Dennis Prager: campus sexual assaults are "lies to get votes" (1 Viewer)

[Gr00vus]

Winning votes with fake rapes? Somewhat creative angle to be sure.

His opponents might as well just sit back and enjoy it.

 

[kutta]

If people really are claiming that 1 in 5 women on college campuses are sexually assaulted, I have a hard time believing that.

That it's that low?

Lol

 

[NCCommish]

And here I've always kinda liked Prager. Don't agree with him much, but I found him to be one of the more thoughtful talk show hosts out there.

That is, until this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/29/dennis-prager-sexual-assault_n_6072092.html

Conservative radio host Dennis Prager claimed during a Republican get-out-the-vote rally in Sarasota, Fla., on Tuesday that the number of sexual assaults on college campuses has been exaggerated to win votes.“It’s a gargantuan lie to get votes," Prager said. "It’s as big a lie as the culture of rape on your campuses. What nonsense. There is a culture of rape on campuses run by the feminist left?” Prager addressed about 700 people at the rally, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune.Prager claimed that Democrats had trivialized rape by defining it too broadly. The Department of Justice defines sexual assault as “any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient.”"One in five women are sexually assaulted on campuses," Prager said. "Do you know what sexual assault means? Did you ever look at what counts? An unwanted kiss is considered sexual assault. I’m stunned it's only one in five. Four out of five women have not gotten an unwanted kiss? My wife gets unwanted kisses every so often.”

Oof.

Prager has always been a putz this is no surprise.

 

[Parrothead]

Winning votes with fake rapes? Somewhat creative angle to be sure.

His opponents might as well just sit back and enjoy it.

its just a snuggle with a struggle

 

[mcintyre1]

Interesting how 99% of these type of Tim threads are about conservatives. But there are no double standards here. It is always the conservative response which is thread worthy, not the possibility that maybe the Democrats might be over-exaggerating the issue with emotionally-charged language.

ETA: I am not familiar with this well-known talk-radio figure who dared to express an opinion.

Hey Jon, maybe conservatives (yourself included) should say fewer bat#### insane things? Then the ratio might be better.

 

[mr roboto]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

 

[NCCommish]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

 

[StrikeS2k]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

 

[mr roboto]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

I'm trying to avoid that discussion because I believe the truly bat #### crazy part of this is Prager's assertion that it leads to more votes for the Dems.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

Well they may be "really" raped but at least we know they can't get pregnant from it...because, you know, women's bodies can shut that #### right down when they get raped.

 

[NCCommish]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

 

[StrikeS2k]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

 

[jon_mx]

I agree with Prager.

Based on what exactly?

Calling it a "gargantuan lie to get votes" is ridiculous. But it is an effort to expand the definition so wide that things that should be considered harassment are being labeled as assault. And as that viral video shows, things that most people consider simple greetings are now being construed as harassment. I am sure things like date rape/assault are prevalent on college campuses and need to be taken seriously even using more conventional definitions. This seems to be an attempt by feminist to promote their cause by inflating statistics.

Assault is an unwanted touching. We're a changing society, it's not a bad thing.

The jails are not big enough.

 

[timschochet]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

Thank you for the compliment. I disagree with NC Commish a lot, but it's an honor to be compared to him.

 

[jon_mx]

Interesting how 99% of these type of Tim threads are about conservatives. But there are no double standards here. It is always the conservative response which is thread worthy, not the possibility that maybe the Democrats might be over-exaggerating the issue with emotionally-charged language.

ETA: I am not familiar with this well-known talk-radio figure who dared to express an opinion.

Hey Jon, maybe conservatives (yourself included) should say fewer bat#### insane things? Then the ratio might be better.

On this forum the bat ### crazy on the left are way ahead on saying insane things. And don't try to include Em as a conservative, he is a dumb kid. There are a couple like vermit (sp?) who pop in on rare occasion, but there are a dozen regulars like Tim and NCC on this thread who routinely are far out there.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

And here I've always kinda liked Prager. Don't agree with him much, but I found him to be one of the more thoughtful talk show hosts out there.

You've always been a bit nutty on that score, IMO. Prager has always been full of hot air.

Yep.

The guy had his own TV show as sort of a Limbaugh clone years ago. It lasted about as long as Rush's did.

 

[timschochet]

What's so ironic about Prager's accusations about this being a ploy to get votes is that recent history has shown that it is remarks like Prager's that are used to get votes, and not sexual assault charges. Everytime a conservative says something silly or outrageous about rape or women's issues, the Drms jump on it and have been very successful at winning elections as a result. If Prager's goal was to damage his own cause, he could not have chosen a better ploy .

 

[otello]

Look, I think that when a well known figure says something like this, it deserves it's own thread. That's all.

its own thread, not it's. I know you deal in volume, but it's still real to me, dammit.

 

[NCCommish]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

No it really isn't. Maybe you guys should go look at what they say and then report back. I didn't say the GOP by the way although you got your share there. I didn't say conservatives either although again they are there as well. I said conservative talking heads. That's a fairly well defined group and their words have been widely reported. So ignore what you will.

 

[Riversco]

Interesting how 99% of these type of Tim threads are about conservatives. But there are no double standards here. It is always the conservative response which is thread worthy, not the possibility that maybe the Democrats might be over-exaggerating the issue with emotionally-charged language.

ETA: I am not familiar with this well-known talk-radio figure who dared to express an opinion.

Tim's plot on the political plane is in the "republican apologist" region. He sees himself as the "Pope of the Republican Party" and it is his job to excommunicate those who are too extreme.

He just excommunicated Prager.

 

[urbanhack]

Look, I think that when a well known figure says something like this, it deserves it's own thread. That's all.

He's well-known?

 

[FUBAR]

I agree with Prager.

Based on what exactly?

Calling it a "gargantuan lie to get votes" is ridiculous. But it is an effort to expand the definition so wide that things that should be considered harassment are being labeled as assault. And as that viral video shows, things that most people consider simple greetings are now being construed as harassment. I am sure things like date rape/assault are prevalent on college campuses and need to be taken seriously even using more conventional definitions. This seems to be an attempt by feminist to promote their cause by inflating statistics.

Assault is an unwanted touching. We're a changing society, it's not a bad thing.

The jails are not big enough.

Not everyone who commits a sexual assault should go to jail.

 

[StrikeS2k]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

No it really isn't. Maybe you guys should go look at what they say and then report back. I didn't say the GOP by the way although you got your share there. I didn't say conservatives either although again they are there as well. I said conservative talking heads. That's a fairly well defined group and their words have been widely reported. So ignore what you will.

Nope. You're generalizing about a group. It's a specific group defined in your own mind but still a generalization. Second, I don't believe anyone in this country believes that there has never been a real rape. I don't know what you heard but I don't think it was that there has never been a real rape. And these are the types of comments Tim would make. So you've got that going for you I guess.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

No it really isn't. Maybe you guys should go look at what they say and then report back. I didn't say the GOP by the way although you got your share there. I didn't say conservatives either although again they are there as well. I said conservative talking heads. That's a fairly well defined group and their words have been widely reported. So ignore what you will.

Nope. You're generalizing about a group. It's a specific group defined in your own mind but still a generalization. Second, I don't believe anyone in this country believes that there has never been a real rape. I don't know what you heard but I don't think it was that there has never been a real rape. And these are the types of comments Tim would make. So you've got that going for you I guess.

 

[FUBAR]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

No it really isn't. Maybe you guys should go look at what they say and then report back. I didn't say the GOP by the way although you got your share there. I didn't say conservatives either although again they are there as well. I said conservative talking heads. That's a fairly well defined group and their words have been widely reported. So ignore what you will.

You're making the wild assertion. Might be interesting to see how "widely reported" the comments you're talking about are, shouldn't be difficult to show.

 

[squistion]

Look, I think that when a well known figure says something like this, it deserves it's own thread. That's all.

He's well-known?

Yes, probably to most people familiar with conservative talk radio. He has had a nationally syndicated show since the 90's (although I don't know how many markets currently carry it) and has had a steady following, although never in the same league, popularity wise, as Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck.

 

[timschochet]

I can understand why someone would think sexual assault definitions are too broad (I'm not sure if I agree with it but it's a reasonable position). But how the #### does that lead into some sinister plot to get votes?

There is absolutely a discussion to be had there. But the problem for many conservative talking heads is they seem to think no one is ever "really" raped and if they are well then didn't they deserve it just a bit? They are toxic on this issue and should just #### already.

Wow, you think there are people who believe that noone is EVER really raped????

I only go by the words that come out of their mouths. They belittle victims regularly. They belittle the trauma they feel. They downplay the reality to support their backwards views on women. I have heard many conservative talking heads say despicable things about sexual assault including femal commentators. I don't know how the conservative talkers ended up being the rapists best friend but they certainly are.

Are you sure your name isn't Tim? With all the generalizations, you sure sound exactly like him.

No it really isn't. Maybe you guys should go look at what they say and then report back. I didn't say the GOP by the way although you got your share there. I didn't say conservatives either although again they are there as well. I said conservative talking heads. That's a fairly well defined group and their words have been widely reported. So ignore what you will.

Nope. You're generalizing about a group. It's a specific group defined in your own mind but still a generalization. Second, I don't believe anyone in this country believes that there has never been a real rape. I don't know what you heard but I don't think it was that there has never been a real rape. And these are the types of comments Tim would make. So you've got that going for you I guess.

Lol. Strike has a fan club. How embarrassing for you.

 

[FUBAR]

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-20141119#ixzz3JvRuMqta

Considering the University's founder raped his slaves, this shouldn't be surprising.

 

[chauncey]

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-20141119#ixzz3JvRuMqta

Considering the University's founder raped his slaves, this shouldn't be surprising.

Now that deserves its own thread.

 

[FlapJacks]

What contributes to a culture of rape is making excuses for scumbags like Roman Polanski....