Creation vs. Evolution (2 Viewers)

[commisholio]

such as the ice-breathing dragons?

Those are white dragons. Fire-breathers are red. Blue dragons breathe lightning, green dragons breathe chlorine gas, and black dragons breathe acid. They're all quite dangerous.

What about the psychadelic, multicolor ones I see whenever I drink too much gin?

That's Tiamat. Don't #### with her.

Still funny.

 

[Kleck]

Dragon-bump for the Eragon crowd.

 

[Seymour Corn]

Dragon Slaying Legends

Dinosaur wasn't a word until the year 1851. We should notice at this fact that apes (aka - gorillas) were considered myths until 1861.

Every culture, however, has myths about dragons and great knights and warriors slaying them. examples:

King Nebucannezzer's ring had a god riding a dragon on it.

When Saddam Hussien rebuilt the city of Babylon and the walls of the city, there were things on the walls that they restored (they didn't draw this stuff there) that appear to look like dinosaurs.

There is a Roman mosaic of 2 long-necked dinosaurs kissing.

Ancient Chinese recipes contain ingredients such as "ground up dragon bone" and are meant seriously.

the dragon heads on Scandanavian ships, why are they there? What made them use a dragon head? What is the purpose? Where did they see the dragon head?

Psalm 148:7 - "Praise the Lord ye dragon"

The Loch Ness Monster

Champ

etc...

More evidence?

 

[Frostillicus]

I nominate this thread for "instant classic" status.

Prophetic

 

[AnonymousBob]

I missed this thread the first time around...but wow.

 

[GregR_2]

I missed this thread the first time around...but wow.

Me too.Not to hijack this to something worth discussing, but there was a great show in History Channel earlier this week that looked at various myths of monsters and how likely it is that paleontological evidence was responsible for them.Some great stuff in it, including mapping fossil sites from ancient Roman and Greek accounts. Looking at some ancient documented fossil exposures. One was in the Greek islands and was a mammoth head, that to someone who hasn't seen an elephant, doesn't know the eyes are on the side and the hole in the middle of the skull is where the trunk connects, would likely interpret that hole to be of a single eye which could likely be were the cyclops legend comes from.Didn't see the whole show, but there was also a really good look at griffons and the area in Asia where the stories of them being guardians of gold originated. There's a beaked dinosaur whose remains are found extensively through the region whose remains could be a dead ringer for a griffon.

 

[Dungeon Master]

such as the ice-breathing dragons?

Those are white dragons. Fire-breathers are red. Blue dragons breathe lightning, green dragons breathe chlorine gas, and black dragons breathe acid. They're all quite dangerous.

 

[cstu]

such as the ice-breathing dragons?

Those are white dragons. Fire-breathers are red. Blue dragons breathe lightning, green dragons breathe chlorine gas, and black dragons breathe acid. They're all quite dangerous.

Laugh all you want but those ice-breathing dragons could fix global warming overnight. Al Gore has been researching the possibilities for years.

 

[CBusAlex]

This is a trend that has begun.  It will not be stopped.  There may be new religions that bridge the gap

Oh, please don't let it be Scientology. Or (God forbid) the Mormons!

Wow, this may have been my very first post at FBG.I'm a little disappointed.

 

[Charlie Harper]

This thread has made for a great Friday reading. God bless Larry_Boy and his dragons.

 

[shining path]

This is a trend that has begun.  It will not be stopped.  There may be new religions that bridge the gap

Oh, please don't let it be Scientology. Or (God forbid) the Mormons!

Wow, this may have been my very first post at FBG.I'm a little disappointed.

I think you announced your presence with authoritah.

 

[ElGatoLoco]

This is a trend that has begun.  It will not be stopped.  There may be new religions that bridge the gap

Oh, please don't let it be Scientology. Or (God forbid) the Mormons!

Wow, this may have been my very first post at FBG.I'm a little disappointed.

Mormons

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

This thread is strangely reminiscent of the Blue Yoda thread from theForce.net's message boards.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Still a classic.

 

[DoubleG]

What about the psychadelic, multicolor ones I see whenever I drink too much gin?

That's Tiamat. Don't #### with her.

All hail the master. Smoo is the D&D foshizzle.

 

[LHUCKS]

Still a classic.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Great bump.

Larry Boy> Any updates?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

 

[mr roboto]

Did this use to be an emoticon?

:rotflmao:

 

[fatness]

we'll get there...

Are we there yet?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Too much good material in this thread. Can it get a sticky?

Lol at ghost of No. 16 past.

 

[Monsieur Meursault]

Too much good material in this thread. Can it get a sticky?

Lol at ghost of No. 16 past.

And that post was possibly pre-Coralyssa.

 

[firstseason1988]

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>The Ark</span>

Noah's ark was actually bigger than we currently think it was. The Bible says it is cubits big, 300 x 50 x 30 to be exact. The general thought behind cubits is that they are 18 inches long, because that is what modern cubits are. The problem with that, however, is that when Moses wrote Genesis, a cubit was the length from elbow to wrist (hand?), which could have been considerably longer. IN fact, a Royal Egyptian Cubit is 20.6 inches, not 18.

So, according to popular theory, the ark was:

450' x 75' x 45' = 1518750 square feet

But, using Egyptian measurements, they are:

515' x 85.833' x 51.5' = 2276505.7425

a total increase of 65' x 10.833' x 6.5' or 757755.7425 square feet more... It was 50% bigger than we currently think it was.

Now, let's look at how animals could fit in there...

the standard animal's size is a sheep. All animals, average, = sheep...

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH512_2.html

So, 250 sheep can fit in a railroad car...

Let's assume there are 20,000 different kinds of animals that need to go in pairs on the ark... That means that we need to have 160 railroad cars worth of space on the ark.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

with a 18 inch cubit, the ark is as big as 569 railroad cars... lets take that number (even though I showed before that the real ark is 50% bigger than the average railroad car), that means that the ark had 409 railroad cars worth of space left on it if the animals were in it like they are on railroads... They had MORE than enough room on the ark for all the animals... Animals could have 4 or 5 times more space ont he ark than they get currently on railroad cars...

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

Therefore the ark was totally plausible...

This shows nothing but how it's not possible. Based on your assumption, Noah got 20,000 pairs of animals and got them to live, eat, drink in harmony shoulder to shoulder.

 

[DoubleG]

This shows nothing but how it's not possible. Based on your assumption, Noah got 20,000 pairs of animals and got them to live, eat, drink in harmony shoulder to shoulder.

Somebody here has never seen a Disney movie.

 

[Monsieur Meursault]

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>The Ark</span>

Noah's ark was actually bigger than we currently think it was. The Bible says it is cubits big, 300 x 50 x 30 to be exact. The general thought behind cubits is that they are 18 inches long, because that is what modern cubits are. The problem with that, however, is that when Moses wrote Genesis, a cubit was the length from elbow to wrist (hand?), which could have been considerably longer. IN fact, a Royal Egyptian Cubit is 20.6 inches, not 18.

So, according to popular theory, the ark was:

450' x 75' x 45' = 1518750 square feet

But, using Egyptian measurements, they are:

515' x 85.833' x 51.5' = 2276505.7425

a total increase of 65' x 10.833' x 6.5' or 757755.7425 square feet more... It was 50% bigger than we currently think it was.

Now, let's look at how animals could fit in there...

the standard animal's size is a sheep. All animals, average, = sheep...

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH512_2.html

So, 250 sheep can fit in a railroad car...

Let's assume there are 20,000 different kinds of animals that need to go in pairs on the ark... That means that we need to have 160 railroad cars worth of space on the ark.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

with a 18 inch cubit, the ark is as big as 569 railroad cars... lets take that number (even though I showed before that the real ark is 50% bigger than the average railroad car), that means that the ark had 409 railroad cars worth of space left on it if the animals were in it like they are on railroads... They had MORE than enough room on the ark for all the animals... Animals could have 4 or 5 times more space ont he ark than they get currently on railroad cars...

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

Therefore the ark was totally plausible...

This shows nothing but how it's not possible. Based on your assumption, Noah got 20,000 pairs of animals and got them to live, eat, drink in harmony shoulder to shoulder.

It's funny how what is never explained or accounted for is the amount of fecal matter, urine, illness, disease, birth and death that would have been inevitable in the ark story.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>The Ark</span>

Noah's ark was actually bigger than we currently think it was. The Bible says it is cubits big, 300 x 50 x 30 to be exact. The general thought behind cubits is that they are 18 inches long, because that is what modern cubits are. The problem with that, however, is that when Moses wrote Genesis, a cubit was the length from elbow to wrist (hand?), which could have been considerably longer. IN fact, a Royal Egyptian Cubit is 20.6 inches, not 18.

So, according to popular theory, the ark was:

450' x 75' x 45' = 1518750 square feet

But, using Egyptian measurements, they are:

515' x 85.833' x 51.5' = 2276505.7425

a total increase of 65' x 10.833' x 6.5' or 757755.7425 square feet more... It was 50% bigger than we currently think it was.

Now, let's look at how animals could fit in there...

the standard animal's size is a sheep. All animals, average, = sheep...

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH512_2.html

So, 250 sheep can fit in a railroad car...

Let's assume there are 20,000 different kinds of animals that need to go in pairs on the ark... That means that we need to have 160 railroad cars worth of space on the ark.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

with a 18 inch cubit, the ark is as big as 569 railroad cars... lets take that number (even though I showed before that the real ark is 50% bigger than the average railroad car), that means that the ark had 409 railroad cars worth of space left on it if the animals were in it like they are on railroads... They had MORE than enough room on the ark for all the animals... Animals could have 4 or 5 times more space ont he ark than they get currently on railroad cars...

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

Therefore the ark was totally plausible...

This shows nothing but how it's not possible. Based on your assumption, Noah got 20,000 pairs of animals and got them to live, eat, drink in harmony shoulder to shoulder.

It's funny how what is never explained or accounted for is the amount of fecal matter, urine, illness, disease, birth and death that would have been inevitable in the ark story.

God obviously took care of them. He made them immune to disease and able to fast for 370 days (or how ever long it was).

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Couldn't god have just recreated all the animal instead of this whole ark deal?

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>The Ark</span>

Noah's ark was actually bigger than we currently think it was. The Bible says it is cubits big, 300 x 50 x 30 to be exact. The general thought behind cubits is that they are 18 inches long, because that is what modern cubits are. The problem with that, however, is that when Moses wrote Genesis, a cubit was the length from elbow to wrist (hand?), which could have been considerably longer. IN fact, a Royal Egyptian Cubit is 20.6 inches, not 18.

So, according to popular theory, the ark was:

450' x 75' x 45' = 1518750 square feet

But, using Egyptian measurements, they are:

515' x 85.833' x 51.5' = 2276505.7425

a total increase of 65' x 10.833' x 6.5' or 757755.7425 square feet more... It was 50% bigger than we currently think it was.

Now, let's look at how animals could fit in there...

the standard animal's size is a sheep. All animals, average, = sheep...

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH512_2.html

So, 250 sheep can fit in a railroad car...

Let's assume there are 20,000 different kinds of animals that need to go in pairs on the ark... That means that we need to have 160 railroad cars worth of space on the ark.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

with a 18 inch cubit, the ark is as big as 569 railroad cars... lets take that number (even though I showed before that the real ark is 50% bigger than the average railroad car), that means that the ark had 409 railroad cars worth of space left on it if the animals were in it like they are on railroads... They had MORE than enough room on the ark for all the animals... Animals could have 4 or 5 times more space ont he ark than they get currently on railroad cars...

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

Therefore the ark was totally plausible...

Maybe the best post in the history of the interwebs.

 

[cstu]

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gazelle "Hey, what's up Lion? Glad that boat ride is over."Lion "No kidding. I'm so hungry I could eat meat."Gazelle

 

[Mister Martie]

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>The Ark</span>

Noah's ark was actually bigger than we currently think it was. The Bible says it is cubits big, 300 x 50 x 30 to be exact. The general thought behind cubits is that they are 18 inches long, because that is what modern cubits are. The problem with that, however, is that when Moses wrote Genesis, a cubit was the length from elbow to wrist (hand?), which could have been considerably longer. IN fact, a Royal Egyptian Cubit is 20.6 inches, not 18.

So, according to popular theory, the ark was:

450' x 75' x 45' = 1518750 square feet

But, using Egyptian measurements, they are:

515' x 85.833' x 51.5' = 2276505.7425

a total increase of 65' x 10.833' x 6.5' or 757755.7425 square feet more... It was 50% bigger than we currently think it was.

Now, let's look at how animals could fit in there...

the standard animal's size is a sheep. All animals, average, = sheep...

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH512_2.html

So, 250 sheep can fit in a railroad car...

Let's assume there are 20,000 different kinds of animals that need to go in pairs on the ark... That means that we need to have 160 railroad cars worth of space on the ark.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

with a 18 inch cubit, the ark is as big as 569 railroad cars... lets take that number (even though I showed before that the real ark is 50% bigger than the average railroad car), that means that the ark had 409 railroad cars worth of space left on it if the animals were in it like they are on railroads... They had MORE than enough room on the ark for all the animals... Animals could have 4 or 5 times more space ont he ark than they get currently on railroad cars...

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

Therefore the ark was totally plausible...

This shows nothing but how it's not possible. Based on your assumption, Noah got 20,000 pairs of animals and got them to live, eat, drink in harmony shoulder to shoulder.

It's funny how what is never explained or accounted for is the amount of fecal matter, urine, illness, disease, birth and death that would have been inevitable in the ark story.

Yeah, THAT'S the real hole in this theory.

 

[DoubleG]

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood.

Gazelle "Hey, what's up Lion? Glad that boat ride is over."Lion "No kidding. I'm so hungry I could eat meat."Gazelle

Not yet!!! Let me go over and #### that other gazelle first, otherwise we'll be extinct and YOU will starve! Idiot lion.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood. Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

How long after the did it take for animals to taste the flesh?

 

[Clifford]

OK. Now I'm thinking Larry is just an alias trying to make creationists look like morons. WTF do dragons have to do with anything?

they don't need his help

 

[DoubleG]

Also, animals didn't eat meat until after the flood. Gen 9:2-3: "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."

How long after the did it take for animals to taste the flesh?

When a pig was struck be lightening. Bacon = game changer.

 

[Clifford]

Surely this has been posted already:

part 1:

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Surely this has been posted alreadyart 1:http://youtu.be/j_BzWUuZN5wpart 2:http://youtu.be/XLr5vl-n0Bo

That's great.

 

[mr roboto]

Did this use to be an emoticon?:rotflmao:

Anyone?

 

[DoubleG]

OK. Now I'm thinking Larry is just an alias trying to make creationists look like morons. WTF do dragons have to do with anything?

they don't need his help

Easy. There are countless numbers of highly educated and intelligent people that call themselves "creationsists". Creationism and Biblical fundamentalism (especially those of literlist bent) are two very different things.

 

[[icon]]

:dragons:

 

[Psychopav]

OK. Now I'm thinking Larry is just an alias trying to make creationists look like morons. WTF do dragons have to do with anything?

they don't need his help

Easy. There are countless numbers of highly educated and intelligent people that call themselves "creationsists". Creationism and Biblical fundamentalism (especially those of literlist bent) are two very different things.

OK, now you're totally wasting time over here.Listen, we're going to start a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon themed WW game over at the other message board. What do you say, are you ready to play some werewolf online?

 

[joffer]

First time reader

 

[DoubleG]

OK. Now I'm thinking Larry is just an alias trying to make creationists look like morons. WTF do dragons have to do with anything?

they don't need his help

Easy. There are countless numbers of highly educated and intelligent people that call themselves "creationsists". Creationism and Biblical fundamentalism (especially those of literlist bent) are two very different things.

OK, now you're totally wasting time over here.Listen, we're going to start a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon themed WW game over at the other message board. What do you say, are you ready to play some werewolf online?

Yep, *sigh* I guess you're right. No - no WW, I'll just head to the SP for a bit. At least those guys admit when they completely wrong on something.

 

[matuski]

Wow, I found one of my early aliai in this thread.

 

[matuski]

OK. Now I'm thinking Larry is just an alias trying to make creationists look like morons. WTF do dragons have to do with anything?

they don't need his help

Easy. There are countless numbers of highly educated and intelligent people that call themselves "creationsists". Creationism and Biblical fundamentalism (especially those of literlist bent) are two very different things.

So some Creationists believe God not-quite-literally created the world?

 

[Psychopav]

OK. Now I'm thinking Larry is just an alias trying to make creationists look like morons. WTF do dragons have to do with anything?

they don't need his help

Easy. There are countless numbers of highly educated and intelligent people that call themselves "creationsists". Creationism and Biblical fundamentalism (especially those of literlist bent) are two very different things.

OK, now you're totally wasting time over here.Listen, we're going to start a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon themed WW game over at the other message board. What do you say, are you ready to play some werewolf online?

Yep, *sigh* I guess you're right. No - no WW, I'll just head to the SP for a bit. At least those guys admit when they completely wrong on something.

Vote DoubleGSee how easy that is?

 

[(HULK)]

Double G should play werewoofs imo.

Whatever happened to LarryBoy anyways?

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Double G should play werewoofs imo.Whatever happened to LarryBoy anyways?

He's still here. Not a fan of Obama.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

on how a few crazy religious views can set the technological progress of a whole empire back by a thousand years.

 

[matuski]

thank you

 

[CowboysFromHell]

He's a little difficult to watch at times, sort of rambling and stumbling a bit, but the overall point is very intriguing.