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Deep Sleeper (1 Viewer)

Alwazefun

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I know everyone is caught up in the undervalued/sleeper rookies right now. Lets hear who you are stashing in leagues with super deep rosters. Im not talking about the Pierre Thomas, Laurent Robinsons, Robert Meachems, etc ... that are rostered in a lot leagues with even medium rosters. Im talking more along the lines of Brian Calhoun, Derek Hagan, etc .... Guys who have for whatever reason have not had their chance(or underperformed), but still have an outside chance of blowing up if the "stars align right" for them.

 
Mike Walker - WR - Jags

Jason Hill - WR - 49ers

Chad Jackson - WR - Pats (Maybe it's just time to give up though)

Chris Taylor - RB - Texans

Jerome Harrison - RB - Browns.

TJ Duckett - RB - Seahawks

Legedu Naanee - WR - Chargers

 
WR Chansi Stucki- NY Jets

Hurt entire regular season, but showed flashes of brilliance in the preseason prior to injury making athletic grabs all over the place (including the end zone).

 
Mike Walker - WR - JagsJason Hill - WR - 49ersChad Jackson - WR - Pats (Maybe it's just time to give up though)Chris Taylor - RB - TexansJerome Harrison - RB - Browns.TJ Duckett - RB - SeahawksLegedu Naanee - WR - Chargers
I have seen a few people with Jerome Harrison stashed ... what am I missing(college or preseason standout)?
 
Mike Walker - WR - Jags

Jason Hill - WR - 49ers

Chad Jackson - WR - Pats (Maybe it's just time to give up though)

Chris Taylor - RB - Texans

Jerome Harrison - RB - Browns.

TJ Duckett - RB - Seahawks

Legedu Naanee - WR - Chargers
I have seen a few people with Jerome Harrison stashed ... what am I missing(college or preseason standout)?
You aren't missing anything. He's a deep-sleeper for a reason. My keeping an eye on the guy is less a thumbs up for Harrison himself than a thumbs down for Cleveland's backfield. Was listed at 196 at the combine a couple of years ago and is currently listed at 210. I honestly haven't seen much of the guy (who has?) but last year the Browns passing offense improved enough that I could see a MJD Jr. begin to emerge for the Browns this year. Here's his bio from Football's Future back in '06.------------------------------------------------------------

NFL Combine Stats: 40-yard dash - 4.47, 225 bench press - 19 reps, vertical jump - 34.5"

Jerome Harrison became a Cougar after a standout career at Pasadena(CA) City College. Despite playing for a poor team, Harrison managed to rush for 1,849 yards with 19 touchdowns in two seasons at PCC. He moved on to Washington St. and had a very solid junior season, rushing for 900 yards and nine touchdowns. Nobody anticipated the breakout, All American season he had this year though. Harrison led the nation in rushing with 1,900 yards and 16 touchdowns, and added 206 yards and one touchdown on 24 receptions.

Harrison has very good quickness and is one of the quickest backs in this draft out of the blocks. His initial burst to the hole is excellent. He displays the ability to cut and make people miss once in the open field, and the ability to turn the corner for the big run. While not a power back, he always keeps his feet moving and does not go down on first contact. Harrison also shows the ability to be a threat out of the backfield as a receiver.

The only glaring weakness in Harrison’s game is his lack of size. He was measured in at just 5’9 196 at the Senior Bowl in January. He runs tough, but his lack of bulk and strength may prevent him from being an everydown back at the next level.

Harrison’s huge senior campaign has put his name on everyone’s radar. He has a lot of talent, but his lack of size limits his potential at the next level. He looks to have the capability of being a very good third down back at the next level. With his success during the season and Senior Bowl, Harrison should hear his name called in the third to fourth round area.

 
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Keep your eye on a few of the Chiefs' receivers. Down the road, they could become a great value. Devard Darling, Jeff Webb, etc.

 
RB Gary Russell, but only if you can hold for a while. He is buried in Pittsburgh, but there was a lot of good things said about him prior to the draft. He was a beast in college. My feeling is that he would have been a big part of the Steeler offense had Mendenhall not fallen in their lap. Russell has talent, but a terrible situation.

 
FWIW, Deep sleepers I have rostered in my large league:

Matt Moore, CAR QB

David Ball, CHI WR

Devone Bess, MIA WR

Steve Breaston, ARI WR

Jerome Mathis, WAS WR

Ben Patrick, ARI TE

Legedu Naanee, SDC WR

I'll probably drop Mathis, Ball, and Patrick or Breaston soon

 
FWIW, Deep sleepers I have rostered in my large league:Matt Moore, CAR QBDavid Ball, CHI WRDevone Bess, MIA WRSteve Breaston, ARI WRJerome Mathis, WAS WRBen Patrick, ARI TELegedu Naanee, SDC WRI'll probably drop Mathis, Ball, and Patrick or Breaston soon
Mathis was just cut by the Redskins.
 
FWIW, Deep sleepers I have rostered in my large league:Matt Moore, CAR QBDavid Ball, CHI WRDevone Bess, MIA WRSteve Breaston, ARI WRJerome Mathis, WAS WRBen Patrick, ARI TELegedu Naanee, SDC WRI'll probably drop Mathis, Ball, and Patrick or Breaston soon
Mathis was just cut by the Redskins.
Not surprising, given their draft. He will land somewhere, but like I said, I'll probably drop him.
 
Todd Watkins, Raiders.

Right now, he's just a guy, probably not even worth rostering, but made some noise at OTA's, and with Javon Walker and Ron Curry as injury risks, and JL Higgins better suited to the slot, if Watkins makes the team, he could be starting before too long.

 
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Will add:Doug Gabriel
He has been in the league since 2003, with only 12 starts and 101 receptions. I'll pass.Josh Johnson, as others have mentioned. Amazing stats in college, has as much talent as any qb in the 2008 class.
He's been in Oakland his entire career with the exception of one year in NE. He's now in Cincy. Henry is gone, CJ may possibly hold out, and even TJ may have some issues. Jerome Simpson is his only other competition. Given Palmer's ability and his deep play threat as well as possible chance at playing time, it's POSSIBLE he could surprise. As a Raider, he had two 100 yd games in 2005 and with NE had a few solid games as well.Yes, he's a DEEP sleeper.
 
FWIW, Deep sleepers I have rostered in my large league:

Matt Moore, CAR QB

David Ball, CHI WR

Devone Bess, MIA WR

Steve Breaston, ARI WR

Jerome Mathis, WAS WR

Ben Patrick, ARI TE

Legedu Naanee, SDC WR

I'll probably drop Mathis, Ball, and Patrick or Breaston soon
Mathis was just cut by the Redskins.
Not surprising, given their draft. He will land somewhere, but like I said, I'll probably drop him.
shhhhh... I'm hoping to grab him with my last pick in this years draft. Last year I grabbed Selvin Young with that pick.
 
Will add:

Doug Gabriel
He has been in the league since 2003, with only 12 starts and 101 receptions. I'll pass.Josh Johnson, as others have mentioned. Amazing stats in college, has as much talent as any qb in the 2008 class.
He's been in Oakland his entire career with the exception of one year in NE. He's now in Cincy. Henry is gone, CJ may possibly hold out, and even TJ may have some issues. Jerome Simpson is his only other competition. Given Palmer's ability and his deep play threat as well as possible chance at playing time, it's POSSIBLE he could surprise. As a Raider, he had two 100 yd games in 2005 and with NE had a few solid games as well.Yes, he's a DEEP sleeper.
Andre Caldwell?
 
The guy I like as a DEEP sleeper (because I am a homer) is Bobby Wade - in PPR leagues. I think he will have a good year as the slot guy, with Berrian and Rice getting all the attention. Nothing top 10 but is on the waiver wire in most leagues and will be a good WR3 option for your team.

 
Will add:

Doug Gabriel
He has been in the league since 2003, with only 12 starts and 101 receptions. I'll pass.Josh Johnson, as others have mentioned. Amazing stats in college, has as much talent as any qb in the 2008 class.
He's been in Oakland his entire career with the exception of one year in NE. He's now in Cincy. Henry is gone, CJ may possibly hold out, and even TJ may have some issues. Jerome Simpson is his only other competition. Given Palmer's ability and his deep play threat as well as possible chance at playing time, it's POSSIBLE he could surprise. As a Raider, he had two 100 yd games in 2005 and with NE had a few solid games as well.Yes, he's a DEEP sleeper.
Andre Caldwell?
Urritia could be the most talented out of all 3 rookies
 
Will add:

Doug Gabriel
He has been in the league since 2003, with only 12 starts and 101 receptions. I'll pass.Josh Johnson, as others have mentioned. Amazing stats in college, has as much talent as any qb in the 2008 class.
He's been in Oakland his entire career with the exception of one year in NE. He's now in Cincy. Henry is gone, CJ may possibly hold out, and even TJ may have some issues. Jerome Simpson is his only other competition. Given Palmer's ability and his deep play threat as well as possible chance at playing time, it's POSSIBLE he could surprise. As a Raider, he had two 100 yd games in 2005 and with NE had a few solid games as well.Yes, he's a DEEP sleeper.
Andre Caldwell?
Urritia could be the most talented out of all 3 rookies
Very possible. But if CJ isn't on the field, Gabriel has 3 rookies to worry about getting playing time. Could quite possibly start the year as the Bengals #2 WR (although very doubtful). Then again, that's why he's a sleeper :shrug:
 
Ben Obomanu

Roy Hall

Ryan Torain

Josh Johnson for sure

Jason Hill - Martz loves the deep drops and if the line can't hold the protection, Hill is a candidate for a Shaun McDonald-like year.. whoever ends up in the slot has that potential in PPR leagues, so if Johnson beats out Battle, then Battle could still be viable along with Hill.

Josh Cribbs

Chris Taylor

Chris Perry with a huge IF he is and can stay healthy.. (shrug)

Jalen Parmalee - do you really believe in Ricky? Ronnie is coming off an ACL.. I could see him emerge like an Earnest Graham, Kenny Watson or Kolby Smith in the 2nd half of the season if things the dominos fall right.

Mario Manningham - from a pure talent point of view, he looks like the successor to Toomer in my opinion. I've liked Steve Smith for a while, too, but Manningham is a better player if he puts the work in and plays to his potential.

Danny Woodhead - probably nothing here, but I just want to see him in the preseason. If Jones/Washington get hurt, he could get a shot. Yeh, I know Chatman is there but Woodhead is worth rostering in a deep dynasty league.

Cory Boyd / Ken Darby - Graham was solid but if he gets hurt, I don't think Caddy will be back and ready to handle a full load again (probably ever IMO). Dunn has slowed down and Bennett is not an every down back. Darby could emerge as a 3-down back if things fall right. Very long shot, but so are most of these players.

Paul Williams - the Titans didn't draft a WR or sign a marquee free agent WR for a reason. Heimerdinger says that Williams (and, gulp, Mike Williams) have come a long way in the off-season. Seeing is believing on the later, but Paul Williams has enough talent to stick and possibly do something here and so does the rookie Lavell Hawkins.

 
Mike Walker - WR - Jags

Jason Hill - WR - 49ers

Chad Jackson - WR - Pats (Maybe it's just time to give up though)

Chris Taylor - RB - Texans

Jerome Harrison - RB - Browns.

TJ Duckett - RB - Seahawks

Legedu Naanee - WR - Chargers
I have liked this kid since he came into the NFL. I'm not giving up hope until Belichick does. I believe the Pats jumped up pretty high in the second round to grab him a couple years ago and I think they will give him every opportunity to shine this year, even with all of their offensive weapons. He is someone I am keeping a very close eye on again this year.ETA: I don't think Jackson is that much of a really deep sleeper any more. There are a lot of us who are well aware of him. Case in point - he is being drafted much earlier than I had anticipated in the 16 team mock survivor drafts taking place over in the Mock Drafts R Us Forum. During Pre-Draft Survivor Leagues he had an ADP of 14.10 (218 overall) WR77, and during the Spring Survivor Leagues taking place right now he currently has an ADP of 16.01 (241) WR83 (with a high draft spot of 13.07 - WR76.)

 
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At the TE position:

Martrez Milner (I think he is the No. 1 rec option at TE over Hartsock)

Dante Rosario (may start over King, was starting over him at recent minicamp and came on strong last year)

 
Roy HallBIG WR, good speed, got hurt last year, plays in Indy
I'll second that.He was a big-play guy at Ohio State.
Statistics No Yds Avg TD 2006 13 147 11.3 2 2005 16 134 8.4 0 2004 17 230 13.5 1 2003 6 69 11.5 0 Halls college stats, were these big plays on kickoffs or defense, cause I don't see the receiving numbers here.
There's a reason games are televised. So you can "see" them.If you want to go by stats, you may as well be blind.
 
Raiders WR Arman Shields - coming off a knee injury he suffered last year playing for Richmond, but he lit it up at the combine:

Shields ranked as a top performer in each of the seven physical drills run during the Combine. He toasted the field in both the 20-yard and 60-yard shuttles, posting the only sub-four-second time in the 20-yard (3.96) and the only sub 11-second time in the 60-yard (10.87).His time in the 3-cone drill was second (6.67) as was his mark in the broad jump (10'8"). Shields was tied for second in the vertical jump (37'5"), posted the fourth-best mark in the bench press with 19 reps, while running the 40-yard dash in sixth-fastest time of 4.44.
There are a lot of question marks surrounding him - knee injury, playing for a non-D1 school - but he showed solid across the board talent and has good size (built similar to Chad Johnson at 6-1, 194).
11. What does do you think of combine standout/3 cone drill stud WR Arman Shields of Richmond?Rob Rang:The Combine -- at least the athletic drills portion of it -- was made to grab the attention of scouts for players like Shields -- those with legitimate talent that due to a small school background or injuries or some other reason, were not necessarily viewed as an elite prospect. In the specific case of Shields, the eye-popping results are indicative of his pure athleticism. At this point in his career, Shields is a better athlete than football player, as he drops too many passes and is a very marginal route-runner. However, after missing all but the first game of the 2007 season due to a knee injury, in proving he's healthy, Shields stock soared with his workout.
 
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Andy Herron said:
There's a reason games are televised. So you can "see" them.If you want to go by stats, you may as well be blind.
Disagree. I'll take the (right) stats over 999/1000 people's opinions about a guy they've watched.
 
Andy Herron said:
There's a reason games are televised. So you can "see" them.If you want to go by stats, you may as well be blind.
Disagree. I'll take the (right) stats over 999/1000 people's opinions about a guy they've watched.
I'm simply making a reference to what the old cliche' of "that won't show up in the stats/box score" means.If you don't happen to catch a great play (when televised and viewed), you'll never know it happened by reading stats. Much the same reason scouts go to games and watch miles of film.Stats tell you nothing in that regard.Do you honestly think the Colts spent a draft pick (5th round) on Hall due to these stats?Statistics No Yds Avg TD 2006 13 147 11.3 2 2005 16 134 8.4 0 2004 17 230 13.5 1 2003 6 69 11.5 0 Get serious.
 
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in dynasty,

keenan burton may have the opportunity to start in a few years... i think he has legit talent, but needs to stay healthy...

 
Here's a few of the sleepers I just got done drafting in a startup dynasty:

QB - Matt Moore, Troy Smith

RB - None

WR - Courtney Taylor, Ben Obomanu

TE - Ben Patrick

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Here's a few of the sleepers I just got done drafting in a startup dynasty:

QB - Matt Moore, Troy Smith

RB - None

WR - Courtney Taylor, Ben Obomanu

TE - Ben Patrick
i have both these guys stashed on my taxi squad. i was going to toss them out - especially taylor because he's getting some early buzz - if no one else did.
 
My list - most have already been mentioned, I have a couple new adds though...

Josh Johnson

Tyler Thigpen

Chris Taylor

Tim Hightower

Xavier Omon

Antonio Pittman

Ben Jarvus Green Ellis

Mike Walker

Jason Hill

Marques Hagans

Keenan Burton

Will Franklin

Logan Payne

Roy Hall

Harry Douglas

Danny Amendola

Jaymar Johnson

Martin Rucker

Joe Kolpfenstein

 
My list - most have already been mentioned, I have a couple new adds though...

Josh Johnson

Tyler Thigpen

Chris Taylor

Tim Hightower

Xavier Omon

Antonio Pittman

Ben Jarvus Green Ellis

Mike Walker

Jason Hill

Marques Hagans

Keenan Burton

Will Franklin

Logan Payne

Roy Hall

Harry Douglas

Danny Amendola

Jaymar Johnson

Greg Camirillo

Martin Rucker

Joe Kolpfenstein

Dereck Fine ® TE-BUF
These are a couple of "deep six" add-ons that aren't getting any attention. Camirillo is the probable #3 in MIA....maybe 50 catches worth and Fine is on zero radar units. BUF selectged Fine at the 4/34 pick (compensatory), #132 pick, a late pick admittedly....but he's got a real shot at starting come day #1.Every Dynasty League I'm in, if I can acquire Roy Hall by waiver wire, I add him to the roster. Dynasty owners that have Hall are reluctant to trade him because he's got all that "Latent UpSide Lotion" smeared all over him.


 
My list - most have already been mentioned, I have a couple new adds though...Josh JohnsonTyler ThigpenChris TaylorTim HightowerXavier OmonAntonio PittmanBen Jarvus Green EllisMike WalkerJason HillMarques HagansKeenan BurtonWill FranklinLogan PayneRoy HallHarry DouglasDanny AmendolaJaymar JohnsonMartin RuckerJoe Kolpfenstein
:shrug: thanks-- i'll have to come back and read about some of those guys!
 
Adrian Arrington- by 2009 either Meachum or Arrington should be the Saints #2 WR. Arrington received great reviews early in camp and can be had cheaper than Meachum.

Xavier Omon- could beat out Fred Jackson as the Bills back up RB and a Lynch injury or another miscue could open the door for him. He seems to have that "it" factor and may be worth holding onto even if it takes a few years of patience.

Andre Hall- on the surface he seems to be the odd man out with the new additions. With Shananagins in place he could have an impact at some point this year and is dirt cheap right now. Young is the favorite but remember that Shanahan stated that he will not be a full time back, Hall looked very good in limited action last year.

 
Honestly, I'd have to say Brandon Jackson for GB. He's almost a hand cuff to Grant. Not sure if that qualifies for this thread.

Good names out there. Just signed up for the deepest league I've ever seen, I'm going to need some help on finding the sleepers

 
Garrett Mills - NE couldn't get him to their practice squad last year. Didn't have time to learn the Vikes offense at that late in the game so he was inactive much of the season until w17 where he got a couple catches for 25 yds. Shiancoe was horrible with weak production and dropped passes. The Vikings didn't draft a TE either. Good TEs and running games go hand in hand AND the Vikes have a young QB who could benefit greatly from some quick releases. I see potential for Mills to become a receiving TE in this offense

pure speculation on my part

 

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