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Chase Stuart

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Dallas has outscored New York (N), Miami, Chicago, St. Louis and Buffalo 54-49 in the first halves of games this year. Those five teams have a 6-14 record in games not against Dallas this year.

Does this mean anything?

 
It would seem to indicate Dallas doesn't play that well in the 1st half against below average teams. More of a 2nd half team.

Considering NE builds a good lead in the first half (correct me if I'm wrong) it could mean a mountain to climb for Dallas going into the 2nd half this week.

 
Dallas has outscored New York (N), Miami, Chicago, St. Louis and Buffalo 54-49 in the first halves of games this year. Those five teams have a 6-14 record in games not against Dallas this year.

Does this mean anything?
Yeah, it means theyre gonna be in trouble when they face a 5-0 team that's outscored their own miserable collection of opponents 92-21 in the 1st half of their games. NE's 1st half leads -

14-7

24-0

17-7

17-7

20-0

I dont know exactly what that means either. I think it just means theyre pretty good.

 
Dallas has outscored New York (N), Miami, Chicago, St. Louis and Buffalo 54-49 in the first halves of games this year. Those five teams have a 6-14 record in games not against Dallas this year.

Does this mean anything?
It would mean quite a bit if the games were over after 2 quarters.
 
By the way Chase, as a stat guru you may be aware of this, and this is kindof unbelievable, but New England has scored 92pts in the 1st half of games. And 90 in 2nd halves. ridiculous scoring balance.

 
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This is what it means. If Dallas keeps it with in 7 points going into half they have a great chance of winning. It seems Jason Garrett makes real good adjustments to what is being done to stop them in the first half. It is very big problem for Dallas coming into this game cause if they get behind to the fast starting Pats it could get messy. I think Romo will bounce back and we could see some trick plays early for Dallas like a flea flicker or double reverse back to Romo for a long bomb to try and get things going early for Dallas. :goodposting:

This at very least will be fun to watch to see what happens.

 
I would be cautious about over-emphasizing such a small sample size. The Bears have been getting creamed in the 2nd half of games (and especially the 4th quarter). Sunday night, against the 4-0 Packers they outscored them 20-3 in the 2nd half and 10-0 in the 4th quarter.

I do agree that it is interesting that Dallas seems to play "down" to their competition in the 1st half. This could also be a function of Julius Jones tiring out defenses early and MBIII ramming it down the opposing team's tired throats later - or good halftime adjustments, as already posted.

 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.

 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
 
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the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
 
It's all about having time to study film and make adjustments. I live in Dallas and listen to sports radio and they claim that they are simply coming out cautious, feeling out the opponent and then really opening up the O in the second half. BS. They have been making great corrections at the half, something that all great teams do. Their inability to score in the 1st half should be the number 1 issue on every Cowboy fan's mind right behind their putrid defense. Instead the Cowboy homers are too busy gushing over the Jedi knight Tony Romo to realize that there might be a problem.

For a case study check out Chicago's D. They're normally solid until the half then get killed the rest of the game. It's not a matter of being tired, it's a matter of being outcoached. Chicago has been notoriously slow to make adjustments and I was hoping it would be fixed with the release of Ron Rivera.

 
could I ask why you'd look at stats from miami, st louis, buffalo's 3rd string, etc, and project them out onto new england?

 
Dallas has outscored New York (N), Miami, Chicago, St. Louis and Buffalo 54-49 in the first halves of games this year. Those five teams have a 6-14 record in games not against Dallas this year.

Does this mean anything?
Witten said something about them rarely scoring in the first Q this year after the game. After this post I'm wonderring how great their 2nd Q scores have been
 
Team 1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q Total

Dallas (5-0-0) « 0 10 3 12 25

Buffalo (1-4-0) 7 10 7 0 24

St. Louis (0-4-0) 0 7 0 0 7 14

Dallas (4-0-0) « 0 14 21 0 35

Dallas (3-0-0) « 0 3 14 17 34

Chicago (1-2-0) 3 0 7 0 10

Dallas (2-0-0) « 3 7 10 17 37

Miami (0-2-0) 3 3 7 7 20

NY Giants (0-1-0) 6 10 3 16 35

Dallas (1-0-0) « 3 14 14 14 45

First half TD's - 6

Second half TD's - 14

First half points - 54

Second half points - 122

Sorry the formatting didn't work out so well. Don't get me wrong though, it's great to be able to roll up points in a victory. I'm just still not convinced that they are as potent as they look on paper. That said I would still rank them no lower than 3rd best O in the league.

 
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Dallas has outscored New York (N), Miami, Chicago, St. Louis and Buffalo 54-49 in the first halves of games this year. Those five teams have a 6-14 record in games not against Dallas this year.

Does this mean anything?
This is great info for doing first quarter and first half wagering.
 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
I agree Dallas will most likely be in big trouble if they play the way they have played all year. Which is start slowly. On the other hand NE is not perfect and they will play a bad game sometime this season. I think allot of people just think they are going to buzz saw through everyone this year. IT WON'T HAPPEN. They will lose 1-3 games, maybe not this week but it is highly possible. Anyone remember Indy at Dallas last year. Who was INDY'S first loss.. I was there Dallas pounded Manning all day. The stadium was rocking and it played a HUGE factor in the game.
 
It's all about having time to study film and make adjustments. I live in Dallas and listen to sports radio and they claim that they are simply coming out cautious, feeling out the opponent and then really opening up the O in the second half. BS. They have been making great corrections at the half, something that all great teams do. Their inability to score in the 1st half should be the number 1 issue on every Cowboy fan's mind right behind their putrid defense. Instead the Cowboy homers are too busy gushing over the Jedi knight Tony Romo to realize that there might be a problem.For a case study check out Chicago's D. They're normally solid until the half then get killed the rest of the game. It's not a matter of being tired, it's a matter of being outcoached. Chicago has been notoriously slow to make adjustments and I was hoping it would be fixed with the release of Ron Rivera.
I agree that the first half thing is the biggest problem Dallas has right now. I am not sure why you think the Dallas D is "putrid".I think they are far from that. I believe this might be the first game Henry and Newman start at corner together this season. Not sure if Henry is a go though.. Anyone have that info?
 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
I agree Dallas will most likely be in big trouble if they play the way they have played all year. Which is start slowly. On the other hand NE is not perfect and they will play a bad game sometime this season. I think allot of people just think they are going to buzz saw through everyone this year. IT WON'T HAPPEN. They will lose 1-3 games, maybe not this week but it is highly possible. Anyone remember Indy at Dallas last year. Who was INDY'S first loss.. I was there Dallas pounded Manning all day. The stadium was rocking and it played a HUGE factor in the game.
Manning also had 3 TDs and 7 picks in the playoffs last year, so he's had a history of shriveling up quite often in bigger games. Not shocking that Dallas would force him into a bad day. Brady not so much. Two tidbits - Tom Brady, 27-2 all-time on turf. Randy Moss, 6-0 all-time vs the Cowboys with 10TDs. Meaningless hyperbole or telling stats?? New England will lose some time this year. I just dont see it happening this week with Dallas coming off a short week of rest and preparation, having just played such a huge, emotionally draining game.
 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
I agree Dallas will most likely be in big trouble if they play the way they have played all year. Which is start slowly. On the other hand NE is not perfect and they will play a bad game sometime this season. I think allot of people just think they are going to buzz saw through everyone this year. IT WON'T HAPPEN. They will lose 1-3 games, maybe not this week but it is highly possible. Anyone remember Indy at Dallas last year. Who was INDY'S first loss.. I was there Dallas pounded Manning all day. The stadium was rocking and it played a HUGE factor in the game.
Manning also had 3 TDs and 7 picks in the playoffs last year, so he's had a history of shriveling up quite often in bigger games. Not shocking that Dallas would force him into a bad day. Brady not so much. Two tidbits - Tom Brady, 27-2 all-time on turf. Randy Moss, 6-0 all-time vs the Cowboys with 10TDs. Meaningless hyperbole or telling stats?? New England will lose some time this year. I just dont see it happening this week with Dallas coming off a short week of rest and preparation, having just played such a huge, emotionally draining game.
Here are a couple other meaningless stats for you or are the telling.Wade Phillips is 3-1 vs BBNE is 0-4 in DallasWhat happened to Brady in the second half vs Indy last season. It can happen. Contrary to many people beliefs Brady is a not God.
 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
I agree Dallas will most likely be in big trouble if they play the way they have played all year. Which is start slowly. On the other hand NE is not perfect and they will play a bad game sometime this season. I think allot of people just think they are going to buzz saw through everyone this year. IT WON'T HAPPEN. They will lose 1-3 games, maybe not this week but it is highly possible. Anyone remember Indy at Dallas last year. Who was INDY'S first loss.. I was there Dallas pounded Manning all day. The stadium was rocking and it played a HUGE factor in the game.
Manning also had 3 TDs and 7 picks in the playoffs last year, so he's had a history of shriveling up quite often in bigger games. Not shocking that Dallas would force him into a bad day. Brady not so much. Two tidbits - Tom Brady, 27-2 all-time on turf. Randy Moss, 6-0 all-time vs the Cowboys with 10TDs. Meaningless hyperbole or telling stats?? New England will lose some time this year. I just dont see it happening this week with Dallas coming off a short week of rest and preparation, having just played such a huge, emotionally draining game.
Here are a couple other meaningless stats for you or are the telling.Wade Phillips is 3-1 vs BBNE is 0-4 in DallasWhat happened to Brady in the second half vs Indy last season. It can happen. Contrary to many people beliefs Brady is a not God.
 
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
I agree Dallas will most likely be in big trouble if they play the way they have played all year. Which is start slowly. On the other hand NE is not perfect and they will play a bad game sometime this season. I think allot of people just think they are going to buzz saw through everyone this year. IT WON'T HAPPEN. They will lose 1-3 games, maybe not this week but it is highly possible. Anyone remember Indy at Dallas last year. Who was INDY'S first loss.. I was there Dallas pounded Manning all day. The stadium was rocking and it played a HUGE factor in the game.
Manning also had 3 TDs and 7 picks in the playoffs last year, so he's had a history of shriveling up quite often in bigger games. Not shocking that Dallas would force him into a bad day. Brady not so much. Two tidbits - Tom Brady, 27-2 all-time on turf. Randy Moss, 6-0 all-time vs the Cowboys with 10TDs. Meaningless hyperbole or telling stats?? New England will lose some time this year. I just dont see it happening this week with Dallas coming off a short week of rest and preparation, having just played such a huge, emotionally draining game.
Here are a couple other meaningless stats for you or are the telling.Wade Phillips is 3-1 vs BBNE is 0-4 in DallasWhat happened to Brady in the second half vs Indy last season. It can happen. Contrary to many people beliefs Brady is a not God.
Brady 24 wins 1 loss all-time in regular season games on turf. Noone here says anyone is a god. But a 24-1 record in a specific setting? are you kidding me? thats kindof ridiculous.
 
Chase, Any idea what Wade Phillips career record is vs. Bill Belichick?
Got a question for you NE fans. How fun is it to have everyone hating on your team week in week out? Having these kinda discussions every week? Good stuff. That is when you know your team is good.
 
Chase, Any idea what Wade Phillips career record is vs. Bill Belichick?
Got a question for you NE fans. How fun is it to have everyone hating on your team week in week out? Having these kinda discussions every week? Good stuff. That is when you know your team is good.
Its fun, you know. Dallas fans = NE fans. sortof.
To a degree yeah we are the same, the difference is Dallas is hated for not only being a good team which they have not been in a long while also they are hated when they are bad. Either way enjoy the jealous knocks at your team I know I do.GO Cowboys!!
 
MustangMan,

As a guy who grew up watching NE as an AWFUL team, it's great! I especially love Jets fans and getting them all riled up.

Cowboys fans are not as fun though because they just plug their ears and say "How Bout Them Cowboys."

Steelers, Jets, Eagles, and sometimes Dolphins fans hear you better and for this small blip of time in history of sports, Boston is the #1 enemy. It's alot of fun.

It probably helps that most of those teams are from the northeast part of the country so the rivalry is deeper.

Chargers fans are amusing. Cocky, brash, and confident and then suddenly they wilted just like their team.

I'm looking forward to this Cowboys game but you can tell it means more to the media than the actual teams.

 
Sorry the formatting didn't work out so well. Don't get me wrong though, it's great to be able to roll up points in a victory. I'm just still not convinced that they are as potent as they look on paper. That said I would still rank them no lower than 3rd best O in the league.
Have you seen them play? With the exception of this past week's game vs Buffalo, they have played very good football. Disciplined, poised, balanced and executed nicely on offence and defense. Now they have the record to back it up too. They don't have to blow out their opponents, just beat them and they have done that to the tune of 5-0. That's pretty impressive if you ask me. Granted, they are not in the same league as a 5-0 New England of a 5-0 Indy team but they are still a very good team that is playing well.
the halftime adjustments will definitely be something to keep an eye on. Isnt Garrett basically a 1st year O coordinator calling plays for Dallas? Expecting him to go the locker room at the half and out smart Belichick is asking alot. Not that he cant do it. I just wouldnt count on it.
From what I have heard from interviews with Cowboys (and an interview with Troy Aikman), they say it's not the case of halftime adjustments... it's just better execution in the second half than the first.
It takes them a full half of football in games to get their execution tight? That might work against Buffalo, Chicago and some other teams. If theyre not hitting on all cylinders out of the gate against New England, theyre gonna be in trouble.
I agree Dallas will most likely be in big trouble if they play the way they have played all year. Which is start slowly. On the other hand NE is not perfect and they will play a bad game sometime this season. I think allot of people just think they are going to buzz saw through everyone this year. IT WON'T HAPPEN. They will lose 1-3 games, maybe not this week but it is highly possible. Anyone remember Indy at Dallas last year. Who was INDY'S first loss.. I was there Dallas pounded Manning all day. The stadium was rocking and it played a HUGE factor in the game.
Manning also had 3 TDs and 7 picks in the playoffs last year, so he's had a history of shriveling up quite often in bigger games. Not shocking that Dallas would force him into a bad day. Brady not so much. Two tidbits - Tom Brady, 27-2 all-time on turf. Randy Moss, 6-0 all-time vs the Cowboys with 10TDs. Meaningless hyperbole or telling stats?? New England will lose some time this year. I just dont see it happening this week with Dallas coming off a short week of rest and preparation, having just played such a huge, emotionally draining game.
Here are a couple other meaningless stats for you or are the telling.Wade Phillips is 3-1 vs BBNE is 0-4 in DallasWhat happened to Brady in the second half vs Indy last season. It can happen. Contrary to many people beliefs Brady is a not God.
I don't think anyone believes that Brady is God but if you ask around, he can play QB better than God and I don't think you'll find too many people that disagree with that. A few other things to consider (1) Brady has developed and matured as a QB more than anyone could have expected (2) NE has a great supporting cast and their offense, unlike last year, is more than just Tom Brady on on side and the Defense on the other. They have a solid team on both sides of the ball and at every position. With that being said, I think this is going to be one of the three toughest games for NE this year but I don't think Dallas has what it takes to go out and win. (the other tough games are Miami and Indy)They can't keep up in a shoot out. They can't keep up defensively. They won't be able to put enough pressure on Brady to throw him off his game. Dallas is the best team they face so far this season, yet I don't that they'll even be able to challenge NE the way Cleveland did last week.
 
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Interestingly enough, Dallas and New England have only played once in the last 11 years. It was 11/16/03 @ NE with Parcells as HC and New England won 12-0. No recent history of any matchups in Dallas. The last time was 12/15/96 and Dallas won 12-6. So head-to-head matchup history with the teams doesnt really offer much.

I love the head-to-head between Belichick and Phillips, with WP holding the 3-1 edge. Im sure BB is aware of that. But I doubt there's any personal motivation there.

The Randy Moss #s are the most fun. In 6 career matchups against Dallas dating back to his rookie season, Moss has 29 catches for 675yds and 10TDs with 6 wins and no losses. I had heard he always had somewhat of a vendetta against the Cowboys for not drafting him, but those #s are crazy. Here's the breakdown.

11/26/98 @Dal 46-36 W 3rec 163yds 3TDs

11/8/99 @Min 27-17W 6rec 91yds 2TDs

1/9/00 @Min 27-10W 5rec 127yds 1TD (playoffs)

11/23/00 @Dal 27-15W 7rec 144yds 2TDs

9/12/04 @Min 35-17W 4rec 27yds 2TDs

10/2/05 @Oak 19-13W 4rec 123yds 0TDs

How his history translates to the upcoming matchup is open to interpretation. It may be irrelevant. But those are some stunning results against one specific team.

 
MustangMan, As a guy who grew up watching NE as an AWFUL team, it's great! I especially love Jets fans and getting them all riled up. Cowboys fans are not as fun though because they just plug their ears and say "How Bout Them Cowboys." Steelers, Jets, Eagles, and sometimes Dolphins fans hear you better and for this small blip of time in history of sports, Boston is the #1 enemy. It's alot of fun.It probably helps that most of those teams are from the northeast part of the country so the rivalry is deeper. Chargers fans are amusing. Cocky, brash, and confident and then suddenly they wilted just like their team. I'm looking forward to this Cowboys game but you can tell it means more to the media than the actual teams.
This game means more to Dallas then NE by far. With that said I just hope TO keeps his mouth shut and does not give NE any locker room material. Just go out and do your thing TO.
 
One thing I hope Garrett noticed about the Buffalo game. They seamed to get their LB'S very deep in coverage thus giving Romo allot of trouble. I hope Garrett noticed and does some throws to the flat and short over the middle to gain 4-5 yards and stop them lb's from dropping so far. Dallas likes the medium pass allot and throws down field way more then most teams. I think that is the only way they can stop this from happening. Their running game is not going to scare the Pats from dropping them backers back without hesitation.

 
One thing I know will happen and that will be BB making sure TO does not go off. He is smart and knows that will cause TO to get crazy. If Dallas is smart they will realize this and use it to their advantage. Go away from Owens early and do not force feed the game plan to him. Crayton will see single coverage, go that way and make them adjust to you. Also bring TO across the field to get him the ball short. Once he gets two feet on the ground running he is hard to bring down. RAC will be huge vs NE. Be patient.

 
One thing I know will happen and that will be BB making sure TO does not go off. He is smart and knows that will cause TO to get crazy. If Dallas is smart they will realize this and use it to their advantage. Go away from Owens early and do not force feed the game plan to him. Crayton will see single coverage, go that way and make them adjust to you. Also bring TO across the field to get him the ball short. Once he gets two feet on the ground running he is hard to bring down. RAC will be huge vs NE. Be patient.
this is an interesting thought. NE gave up about 130yds to TO in the Superbowl a couple of years ago, but they kept him from scoring which was the key. So, he'll probably still put up some #s. He's too good to stop if Dallas decides to go to him. But Im pretty impressed with Dallas winning the past 2 weeks without TO really doing much. He's only had 5 catches for 50something yds and no scores. They have such balance throughout that O, that a # of other guys can kill you. So, defending these guys is a seriously tall task. It really should be a high scoring game.
 
It means that Dallas has a large offensive and defensive line that wears on teams and in the 2nd half of games, it really starts to take a toll.

I may mean that Dallas doesn't come out with a sense of urgency because they have a cockiness about them where they play with their prey like a cat bats around a miss until finally they get bored and just demolish it.

It may mean they're just not that good and barely better than the below average teams they're playing and the ball is bouncing their way in the 2nd half of games.

I don't know......what I do know is we'll find out a lot on Sunday.

 
I'd love to believe that Dallas can get a win against the Pats this week, but to do so they'll have to play the best football they've played all year by far. I'm not sure they have enough in the tank to manage it, but that's why they play the games.

As for Dallas D being "putrid" though, I think its a bit early to apply that label. The D has given up only 1 TD in the past 12 quarters, and none the past 2 weeks. Granted they haven't played anybody with a hot offense yet, so how well they perform this weekend should tell us a lot more. If they can slow down the NE scoring parade then you'd have to start taking them more seriously. If they can't, then they'd appear to be in the same boat as pretty much every other team's D.

 

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