Culpepper (1 Viewer)

[gheemony]

I have not followed this situation closely, but I do read the rumors of Trent Green or David Carr to Miami. Would these moves be as insurance if Culpepper is not healthy or would they be to replace Culpepper as stater? The new coach and offense certainly add to the intrigue.

I'd love to hear the the Sharks' insight into (1) how healthy is Culpepper; (2) how will Culpepper perform if healthy (though not back to the same pre-injury skill level); and (3) the situation in Miami (is the new regime backing Culpepper or not).

 

[twistd]

I have not followed this situation closely, but I do read the rumors of Trent Green or David Carr to Miami. Would these moves be as insurance if Culpepper is not healthy or would they be to replace Culpepper as stater? The new coach and offense certainly add to the intrigue.I'd love to hear the the Sharks' insight into (1) how healthy is Culpepper; (2) how will Culpepper perform if healthy (though not back to the same pre-injury skill level); and (3) the situation in Miami (is the new regime backing Culpepper or not).

My biggest question is will Culpepper ever have the mobility he had before? He doesn't seem to be a very good pocket passer. If he loses the scrambling threat, then he is forced to be a pocket passer. And how much was he bolstered by having Randy Moss all those years in Minnesota? He certainly didn't look good either at the end in Vikingland, or early in the season last year.

 

[code]

If they picked up a Harrington replacement I'd feel better, but talk of Trent Green in MIA is not good...I've also heard talk the Culpepper was Saban's guy and may not be as popular with the new staff...

 

[nygiants56]

If they picked up a Harrington replacement I'd feel better, but talk of Trent Green in MIA is not good...I've also heard talk the Culpepper was Saban's guy and may not be as popular with the new staff...

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

 

[David Yudkin]

Word on the street is that Culpepper will get cut should the Phins acquire Green. There's speculation that potentially Culpepper could move on to Oakland.

 

[Mister CIA]

My medical knowledge is null, but I did see the play where Daunte's knee was shredded. His injury was severe, to say the least, and it would not surprise me that he could not ever return to form; especially so in light of his weight, and despite advances in the medical field.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Word on the street is that Culpepper will get cut should the Phins acquire Green. There's speculation that potentially Culpepper could move on to Oakland.

I guess the knee is real bad, but unless they feel he won't play this year cutting Culpepper would be a mistake IMO. he can play the position and even if he is less mobile than before but more mobile than last year, he can be an effective QB. What exacerbated the issue early in the year was the Miami OL was a jail break every play. As the year went on the OL got better.I think Daunte can still be a good QB as long as he has some mobility. I am trying to think of a good example of "some mobility" but can only think of Roethlisberger. He doesn't have to be the Culpy of old, but if he has the scrambling of Peyton than I do not think he will be that effective.I think signing Green is a bad move for a team looking to rebuild. Carr would make more sense, but I thought the team felt pretty good with Lemon?

 

[fsufan]

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.

When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.

And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

How have Moss's #s been without Culpepper

 

[Tag]

(KFFL) The Associated Press reports the Miami Dolphins expect QB Daunte Culpepper (knee) to attend the team's quarterback schools and minicamps, which start next month.

Im not opposed to the Dolphins bringing in another QB like Trent Green or David Carr for insurance in case Cpep isnt ready to start the season. With having 2 years off I would assume that is enough time to get healthy and all they have right now is Cleo Lemon behind him. It would make sense for the Phins to bring in another QB.

 

[David Yudkin]

From Adam Schefter

MORE TRADE TALKS ...

As soon as one quarterback domino falls -- Matt Schaub to Houston -- others are sure to follow.

Next up are Trent Green, and David Carr, and the forgotten Daunte Culpepper.

Only Culpepper cannot be discounted, unfortunately for the Dolphins.

His salary-cap figure for the coming season is scheduled to be $6.9 million, including a $5.5 million base salary.

And just as Houston cannot carry two high-priced quarterbacks in Schaub and Carr, Miami cannot carry two high-priced quarterbacks.

Other teams expect Houston to release Carr any day now, knowing the Texans already have traded for one high-priced starting quarterback and cannot and do not want to pay another.

Once Miami lands another quarterback -- and Green has the pole position -- then it is expected to act on Culpepper, possibly releasing the quarterback it acquired for a second-round pick only one year ago.

Should Miami release Culpepper, it will be hit with a salary-cap charge of $5.6 million -- but Culpepper's $5.5 million base salary will come off the books.

The idea of cutting Culpepper sounds preposterous, but remember this: new Dolphins coach Cam Cameron did not trade for the former Vikings quarterback. He has no allegiances to him. He wants his players for his system.

Cameron did coach Green in Washington with the Redskins for two seasons. Cameron also was a head coach at Indiana, the same school Green once quarterbacked. Cameron and Green know each other well, like each other plenty, and would welcome the chance to work together again.

The greater intrigue is where Culpepper might land. And that brings us back to the game of dominos.

Schaub is in Houston, Green seems destined to be a Dolphin, and that would leave Carr and Culpepper for the Vikings and Raiders, two teams still seeking to add a veteran quarterback.

The Vikings would be intrigued with Carr as long as they did not have to surrender any compensation to get him. Soon enough, they won't.

And should Carr surface with a Vikings team that has a better offensive line than the Raiders -- something he needs to succeed -- that could leave Culpepper for the Raiders.

The Raiders were intrigued with Culpepper last offseason before he was dealt to Miami. Now there is a chance they might be able to land him without any compensation.

He could be the perfect bridge, the quarterback to play until the Raiders deem potential No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell ready to take the field.

And just imagine this unlikely possibility: Oakland decides not to trade disgruntled wide receiver Randy Moss. And the Raiders do land Culpepper. It would be, once again, Culpepper to Moss.

 

[Boston]

Miami is somewhat confusing. This is a team that's nothing special. They have a quality D but most of the main pieces are not getting any younger. Offensively as long as that O line stays mediocre that unit is in trouble regardless of who's at QB. IMO this team needs to get younger (the Wanny years really gutted this team) but they really don't seem to be heading in that direction. They spent big money on Porter, added a 34 year old FB and now seem to be playing footsie with Trent Green. These moves could help short term but in the end this team is still very far away from contending for a championship and the future doesn't look overly promising either.

 

[Gatorman]

Miami is somewhat confusing. This is a team that's nothing special. They have a quality D but most of the main pieces are not getting any younger. Offensively as long as that O line stays mediocre that unit is in trouble regardless of who's at QB. IMO this team needs to get younger (the Wanny years really gutted this team) but they really don't seem to be heading in that direction. They spent big money on Porter, added a 34 year old FB and now seem to be playing footsie with Trent Green. These moves could help short term but in the end this team is still very far away from contending for a championship and the future doesn't look overly promising either.

I think Miami is approaching this ina two pronged way..Add veterans for the short term, but also add draft picks for the long term. Miami does not want to "suck" for the next few years to get good, and one could arguably say that if the dolphins sign brees instead of Culpepper they would have had a very different year last year.Green + Lemon + a rookie for the future at QB is okay for now.A draft that rebuilds the O Line, gets one guy for the D Line, and some CBs (with a WR or LB in the mix as well) and the dolphins are all of a sudden a much better positioned team.If Miami can draft themselves an O Line, 90% of what plagued them last year will be solved.

 

[cutter]

What if: Culpepper + Miami 1st round pick + Miami 5th or 6th round pick = Oakland 1st Round pick? Could this be feasable?

 

[massraider]

What if: Culpepper + Miami 1st round pick + Miami 5th or 6th round pick = Oakland 1st Round pick? Could this be feasable?

I'm gonna say no.

 

[LBH]

I see maybe clipboard duty(if hes healthy)

 

[Liquid Tension]

Miami is somewhat confusing. This is a team that's nothing special. They have a quality D but most of the main pieces are not getting any younger. Offensively as long as that O line stays mediocre that unit is in trouble regardless of who's at QB. IMO this team needs to get younger (the Wanny years really gutted this team) but they really don't seem to be heading in that direction. They spent big money on Porter, added a 34 year old FB and now seem to be playing footsie with Trent Green. These moves could help short term but in the end this team is still very far away from contending for a championship and the future doesn't look overly promising either.

I think Miami is approaching this ina two pronged way..Add veterans for the short term, but also add draft picks for the long term. Miami does not want to "suck" for the next few years to get good, and one could arguably say that if the dolphins sign brees instead of Culpepper they would have had a very different year last year.Green + Lemon + a rookie for the future at QB is okay for now.A draft that rebuilds the O Line, gets one guy for the D Line, and some CBs (with a WR or LB in the mix as well) and the dolphins are all of a sudden a much better positioned team.If Miami can draft themselves an O Line, 90% of what plagued them last year will be solved.

I am with Boston on this one. Getting Trent Green is a mistake, unless it is for one year with all incentives for this year and only giving up a 7th round pick. Anything else is a bad move. I would rather go with Culpy and Lemon and sure up the OL and secondary. Dropping Culpy saves the team some real dollars but doesn't do much for the cap this year.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.

When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.

And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

How have Moss's #s been without Culpepper

Since he left Minny, he's been banged up and without a real QB.Prior to Culpepper, Moss was lights out with Randal Cunningham, Brad Johnson, and Jeff George. When Culpepper took over, Moss was lights out with Gus Frerotte and Todd Bouman when Culpepper was injured.

It is a valid argument that Moss made Culpepper. It is not a valid argument that Culpepper made Moss, if that is what you were implying.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

What if: Culpepper + Miami 1st round pick + Miami 5th or 6th round pick = Oakland 1st Round pick? Could this be feasable?

fook no.Culpepper doesn't command anywhere near that price.

 

[fsufan]

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.

When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.

And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

How have Moss's #s been without Culpepper

Since he left Minny, he's been banged up and without a real QB.Prior to Culpepper, Moss was lights out with Randal Cunningham, Brad Johnson, and Jeff George. When Culpepper took over, Moss was lights out with Gus Frerotte and Todd Bouman when Culpepper was injured.

It is a valid argument that Moss made Culpepper. It is not a valid argument that Culpepper made Moss, if that is what you were implying.

culpepper did not need Moss his blow up year, 2004. Moss was hurt that year as well. He has been hurt the past 3 years. Time to call him injury prone.2005 #s

culpepper

4714 passing, 39 TDs, 406 rushing, 2 TDs

Moss

716 yard, 13 TDs

I do not think Culpepper is a Superbowl QB due to poor decision-making and turnovers but he was (could be again) a FF machine in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. He got hurt in 2001.

I think he was the #1 FF QB and overall FF player in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Warhogs]

I think Culpepper is soon to follow the same path as David Carr and be released. Just from the rumors that have been reported recently it seems likely this happens.

 

[Todem]

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.

When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.

And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

How have Moss's #s been without Culpepper

Since he left Minny, he's been banged up and without a real QB.Prior to Culpepper, Moss was lights out with Randal Cunningham, Brad Johnson, and Jeff George. When Culpepper took over, Moss was lights out with Gus Frerotte and Todd Bouman when Culpepper was injured.

It is a valid argument that Moss made Culpepper. It is not a valid argument that Culpepper made Moss, if that is what you were implying.

culpepper did not need Moss his blow up year, 2004. Moss was hurt that year as well. He has been hurt the past 3 years. Time to call him injury prone.2005 #s

culpepper

4714 passing, 39 TDs, 406 rushing, 2 TDs

Moss

716 yard, 13 TDs

I do not think Culpepper is a Superbowl QB due to poor decision-making and turnovers but he was (could be again) a FF machine in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. He got hurt in 2001.

I think he was the #1 FF QB and overall FF player in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. Correct me if I am wrong.

Daunte had been a proven FF machine. If he does not get his shot with Miami at 100% health then he will somewhere else.From a fantasy perspective he had been awesome till his collapse in 2005 and then horrendous knee injury. From a football prospective he may be not the franchise QB I thought he could be. I feel he can still be a great FF QB so time will tell in the upcoming 2007 season. If he get's released some team is going to get a proven QB for nothing. The Dolphins should not even be thinking about Trent "done" Green. He is waaaay to old. Stick with C.Pep and if we suck then we can go after a QB with our top 5 pick next year. I am very confused with the teams approach and have been since Shula left in all honesty. Cam Cameron taking on the play calling and not having an offensive cordinator is a recipe for bad things. I mean really, how can you run an entire team, truly game plan on offense at the same time call the plays on game day. He is got a big ego and a ton of balls and will be in for a rude awakening this season. If we win 7-8 games I will be shocked.

I am a very frustrated Dolphins fan to say the least.

 

[Bull Dozier]

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.

When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.

And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

How have Moss's #s been without Culpepper

Since he left Minny, he's been banged up and without a real QB.Prior to Culpepper, Moss was lights out with Randal Cunningham, Brad Johnson, and Jeff George. When Culpepper took over, Moss was lights out with Gus Frerotte and Todd Bouman when Culpepper was injured.

It is a valid argument that Moss made Culpepper. It is not a valid argument that Culpepper made Moss, if that is what you were implying.

culpepper did not need Moss his blow up year, 2004. Moss was hurt that year as well. He has been hurt the past 3 years. Time to call him injury prone.2005 #s

culpepper

4714 passing, 39 TDs, 406 rushing, 2 TDs

Moss

716 yard, 13 TDs

I do not think Culpepper is a Superbowl QB due to poor decision-making and turnovers but he was (could be again) a FF machine in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. He got hurt in 2001.

I think he was the #1 FF QB and overall FF player in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. Correct me if I am wrong.

Culpepper's "blow up" season was a great look at how he depends on Moss. His 2004 season can be broken down into three separate and distinct parts:-With a fully healthy Moss (games 1-6)

-Without Moss (games 7-11)

-With Moss at less than 100% (games 12-17)

Any guess on how Culpepper's performance in these three section were relatively to the others?

-With a fully healthy Moss: 31.5 fantasy ppg

-Without Moss: 18.4 fantasy ppg

-With Moss at less than 100%: 21.9 fantasy ppg.

It doesn't get any clear cut than that.

 

[Obie Wan]

I have not followed this situation closely, but I do read the rumors of Trent Green or David Carr to Miami. Would these moves be as insurance if Culpepper is not healthy or would they be to replace Culpepper as stater? The new coach and offense certainly add to the intrigue.I'd love to hear the the Sharks' insight into (1) how healthy is Culpepper; (2) how will Culpepper perform if healthy (though not back to the same pre-injury skill level); and (3) the situation in Miami (is the new regime backing Culpepper or not).

No amount of time will fix what is wrong with Culpepper and that is lack of gray matter and the inabiltiy to quickly process information.

 

[Todem]

I have not followed this situation closely, but I do read the rumors of Trent Green or David Carr to Miami. Would these moves be as insurance if Culpepper is not healthy or would they be to replace Culpepper as stater? The new coach and offense certainly add to the intrigue.I'd love to hear the the Sharks' insight into (1) how healthy is Culpepper; (2) how will Culpepper perform if healthy (though not back to the same pre-injury skill level); and (3) the situation in Miami (is the new regime backing Culpepper or not).

No amount of time will fix what is wrong with Culpepper and that is lack of gray matter and the inabiltiy to quickly process information.

I can understand people thinking he is not a bright QB and what not, but you just don't assemble the kind of seasons and also lead a team to the NFC Title game because of one player in Randy Moss. Moss in his prime was amazing but Culpepper made a ton of plays with his feet and arm. He may not be the brightest but he can play this game with the elite QB's as he has proven between 1999 and 2004. In fact going into 2005 they were talking about how he was just as deserving of the 2004 league MVP and he is one of the top 5 QB's in the game.Talk about kicking a guy to the curb after a bad start to his 2005 season and then a massive knee injury.

 

[BigJim®]

Very puzzling situation. I'm actually a bit surprised that we've not heard more about Daunte's healing progress since the middle of last season. All that seems to ever get "leaked from anon sources" is that he's still having problems. If they do not go QB in the first round of the draft, and Culpepper remains on the Dolphins roster past June, I'm assuming it's because they have not given up on him and expect him to start. I'm personally not reading any more into Carr/T.Green than I read into the acquisition of Harrington last year. If anything, those sorts of signings indicate only a need for insurance rather than change of direction as to franchise QB. Also, even if Culpepper gets cut, it could just indicate that Miami doesn't want to gamble with such a large contract, as opposed to a statement that he's done. We'll see though...

 

[BigJim®]

No amount of time willcould fix what iswas wrong with Culpepper and that is lack of gray matter and the inabiltiy to quickly process informationthat he had former Offensive Line coach Steve Loney running his offense because Cheapo McCombs didn't want to spend any money at all to replace Scott Linehan.

Fixed

 

[FavreCo]

I need additional info before I judge his prognosis. Namely does he still prefer using a Wal-mart parking lot for rehab.

Childress sent athletic trainer Eric Sugarman to visit Culpepper last month, and the two met at a HealthSouth clinic near Orlando. According to Childress, the facility was small and its resources were vastly inferior to what the Vikings use at Winter Park.

"You ask, 'Where is he rehabbing?' " Childress said. "He's rehabbing in a HealthSouth place in Orlando. ... I've spent some time in this state. ... I close my eyes. I'm seeing a Chinese restaurant, a HealthSouth place, a laundromat. Basically a strip mall that he's rehabbing himself at.

"And I'm thinking, what did they have in there? They had a StepMaster and some other things. In other words, all the modalities we have in our training room, all the different things [he didn't have]. ... I just thought it would be better [to train in Minnesota]."

After Sugarman examined the knee, Culpepper agreed to attempt some basic movement drills. According to Childress, Culpepper led Sugarman out of a back door ... and into the parking lot of a Wal-Mart.

"So you can understand where I'm coming from," Childress said. "The Chinese restaurant, the laundromat, then he's in an alley, out the back door and into the Wal-Mart parking lot. I'm like, 'What's wrong with this picture?' ... This is our franchise quarterback. ... Is he better served here in the fieldhouse or in the Wal-Mart parking lot?

 

[BigJim®]

I need additional info before I judge his prognosis. Namely does he still prefer using a Wal-mart parking lot for rehab.

Childress sent athletic trainer Eric Sugarman to visit Culpepper last month, and the two met at a HealthSouth clinic near Orlando. According to Childress, the facility was small and its resources were vastly inferior to what the Vikings use at Winter Park.

"You ask, 'Where is he rehabbing?' " Childress said. "He's rehabbing in a HealthSouth place in Orlando. ... I've spent some time in this state. ... I close my eyes. I'm seeing a Chinese restaurant, a HealthSouth place, a laundromat. Basically a strip mall that he's rehabbing himself at.

"And I'm thinking, what did they have in there? They had a StepMaster and some other things. In other words, all the modalities we have in our training room, all the different things [he didn't have]. ... I just thought it would be better [to train in Minnesota]."

After Sugarman examined the knee, Culpepper agreed to attempt some basic movement drills. According to Childress, Culpepper led Sugarman out of a back door ... and into the parking lot of a Wal-Mart.

"So you can understand where I'm coming from," Childress said. "The Chinese restaurant, the laundromat, then he's in an alley, out the back door and into the Wal-Mart parking lot. I'm like, 'What's wrong with this picture?' ... This is our franchise quarterback. ... Is he better served here in the fieldhouse or in the Wal-Mart parking lot?

Was this before or after Childress compared Culpepper to Terrell Owens? FYI- any quote from Childress on Culpepper is 50% sour grapes following his initial meeting with Culpepper and 50% him wanting to garner public support for an unpopular decision. Also, in case you've forgotten, here was Culpepper's statline vs. Green Bay in his January 2005 playoff game... his last real action prior to leading the Steve Loney offense in fall 2005: Comp/Att 17/27

Yards 256

TD/INT 4/0

Rating 133.6

BTW- Anyone know which NFL team has Steve Loney running its offense now? Just curious... I seem to have lost track of that offensive genius.

 

[Buttmonkey]

I need additional info before I judge his prognosis. Namely does he still prefer using a Wal-mart parking lot for rehab.

Childress sent athletic trainer Eric Sugarman to visit Culpepper last month, and the two met at a HealthSouth clinic near Orlando. According to Childress, the facility was small and its resources were vastly inferior to what the Vikings use at Winter Park.

"You ask, 'Where is he rehabbing?' " Childress said. "He's rehabbing in a HealthSouth place in Orlando. ... I've spent some time in this state. ... I close my eyes. I'm seeing a Chinese restaurant, a HealthSouth place, a laundromat. Basically a strip mall that he's rehabbing himself at.

"And I'm thinking, what did they have in there? They had a StepMaster and some other things. In other words, all the modalities we have in our training room, all the different things [he didn't have]. ... I just thought it would be better [to train in Minnesota]."

After Sugarman examined the knee, Culpepper agreed to attempt some basic movement drills. According to Childress, Culpepper led Sugarman out of a back door ... and into the parking lot of a Wal-Mart.

"So you can understand where I'm coming from," Childress said. "The Chinese restaurant, the laundromat, then he's in an alley, out the back door and into the Wal-Mart parking lot. I'm like, 'What's wrong with this picture?' ... This is our franchise quarterback. ... Is he better served here in the fieldhouse or in the Wal-Mart parking lot?

Was this before or after Childress compared Culpepper to Terrell Owens? FYI- any quote from Childress on Culpepper is 50% sour grapes following his initial meeting with Culpepper and 50% him wanting to garner public support for an unpopular decision. Also, in case you've forgotten, here was Culpepper's statline vs. Green Bay in his January 2005 playoff game... his last real action prior to leading the Steve Loney offense in fall 2005: Comp/Att 17/27

Yards 256

TD/INT 4/0

Rating 133.6

BTW- Anyone know which NFL team has Steve Loney running its offense now? Just curious... I seem to have lost track of that offensive genius.

See, this bit of information people don't seem to grasp. In 2005, not only was Culpepper without Moss, but they changed offensive schemes. Then came the knee blowout and then he tried to come back too soon (last season). I think it has more to do with other things why people don't like or respect Culpepper's value.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Without Randy Moss, Culpepper's stats fell off sharly in 2005. Even before the injury he looked terrible.

When he got back on the field in 2006, he looked equally as bad. Just my 2 cents. but I think he was the product of playing alongside Randy Moss & Chris Carter.

And, as NFL scouts will tell you, he has small hands.

How have Moss's #s been without Culpepper

Since he left Minny, he's been banged up and without a real QB.Prior to Culpepper, Moss was lights out with Randal Cunningham, Brad Johnson, and Jeff George. When Culpepper took over, Moss was lights out with Gus Frerotte and Todd Bouman when Culpepper was injured.

It is a valid argument that Moss made Culpepper. It is not a valid argument that Culpepper made Moss, if that is what you were implying.

culpepper did not need Moss his blow up year, 2004. Moss was hurt that year as well. He has been hurt the past 3 years. Time to call him injury prone.2005 #s

culpepper

4714 passing, 39 TDs, 406 rushing, 2 TDs

Moss

716 yard, 13 TDs

I do not think Culpepper is a Superbowl QB due to poor decision-making and turnovers but he was (could be again) a FF machine in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. He got hurt in 2001.

I think he was the #1 FF QB and overall FF player in 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004. Correct me if I am wrong.

Culpepper's "blow up" season was a great look at how he depends on Moss. His 2004 season can be broken down into three separate and distinct parts:-With a fully healthy Moss (games 1-6)

-Without Moss (games 7-11)

-With Moss at less than 100% (games 12-17)

Any guess on how Culpepper's performance in these three section were relatively to the others?

-With a fully healthy Moss: 31.5 fantasy ppg

-Without Moss: 18.4 fantasy ppg

-With Moss at less than 100%: 21.9 fantasy ppg.

It doesn't get any clear cut than that.

I wonder how many QB's see a drop off in their performance when their star #1 receiver is injured?

 

[Liquid Tension]

I have not followed this situation closely, but I do read the rumors of Trent Green or David Carr to Miami. Would these moves be as insurance if Culpepper is not healthy or would they be to replace Culpepper as stater? The new coach and offense certainly add to the intrigue.I'd love to hear the the Sharks' insight into (1) how healthy is Culpepper; (2) how will Culpepper perform if healthy (though not back to the same pre-injury skill level); and (3) the situation in Miami (is the new regime backing Culpepper or not).

No amount of time will fix what is wrong with Culpepper and that is lack of gray matter and the inabiltiy to quickly process information.

I can understand people thinking he is not a bright QB and what not, but you just don't assemble the kind of seasons and also lead a team to the NFC Title game because of one player in Randy Moss. Moss in his prime was amazing but Culpepper made a ton of plays with his feet and arm. He may not be the brightest but he can play this game with the elite QB's as he has proven between 1999 and 2004. In fact going into 2005 they were talking about how he was just as deserving of the 2004 league MVP and he is one of the top 5 QB's in the game.Talk about kicking a guy to the curb after a bad start to his 2005 season and then a massive knee injury.

Todem, I agree with you about the direction of the Dolphins and their handling of Culpy. I have no idea why they would have any interest in Green? I would rather them play Cleo Lemon for a year then play with Green. That being said, say what you want, but if he can scramble, Culpy will be an effective QB. He has over a 60% completion % every single year of his career and has a lifetime 64%. he also possesses a 90 QB rating for his career (including these last few tough ones) and that does not include all his scrambling ability (2500 yards and 30 TD's). Of course that does not include the fumbles 34 either.If he can scramble even a Little worse than he was, I would take him any day.

 

[Routilla]

I have not followed this situation closely, but I do read the rumors of Trent Green or David Carr to Miami. Would these moves be as insurance if Culpepper is not healthy or would they be to replace Culpepper as stater? The new coach and offense certainly add to the intrigue.I'd love to hear the the Sharks' insight into (1) how healthy is Culpepper; (2) how will Culpepper perform if healthy (though not back to the same pre-injury skill level); and (3) the situation in Miami (is the new regime backing Culpepper or not).

I'm sure his travel agent is searching for a good party boat tour that C-Pep would like.

 

[Dolfan]

From the horse's mouth

Thought this was worth posting...

Interesting timing of this statement...

I can't imagine the Dolphins would get much of anything for Culpepper in a trade with the Raiders -- maybe a 5th or 6th rounder, but I'm not sure that would be the best deal for either team...

 

[Stinkin Ref]

if he gets cut I would love to see KC take a shot at him...........