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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 12. Ten – Pearl Jam (230 Viewers)
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KarmaPolice
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If you haven't ever listened to it, I would suggest for you Faith No More - Angel Dust ('92). I was listening to the album a bit, and IMO it has DNA of a handful of albums on your list from Incubus to No Doubt to nu Metal to stuff as aggressive as System of a Down. It wasn't on the countdown, it was just mentioned in one of the "pairings" posts with myself and @Rand al Thor having ranked it.
Otherwise, my favorite Maiden is Seventh Son of a Seventh Son ('88). It's a little different from their other stuff - a concept album that leans a bit prog. Another I probably under ranked with 33 points. A seminal album for me in Middle School and in shaping my leans in the genre.
If you haven't ever listened to it, I would suggest for you Faith No More - Angel Dust ('92). I was listening to the album a bit, and IMO it has DNA of a handful of albums on your list from Incubus to No Doubt to nu Metal to stuff as aggressive as System of a Down. It wasn't on the countdown, it was just mentioned in one of the "pairings" posts with myself and @Rand al Thor having ranked it.
Otherwise, my favorite Maiden is Seventh Son of a Seventh Son ('88). It's a little different from their other stuff - a concept album that leans a bit prog. Another I probably under ranked with 33 points. A seminal album for me in Middle School and in shaping my leans in the genre.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Doh, forgot that one where they walk across the street.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
My favorites here are probably "Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes" and "That Was Your Mother". I do love some zydeco.37. Graceland – Paul Simon (482 points)
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Graceland is the seventh solo studio album by the American singer-songwriter Paul Simon. It was produced by Simon, engineered by Roy Halee and released on August 25, 1986, by Warner Bros. Records. It incorporates genres including pop, rock, a cappella, zydeco, and South African styles such as isicathamiya and mbaqanga.
Organizations such as Artists United Against Apartheid criticized Simon for breaking the cultural boycott on South Africa imposed for its policy of apartheid. Simon responded that Graceland was a political statement that showcased collaboration between black and white people and raised international awareness of apartheid. Some praised him for helping popularize African music in the west, while others accused him of appropriating the music of another culture.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I do like 7th Son of a 7th son! (the song) but I will listen to both albums
BroncoFreak_2K3
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I have a pick in mind for the playlist, but I'd love to hear other suggestions!38. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band – The Beatles (466 point)
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Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (often referred to simply as Sgt. Pepper) is the eighth studio album by the English rock band the Beatles. Released on 26 May 1967, Sgt. Pepper is regarded by musicologists as an early concept album that advanced the roles of sound composition, extended form, psychedelic imagery, record sleeves, and the producer in popular music. The album had an immediate cross-generational impact and was associated with numerous touchstones of the era's youth culture, such as fashion, drugs, mysticism, and a sense of optimism and empowerment. Critics lauded the album for its innovations in songwriting, production and graphic design, for bridging a cultural divide between popular music and high art, and for reflecting the interests of contemporary youth and the counterculture.
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You're right.
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UncleZen
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Even though the Beastie Boys are known to let the beat mmmm drop.Has there ever been a hip hop experiment where other rappers laid down vocals over that Paul's Boutique production?You are right that it's Ad Rock that is the more frequent offender, but where I was going is I think because it's 2 in that range after a long bout of listening it wears on me slightly. Still LOVE many of the songs, but in the end I think they are more of a playlist group for me vs an album group.
That said, some of my favorite new to me songs were the few off Hot Sauce that were featured in the MAD31 countdown. I've watched the video for Make Some Noise so many times.
Oh, I get your point now. Yeah, they've got two nasally guys. I have trouble with it also—there are times that I'm just about to turn it off and I've just turned it on— but their production and music is so damn good. And Ad Rock is a very, very good emcee. Mike Diamond and MCA aren't really. Ad does some massively heavy lifting and always did. Plus, I was reading and watching something about them and somebody noted how absolutely awesome their timing and pacing of their sing/rapping was on the first album. And "Rhymin' & Stealin'" is a song that you actually have to be incredibly talented to carry that tune and they do somehow. MCA fits that track. He fits that album. He did not fit once they left the '80s but he was their spiritual leader and friend so what are they gonna do? It's not even a question what to do. He's just not a great emcee by that point.
I don't think so. Record labels and copyright law would really prevent that. The contract the Beasties had with Capitol would almost certainly prevent that. I can look up who owns the Beastie Boys' masters and publishing rights. They probably have some sort of split, I'd imagine, although the Beasties were one of the first to have a vanity label (Grand Royal). There are often clauses in contracts that prevent guest appearances and stuff like that.
What is strange is that those Dust Brothers beats were so “layered” (that’s how they are referred to) that the Bros. didn’t think they could be rapped over and were going to strip the layers away but the Beasties wanted them as-is. And there you have Paul’s Boutique, which sounded strange and was such a flop that the President of Capitol Records’s boss fired him and did so because they were a “laughingstock” for the two-album, $3M deal they’d signed the Beasties to.
PS there were apparently a lot of down-low or low-key hip-hop artists who wouldn’t admit it (the Beasties were jokes at the time in that world), but were really jealous/mad bro about the Beasties’ album, especially that they got those beats. The low-key cats had a strange admiration for the Beasties for finding and then using them like they did. That was in a few histories of the record I read today. "Paul’s Boutique gave the Beastie Boys the critical acclaim they desperately desired. Rolling Stone manoeuvred a U-turn and brazenly called it, “the Pet Sounds / The Dark Side of the Moon of hip hop.” But more importantly, it also earned the group respect with their peers and idols. Miles Davis claimed he never got tired of listening to it, and Public Enemy’s Chuck D even said, ‘The dirty secret among the Black hip hop community at the time of the release was that Paul’s Boutique had the best beats.”- Classic Album Sundays
simey
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My favorite from the album is the duo (they must be mates) of Sgt. Pepper's LonelyI have a pick in mind for the playlist, but I'd love to hear other suggestions!38. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band – The Beatles (466 point)
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s Club Band Reprise and A Day in The Life. They are companions and not to be separated.
krista4
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My favorite from the album is the duo (they must be mates) of Sgt. Pepper's LonelyI have a pick in mind for the playlist, but I'd love to hear other suggestions!38. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band – The Beatles (466 point)
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Just like the other Sgt. Pepper's is not to be separated from With a Little Help from My Friends!
simey
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Right you are!My favorite from the album is the duo (they must be mates) of Sgt. Pepper's LonelyI have a pick in mind for the playlist, but I'd love to hear other suggestions!38. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band – The Beatles (466 point)
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Just like the other Sgt. Pepper's is not to be separated from With a Little Help from My Friends!
krista4
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Best moment on the album...
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream Ahhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
That's a great one. I'm also partial to "Rita!" followed by the jaunty piano bit, on "Lovely Rita."
krista4
Footballguy
Best moment on the album...
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream Ahhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
That's a great one. I'm also partial to "Rita!" followed by the jaunty piano bit, on "Lovely Rita."
Also, any of Ringo's drum fills, each of which is different, on "A Day in the Life."
simey
Footballguy
girrllll, what da hell you doin' leavin' da album off your list? I originally didn't have it on my list, but then kept thinking about it, and had to add it. It was the one I was going back and forth on with Help!Best moment on the album...
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream Ahhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
That's a great one. I'm also partial to "Rita!" followed by the jaunty piano bit, on "Lovely Rita."
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UncleZen
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I love them both, almost equally, but I would give the slight edge to Rhythm of the Saints as well. Much better is an exaggeration.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
I hope it's A Hard Days Night - fantastic album.
zamboni
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It is indeed, but I don’t expect to see it.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
Woke up, fell out of bedBest moment on the album...
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream Ahhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up, I noticed I was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
My foot just won't stop tapping to this part of the song!
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Why deny the obvious? Graceland is better.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Mike Patton is super talented, but I’ve never really gotten into much more than a few faith no more hits
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Last few days have been quite a dud in here outside of Pearl Jam, hopefully we’ll get back to good albums tomorrow
KarmaPolice
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Huh, you learn something new every day- i was looking through the wiki entry for the album as I listen to Breaking Benjamin and see credits by one William Corgan. 
BLOCKED_PUNT
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yep, he wrote/co-wrote 3 songs
krista4
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girrllll, what da hell you doin' leavin' da album off your list? I actually originally didn't have it on my list, but then kept thinking about it, and had to add it. It was the one I was going back and forth on with Help!Best moment on the album...
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream Ahhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
That's a great one. I'm also partial to "Rita!" followed by the jaunty piano bit, on "Lovely Rita."
My list had Help!, Let It Be, and three others that haven't shown up. Four of those were in my top 12! It felt egregious to have more.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I hear it a lot on Forget It. That is a very Pumpkinesque tune.
rockaction
Footballguy
girrllll, what da hell you doin' leavin' da album off your list? I actually originally didn't have it on my list, but then kept thinking about it, and had to add it. It was the one I was going back and forth on with Help!Best moment on the album...
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream Ahhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhh, ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhhhh
That's a great one. I'm also partial to "Rita!" followed by the jaunty piano bit, on "Lovely Rita."
My list had Help!, Let It Be, and three others that haven't shown up. Four of those were in my top 12! It felt egregious to have more.
I picked the chalkiest (or what I thought was the chalkiest) and I’m thinking it might not show. I will be stunned, which is okay. Just maybe went with history and all that maybe too much but it’s what I consider the Beatles last one before they became serious Kultur as opposed to rock n’ roll music.
BLOCKED_PUNT
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It might make for a boring countdown but if you think V album is better than X, Y and Z albums then you should list em'. Who cares if it's all the same bands-it's being honest.
rockaction
Footballguy
You could have done that here. It’s a self-imposed limitation and people treated it differently. I have no regrets doing that and only say anything by way of explaining why I picked that particular one as opposed to the others by that artist.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Personally, I view these more as a vehicle for discussion of great ________ (whatever the countdown is) vs. a literal list of my favorites. Much of that has to do with the monumental task of actually trying to figure what those 70 are and why because that will depend on my mood at the time anyway. I attempted to give an honest, accurate view of what I listen to currently, but that did mean I leaned more modern and I left off albums I truly think are great and were important to me and my tastes back in the day like Ministry or Huey Lewis or Tool.
Yeah, if I was being honest i probably would have 5 Radiohead, 7-8 Opeth, 6 People Under Stairs, 6-7 Thin Lizzy, etc. I just decided it was more interesting this way and i could always recommend other albums if anything from those artists generated any interest.
BLOCKED_PUNT
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It's fine either way. I'm not calling out anyone for being dishonest or anything. Just saying that I think it would be ok if someone put ELO albums if they felt like those 15 albums were some of the best ever made and you shouldn't feel guilty.
Pip's Invitation
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Caddyshack 2, dude.
Pip's Invitation
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I would have included 15 Neil Young albums but I didn’t want to offend Lambskin’s tender sensibilities.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I like Graceland better but it’s not a crazy proposition because Rythm of the Saints is a great album and it’s dives even more into the world music realm than Graceland did.You're right.
I actually like Paul Simon’s Concert in Central Park album better than the S&G classic, and not just because I attended the former one but because of the Rythm of the Saints songs. They sound great live.
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Eephus
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I like Graceland better but it’s not a crazy proposition because Rythm of the Saints is a great album and it’s dives even more into the world music realm than Graceland did.You're right.
I actually like Paul Simon’s Concert in Central Park album better than the S&G classic, and not just because I attended the former one but because of the Rythm of the Saints songs. They sound great live.
Still Crazy After All These Years doesn't take the musical risks of Graceland or Rhythm but it's chock full of great songs
rockaction
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I figured. Just saying we all had the option and I think the limiting comes in because there’s a feeling we want a diversity of artists. The four Beastie Boys and four or five Tool albums let me know this was a non-absolute version of the Prisoner’s Dilemma and that the self-limitation didn’t achieve the goal of those who did that. It’s a loaded term and I say it dispassionately but that’s the result. Can’t think of a better word. We actually did it right—we need more people. That’s the takeaway. Everybody was awesome. It’s too small a sample size, and tweaking it would skew it in a different unforeseen way, so that is not a gripe.
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I liked it! (but don't love it) It's unique and experimental sounding. The vocal range is interesting. RV is my least favorite. On my first listen I liked Land of Sunshine but on second I liked Midlife Crisis. (not quite there yet.) Also really liked Midnight Cowboy. I think you get me though.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Nice! Glad you listened and liked it. My favorite is Everything's Ruined and most days next are Kindergarten and A Small Victory.
I listened to BB and I am finishing up Dope as I type. Reviews coming soon.
KarmaPolice
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I also agree on RV one being the weak point, but i love the rest enough to power through it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I looked at this like a “desert island” type list - meaning if I could only listen to 70 albums for rest of my life what would I choose?
So I’d want some variety in that light. With that said, my two favorite bands got three slots and I had about 6-7 other aritists/bands with two slots - because there’s a reason I count those bands among my favorites.
Best answer though is what Karma said, much of these exercises are about the discussion and spreading music you love to others.
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Pip's Invitation
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Does it have to do with Econoline vans?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Exactly my approach as well - gut reaction right now what 70 albums would I want on my island. Some older stuff got the last cuts as I've heard them a ton and could hear them in my head as well. Some I put over them Iam still exploring and like discovering new things on relistens.
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BLOCKED_PUNT
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Yeah, I don't think there's a wrong answear here. If you want to spend the rest of your life listening to a handful of a certain bands albums that's fine and if you want to diversify then that's fine too. Art is art.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Sure, 50 lists is a tiny sample size and we’ve seen personal tastes have a major effect on the rankings, but that kind of was the idea. At this point I’m glad there wasn’t a 100 participants because of all the work but it would have made for a better countdown of course.
KarmaPolice
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Man, I forget Epic was a late 80s album. I listened to that one a ton too.
rockaction
Footballguy
We had a very well-read poster botch that one the other day in a thread about coffee. He didn’t want “coffee that tastes like desert.” I thought, “ you’re cot dam right! All that sand!”
I didn’t comment on it because it would be exacting and schoolmarmy
Yours was funny.
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