Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 38. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band – The Beatles (139 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

44. Tapestry – Carole King (416 points)

@simey #2
@Snoopy #2
@Idiot Boxer #3
@zamboni #13
@timschochet #13
@jwb #30
@Ilov80s #32
@Atomic Punk #46
@Mt. Man #70



Tapestry is the second studio album by the American singer-songwriter Carole King. Produced by Lou Adler, it was released on February 10, 1971, by Ode Records. The album's lead single, "It's Too Late" / "I Feel the Earth Move", spent five weeks at number one on both the Billboard Hot 100 and Easy Listening charts.

The album has received critical acclaim since its release and is widely regarded as one of the greatest albums of all time. It won four Grammy Awards at the 14th Annual Grammys in 1972, including Album of the Year, Song of the Year, and Record of the Year.

This was a favorite of my mom and reminds me Sunday mornings growing up, her cooking in the kitchen and me helping out. Us singing a long (terribly out of key). It's not an album I fire up too often anymore but whenever I do, I am reminded of how great it is. Another album that has more big hits than most artists can muster across 3 or 4 albums. My pick might be Where You Lead?

 

[rockaction]

46. Kind Of Blue – Miles Davis (400 points)

@Chaos34 #1
@simey #9
@ConstruxBoy #10
@Nick Vermeil #13
@Ilove80s #19
@turnjose7 #26
@krista4 #39
Jeb #51

Kind of Blue is a studio album by American jazz musician Miles Davis, released on August 17, 1959, by Columbia Records. For this album, Davis led a sextet featuring saxophonists John Coltrane and Julian "Cannonball" Adderley, pianist Bill Evans, bassist Paul Chambers, and drummer Jimmy Cobb, with new band pianist Wynton Kelly replacing Evans on "Freddie Freeloader". The album was recorded at Columbia's 30th Street Studio in New York City in two sessions on March 2 and April 22, 1959.

One of those albums that somehow manages to be both the "oh you just bought you're first jazz album you newb" and "easily defensible to rank it the best jazz album ever even among hardcore listeners". I like Freddie Freeloader but So What is pretty undeniable.

Sex Pistols and punk. Probably the greatest punk album ever and the one that everybody's ninth-grade sister who is suddenly dangerous and joined the drama club purchases.

 

[Yo Mama]

45. Paul's Boutique – Beastie Boys (414 points)

I was expecting a higher ranking from @rockaction on this one, given what we know his tastes are vis a vis hip-hop production style.

Very fair and I appreciate that you know that I love the collage art/sampling era of hip hop. That's cool. Kanye's College Dropout was my top hip-hip/rap album at #19. I botched hip-hop this time around, but it might be because I've done quite a bit of hip-hop and some dance for the past couple or years and I'm not stoked about most of the new stuff. billy woods' Aethiopes made my list at #28 and that was my only album at all from this decade. And while I didn't have any overt strategy I did consider that if I had smuggled, say, ten more hip-hop albums into my list that it would be a waste.

I picked those I thought might just join forces with Yo Mama, LBL, KP, and others to make the countdown. I picked RTJ II and Phrenology by The Roots specifically because I have seen those pop up here before.

I own Phrenology, but could never consider including it - the peaks are great but not enough quality through the album

I did pick a fair bit of rap and hip hop, some of which got in, some of which has been mentioned in dispatches but mostly ignored, which is fair. What I went for that I've not seen yet that I don't expect to see is:

Deltron 3030's self titled debut - this is a masterpiece concept album
Jurassic 5's self titled album - Jayou and Concrete Schoolyard are classics, album delivers solidly
Dr Dre - 2001 - think the first album got here but I much prefer this one
Public Enemy - Nation of Millions - peak of theirs, thought it might be old school enough to creep in
Jay-Z - The Black Album, Kanye West - Graduation - early 2000's stuff with really strong singles

If I missed any of those being revealed, or if any got a huge number of votes that I'm not expecting then mea culpa

I’ve got 4 more hip-hop albums left that I’m sure missed the top 350 countdown by De La Soul, Outkast, Run the Jewels, and Eric B & Rakim (in that order). I’ll call out the albums once the countdown is done.

Probably wise and respectful. I had a little phone interlude on a walk and was half-talking to the Moms. I could probably delete, but really at this point. Should have just left it as-is and not listed them. Sorry.

No need to redact anything. Just saving my callouts for later when I comment on my albums that missed the overall list.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

but i do agree with him on both now.

we really don't have the same tastes like at all

Hey, we cross paths occasionally, like you fantasy movie list.

Musically, it seems less so.

I mentioned to my wife I've never seen Singles, and my favorite streamer has a "90s Soundtrack Movies" list with it on it. I plan to watch it this month. When i think of Crowe's movies i think shmaltzy, which i am am guessing also irritated wikkid about the movie.

I don't think I made it even close to through Singles and I was going to say it was terrible but I don't think I ever really sat down and tried to watch it. When the best jokes are that Matt Dillon's band is named Citizen ****, your movie is ****ed beyond belief.

Great cameo by the X-man, Xavier McDaniel, though.

 

[Ilov80s]

46. Kind Of Blue – Miles Davis (400 points)

@Chaos34 #1
@simey #9
@ConstruxBoy #10
@Nick Vermeil #13
@Ilove80s #19
@turnjose7 #26
@krista4 #39
Jeb #51

Kind of Blue is a studio album by American jazz musician Miles Davis, released on August 17, 1959, by Columbia Records. For this album, Davis led a sextet featuring saxophonists John Coltrane and Julian "Cannonball" Adderley, pianist Bill Evans, bassist Paul Chambers, and drummer Jimmy Cobb, with new band pianist Wynton Kelly replacing Evans on "Freddie Freeloader". The album was recorded at Columbia's 30th Street Studio in New York City in two sessions on March 2 and April 22, 1959.

One of those albums that somehow manages to be both the "oh you just bought you're first jazz album you newb" and "easily defensible to rank it the best jazz album ever even among hardcore listeners". I like Freddie Freeloader but So What is pretty undeniable.

Sex Pistols and punk. Probably the greatest punk album ever and the one that everybody's ninth-grade sister who is suddenly dangerous and joined the drama club purchases.

That is a good choice too. It's tough because punk is ongoing and people getting into punk now have very likely been doing so through new punk bands or their parents punk bands which at this point is more likely to be Green Day and Rancid than Sex Pistols or The Ramones. Jazz has been frozen in amber for decades and decades.

 

[Val Rannous]

47. 2112 – Rush (398 points)

@Val Rannous #1
@Atomic Punk #1
@zamboni #10
@Yo Mama #11
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #11
@New Binky the Doormat #17
@Mt. Man #55
@jwb #64



2112 (pronounced "twenty-one twelve") is the fourth studio album by Canadian rock band Rush, released in March 1976 by Mercury Records. It reached No. 5 in Canada and became the band's commercial breakthrough in America, peaking at No. 61.

The band was in financial hardship due to the disappointing sales of 1975's Caress of Steel, which also got an unfavorable critical reception and a decline in attendance at its shows. Mercury, their international label, considered dropping them but granted one more album following negotiations with manager Ray Danniels. Rush were pressured to deliver more commercial material but decided to continue developing its progressive rock direction they had explored on Caress of Steel and made the 20-minute futuristic science-fiction title track occupy side one of 2112 with a collection of shorter songs on side two that display their hard rock roots.

I think the second side of this album is so weak, but I guess the epic first side makes up for it.

Nah, there's some good stuff back there - both A Passage to Bangkok and The Twilight Zone are excellent songs. But yes, it's all about side 1.

 

[Tau837]

I’m not one to defend Green Day vehemently but they’re still awfully big. There isn’t a bigger nineties band besides Pearl Jam.

This doesn't resonate with me. Off the top of my head, I think Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Metallica, U2, GNR, and Aerosmith were bigger 90s bands. I had the same reaction as @Dan Lambskin seeing that album in top 50.... seems out of place to me.

ETA: I'm obviously commenting on my own taste with regard to Dookie. My comment about "bigger bands" is probably borne out by metrics like album sales, tour revenue, etc., as well as my impressions. I certainly did not then and would not now think of Green Day as the second biggest band of the 90s. That doesn't mean I'm right.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I love these music threads. This one is a biggie.

Life is busy and I have to play catch up every few days which is a bummer. The banter is the best part and I am speed reading through the posts.

It’s fascinating to see the selections and verifies I am a weirdo. Most of you would never let me pick music for a road trip. Maybe you would for the gym. I worked out listening to Savatage this morning.

"In the hall of the mountain kiiiiiiiing"

 

[Chaos34]

46. Kind Of Blue – Miles Davis (400 points)

@Chaos34 #1
@simey #9
@ConstruxBoy #10
@Nick Vermeil #13
@Ilove80s #19
@turnjose7 #26
@krista4 #39
Jeb #51

Kind of Blue is a studio album by American jazz musician Miles Davis, released on August 17, 1959, by Columbia Records. For this album, Davis led a sextet featuring saxophonists John Coltrane and Julian "Cannonball" Adderley, pianist Bill Evans, bassist Paul Chambers, and drummer Jimmy Cobb, with new band pianist Wynton Kelly replacing Evans on "Freddie Freeloader". The album was recorded at Columbia's 30th Street Studio in New York City in two sessions on March 2 and April 22, 1959.

One of those albums that somehow manages to be both the "oh you just bought you're first jazz album you newb" and "easily defensible to rank it the best jazz album ever even among hardcore listeners". I like Freddie Freeloader but So What is pretty undeniable.

I'm a little busy to give my #1 an extensive write-up, not should I have to. I called another top ten a musical security blanket. This is the ultimate version of that for me. Miles innovated with modal scales which was a big deviation from the complex chord changes in bebop. He had a who's who of musicians on board and this innovation allowed them all to shine and improvise with minimal direction from Miles. The direction he did give was key to a vision he had for the direction of jazz. Miles, Coltrane, Cannonball, Bill Evans, Paul Chambers and Jimmy Cobb. Legendary voices seamlessly working together. It's just my default #1. It's a simple listen. It's timeless. Every track is my favorite. For time constraints on a non jazz playlist Blue in Green works best.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Also, I was listening to a bit of Paul's @rockaction and was reminded of another reason I don't listen to a ton Beasties. Forgive my ignorance for not knowing which one, but one of their voices grates on me slightly as I listen to songs. I seem to just like that zone of 1 or 2 rappers/song.

ETA: I think the Beasties/DMB phenomenon was a reason I didn't like Nirvana much either. I was a freak who owned 100s of albums, but it seems most "normal" people owned about 20-25 and it was all Beasties, DMB, and Nirvana in my neck of the woods.

 

[Eephus]

45. Paul's Boutique – Beastie Boys (414 points)

Not on the album but the Paul Nice remix of "Hey Ladies" is a banger

Hey Ladies - Paul Nice Remix

Beastie Boys, Paul Nice · Hey Ladies (Remixes) · Song · 2019

open.spotify.com

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I love these music threads. This one is a biggie.

Life is busy and I have to play catch up every few days which is a bummer. The banter is the best part and I am speed reading through the posts.

It’s fascinating to see the selections and verifies I am a weirdo. Most of you would never let me pick music for a road trip. Maybe you would for the gym. I worked out listening to Savatage this morning.

"In the hall of the mountain kiiiiiiiing"

see? I told you we'd find something.

also really like the TSO version

 

[rockaction]

Also, I was listening to a bit of Paul's @rockaction and was reminded of another reason I don't listen to a ton Beasties. Forgive my ignorance for not knowing which one, but one of their voices grates on me slightly as I listen to songs. I seem to just like that zone of 1 or 2 rappers/song.

Ad Rock is the whining guy. Mike D is normal and MCA was gruff.

 

[Val Rannous]

47. 2112 – Rush (398 points)

@Val Rannous #1
@Atomic Punk #1
@zamboni #10
@Yo Mama #11
@BroncoFreak_2K3 #11
@New Binky the Doormat #17
@Mt. Man #55
@jwb #64



2112 (pronounced "twenty-one twelve") is the fourth studio album by Canadian rock band Rush, released in March 1976 by Mercury Records. It reached No. 5 in Canada and became the band's commercial breakthrough in America, peaking at No. 61.

The band was in financial hardship due to the disappointing sales of 1975's Caress of Steel, which also got an unfavorable critical reception and a decline in attendance at its shows. Mercury, their international label, considered dropping them but granted one more album following negotiations with manager Ray Danniels. Rush were pressured to deliver more commercial material but decided to continue developing its progressive rock direction they had explored on Caress of Steel and made the 20-minute futuristic science-fiction title track occupy side one of 2112 with a collection of shorter songs on side two that display their hard rock roots.

Love love love this album, and the middle finger shot at their record label. "So, you want more commercial stuff for radio? Well, listen to this!!!"

Well, I'll wait for @Atomic Punk to chime in since we're tied at #1, but my vote for the playlist song is probably obvious. Hey, it makes the playlist 20 minutes longer all by itself, but it's 20 minutes of GREATNESS!!!!

 

[rockaction]

I’m not one to defend Green Day vehemently but they’re still awfully big. There isn’t a bigger nineties band besides Pearl Jam.

This doesn't resonate with me. Off the top of my head, I think Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Metallica, U2, GNR, and Aerosmith were bigger 90s bands. I had the same reaction as @Dan Lambskin seeing that album in top 50.... seems out of place to me.

They were and are enormous for a punk band. I mean ginormous. More listeners than any of those bands by ten million. And U2 and Metallica are 80s bands, really. Aerosmith is ‘70s. GNR is also ‘80s

Oasis is the huge other 90s band and I think they have fewer listeners also. Green Day stayed big.

 

[Ilov80s]

Also, I was listening to a bit of Paul's @rockaction and was reminded of another reason I don't listen to a ton Beasties. Forgive my ignorance for not knowing which one, but one of their voices grates on me slightly as I listen to songs. I seem to just like that zone of 1 or 2 rappers/song.

ETA: I think the Beasties/DMB phenomenon was a reason I didn't like Nirvana much either. I was a freak who owned 100s of albums, but it seems most "normal" people owned about 20-25 and it was all Beasties, DMB, and Nirvana in my neck of the woods.

Is it the guy who does the opening verse of Shake Your Rump?

 

[rockaction]

Also, I was listening to a bit of Paul's @rockaction and was reminded of another reason I don't listen to a ton Beasties. Forgive my ignorance for not knowing which one, but one of their voices grates on me slightly as I listen to songs. I seem to just like that zone of 1 or 2 rappers/song.

ETA: I think the Beasties/DMB phenomenon was a reason I didn't like Nirvana much either. I was a freak who owned 100s of albums, but it seems most "normal" people owned about 20-25 and it was all Beasties, DMB, and Nirvana in my neck of the woods.

Is it the guy who does the opening verse of Shake Your Rump?

It’s Ad Rock. Gotta be. LOL. I have trouble with Ad Rock but he was by far and away their best emcee. He is married to Kathleen Hanna of Bikini Kill. Odd couple.

 

[UncleZen]

Dookie is pretty good for a pop album. It's like Britney Spears with guitar. It ranked at 50 while one of the greatest grunge albums of all time, Dirt, is not ranked is a fricken crime. Shame on all of you!

I am glad to see Paul's Boutique ranked this high.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Now that I listen closer with a nitpicking critical ear, both Ad Rock and Mike D have a bit of a higher pictched delivery, correct? It's MCA that has a bit of a deeper voice?

 

[SayChowda]

45. Paul's Boutique – Beastie Boys (414 points)

@ConstruxBoy #2
@Yo Mama #2
Jeb #8
@kupcho1 #18
@Long Ball Larry #20
@rockaction #27
@SayChowda #44
@MAC_32 #49
@Dr. Octopus #55



Paul's Boutique is the second studio album by the American hip hop group Beastie Boys, released on July 25, 1989, by Capitol Records. Produced by the Beastie Boys and the Dust Brothers, the album's composition makes extensive use of samples, drawn from a wide range of genres including funk, soul, rock, and jazz. It was recorded over two years at Matt Dike's apartment and the Record Plant in Los Angeles.

Probably on a different day this album would be a lot higher for me. It's amazing. But thinking back on when the last time I listened to it, it's really been a long time compared to others i had ranked higher.

 

[krista4]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

 

[rockaction]

Now that I listen closer with a nitpicking critical ear, both Ad Rock and Mike D have a bit of a higher pictched delivery, correct? It's MCA that has a bit of a deeper voice?

You're totally right but Ad Rock is, like, so over-the-top that he's over the moon

 

[Ilov80s]

I’m not one to defend Green Day vehemently but they’re still awfully big. There isn’t a bigger nineties band besides Pearl Jam.

This doesn't resonate with me. Off the top of my head, I think Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Metallica, U2, GNR, and Aerosmith were bigger 90s bands. I had the same reaction as @Dan Lambskin seeing that album in top 50.... seems out of place to me.

They were and are enormous for a punk band. I mean ginormous. More listeners than any of those bands by ten million. And U2 and Metallica are 80s bands, really. Aerosmith is ‘70s. GNR is also ‘80s

Yep, as a HS graduate in 2000, I feel quite well positioned to answer this question. I think what is happening is people who graduated HS in the 88-96 range missed Green Day a bit. Green Day was the post grunge band that kind of killed grunge. It appealed to a micro generation of tweens and young teens who were feeling different from their slacker, grunge gen x older siblings. Dookie was the biggest album of the year when I was in 7th grade. My dad was cool so he took me and 2 friends to see their Dookie tour concert at Cobo in Detroit. We all got the shirts. This album was as big as any album. Then American Idiot put a stamp on the Bush era while also giving us one of the last songs from a rock band to cross over into a true all ages, all types universal market. Even my dad who as I have talked about is a musician, had a recording studio in my basement, etc. who is pretty critical of bands always spoke highly of Green Day. When we first saw them live, he gave really strong praise for how full their sound was for a 3 piece band. He compared it to seeing Cream at the Grande Ballroom. He has continued to follow them, routinely impressed with their musicality, song writing and production. He is a picky guy when it comes to music and he is a true believer that Green Day is one of the last great American rock bands.

 

[rockaction]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

I'm laughing because your post is funny and not because I disagree with what you've said. That said, I do disagree with what you said. I just . . . they're in the rockaction Punk Hundred so they have to be a punk band!

No, it's their connection to Gilman St. and the East Bay and their connection to Larry Livermore and Lookout! and Mike Dirnt played with Screeching Weasel and Tre Cool was in the Lookouts and . . . they've got tons of punk credibility. They sabotaged it, but you can't change your spots if you're a leopard from birth.

 

[Ilov80s]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

I'm laughing because your post is funny and not because I disagree with what you've said. That said, I do disagree with what you said. I just . . . they're in the rockaction Punk Hundred so they have to be a punk band!

No, it's their connection to Gilman St. and the East Bay and their connection to Larry Livermore and Lookout! and Mike Dirnt played with Screeching Weasel and Tre Cool was in the Lookouts and . . . they've got tons of punk credibility. They sabotaged it, but you can't change your spots if you're a leopard from birth.

Green Day isn't a punk band the way the White Stripes aren't a garage rock band. Things start out one way and sometimes end up much bigger than anyone could have imagined .

 

[rockaction]

45. Paul's Boutique – Beastie Boys (414 points)

@ConstruxBoy #2
@Yo Mama #2
Jeb #8
@kupcho1 #18
@Long Ball Larry #20
@rockaction #27
@SayChowda #44
@MAC_32 #49
@Dr. Octopus #55



Paul's Boutique is the second studio album by the American hip hop group Beastie Boys, released on July 25, 1989, by Capitol Records. Produced by the Beastie Boys and the Dust Brothers, the album's composition makes extensive use of samples, drawn from a wide range of genres including funk, soul, rock, and jazz. It was recorded over two years at Matt Dike's apartment and the Record Plant in Los Angeles.

Probably on a different day this album would be a lot higher for me. It's amazing. But thinking back on when the last time I listened to it, it's really been a long time compared to others i had ranked higher.

Yeah, I've got about ten-twenty that I don't listen to anymore that I fired up there because I remembered how much I loved those albums.

 

[Rand al Thor]

I love these music threads. This one is a biggie.

Life is busy and I have to play catch up every few days which is a bummer. The banter is the best part and I am speed reading through the posts.

It’s fascinating to see the selections and verifies I am a weirdo. Most of you would never let me pick music for a road trip. Maybe you would for the gym. I worked out listening to Savatage this morning.

Gutter Ballet! Respect to Pinellas County's most famous band. Unless you count Bertie Higgins.

 

[SayChowda]

45. Paul's Boutique – Beastie Boys (414 points)

@ConstruxBoy #2
@Yo Mama #2
Jeb #8
@kupcho1 #18
@Long Ball Larry #20
@rockaction #27
@SayChowda #44
@MAC_32 #49
@Dr. Octopus #55



Paul's Boutique is the second studio album by the American hip hop group Beastie Boys, released on July 25, 1989, by Capitol Records. Produced by the Beastie Boys and the Dust Brothers, the album's composition makes extensive use of samples, drawn from a wide range of genres including funk, soul, rock, and jazz. It was recorded over two years at Matt Dike's apartment and the Record Plant in Los Angeles.

Probably on a different day this album would be a lot higher for me. It's amazing. But thinking back on when the last time I listened to it, it's really been a long time compared to others i had ranked higher.

Yeah, I've got about ten-twenty that I don't listen to anymore that I fired up there because I remembered how much I loved those albums.

Good call, and I really need to do that. One of the rare downsides of not having a commute anymore.

 

[rockaction]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

I'm laughing because your post is funny and not because I disagree with what you've said. That said, I do disagree with what you said. I just . . . they're in the rockaction Punk Hundred so they have to be a punk band!

No, it's their connection to Gilman St. and the East Bay and their connection to Larry Livermore and Lookout! and Mike Dirnt played with Screeching Weasel and Tre Cool was in the Lookouts and . . . they've got tons of punk credibility. They sabotaged it, but you can't change your spots if you're a leopard from birth.

Green Day isn't a punk band the way the White Stripes aren't a garage rock band. Things start out one way and sometimes end up much bigger than anyone could have imagined .

Very true. I'm amenable to ceasing to insist they're a punk band. They're not anymore. But I'm keeping "Going To Pasalacqua" on my Punk Hundred because it's on Lookout! and it's the greatest song that they played on that MTV special in Chicago that—get this—aired in prime time from a ballroom on MTV. It was huge. I was definitely a punk rocker at that point; I just didn't dress in all black or have the style trappings.

Enjoy! k4, this will be a time trip. Remember these clothes?

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

 

[KarmaPolice]

Now that I listen closer with a nitpicking critical ear, both Ad Rock and Mike D have a bit of a higher pictched delivery, correct? It's MCA that has a bit of a deeper voice?

You're totally right but Ad Rock is, like, so over-the-top that he's over the moon

You are right that it's Ad Rock that is the more frequent offender, but where I was going is I think because it's 2 in that range after a long bout of listening it wears on me slightly. Still LOVE many of the songs, but in the end I think they are more of a playlist group for me vs an album group.

That said, some of my favorite new to me songs were the few off Hot Sauce that were featured in the MAD31 countdown. I've watched the video for Make Some Noise so many times.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Speaking of high pitched nasally voices and silly lyrics, I see we had some Rush drafted today.

 

[UncleZen]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

I stated this a few post before you did. That album is pop music. I like it ok too but it does not belong this high.

 

[rockaction]

Now that I listen closer with a nitpicking critical ear, both Ad Rock and Mike D have a bit of a higher pictched delivery, correct? It's MCA that has a bit of a deeper voice?

You're totally right but Ad Rock is, like, so over-the-top that he's over the moon

You are right that it's Ad Rock that is the more frequent offender, but where I was going is I think because it's 2 in that range after a long bout of listening it wears on me slightly. Still LOVE many of the songs, but in the end I think they are more of a playlist group for me vs an album group.

That said, some of my favorite new to me songs were the few off Hot Sauce that were featured in the MAD31 countdown. I've watched the video for Make Some Noise so many times.

Oh, I get your point now. Yeah, they've got two nasally guys. I have trouble with it also—there are times that I'm just about to turn it off and I've just turned it on— but their production and music is so damn good. And Ad Rock is a very, very good emcee. Mike Diamond and MCA aren't really. Ad does some massively heavy lifting and always did. Plus, I was reading and watching something about them and somebody noted how absolutely awesome their timing and pacing of their sing/rapping was on the first album. And "Rhymin' & Stealin'" is a song that you actually have to be incredibly talented to carry that tune and they do somehow. MCA fits that track. He fits that album. He did not fit once they left the '80s but he was their spiritual leader and friend so what are they gonna do? It's not even a question what to do. He's just not a great emcee by that point.

 

[Rand al Thor]

I was a "Dookie" ranker. Maybe some people are losing sight of this being a "favorite" album draft and not the "best"? I realize that most of the songs on that album only have 3 or 4 chords and all the songs sound the same, but this album had a lot of energy and simple progressions. It was an upbeat alternative to the Seattle sound. I listened to this album biggly back in the day, and now my teen listens to it. I can still put this one on for a roadtrip and not skip a single song on it. So yeah, it made my list as one of my favorite albums. I get that Tapestry might be "better" but if I had to listen to that whole album in one sitting, it would make me unhappy.

 

[Ilov80s]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

I'm laughing because your post is funny and not because I disagree with what you've said. That said, I do disagree with what you said. I just . . . they're in the rockaction Punk Hundred so they have to be a punk band!

No, it's their connection to Gilman St. and the East Bay and their connection to Larry Livermore and Lookout! and Mike Dirnt played with Screeching Weasel and Tre Cool was in the Lookouts and . . . they've got tons of punk credibility. They sabotaged it, but you can't change your spots if you're a leopard from birth.

Green Day isn't a punk band the way the White Stripes aren't a garage rock band. Things start out one way and sometimes end up much bigger than anyone could have imagined .

Very true. I'm amenable to ceasing to insist they're a punk band. They're not anymore. But I'm keeping "Going To Pasalacqua" on my Punk Hundred because it's on Lookout! and it's the greatest song that they played on that MTV special in Chicago that—get this—aired in prime time from a ballroom on MTV. It was huge. I was definitely a punk rocker at that point; I just didn't dress in all black or have the style trappings.

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I actually intended that as a way of saying Green Day is a punk band even if they aren't. Obviously the earlier you go, the more punk their sound. But I think punk is always at their core. A "you can take the kid out of Philly but you can never take the Philly out of the kid" type thing. Plus they have always kept a certain punk mindset in how they approach the world. Their concerts might have sold out but they haven't.

I had Dookie on my list until my last cut and I feel big regrets now. There is so much I love about it. But just to isolate one thing, the drum and bass intro to Longview. It's quite odd, huh? And how it lazily bounces us to that ripping guitar chorus. ****ing rock and roll.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I was a "Dookie" ranker. Maybe some people are losing sight of this being a "favorite" album draft and not the "best"? I realize that most of the songs on that album only have 3 or 4 chords and all the songs sound the same, but this album had a lot of energy and simple progressions. It was an upbeat alternative to the Seattle sound. I listened to this album biggly back in the day, and now my teen listens to it. I can still put this one on for a roadtrip and not skip a single song on it. So yeah, it made my list as one of my favorite albums. I get that Tapestry might be "better" but if I had to listen to that whole album in one sitting, it would make me unhappy.

 

[Ilov80s]

I was a "Dookie" ranker. Maybe some people are losing sight of this being a "favorite" album draft and not the "best"? I realize that most of the songs on that album only have 3 or 4 chords and all the songs sound the same, but this album had a lot of energy and simple progressions. It was an upbeat alternative to the Seattle sound. I listened to this album biggly back in the day, and now my teen listens to it. I can still put this one on for a roadtrip and not skip a single song on it. So yeah, it made my list as one of my favorite albums. I get that Tapestry might be "better" but if I had to listen to that whole album in one sitting, it would make me unhappy.

Do not back down on Dookie. I'ts worthy.

 

[Tau837]

This is a true, start-to-finish album for me in which each song is perfect and leads into the other. When I listen to it, I hear the beginning notes of the next song play in my head as the current song is fading out.

This statement intrigued me, so I listened to Disintegration start to finish today. Then I listened to Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me start to finish. It confirmed what I initially thought, that for me KM KM KM is easily the best Cure album and is their best "start to finish every song is great" album. Sorry to potentially spotlight here...

 

[KarmaPolice]

I was a "Dookie" ranker. Maybe some people are losing sight of this being a "favorite" album draft and not the "best"? I realize that most of the songs on that album only have 3 or 4 chords and all the songs sound the same, but this album had a lot of energy and simple progressions. It was an upbeat alternative to the Seattle sound. I listened to this album biggly back in the day, and now my teen listens to it. I can still put this one on for a roadtrip and not skip a single song on it. So yeah, it made my list as one of my favorite albums. I get that Tapestry might be "better" but if I had to listen to that whole album in one sitting, it would make me unhappy.

Do not back down on Dookie. I'ts worthy.

Totally. I had it on this morning and forget how damn fun the album is. The hits still hit, and I've always loved tunes like She and Chump. Punk is still a genre that holds me at arm's length, so I am OK with this poppy version of it, I guess.

 

[Ilov80s]

I was a "Dookie" ranker. Maybe some people are losing sight of this being a "favorite" album draft and not the "best"? I realize that most of the songs on that album only have 3 or 4 chords and all the songs sound the same, but this album had a lot of energy and simple progressions. It was an upbeat alternative to the Seattle sound. I listened to this album biggly back in the day, and now my teen listens to it. I can still put this one on for a roadtrip and not skip a single song on it. So yeah, it made my list as one of my favorite albums. I get that Tapestry might be "better" but if I had to listen to that whole album in one sitting, it would make me unhappy.

Do not back down on Dookie. I'ts worthy.

Totally. I had it on this morning and forget how damn fun the album is. The hits still hit, and I've always loved tunes like She and Chump. Punk is still a genre that holds me at arm's length, so I am OK with this poppy version of it, I guess.

100%. She and Chump are as good as any of the big hits. And I am with you, I like my punk with a catchy hook to. I will never be mistaken for a true punk at heart.

 

[rockaction]

I was a "Dookie" ranker. Maybe some people are losing sight of this being a "favorite" album draft and not the "best"? I realize that most of the songs on that album only have 3 or 4 chords and all the songs sound the same, but this album had a lot of energy and simple progressions. It was an upbeat alternative to the Seattle sound. I listened to this album biggly back in the day, and now my teen listens to it. I can still put this one on for a roadtrip and not skip a single song on it. So yeah, it made my list as one of my favorite albums. I get that Tapestry might be "better" but if I had to listen to that whole album in one sitting, it would make me unhappy.

Who cracked on Dookie? I'm gonna find him and put him in the toilet in the sky! If it was me, I apologize. I still love Dookie; it just makes me think of five guys in 200 sq. ft of space or whatever the **** that five-person "suite" we had was. My God. And I was in the room with three of us. ****e. Ridiculous. Then we're the hang-out room so we have at least ten people in there nearly 24/7 and you take care of business when that's going on and I'll show you my 1.4 GPA from that year, which resulted in a resume that does not have a GPA on it and never did. Heh.

So when I say Green Day is altogether off the list yet I sit here listening to the full Chicago concert and "Welcome To Paradise" is on and I'm able to go back to listening to them my freshman year before Dookie came out because we had Smoothed Out and Kerplunk from Lookout!—well, my friend Duff did and would come around and let me dub them to cassette—whose real name was Ryan who transferred to Cornell :(

I lost so many damn friends to transferring out of the freezing-*** investment banker school. I almost did myself, and holy **** look at the time and I'm rambling!

 

[Eephus]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

Green Day is more of a punk band than the Beatles are a boy band. Musically, they've always been more from the Buzzcocks' side of the punk taxonomy than the Pistols'.

I respect them for staying close to the local punk scene. It's not unusual to see one of the band members trying their best to look inconspicuous at a dive where their friends are playing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

43. Innervisions – Stevie Wonder (419 points)

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@Yo Mama #40
@timschochet #65

Innervisions is the sixteenth studio album by American singer, songwriter, and musician Stevie Wonder, released on August 3, 1973, by Tamla, a subsidiary of Motown Records. A landmark recording of Wonder's "classic period", the album has been regarded as completing his transition from the "Little Stevie Wonder" known for romantic ballads into a more musically mature, conscious, and grown-up artist. On the album, Wonder continued to experiment with the revolutionary T.O.N.T.O. (The Original New Timbral Orchestra) synthesizer system developed by Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margouleff, and Innervisions became hugely influential on the future sound of commercial soul and black music.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Lukewarm take: Green Day is not a punk band. I will spend zero time defending this take, and also I should defer to rockaction on this anyway.

I do like Green Day just fine, but as a rock band, not a punk band. I guess at the beginning I would have considered them punk? But not for long, and they gravitated more into pop as time went by. Again, I have no evidence or desire to back this up.

I'm laughing because your post is funny and not because I disagree with what you've said. That said, I do disagree with what you said. I just . . . they're in the rockaction Punk Hundred so they have to be a punk band!

No, it's their connection to Gilman St. and the East Bay and their connection to Larry Livermore and Lookout! and Mike Dirnt played with Screeching Weasel and Tre Cool was in the Lookouts and . . . they've got tons of punk credibility. They sabotaged it, but you can't change your spots if you're a leopard from birth.

I’d call them pop punk or punk pop whichever you prefer.

 

[rockaction]

pop punk

This is what they call the genre and Green Day leads it both today and historically. Blink-182 did maybe for a few years in the aughts, but before and after it's Green Day.

 

[Eephus]

43. Innervisions – Stevie Wonder (419 points)

@Uruk-Hai #1
@krista4 #1
@Eephus #6
@Atomic Punk #8
@landrys hat #14
@Pip's Invitation #14
@Yo Mama #40
@timschochet #65

Innervisions is the sixteenth studio album by American singer, songwriter, and musician Stevie Wonder, released on August 3, 1973, by Tamla, a subsidiary of Motown Records. A landmark recording of Wonder's "classic period", the album has been regarded as completing his transition from the "Little Stevie Wonder" known for romantic ballads into a more musically mature, conscious, and grown-up artist. On the album, Wonder continued to experiment with the revolutionary T.O.N.T.O. (The Original New Timbral Orchestra) synthesizer system developed by Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margouleff, and Innervisions became hugely influential on the future sound of commercial soul and black music.

I re-listened to the five albums in Stevie's magnificent early-mid 70s run and liked Innervisions the best. YMMV.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

43. Innervisions – Stevie Wonder (419 points)

@Uruk-Hai #1
@krista4 #1
@Eephus #6
@Atomic Punk #8
@landrys hat #14
@Pip's Invitation #14
@Yo Mama #40
@timschochet #65

Innervisions is the sixteenth studio album by American singer, songwriter, and musician Stevie Wonder, released on August 3, 1973, by Tamla, a subsidiary of Motown Records. A landmark recording of Wonder's "classic period", the album has been regarded as completing his transition from the "Little Stevie Wonder" known for romantic ballads into a more musically mature, conscious, and grown-up artist. On the album, Wonder continued to experiment with the revolutionary T.O.N.T.O. (The Original New Timbral Orchestra) synthesizer system developed by Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margouleff, and Innervisions became hugely influential on the future sound of commercial soul and black music.

I re-listened to the five albums in Stevie's magnificent early-mid 70s run and liked Innervisions the best. YMMV.

It really was a remarkable run.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

i hardly ever listen to Beasties anymore. Just popped in my Pauls Boutique CD (yes, a CD kids). The album is so smooth. Not even sure there is a great song on it. Some good ones, but nothing great. It's the entire album that makes it work.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

I sort of feel out of my depth here since you guys know more about and have listened to more music and while I do like songs like Good Riddance or Brainstew I have always felt like Green Day wasn't in the same tier as a Zepplin or Clapton etc. But I also didn't run in "punk" circles and I think thir early stuff was considered punk.

 

[MAC_32]

I also find it surprising that a Green Day album is top 50. It was probably already noted that RS votes it #375 album of all time so it jumped 325 spots in our countdown. Fascinating.

I hope I wasn't the only one that didn't read any of these lists before making my own.