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Cory Booker for President (1 Viewer)
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
He needs money soon.
I’ve got nothing against Cory, but if he can’t energize Democrats in a primary - how is he going to beat Trump?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
He already has a coverage issue - if he doesn’t make the debate, he will get virtually no media coverage. I don’t think he can win the nomination either way though.
cosjobs
Footballguy
I think the factions will coalesce. He won't run off gays, minorities, conservatives/businessmen. I think most independents and maybe fence-sitting Repubs would vote for him.
I love Buttigieg, but I do not think there is any way he could win (nor do I think his has the experience/background). Sanders and Warren scare a significant portion of the population for other reasons. Biden will go down battling those three and he's too old anyway. Booker in a brokered convention makes a lot of sense. The minorities and libs stay home for Klobuchar and Bloomberg.
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Ok. I guess. I don’t see the Dems rallying for Booker. He is more likely to be out before Iowa. I also think the party and voters will back whom ever is the nominee.
As for Buttigieg what exactly is the experience you are looking for? Not sure what senate experience realty adds to the equation.
cosjobs
Footballguy
For me, I would be reluctant to elect a relatively small town mayor. I've looking for larger scale experience. The reason he won't win is because he's gay. That's an outright deal killer for way too many voters, speaking of the electorate, not me personally.
We’ll just agree to disagree.
It sounds a lot like “He’ll never get elected because he is black.”
cosjobs
Footballguy
That's what some thought in Florida about Gillum and then he lost in the general to DiSantis. I think both the 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the primary, Gwen Graham and Phil Levine, would've won in the general. I think Booker would be strong in an election vs Trump.
The General
Footballguy
The thing about Booker is he is wholly unmemorable. I have listened to him on the debates, seen him do some stuff in the Senate and I am struggling to tell you anything he has said, stands for, etc.
The only thing I remember is him trying to not bag on any of the other candidates and sort of chiding others for doing so in the debates.
The only thing I remember is him trying to not bag on any of the other candidates and sort of chiding others for doing so in the debates.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Being a governor may be better, but being in the Senate provides a lot of useful experience for a presidential candidate. Working with Congress is a big part of the job if you are doing the job correctly. His experience on the Committee on Foreign Relations is certainly useful. The Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation experience is also likely useful.
I want Buttigieg to get some legislative experience and try again in 8 years.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
This has been completely true during the campaign, but it didn't used to be true. I remember him making the national stage as Mayor of Newark.
timschochet
Footballguy
Just a quick comment on this- the nomination race will be very very very different from the two person race once a candidate has been chosen. No matter who it is, energizing Democrats will NOT be a problem. Not this year.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Booker, Buttigieg, and Klobuchar. Give me a ticket with any two out of three.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Senate experience may be good to have, but as we talk about electability, it seems to me that the most proven path to losing a Presidential election is to be a long-time Senator.
It's a pretty common theme over last couple of decades. And they always seem to make for "safe" choices in the Primary. Then they go lose to the inexperienced wildcard in the general.
Maybe just a coincidence, but it's happened an awful lot lately.
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Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
A lot of people in 2016 had no idea what Donald Trump would be like as President. Now they do.
Maybe so, but it’s not a great election strategy to say “At least I’m not the other guy!”
You have to give the people an affirmative reason for voting for you - thus far Booker has not been able to do that.
beef
Footballguy
I'd love a Buttigieg/Booker ticket. Been a big fan of Booker for a while. Comes across to me as one of these most genuine good people in all of Congress.
timschochet
Footballguy
In most elections I would agree with this. In this election I absolutely disagree. What you just wrote is the winning campaign strategy.
The main reason I am concerned about Warren and Sanders is not because their proposals are too leftist but because they have proposals. I’m dead serious about this. The less proposals the Democrat has, the less it will be about the Democrat at all, the better. The Democrats will win handily so long as the contest is an up or down vote on Donald Trump.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Before Peteyjudge, Booker was the last Democratic politician who made me stand up and take notice when he beat the Newark machine. Seemed like a faster track than a person of color had ever been on in those pre-Obama days, but the stars in his eyes clouded Booker's vision, as it has many others. For a while i admired that he re-upped&upped in Newark but his city didn't rise and his Senate opt-out became no longer a stepping-stone but a reward. NObody's offering the Veep to anyone w a Corey level of arrogance. Being the mayor of downtown Rosario is gonna hafta be enough.
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Right, and some of them might actually be (gasp) happy with the results. Your semi-regular reminder that the voting public does not mirror this forum. And Sinn is right, there's no guarantee that the Dem nominee will bring out everybody who's needed to take out Trump. Joe D. Voter might be happy with his job and bank account come the morning of 11/3/20 and if the option is gaffe-a-day Joe Biden, it might not seem worth it to stand in line for 2 hours that evening after work.
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timschochet
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Has Booker ceased taking handouts from Merck/their contemporaries? Unless and until he has, no thanks.
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
My top tier, also and I'm happy with just one. Unfortunately, I believe this is the group hurt by the Bloomberg entry (in addition to Biden).
And, to the extent anyone is paying attention to the debates, I do think Booker's almost guaranteed omission is bad optics and hurts him.
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