic or original, and we didn't see why you'd listen to them over Nirvana or the Pixies, say, both of whom clearly had an influence on Bush. I think perceived "authenticity" might be a slightly bigger thing over here than in the US, some other British artists/bands who were more successful in the States were Billy Idol, The Fixx and A Flock Of Seagulls for whom I think similar comments might apply from a British point of view.From what I see, it got middling reviews. I see a 4 1/2 star on allmusic, but also a lot of B- and 2 or 3 star reviews, and the Brits seemed to hate it.They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
Album sales never mean much. People like me bought it because I bought nearly everything, but it had a few good songs and sat in my pile. Others I new bought it because Gavin was dreamy and it had a few good songs, but mostly sat in their pile. My reaction is like yours - it's not terrible, it just wasn't a great album IMO and I didn't know many people who held it in high praise or listened to it a lot.
landrys hat
Footballguy
Lost Souls was #220!
I am surprised Nilsson Schmilsson didn't make it though.