Denarius Moore (1 Viewer)

[Team Smokin']

Granted Carson Palmer throws it a lot. I know the Raaaaiderrrs want to involve Moore. Last week an anomaly? Throw in the return of Palmer to Cincinnati, a #5 D against WR's. I expect Cincinnati to be up for this game and I also expect Palmer to be throwing a lot. Moore has got to be a recipient, correct?

Moore has been a very good fantasy production player. Most rank him in the top 15 this week even higher, like a low-end #1. Or do we lower our expectations? 4-5 catches 60 yards and a .5 TD? That would be mid-level #2.

I see Footballguys have him fairly high to fairly low this week.

Is Moore bouncing back?

 

[mr roboto]

How many threads do we need?

 

[kegger]

For me this week it's a toss of the coin.

I have receivers ranked around him I'm going with instead.

(probably the wrong choice)

 

[Ace zero1]

1 catch for 20 and a td. Saved the day so far

 

[packersfan]

I'm officially very concerned. Not sure what's going on but Palmer and Moore haven't been on the same page for two games now. Palmer was atrocious yesterday so that certainly was a big part of it. I still like Moore's talent a lot but he's heading to the bench for me in Week 13 against Joe Haden.

 

[Ace zero1]

Yeah same here. Starting blacknon or ty over him.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Palmer had a very poor game. He's still on pace for a 4200 yard plus season. Every starting QB has one of those days, even the stud ones. Don't be so quick to think an outlier game like yesterday's debacle is a trend. Bench Moore at your own risk and certainly depending on your options. But stick it out with him as your WR3 and I think he will reward you going forward. That 20 yard TD certainly didn't hurt anybody who started him.

 

[packersfan]

Palmer had a very poor game. He's still on pace for a 4200 yard plus season. Every starting QB has one of those days, even the stud ones. Don't be so quick to think an outlier game like yesterday's debacle is a trend. Bench Moore at your own risk and certainly depending on your options. But stick it out with him as your WR3 and I think he will reward you going forward. That 20 yard TD certainly didn't hurt anybody who started him.

I agree. But I see two significant problems as they pertain to Moore's value for Week 13:1. He has only two receptions in the last two games. Granted, one of them went for a TD and that was great but there are clearly some serious issues going on with Palmer and Moore. It's also disconcerting that these issues occurred against one very weak pass defense (New Orleans) and another that's had issues in the secondary nearly the entire season (Cincinnati). 2. Joe Haden. In my opinion Haden is the premier cover CB in the league. He throttled Mike Wallace yesterday. Given the issues Palmer and Moore are having and since I would expect Haden to shadow Moore, I think Moore's value is looking poor for next week.Again, I like Moore a lot and I'm not giving up on him. But the last two games have me concerned and that plus an upcoming matchup against Haden will put him on my bench. I hope Moore does well there but I think he's way too risky to start next week if you have another viable option.

 

[Andrew74]

He's fallen to the bottom for me after these two weeks. I like him a lot in my dynasty, but at this point I'd rather start a player I can trust to get something.

 

[LawFitz]

Moore and Palmer have been out of sinc the last two weeks. Not sure if related, but Moore has also been dealing with a sore hammy around this same time frame. I would be very nervous to start him the next few weeks.

 

[-jb-]

Palmer had a very poor game. He's still on pace for a 4200 yard plus season. Every starting QB has one of those days, even the stud ones. Don't be so quick to think an outlier game like yesterday's debacle is a trend. Bench Moore at your own risk and certainly depending on your options. But stick it out with him as your WR3 and I think he will reward you going forward. That 20 yard TD certainly didn't hurt anybody who started him.

I agree. But I see two significant problems as they pertain to Moore's value for Week 13:1. He has only two receptions in the last two games. Granted, one of them went for a TD and that was great but there are clearly some serious issues going on with Palmer and Moore. It's also disconcerting that these issues occurred against one very weak pass defense (New Orleans) and another that's had issues in the secondary nearly the entire season (Cincinnati). 2. Joe Haden. In my opinion Haden is the premier cover CB in the league. He throttled Mike Wallace yesterday. Given the issues Palmer and Moore are having and since I would expect Haden to shadow Moore, I think Moore's value is looking poor for next week.Again, I like Moore a lot and I'm not giving up on him. But the last two games have me concerned and that plus an upcoming matchup against Haden will put him on my bench. I hope Moore does well there but I think he's way too risky to start next week if you have another viable option.

The Joe Haden thing was interesting to me, so I looked at the Browns box scores. Lots of opponents' WRs have had good days against them, so I'm not sure what you're seeing. Of course, that doesn't mean he won't put up a stinker. TY is going to start over him next week for me.

 

[billmatic]

Palmer had a very poor game. He's still on pace for a 4200 yard plus season. Every starting QB has one of those days, even the stud ones. Don't be so quick to think an outlier game like yesterday's debacle is a trend. Bench Moore at your own risk and certainly depending on your options. But stick it out with him as your WR3 and I think he will reward you going forward. That 20 yard TD certainly didn't hurt anybody who started him.

I agree. But I see two significant problems as they pertain to Moore's value for Week 13:1. He has only two receptions in the last two games. Granted, one of them went for a TD and that was great but there are clearly some serious issues going on with Palmer and Moore. It's also disconcerting that these issues occurred against one very weak pass defense (New Orleans) and another that's had issues in the secondary nearly the entire season (Cincinnati). 2. Joe Haden. In my opinion Haden is the premier cover CB in the league. He throttled Mike Wallace yesterday. Given the issues Palmer and Moore are having and since I would expect Haden to shadow Moore, I think Moore's value is looking poor for next week.Again, I like Moore a lot and I'm not giving up on him. But the last two games have me concerned and that plus an upcoming matchup against Haden will put him on my bench. I hope Moore does well there but I think he's way too risky to start next week if you have another viable option.

The Joe Haden thing was interesting to me, so I looked at the Browns box scores. Lots of opponents' WRs have had good days against them, so I'm not sure what you're seeing. Of course, that doesn't mean he won't put up a stinker. TY is going to start over him next week for me.

How many of those came when Haden was actually in the lineup? He's missed half their games. AJ had a big game against them and Maclin had a decent day back in week 1, but when Haden's been on the field their pass defense has been pretty good.

 

[packersfan]

I'd also toss out the A.J. Green matchups. I don't think there is a CB in the world who can cover that guy.

 

[-jb-]

Palmer had a very poor game. He's still on pace for a 4200 yard plus season. Every starting QB has one of those days, even the stud ones. Don't be so quick to think an outlier game like yesterday's debacle is a trend. Bench Moore at your own risk and certainly depending on your options. But stick it out with him as your WR3 and I think he will reward you going forward. That 20 yard TD certainly didn't hurt anybody who started him.

I agree. But I see two significant problems as they pertain to Moore's value for Week 13:1. He has only two receptions in the last two games. Granted, one of them went for a TD and that was great but there are clearly some serious issues going on with Palmer and Moore. It's also disconcerting that these issues occurred against one very weak pass defense (New Orleans) and another that's had issues in the secondary nearly the entire season (Cincinnati). 2. Joe Haden. In my opinion Haden is the premier cover CB in the league. He throttled Mike Wallace yesterday. Given the issues Palmer and Moore are having and since I would expect Haden to shadow Moore, I think Moore's value is looking poor for next week.Again, I like Moore a lot and I'm not giving up on him. But the last two games have me concerned and that plus an upcoming matchup against Haden will put him on my bench. I hope Moore does well there but I think he's way too risky to start next week if you have another viable option.

The Joe Haden thing was interesting to me, so I looked at the Browns box scores. Lots of opponents' WRs have had good days against them, so I'm not sure what you're seeing. Of course, that doesn't mean he won't put up a stinker. TY is going to start over him next week for me.

How many of those came when Haden was actually in the lineup? He's missed half their games. AJ had a big game against them and Maclin had a decent day back in week 1, but when Haden's been on the field their pass defense has been pretty good.

Good stuff, didn't know that.

 

[JFS171]

I'd agree on Haden - when he's played, he's been great, save the AJ Green matchup.

I'm avoiding Moore this upcoming week... just too much risk IMO.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Debating between Moore and Crabtree at WR3 for next week in a PPR league.

 

[Ace zero1]

I'm debating between Justin Blackmon and Moore.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Haden missed weeks 2-5 and 11? Is that right?

If so these are the opposing all WR stats vs Browns when active:

First: Last: Team Week CLE Result Target Rec Yard TD FFPts

Jeremy Maclin PHI 1 L 16-17 (h) 14 7 96 1 15.6

DeSean Jackson PHI 1 L 16-17 (h) 11 4 77 0 8.2

Jason Avant PHI 1 L 16-17 (h) 5 4 27 0 2.7

Damaris Johnson PHI 1 L 16-17 (h) 3 1 10 0 1.0

A.J. Green CIN 6 W 34-24 (h) 11 7 135 2 25.5

Andrew Hawkins CIN 6 W 34-24 (h) 5 5 35 0 3.7

Marvin Jones CIN 6 W 34-24 (h) 2 2 21 0 2.1

Armon Binns CIN 6 W 34-24 (h) 5 2 12 0 1.2

Brandon Tate CIN 6 W 34-24 (h) 2 1 11 0 1.1

Reggie Wayne IND 7 L 13-17 (a) 11 6 73 0 7.3

Donnie Avery IND 7 L 13-17 (a) 6 4 46 0 4.6

T.Y. Hilton IND 7 L 13-17 (a) 5 2 22 0 2.2

LaVon Brazill IND 7 L 13-17 (a) 1 0 0 0 0.0

Malcom Floyd SD 8 W 7-6 (h) 7 4 43 0 4.3

Danario Alexander SD 8 W 7-6 (h) 1 0 0 0 0.0

Robert Meachem SD 8 W 7-6 (h) 3 0 0 0 -0.6

Torrey Smith BAL 9 L 15-25 (h) 9 4 46 1 10.6

Anquan Boldin BAL 9 L 15-25 (h) 5 5 57 0 5.7

Jacoby Jones BAL 9 L 15-25 (h) 2 0 0 0 0.0

Emmanuel SandersPIT 12 W 20-14 (h) 6 5 75 0 7.5

Mike Wallace PIT 12 W 20-14 (h) 7 1 9 0 0.9

There are a couple good weeks in there but not any for a while... and one was AJ Green.

Not lovin' it this week for Moore at all.

 

[packersfan]

I think we can toss out the Sanders stats from this past week. Haden was all over Wallace and gave him nothing. In fact, that's one of the reasons Sanders had a good game. They couldn't get anything going with Wallace because of Haden.

Not sure yet who I'm sitting Moore for this week. All depends on how Waivers go tomorrow. I'm attempting to add Garcon, Broyles, Sanu or Kerley. I have all of them ranked ahead of Moore this week. I'll add Sanders to the list as well if it looks like Brown will miss another game.

 

[mr roboto]

Moore, Floyd or Gresham. Yuck

 

[Cookiemonster]

On a rebuild team, I have Blackmon, Shorts and Gordon starting over Moore this week. Would also have Little over Moore this week too. This week is just a big AVOID for him vs Haden and coming off two poor outings in a row.

 

[packersfan]

On a rebuild team, I have Blackmon, Shorts and Gordon starting over Moore this week. Would also have Little over Moore this week too. This week is just a big AVOID for him vs Haden and coming off two poor outings in a row.

I agree with all those except Little. He's been terrible this season.

 

[Cookiemonster]

On a rebuild team, I have Blackmon, Shorts and Gordon starting over Moore this week. Would also have Little over Moore this week too. This week is just a big AVOID for him vs Haden and coming off two poor outings in a row.

I agree with all those except Little. He's been terrible this season.

Actually, he's been much better over the last several weeks. Facing a terrible pass D, I'd play him over Moore this week.

 

[packersfan]

On a rebuild team, I have Blackmon, Shorts and Gordon starting over Moore this week. Would also have Little over Moore this week too. This week is just a big AVOID for him vs Haden and coming off two poor outings in a row.

I agree with all those except Little. He's been terrible this season.

Actually, he's been much better over the last several weeks. Facing a terrible pass D, I'd play him over Moore this week.

Looking at the last four weeks:Moore

1-20-1

1-9-0

4-90-1

4-66-0

Average: 2.5-46-.5

Little

1-6-0

3-53-0

5-52-0

2-28-0

Average: 2.75-35-0

Disagree that Little's been better. He clearly has the superior matchup this week and obviously anything can happen but Moore has been far more productive and consistent this week. I don't like Moore this week at all but I couldn't start Little ahead of him. Just my opinion.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Denarius Moore has the most TD receptions (6) as a Raider in a single season since...

...Jerry Porter, 2004.

Still: feeling sketchy about his prospects in the playoffs right now.

Closes:

13 CLE

14 DEN

15 KC

16 @CAR

Two straight games with one catch???

Going with Broyles, maybe Blackmon or Garcon.

 

[Team Smokin']

Wow, what happened? D Moore was on a nice run. I keep watching the play by play and Palmer throws to him a lot. Eventually he scores a TD. Yet 3 catches for 37 yards and one score will only net you 12.7 points in my league. That's if he scores. I don't trust The Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaiders.

Perhaps we will have to ride with the other Moore (Lance) in a shoot out on Thursday night And it will be a shootout

Denarius was working his way into a solid #1, high end #2, and now he's a serviceable #3 or flex

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Wow, what happened? D Moore was on a nice run. I keep watching the play by play and Palmer throws to him a lot. Eventually he scores a TD. Yet 3 catches for 37 yards and one score will only net you 12.7 points in my league. That's if he scores. I don't trust The Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaiders. Perhaps we will have to ride with the other Moore (Lance) in a shoot out on Thursday night And it will be a shootout Denarius was working his way into a solid #1, high end #2, and now he's a serviceable #3 or flex

Or droppable.That TD pass from Palmer was a great catch but basically Palmer threw off his back foot while falling back, ridiculous. Moore made a hell of a grab but he was lucky to get that. I almost think Palmer was half-trying to throw it away.

 

[cstu]

Wow, what happened? D Moore was on a nice run. I keep watching the play by play and Palmer throws to him a lot. Eventually he scores a TD. Yet 3 catches for 37 yards and one score will only net you 12.7 points in my league. That's if he scores. I don't trust The Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaiders. Perhaps we will have to ride with the other Moore (Lance) in a shoot out on Thursday night And it will be a shootout Denarius was working his way into a solid #1, high end #2, and now he's a serviceable #3 or flex

Palmer hardly looks for his WR's anymore and instead settles for throwing it to the RB's (88 catches!) or Myers (55 catches). The top 5 WR's have only caught 108 passes combined.

 

[Team Smokin']

Wow, what happened? D Moore was on a nice run. I keep watching the play by play and Palmer throws to him a lot. Eventually he scores a TD. Yet 3 catches for 37 yards and one score will only net you 12.7 points in my league. That's if he scores. I don't trust The Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaiders. Perhaps we will have to ride with the other Moore (Lance) in a shoot out on Thursday night And it will be a shootout Denarius was working his way into a solid #1, high end #2, and now he's a serviceable #3 or flex

Palmer hardly looks for his WR's anymore and instead settles for throwing it to the RB's (88 catches!) or Myers (55 catches). The top 5 WR's have only caught 108 passes combined.

Wow - is it because Palmer is feeling rushed for a quick outlet? His offensive line is not up to the task, or what? Palmer throws for a lot of yards, something must give? And D Moore is fast and the #1 WR weapon. I don't get it? Do the Raaaiders really suck that bad? McFadden was another HUGE disappointment!

 

[packersfan]

If we receive word that Haden won't shadow Moore and will stay on one side of the field then Moore definitely has a shot this week to regain his fantasy value. But if we hear that Haden plans to match up on Moore all over the field it's going to be extremely difficult to justify starting Moore.

 

[Team Smokin']

If we receive word that Haden won't shadow Moore and will stay on one side of the field then Moore definitely has a shot this week to regain his fantasy value. But if we hear that Haden plans to match up on Moore all over the field it's going to be extremely difficult to justify starting Moore.

Thank you! I keep hearing varying reports about Haden...

 

[kegger]

Anyone starting him this week, (pretty bad looking whether possibly as well)

If so who you starting him over?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Anyone starting him this week, (pretty bad looking whether possibly as well)If so who you starting him over?

in...over Gordon and Edelman.

 

[Sabertooth]

Benching him for T.Y. Hilton as of now.

 

[packersfan]

Originally had him benched for Sanu. Now benched for Givens.

I love Denarius but back-to-back 1-reception games and now Haden and I don't like his chances this week.

 

[flc735]

in over austin, antonio brown and DHB

 

[kegger]

I got the guy in 2 leagues, and I just can't make up my mind.

If it were not for the weather I'd be all in with him in 1 league.

But the weather reports are making me lean in another direction here.

Is anyone else downgrading because of weather?

 

[packersfan]

Is anyone else downgrading because of weather?

That's a factor for me but mostly it's about Haden. I'd probably be starting him against any other team this week.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I got the guy in 2 leagues, and I just can't make up my mind.If it were not for the weather I'd be all in with him in 1 league.But the weather reports are making me lean in another direction here. Is anyone else downgrading because of weather?

For what it's worth I've moved on to Broyles, Blackmon & Edelman.Now word that Pryor might get some snaps? Moore's been a cornerstone of my season .... There's nothing wrong with Den, love the talent, the effort is great, I think he's the best receiver they have and I like watching him play, but Palmer's getting pressured when he's not dumping off and he's missing him. And yes now the weather and Haden loom.

 

[kegger]

I got the guy in 2 leagues, and I just can't make up my mind.If it were not for the weather I'd be all in with him in 1 league.But the weather reports are making me lean in another direction here. Is anyone else downgrading because of weather?

For what it's worth I've moved on to Broyles, Blackmon & Edelman.Now word that Pryor might get some snaps? Moore's been a cornerstone of my season .... There's nothing wrong with Den, love the talent, the effort is great, I think he's the best receiver they have and I like watching him play, but Palmer's getting pressured when he's not dumping off and he's missing him. And yes now the weather and Haden loom.

Interesting your Blackmon & Edelman, that is 2 of the 4 I have in 1 league and play 3.The other 2 are D Moore, and Andrew Hawkins..So trying to decide between them, as now all are in over Moore, if it weren't for weatherI'd have Moore in for 1 of those guys and to decide which one, Blackmon I'm going with, just not so confident on the rest..

 

[mr roboto]

Benched for Malcolm Floyd as WR 4.

 

[packersfan]

Moore's been a cornerstone of my season .... There's nothing wrong with Den, love the talent, the effort is great, I think he's the best receiver they have and I like watching him play, but Palmer's getting pressured when he's not dumping off and he's missing him. And yes now the weather and Haden loom.

Moore has been my best WW pickup of the year and a big reason why I'm contending for my league title. I think he's a very talented player and he's made great strides as a WR this season. But even the best player have issues they can't overcome. Look at Larry Fitzgerald in Arizona. Not saying Moore is as good as Fitz (he isn't) but in the last two games Palmer has not been able to get the ball to him, he faces arguably the premier cover CB in the league in what could be a monsoon. I hope Moore does well on my bench and barring a major injury he'll be back in my starting lineup in Week 14 against the Broncos. But he sits this week. Just too many factors working against him in my opinion.

 

[Ace zero1]

I got Daniro and Blackmon playing over him. This week isn't good for him.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Im leaning to K wright or G Little over him.

Wright seems to put up points when Ten is down by a lot but then will get an early TD somtimes. He did ok against Hou last time too

G Little Has put up most of his points in Away games. Add that plus crappy raiders D and leaning on short passing game (if its windy) he may do ok

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Broyles over him with Harvin out. Not thinking twice. .5 ppr

 

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No PPR

Weather + Haden + downward trend= no play

Broyles / Hilton / Moore / Julio

Starting Julio and Broyles

 

[packersfan]

I'm now officially concerned. I didn't expect him to do well Sunday but I didn't expect Palmer to put up huge numbers and Moore have so little involvement again. I also did not expect Moore to be benched. Now comes Champ Bailey so Moore will be tough to start in Week 14. He may even be droppable in shallow leagues or ones with tight roster limits. I tend not to overreact to things like this but three straight low-production games and now a benching is a very disturbing trend.

 

[lod01]

I'm now officially concerned. I didn't expect him to do well Sunday but I didn't expect Palmer to put up huge numbers and Moore have so little involvement again. I also did not expect Moore to be benched. Now comes Champ Bailey so Moore will be tough to start in Week 14. He may even be droppable in shallow leagues or ones with tight roster limits. I tend not to overreact to things like this but three straight low-production games and now a benching is a very disturbing trend.

He's actually invloved but doing squat. Count me in the 'concerned' camp. 8 targets, 2 catches. Benched. BIG RED FLAG. Overall catch percentage of well under 50%. He's on my #### list and will be lucky to be on the team come Sunday morning. Once Plamer is gone, he really turns into a zero. Yeah, you read that right. Plamer.

 

[packersfan]

He's on my #### list and will be lucky to be on the team come Sunday morning.

I'm considering dropping him too which stinks because I really like him a lot. But it's crunch time now and there are some WRs on my league's WW who are outproducing him consistently. Even if I don't drop him he definitely won't start this week for me.

 

[Bucks1]

He has great wk 15 and 16 matchups, but hard to trust him.