We've all been talking about Jacksonville here. But I'm hearing it's a done deal now. TOTALLY unconfirmed at this point though. You guys hearing anythng?
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Culpepper to Jags? (1 Viewer)
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Ron_Mexico
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ImTheScientist
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yesno
source?
Purpulhippo999
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Just a reader emailing me. Totally unconfirmed. J
Just in from Rotoworld . . .
Daunte Culpepper says he will not agree to be traded by the Dolphins.
"I definitely expect to be released," Culpepper said after Friday's minicamp practice, out of which he was escorted by team security. "I will not agree to any trade. If I'm traded, ultimately my contract has to be restructured and I will not restructure it." The Dolphins reportedly met Friday to tell Culpepper in front of the whole team that he could no longer practice in 11-on-11 drills. Jun. 8 - 2:42 pm et
Source: Miami Herald
Daunte Culpepper says he will not agree to be traded by the Dolphins.
"I definitely expect to be released," Culpepper said after Friday's minicamp practice, out of which he was escorted by team security. "I will not agree to any trade. If I'm traded, ultimately my contract has to be restructured and I will not restructure it." The Dolphins reportedly met Friday to tell Culpepper in front of the whole team that he could no longer practice in 11-on-11 drills. Jun. 8 - 2:42 pm et
Source: Miami Herald
Eli2Shockey
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as an unfortunate dynasty owner, this is not a place I'd like to see him go.
David Yudkin
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I'm making some calls . . . will report back shortly.
Yenrub
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If is traded to Jacksonville I don’t think he would see the field much. At least in the 1st half of the season.
He supposedly isn’t healthy right now. The Jags have decent options in Leftwhich and Garrard. Seems like this move would give the Jags more options for next year. Lefty is a free agent isn’t he?
He supposedly isn’t healthy right now. The Jags have decent options in Leftwhich and Garrard. Seems like this move would give the Jags more options for next year. Lefty is a free agent isn’t he?
David Yudkin
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I spoke with a contact at WJXX-TV and First Coast News who got on the phone with his contacts in the Jags' front office.
The official word from the team is that not only is a trade NOT imminent but they currently are not even engaged in trade talks with the Dolphins. So a deal does not appear to have been completed and unless they are completely stonewalling it does not appear one is coming in the near future.
The official word from the team is that not only is a trade NOT imminent but they currently are not even engaged in trade talks with the Dolphins. So a deal does not appear to have been completed and unless they are completely stonewalling it does not appear one is coming in the near future.
Idiot Savant
What, me worry?
Per Rotoworld just a little bit ago, FWIW:
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Daunte Culpepper-QB- Dolphins Jun. 8 - 3:39 pm et Mike Dempsey at 1010 XL Radio in Jacksonville reports that the Jaguars and Daunte Culpepper spoke Thursday night about possibly restructuring his contract.At some point during the process, it appears that Culpepper decided Jacksonville would not be the best fit for him and decided not to restructure his deal. He is now demanding his release. A failure to negotiate will probably kill any deal to the Jaguars. One has to think Culpepper has another team lined up.ILUVBEER99
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I guess since Lefty is a FA next year this wouldn't be too off the wall, but unless they can get C-Pepp very cheap it probably won't happen.
A major part of Culpepper's game was being able to run, without that he's a pretty below average QB.
A major part of Culpepper's game was being able to run, without that he's a pretty below average QB.
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Mike Dempsey at 1010 XL Radio in Jacksonville reports that the Jaguars and Daunte Culpepper spoke Thursday night about possibly restructuring his contract.
At some point during the process, it appears that Culpepper decided Jacksonville would not be the best fit for him and decided not to restructure his deal. He is now demanding his release. A failure to negotiate will probably kill any deal to the Jaguars. One has to think Culpepper has another team lined up. Jun. 8 - 3:39 pm et
Mike Dempsey at 1010 XL Radio in Jacksonville reports that the Jaguars and Daunte Culpepper spoke Thursday night about possibly restructuring his contract.
At some point during the process, it appears that Culpepper decided Jacksonville would not be the best fit for him and decided not to restructure his deal. He is now demanding his release. A failure to negotiate will probably kill any deal to the Jaguars. One has to think Culpepper has another team lined up. Jun. 8 - 3:39 pm et
Carter_Can_Fly
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Wow, Culpepper has really just fallen as a player in the NFL.
1) Minny- Does not view them as their QB for the future.
2) Miami- Will take him and start him.
3) Oh wait -replaced in Miami (due to injury and poor play) by J. Harrighnton.
4) Rehabs- hoping to walk into camp as a starter.
5) Replaced- by T. Green who will now groom the rookie Beck
6) Doesen't know what to do next- perhaps ask for trade, and walking papers.
7) Oh wait- realizes he is not worth much anymore as he is 30 years old and has played a grand total of 11 games in the past 2 years and thrown for 8 TD's to 15 INT's.
8) Daunte, you just may have to assume the role of back up QB my friend
1) Minny- Does not view them as their QB for the future.
2) Miami- Will take him and start him.
3) Oh wait -replaced in Miami (due to injury and poor play) by J. Harrighnton.
4) Rehabs- hoping to walk into camp as a starter.
5) Replaced- by T. Green who will now groom the rookie Beck
6) Doesen't know what to do next- perhaps ask for trade, and walking papers.
7) Oh wait- realizes he is not worth much anymore as he is 30 years old and has played a grand total of 11 games in the past 2 years and thrown for 8 TD's to 15 INT's.
8) Daunte, you just may have to assume the role of back up QB my friend
Carter_Can_Fly
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Buddy Ball 2K3
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He is going to be in a Ravens uniform by next week.
At this point why not pay him to sit around? Not like the Fins have many great QBs behind Green. Have CPepp come and practice, and if you need him he's ready.I for one am getting pretty sick of demands by players that are making great $ and/or injured looking for great $Don't see what leverage Culpepper has here.
Yitbos69
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They are not keeping him because Trent does not want competition for the starting role. CPeps leverage is that to trade him he would have to re-do his contract and he is not going to do that.
Agreed Carter.Who was the #1 ranked Fantasy QB in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004? Our man Daunte. Interesting.Wow, Culpepper has really just fallen as a player in the NFL.
1) Minny- Does not view them as their QB for the future.
2) Miami- Will take him and start him.
3) Oh wait -replaced in Miami (due to injury and poor play) by J. Harrighnton.
4) Rehabs- hoping to walk into camp as a starter.
5) Replaced- by T. Green who will now groom the rookie Beck
6) Doesen't know what to do next- perhaps ask for trade, and walking papers.
7) Oh wait- realizes he is not worth much anymore as he is 30 years old and has played a grand total of 11 games in the past 2 years and thrown for 8 TD's to 15 INT's.
8) Daunte, you just may have to assume the role of back up QB my friend
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/CulpDa00-2.php
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ILUVBEER99
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Please god no. I guess if it happens at least the NFL draft will be interesting getting to pick top 3 every year.
Yitbos69
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Plus the Pack already has a QB that throws way too many INT's
pretender
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This one makes sense to me - not sure it will happen by next week but here is where I think he ends up. Back-up for McNair and then if he is ever going to get back to form after a year - next year could be the starter in Baltimore. My 2 cents 
The Houston Stallions
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That does make a lot of sense. Also Cleveland or Oakland if he can and wants to play this season. I'm hoping not to the Ravens sence I made a trade that included me getting McNair and Boller to back up Kitna.
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benson_will_lead_the_way
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What is his current contract?
I think the Jags are a great fit.
Young nucleus of offensive weapons (Drew, Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, Ernest Wilford, Mike Walker, Marcedes Lewis) a good offensive line, and lots of defensive talent.
All they are lacking is a QB...I would argue that is the first team I would want to go to as a QB....over an extended period of time.
I think the Jags are a great fit.
Young nucleus of offensive weapons (Drew, Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, Ernest Wilford, Mike Walker, Marcedes Lewis) a good offensive line, and lots of defensive talent.
All they are lacking is a QB...I would argue that is the first team I would want to go to as a QB....over an extended period of time.
duaneok66
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benson, you're a smart guy, but I have to disagree . . .the receving corps is mediocre (at best) . . . one reason Taylor and MJD tore it up is because they weren't effective passing the ball as an aside, for JAX to get better, they have to throw more and run less . . .
mozzy84
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he started it all by demanding a raise after he shredded his knee, he would probably still be in mn otherwise imo..Wow, Culpepper has really just fallen as a player in the NFL.1) Minny- Does not view them as their QB for the future.2) Miami- Will take him and start him.3) Oh wait -replaced in Miami (due to injury and poor play) by J. Harrighnton.4) Rehabs- hoping to walk into camp as a starter.5) Replaced- by T. Green who will now groom the rookie Beck6) Doesen't know what to do next- perhaps ask for trade, and walking papers.7) Oh wait- realizes he is not worth much anymore as he is 30 years old and has played a grand total of 11 games in the past 2 years and thrown for 8 TD's to 15 INT's.8) Daunte, you just may have to assume the role of back up QB my friend
duaneok66
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quarterbacks today . . .he started it all by demanding a raise after he shredded his knee, he would probably still be in mn otherwise imo..Wow, Culpepper has really just fallen as a player in the NFL.1) Minny- Does not view them as their QB for the future.2) Miami- Will take him and start him.3) Oh wait -replaced in Miami (due to injury and poor play) by J. Harrighnton.4) Rehabs- hoping to walk into camp as a starter.5) Replaced- by T. Green who will now groom the rookie Beck6) Doesen't know what to do next- perhaps ask for trade, and walking papers.7) Oh wait- realizes he is not worth much anymore as he is 30 years old and has played a grand total of 11 games in the past 2 years and thrown for 8 TD's to 15 INT's.8) Daunte, you just may have to assume the role of back up QB my friend
Jeff Pasquino
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I'm starting to warm to this - it makes sense to Baltimore, but I don't know if it makes sense to Daunte.That's the issue - can he stomach the fact that he's a true #2 this year and will have to work to be a #1 next year?Baltimore in 2008 would be a very nice fit. Boller's gone and all that's left is Drew Olsen and Troy Smith. Even if they like both, neither will ever be as good as Daunte once was, IMHO. I just checked - the Ravens are roughly about $5.8M under the cap, so they have room to add Culpepper in an interesting structured contract.They may even start shopping Boller immediately - as he actually could have some value down the road with another franchise.That does make a lot of sense. Also Cleveland or Oakland if he can and wants to play this season. I'm hoping not to the Ravens sence I made a trade that included me getting McNair and Boller to back up Kitna.This one makes sense to me - not sure it will happen by next week but here is where I think he ends up. Back-up for McNair and then if he is ever going to get back to form after a year - next year could be the starter in Baltimore. My 2 cents
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LaRon Landry's Laundry
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Nope, if he's released by Miami any team is free to sign him to whatever contract they can get him to sign. His old contract would be history.derek19 said:
David Yudkin
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IIRC, if Culpepper would be eligible to go on waivers, teams would have 48 hours to make a waiver claim. The team with the highest claim would be the one he would be awarded to. I believe the pecking order is the same as the most recent draft (based on worst to best record).
However, I am not sure what the rules are for placing a player on waivers, what time of year it has to be, how many years of service the player has to have, etc.
However, I am not sure what the rules are for placing a player on waivers, what time of year it has to be, how many years of service the player has to have, etc.
stanmarino13
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if im not mistaken Cpepp is too old or played too many seasons to go through waivers
Yitbos69
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IIRC if you pick a player on waivers you pick up their contract. I don't think any teams want to do that.
Drunken Cowboy
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The Phins don't want him and have said he won't be there. His leverage to be cut is that he won't redo his deal if he is traded. If I were him, I would do this even if they wanted to trade me to the team I wanted to go to. Screw the Phins. What does he owe them? They tried to rush him back from injury and are now getting rid of him in less than one year.softball said:
David Yudkin
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This is mostly true. Depending upon the date at the release, the team cutting the player has to eat some of the contract and the team claiming him will take on the rest. Here is an article explaining how the waiver process worked. (I know there was talk of amending the rules some last year but I don't remember if it went through or not.)
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I don't see him as a starter right now
He needs to sign a one year deal and re-prove himself on the field.
IIRC from the McNair stuff, the Dolphins just gave him total control. He has a right to work if he's under contract and healthy.(and not suspended of course)
If he doesn't have grand visiions then he should replace Testaverde in NE or bump Sorgi out and try and get a shot at a ring.
Nothing the Bears have done with their QBs in recent years leads me to think it would be a good move for him. They're utter chaos + confusion there and he needs a stable environment.
Minny's too obvious.
KC, I don't like Huard or Croyle as a full time starter but Huard reminds me of Reich and Rutledge(great backups from years ago)
If he wants to make a statement, the best place is probably to go beat out Losman for the Bills job. Kelly took the team on his back and turned them into a winner and they adore him. Losman is just OK and not the star type IMO. Daunte of old could pull this off.
He needs to sign a one year deal and re-prove himself on the field.
IIRC from the McNair stuff, the Dolphins just gave him total control. He has a right to work if he's under contract and healthy.(and not suspended of course)
If he doesn't have grand visiions then he should replace Testaverde in NE or bump Sorgi out and try and get a shot at a ring.
Nothing the Bears have done with their QBs in recent years leads me to think it would be a good move for him. They're utter chaos + confusion there and he needs a stable environment.
Minny's too obvious.
KC, I don't like Huard or Croyle as a full time starter but Huard reminds me of Reich and Rutledge(great backups from years ago)
If he wants to make a statement, the best place is probably to go beat out Losman for the Bills job. Kelly took the team on his back and turned them into a winner and they adore him. Losman is just OK and not the star type IMO. Daunte of old could pull this off.
Wadsworth
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It's not so much that the Jags don't like him, it's that he's a FA after this season. If Leftwich plays poorly or gets hurts he'll not be resigned and having C-pep already on roster and knowing the system could be nice. If Leftwich plays well, he might not want to return to Jacksonville if he has other high profile, high paying options. Jacksonville has the smallest fan base, smallest market, and a lot of fans that have been downright nasty towards Leftwich since he was drafted to replace Brunell. I could totally see Byron having a big year and then moving on. So there are scenerios that have Leftwich leaving no matter what after this season, which means you better have a back up plan.EBF said:
