Dallas Cowboys Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)

[Terpman22]

The Parsons trade was a huge blowout win for the Cowboys. FA James Houston has just 2 less sacks for millions and millions and millions less even though he's got much less help than Micah does in Green Bay with Gary drawing a lot of attention. If Arizona wasn't so inept and let Parsons get over half his sacks in one game last week, he'd have about the same number as Houston. And that's with Houston playing part time. Micah would be lucky to have the 3.5 sacks Houston does right now if he was still in Dallas.

The Cowboys are now setup for success with 4 1st-rounders over the next 2 years, a lot of extra cap space, and only having to focus on one side of the ball. Jerry's deal was a grand slam. At the same time, I've always said you can't blame the Packers for taking a shot. It might work out for them, as well.

By the way, no, we don't miss Micah's 8 solo tackles, LMAO. Parsons is fairly good at one thing, but he's one of the most overrated players in the league based on salary.

That's the reason Jerry passed on bending over.

"I don't understand how coverages work"

Okay so... When Parsons was on the field with Dal the entire defense improved simply because of the attention he draws. You can see it in the splits between him on and off the field, even when Parsons is doing nothing solo. Houston gets sacks because Houston isn't dealing with double teams, and he doesn't allow for other players on the defense to take advantage of him just being there.

Coverages? Right.

Unfortunately, there's a salary cap. Micah is a one-dimensional player and that's not something that's negotiable...and he's not worth anywhere near what his salary was going to be for us. How Parsons fits or doesn't fit in Green Bay is their problem. That said, the deal doesn't necessarily have to be bad for the Packers for it to be a win for us. Dallas came out way ahead, long-term. The Cowboys certainly weren't going anywhere with Micah. You can't win a title with our D...with or without Parsons.

The offense is set up for years. I just saw an OL ranking that had us at #2 based on PFF ratings and that's with multiple inuries. We're young and deep everywhere on O. Dak is 32, but QBs play a long time these days. Only having to focus on one side of the ball while we rebuild is a dynamic not to be underestimated.

Dallas is a ways shortsup on D right now, but the Cowboys are one of the better drafting teams in the league and we're set up really well with picks the next couple years. Jerry has done a fantastic job this offseason. I'd just as soon see us get a top-10 pick next season, but we might win too many games.

Oh, yeah, the salary cap. Not like teams figure out how to pass the hit on to multiple years with outs built into the contract. I seem to recall the saints in the negative for years while trying to keep their superbowl window open with Brees. Even better if the front office is good at drafting and they don't need to pay middling vets.

Genuinely curious - what teams have built up one side of the ball while ignoring the other side, who then went on to be successful? I'm thinking of Cin as a recent example, and even they ended up paying for their one defensive star.

Parsons pressures the qb. Four years of over 70 times. His run game weakness is like arguing Derek Henry isn't a good rb because he offers nothing in the pass game. Some players are so good they can get away with being more one dimensional. Parsons is one of them. What you can't argue are the splits from when he's on the field VS when he's not. And you can't argue it's not a significant difference.

Also you should care how GB does. It's the difference between a pick in the mid 20s and last in the round. That is a significant distance as well.

Finally... I just don't see "deep". Williams was a lucky find but Sanders and Blue? Mafah? Wr you have a top five pair in the league... Then Tolbert and Terpin. Maybe you're a Mingo truther? I guess Shoonmaker would be a good enough te, but we're not talking Gronk and Hernandez here.
Where's the depth?

 

[Terpman22]

Per sleeper Cowboys made trade calls on Crosby and Hendrickson and were told “nah”

Cowboys usually draft well, expecting that Mazi Smith extension any day now.

 

[Football Jones]

I'm especially happy Jerry has built what looks like a top, young, and deep OL. That's key to being able to keep a top offense year after year. What the injury replacements are doing is pretty amazing in the salary cap era.

With the quality drafting Dallas is known for, I expect our D to be much improved after a couple years with the 4 1st-rounders.

 

[Football Jones]

I don't think the vast majority of fans are under any illusion of a deep playoff run this season. I'm not sure we even have a shot at making the playoffs, period. If Overshown can come back 100% soon, maybe we have a paper-thin chance.

I wouldn't mind a top-10 pick, myself. At least we're back on track with a decent HC. We have the tools to make this a fairly short rebuild.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Cowboys usually draft well, expecting that Mazi Smith extension any day now.

Reagor over Justin Jefferson

 

[Terpman22]

Cowboys usually draft well, expecting that Mazi Smith extension any day now.

Reagor over Justin Jefferson

When you gotta go back half a decade, 2 Super Bowl appearances including a Super Bowl title to find the last bust

 

[dickey moe]

That was brutal. The defense... blow it up.

 

[Kiddnets]

That was brutal. The defense... blow it up.

while the defense was brutal the O wasnt much better - looks like fools gold

 

[wgoldsph]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

 

[Football Jones]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

 

[wgoldsph]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

Six yards a carry in what, ten carries? Come on man. If you're trying to delude yourself onto the Miles Sanders game you're years behind the eagles in competition. I was being tongue in cheek before, but I would genuinely like to see what Mafah has to offer. Otherwise they need to seriously rethink that entire room behind Jayonte. Blue will probably get a year even if he's bad, but I don't see a rb who's going to be 29 and coming off a major injury to be anything close to quality depth.
There's no 3rd wr. A deep offense isn't one where the backup comes in and the general consensus is the entire unit might go to ****, like when Lamb got hurt. Having Pickens step up is great, but I already agreed that they're a top five tandem. Who is 3? Who comes in like Jennings in SF and steps up when you actually need that depth? You can't expect a random rookie to bust out every week you're down your top wr, or you end up losing to Carolina. Tolbert isn't that guy, but he's the depth they have right now.
As for te, every team has a blocking te. Where's the depth?

Depth, to me, is having a guy or two who you can count on to replace the starter in the event they get hurt. And in positions with multiple players on the field, like wr, you need to trust your 4th or 5th guy to preform close to that level as well. If you can confidently tell me that in the event of losing Pickens for the rest of the season you're just as comfortable with Tolbert as the new no 2, and you don't consider it to be a noticeable downgrade... Well I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

You know where they have actual depth? Qb. The only position on their offense I can confidently say is deep. Milton was a good move.

 

[Football Jones]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

Six yards a carry in what, ten carries? Come on man. If you're trying to delude yourself onto the Miles Sanders game you're years behind the eagles in competition. I was being tongue in cheek before, but I would genuinely like to see what Mafah has to offer. Otherwise they need to seriously rethink that entire room behind Jayonte. Blue will probably get a year even if he's bad, but I don't see a rb who's going to be 29 and coming off a major injury to be anything close to quality depth.
There's no 3rd wr. A deep offense isn't one where the backup comes in and the general consensus is the entire unit might go to ****, like when Lamb got hurt. Having Pickens step up is great, but I already agreed that they're a top five tandem. Who is 3? Who comes in like Jennings in SF and steps up when you actually need that depth? You can't expect a random rookie to bust out every week you're down your top wr, or you end up losing to Carolina. Tolbert isn't that guy, but he's the depth they have right now.
As for te, every team has a blocking te. Where's the depth?

Depth, to me, is having a guy or two who you can count on to replace the starter in the event they get hurt. And in positions with multiple players on the field, like wr, you need to trust your 4th or 5th guy to preform close to that level as well. If you can confidently tell me that in the event of losing Pickens for the rest of the season you're just as comfortable with Tolbert as the new no 2, and you don't consider it to be a noticeable downgrade... Well I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

You know where they have actual depth? Qb. The only position on their offense I can confidently say is deep. Milton was a good move.

It was 20 carries and Sanders looked good doing it. Along with Javonte, Jerry did us right. Home run.

Dak and Milton at QB. CeeDee and George at WR. If one goes down, BOOM, we still got a stud. Ferguson at TE with a decent backup (Schoonmaker, a 2nd round pick) and our TE3 might be the best blocker in the league (Spann-Ford). I'm assuming I don't need to mention our top, young OL. We also have an outstanding returner in Turpin.

Even after a bad game, we're 2nd in both yardage and scoring. We're good and deep. And this is an era where it's tough to have quality depth. What are you not getting? It's not like this is hard.

 

[wgoldsph]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

Six yards a carry in what, ten carries? Come on man. If you're trying to delude yourself onto the Miles Sanders game you're years behind the eagles in competition. I was being tongue in cheek before, but I would genuinely like to see what Mafah has to offer. Otherwise they need to seriously rethink that entire room behind Jayonte. Blue will probably get a year even if he's bad, but I don't see a rb who's going to be 29 and coming off a major injury to be anything close to quality depth.
There's no 3rd wr. A deep offense isn't one where the backup comes in and the general consensus is the entire unit might go to ****, like when Lamb got hurt. Having Pickens step up is great, but I already agreed that they're a top five tandem. Who is 3? Who comes in like Jennings in SF and steps up when you actually need that depth? You can't expect a random rookie to bust out every week you're down your top wr, or you end up losing to Carolina. Tolbert isn't that guy, but he's the depth they have right now.
As for te, every team has a blocking te. Where's the depth?

Depth, to me, is having a guy or two who you can count on to replace the starter in the event they get hurt. And in positions with multiple players on the field, like wr, you need to trust your 4th or 5th guy to preform close to that level as well. If you can confidently tell me that in the event of losing Pickens for the rest of the season you're just as comfortable with Tolbert as the new no 2, and you don't consider it to be a noticeable downgrade... Well I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

You know where they have actual depth? Qb. The only position on their offense I can confidently say is deep. Milton was a good move.

It was 20 carries and Sanders looked good doing it. Along with Javonte, Jerry did us right. Home run.

Dak and Milton at QB. CeeDee and George at WR. If one goes down, BOOM, we still got a stud. Ferguson at TE with a decent backup (Schoonmaker, a 2nd round pick) and our TE3 might be the best blocker in the league (Spann-Ford). I'm assuming I don't need to mention our top, young OL. We also have an outstanding returner in Turpin.

Even after a bad game, we're 2nd in both yardage and scoring. We're good and deep. And this is an era where it's tough to have quality depth. What are you not getting? It's not like this is hard.

20 carries VS his career, which could be wrong? I'll do you a favor, we'll agree with Sanders the cowboys get an "incomplete" grade. There's a reason Dowdle or whatever is playing better in Carolina than Sanders ever did.


Ok, so having a 2nd good starters is depth? Man, I didn't know Cincinnati was the deepest team in the league at wr. Who cares that most teams carry five wr on the game day roster, number two is all the depth you need.


Come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm not arguing that it is easy to have quality depth. I'm arguing with your assessment that the assortment of lost toys behind the starter is "good". Again, you can't tell me a third wr that you would actually feel comfortable acting as the teams long term replacement to a starter. Because that would be depth. What you have is a bunch of backups, which isn't quality depth. None of these backups will provide over league average production (aka be quality depth) with the potential exception of Milton.


So I ask again - is there any place on the roster where the backup can come in and without a doubt perform better than league average at their position, or provide 90% of what you can get from the starter? Just one player (outside of Milton) you can say for sure will even be league average if they're forced to play for CD or Williams for the rest of the season. Because I can not for the life of me find that guy on the Dallas roster.

 

[Football Jones]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

Six yards a carry in what, ten carries? Come on man. If you're trying to delude yourself onto the Miles Sanders game you're years behind the eagles in competition. I was being tongue in cheek before, but I would genuinely like to see what Mafah has to offer. Otherwise they need to seriously rethink that entire room behind Jayonte. Blue will probably get a year even if he's bad, but I don't see a rb who's going to be 29 and coming off a major injury to be anything close to quality depth.
There's no 3rd wr. A deep offense isn't one where the backup comes in and the general consensus is the entire unit might go to ****, like when Lamb got hurt. Having Pickens step up is great, but I already agreed that they're a top five tandem. Who is 3? Who comes in like Jennings in SF and steps up when you actually need that depth? You can't expect a random rookie to bust out every week you're down your top wr, or you end up losing to Carolina. Tolbert isn't that guy, but he's the depth they have right now.
As for te, every team has a blocking te. Where's the depth?

Depth, to me, is having a guy or two who you can count on to replace the starter in the event they get hurt. And in positions with multiple players on the field, like wr, you need to trust your 4th or 5th guy to preform close to that level as well. If you can confidently tell me that in the event of losing Pickens for the rest of the season you're just as comfortable with Tolbert as the new no 2, and you don't consider it to be a noticeable downgrade... Well I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

You know where they have actual depth? Qb. The only position on their offense I can confidently say is deep. Milton was a good move.

It was 20 carries and Sanders looked good doing it. Along with Javonte, Jerry did us right. Home run.

Dak and Milton at QB. CeeDee and George at WR. If one goes down, BOOM, we still got a stud. Ferguson at TE with a decent backup (Schoonmaker, a 2nd round pick) and our TE3 might be the best blocker in the league (Spann-Ford). I'm assuming I don't need to mention our top, young OL. We also have an outstanding returner in Turpin.

Even after a bad game, we're 2nd in both yardage and scoring. We're good and deep. And this is an era where it's tough to have quality depth. What are you not getting? It's not like this is hard.

20 carries VS his career, which could be wrong? I'll do you a favor, we'll agree with Sanders the cowboys get an "incomplete" grade. There's a reason Dowdle or whatever is playing better in Carolina than Sanders ever did.


Ok, so having a 2nd good starters is depth? Man, I didn't know Cincinnati was the deepest team in the league at wr. Who cares that most teams carry five wr on the game day roster, number two is all the depth you need.


Come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm not arguing that it is easy to have quality depth. I'm arguing with your assessment that the assortment of lost toys behind the starter is "good". Again, you can't tell me a third wr that you would actually feel comfortable acting as the teams long term replacement to a starter. Because that would be depth. What you have is a bunch of backups, which isn't quality depth. None of these backups will provide over league average production (aka be quality depth) with the potential exception of Milton.


So I ask again - is there any place on the roster where the backup can come in and without a doubt perform better than league average at their position, or provide 90% of what you can get from the starter? Just one player (outside of Milton) you can say for sure will even be league average if they're forced to play for CD or Williams for the rest of the season. Because I can not for the life of me find that guy on the Dallas roster.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand. When you look at the depth around the league, we're one of the deeper teams. We remained the #1 offense in the league when we were without CeeDee, several starting offensive lineman (which is incredible), and our COP back. That's hard to believe in this day and age. By the way, it's funny you're focusing so much on RB when it's the easiest position to find a decent replacement. You're simply way out of the loop, lol.

Our D? That's another story. Luckily, Jerry didn't fall for Micah's nonsense. That contract would've killed us. We were terrible with him last year. Instead, we got a shot at remaking our D with rookie contracts and select, reasonable FA signings (we have extra cap space now). We're known as a good drafting team so the future looks pretty dang bright, especially given our talented and deep offense.

That said, our D will likely hurt our O this season. Playing from behind favors the opposing D. I'm not sure we can stay a top-5 offense, but when we get better on D, our O will shine even more. We're outstanding on that side of the ball. Jerry has done a fantastic job this offseason.

 

[wgoldsph]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

Six yards a carry in what, ten carries? Come on man. If you're trying to delude yourself onto the Miles Sanders game you're years behind the eagles in competition. I was being tongue in cheek before, but I would genuinely like to see what Mafah has to offer. Otherwise they need to seriously rethink that entire room behind Jayonte. Blue will probably get a year even if he's bad, but I don't see a rb who's going to be 29 and coming off a major injury to be anything close to quality depth.
There's no 3rd wr. A deep offense isn't one where the backup comes in and the general consensus is the entire unit might go to ****, like when Lamb got hurt. Having Pickens step up is great, but I already agreed that they're a top five tandem. Who is 3? Who comes in like Jennings in SF and steps up when you actually need that depth? You can't expect a random rookie to bust out every week you're down your top wr, or you end up losing to Carolina. Tolbert isn't that guy, but he's the depth they have right now.
As for te, every team has a blocking te. Where's the depth?

Depth, to me, is having a guy or two who you can count on to replace the starter in the event they get hurt. And in positions with multiple players on the field, like wr, you need to trust your 4th or 5th guy to preform close to that level as well. If you can confidently tell me that in the event of losing Pickens for the rest of the season you're just as comfortable with Tolbert as the new no 2, and you don't consider it to be a noticeable downgrade... Well I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

You know where they have actual depth? Qb. The only position on their offense I can confidently say is deep. Milton was a good move.

It was 20 carries and Sanders looked good doing it. Along with Javonte, Jerry did us right. Home run.

Dak and Milton at QB. CeeDee and George at WR. If one goes down, BOOM, we still got a stud. Ferguson at TE with a decent backup (Schoonmaker, a 2nd round pick) and our TE3 might be the best blocker in the league (Spann-Ford). I'm assuming I don't need to mention our top, young OL. We also have an outstanding returner in Turpin.

Even after a bad game, we're 2nd in both yardage and scoring. We're good and deep. And this is an era where it's tough to have quality depth. What are you not getting? It's not like this is hard.

20 carries VS his career, which could be wrong? I'll do you a favor, we'll agree with Sanders the cowboys get an "incomplete" grade. There's a reason Dowdle or whatever is playing better in Carolina than Sanders ever did.


Ok, so having a 2nd good starters is depth? Man, I didn't know Cincinnati was the deepest team in the league at wr. Who cares that most teams carry five wr on the game day roster, number two is all the depth you need.


Come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm not arguing that it is easy to have quality depth. I'm arguing with your assessment that the assortment of lost toys behind the starter is "good". Again, you can't tell me a third wr that you would actually feel comfortable acting as the teams long term replacement to a starter. Because that would be depth. What you have is a bunch of backups, which isn't quality depth. None of these backups will provide over league average production (aka be quality depth) with the potential exception of Milton.


So I ask again - is there any place on the roster where the backup can come in and without a doubt perform better than league average at their position, or provide 90% of what you can get from the starter? Just one player (outside of Milton) you can say for sure will even be league average if they're forced to play for CD or Williams for the rest of the season. Because I can not for the life of me find that guy on the Dallas roster.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand. When you look at the depth around the league, we're one of the deeper teams. We remained the #1 offense in the league when we were without CeeDee, several starting offensive lineman (which is incredible), and our COP back. That's hard to believe in this day and age. By the way, it's funny you're focusing so much on RB when it's the easiest position to find a decent replacement. You're simply way out of the loop, lol.

Our D? That's another story. Luckily, Jerry didn't fall for Micah's nonsense. That contract would've killed us. We were terrible with him last year. Instead, we got a shot at remaking our D with rookie contracts and select, reasonable FA signings (we have extra cap space now). We're

So basically you're just ignoring the depth part of depth.

You want a team that's got better depth at wr? Just a quick look says Bills, Mia, Cin, indy, den... And at this point I got tired of looking before getting halfway through the AFC. I would take any of the third and sometimes fourth wr on these teams than any of the ones on the cowboys... Aka they have better depth. As for continuing the best offense in the league... Yeah against the Jets and Panthers. And what's embarrassing about that in terms of depth? The Jets made their offense flow through a rookie rb, and the Panthers managed to shut down the entire offense outside Pickens... Literally exactly what a team without depth does. Williams didn't even have running room with the defense absolutely not afraid of the other Wrs. Genuinely don't know how you look at the two games without CD and see anything but a team that is severely handicapped by its lack of depth at the wr position.

I've asked for this multiple times - what's a piece of depth the cowboys have at wr? I don't know why this question seems to keep getting glossed over. To me it seems to be key to the entire argument - and I have to believe the reason you keep ignoring it is because you know that Turpin et all isn't quality depth.

I like how rb depth matters... Until it doesn't. Sanders was a selling point two posts up, but now a backup isn't hard to get at rb... So everyone has similar depth and it's not worth mentioning.

I have yet to talk about the defense. I don't know why you keep bringing it up. It's totally irrelevant to the offensive depth that the cowboys absolutely lack.

 

[Football Jones]

Blue looks like a quality depth piece... Or not. Guess rb isn't as deep as advertised.

LOL. Miles Sanders was the backup. He was averaging almost 6 YPC when he went down. Plenty good in the role they used him as a COP to Javonte. That would've been another good reclamation project signing by Jerry.

Blue's upside makes him a decent RB3 for us, but I didnt love the pick. I was hoping they'd take Ollie or Bill late. Still, the Cowboys offense is good and deep everywhere...something you don't find often in the salary cap era. Having two studs at WR helps immensely if one were to go down like with CeeDee. You saw George step up. Great signing by Jerry.

We've really never been able to focus on D in the draft so I'm anxious to see what we end up with after 2 years of hitting that side of the ball hard.

Six yards a carry in what, ten carries? Come on man. If you're trying to delude yourself onto the Miles Sanders game you're years behind the eagles in competition. I was being tongue in cheek before, but I would genuinely like to see what Mafah has to offer. Otherwise they need to seriously rethink that entire room behind Jayonte. Blue will probably get a year even if he's bad, but I don't see a rb who's going to be 29 and coming off a major injury to be anything close to quality depth.
There's no 3rd wr. A deep offense isn't one where the backup comes in and the general consensus is the entire unit might go to ****, like when Lamb got hurt. Having Pickens step up is great, but I already agreed that they're a top five tandem. Who is 3? Who comes in like Jennings in SF and steps up when you actually need that depth? You can't expect a random rookie to bust out every week you're down your top wr, or you end up losing to Carolina. Tolbert isn't that guy, but he's the depth they have right now.
As for te, every team has a blocking te. Where's the depth?

Depth, to me, is having a guy or two who you can count on to replace the starter in the event they get hurt. And in positions with multiple players on the field, like wr, you need to trust your 4th or 5th guy to preform close to that level as well. If you can confidently tell me that in the event of losing Pickens for the rest of the season you're just as comfortable with Tolbert as the new no 2, and you don't consider it to be a noticeable downgrade... Well I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

You know where they have actual depth? Qb. The only position on their offense I can confidently say is deep. Milton was a good move.

It was 20 carries and Sanders looked good doing it. Along with Javonte, Jerry did us right. Home run.

Dak and Milton at QB. CeeDee and George at WR. If one goes down, BOOM, we still got a stud. Ferguson at TE with a decent backup (Schoonmaker, a 2nd round pick) and our TE3 might be the best blocker in the league (Spann-Ford). I'm assuming I don't need to mention our top, young OL. We also have an outstanding returner in Turpin.

Even after a bad game, we're 2nd in both yardage and scoring. We're good and deep. And this is an era where it's tough to have quality depth. What are you not getting? It's not like this is hard.

20 carries VS his career, which could be wrong? I'll do you a favor, we'll agree with Sanders the cowboys get an "incomplete" grade. There's a reason Dowdle or whatever is playing better in Carolina than Sanders ever did.


Ok, so having a 2nd good starters is depth? Man, I didn't know Cincinnati was the deepest team in the league at wr. Who cares that most teams carry five wr on the game day roster, number two is all the depth you need.


Come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm not arguing that it is easy to have quality depth. I'm arguing with your assessment that the assortment of lost toys behind the starter is "good". Again, you can't tell me a third wr that you would actually feel comfortable acting as the teams long term replacement to a starter. Because that would be depth. What you have is a bunch of backups, which isn't quality depth. None of these backups will provide over league average production (aka be quality depth) with the potential exception of Milton.


So I ask again - is there any place on the roster where the backup can come in and without a doubt perform better than league average at their position, or provide 90% of what you can get from the starter? Just one player (outside of Milton) you can say for sure will even be league average if they're forced to play for CD or Williams for the rest of the season. Because I can not for the life of me find that guy on the Dallas roster.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand. When you look at the depth around the league, we're one of the deeper teams. We remained the #1 offense in the league when we were without CeeDee, several starting offensive lineman (which is incredible), and our COP back. That's hard to believe in this day and age. By the way, it's funny you're focusing so much on RB when it's the easiest position to find a decent replacement. You're simply way out of the loop, lol.

Our D? That's another story. Luckily, Jerry didn't fall for Micah's nonsense. That contract would've killed us. We were terrible with him last year. Instead, we got a shot at remaking our D with rookie contracts and select, reasonable FA signings (we have extra cap space now). We're

So basically you're just ignoring the depth part of depth.

You want a team that's got better depth at wr? Just a quick look says Bills, Mia, Cin, indy, den... And at this point I got tired of looking before getting halfway through the AFC. I would take any of the third and sometimes fourth wr on these teams than any of the ones on the cowboys... Aka they have better depth. As for continuing the best offense in the league... Yeah against the Jets and Panthers. And what's embarrassing about that in terms of depth? The Jets made their offense flow through a rookie rb, and the Panthers managed to shut down the entire offense outside Pickens... Literally exactly what a team without depth does. Williams didn't even have running room with the defense absolutely not afraid of the other Wrs. Genuinely don't know how you look at the two games without CD and see anything but a team that is severely handicapped by its lack of depth at the wr position.

I've asked for this multiple times - what's a piece of depth the cowboys have at wr? I don't know why this question seems to keep getting glossed over. To me it seems to be key to the entire argument - and I have to believe the reason you keep ignoring it is because you know that Turpin et all isn't quality depth.

I like how rb depth matters... Until it doesn't. Sanders was a selling point two posts up, but now a backup isn't hard to get at rb... So everyone has similar depth and it's not worth mentioning.

I have yet to talk about the defense. I don't know why you keep bringing it up. It's totally irrelevant to the offensive depth that the cowboys absolutely lack.

It seems like you have the biggest issue with our WR depth, but having 2 studs counts as part of your depth. We also have a decent gadget guy in Turpin and a very underrated WR in Ryan Flournoy. Flournoy had over a 100 yards in a game filling in for CeeDee. He's really smooth. Nobody knows about him because CeeDee/Pickens represent 90% of our production at the position. It's not his fault. Tolbert is a strong WR5. He had a great catch to help us win one of the games we were without CeeDee. Most WR5s are strictly ST players. We're deep at WR.

When you produce elite numbers as an offense missing one of the best WRs in the league, several starting OL, and your top COP back, you've got good depth and that's not something that's negotiable. And I haven't even highlighted our premier OL depth and solid backup QB/TE options. You act like Blue is a terrible RB3. Lots of people were high on him. Same with Mafah. We lost Sanders so Blue moved up a notch. He's got legit upside, especially as a RB3, but it's the easiest position to find a productive backup if Jerry thinks we need to upgrade.

I think you're struggling with this because you aren't familiar with Dallas' roster. I'm assuming you aren't a Cowboys fan. Like I said, this isn't hard. By the way, I didn't mention the D because of your benefit....just wanted to make some comments about how it could affect our offense.

Not sure what to tell you. If you still think we aren't deep...that's ok, lol.

 

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