Deshaun Foster (1 Viewer)

[bocksheesh]

Haven't heard all that much talk about Deshaun Foster. There has been a lot salivating over DeAngelo Williams, but little about Foster.

Wondering if any Carolina homers have any insight on Foster. The only thing I heard about Foster and Williams is that Williams was good but not great in the preseason. And Foster was better.

But that's all pretty vague. Curious if anyone has any insight here.

 

[Penguin]

DeShauan looked strong, it's his job to hold onto and I believe only injury will keep himout of the top 15-20 RB's in 2006

 

[Scorehoard]

Folks tend to hold little reason to give a guy w/ injuries in the past any bit of props. Yes I just drafted Foster over the weekend but this is an impartial response. Carolina is once again picked to win the Super Bowl by many magazines and shows. Best team + top 3 Defense= Success. Simple way to put it. My personal reason for taking him.... He's been casts in the shadow similar to many in the past until the opportunity arose. A la Steve Young, Larry Johnson, Tom Brady, etc. NO, I am not holding Foster in that class of player success!! Its simply a matter of determination, attitude, and environment that I took in consideration before wanting Foster(Oh and the fact that their WR's will force teams to many adjustments). Injury prone..... sure, we have heard it all. Waiting 3 yrs and finally getting what you want... That can transform someone into what they could then only dream of. Before last season what did we know of Larry Johnson?? That he was soft and Vermeil said he needs a diaeper or something. Now we're flurting w/ 2000 yds. and 20 Td's.

Foster, I'd be extremely happy with 1250 yds and 10 Td's.

 

[shadow2k]

Folks tend to hold little reason to give a guy w/ injuries in the past any bit of props. Yes I just drafted Foster over the weekend but this is an impartial response. Carolina is once again picked to win the Super Bowl by many magazines and shows. Best team + top 3 Defense= Success. Simple way to put it. My personal reason for taking him.... He's been casts in the shadow similar to many in the past until the opportunity arose. A la Steve Young, Larry Johnson, Tom Brady, etc. NO, I am not holding Foster in that class of player success!! Its simply a matter of determination, attitude, and environment that I took in consideration before wanting Foster(Oh and the fact that their WR's will force teams to many adjustments). Injury prone..... sure, we have heard it all. Waiting 3 yrs and finally getting what you want... That can transform someone into what they could then only dream of. Before last season what did we know of Larry Johnson?? That he was soft and Vermeil said he needs a diaeper or something. Now we're flurting w/ 2000 yds. and 20 Td's.

Foster, I'd be extremely happy with 1250 yds and 10 Td's.

Nobody I know ever said LJ was soft? We just wanted him to shut up and let Priest do his thing. You'd be better off comparing him to...Thomas Jones?

 

[JMJ]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):

1,150 rushing

400 receiving

9 total TDs

That is fantastic value vs. his ADP. However, I did draft DeAngelo two rounds later for insurance. Carolina is a win-now team with a great defense, very good offense, and efficient leader at the QB position. Any RB in the NFL would be set up to succeed running in their offense and situation. I figured it was important to guarantee myself the starting RB for this team considering the uncertainty this year after the first 5 RBs and the fact you could handcuff these guys in rounds 3-5, and rounds 6-8.

HTH.

 

[ffchamp1]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDsThat is fantastic value vs. his ADP. However, I did draft DeAngelo two rounds later for insurance. Carolina is a win-now team with a great defense, very good offense, and efficient leader at the QB position. Any RB in the NFL would be set up to succeed running in their offense and situation. I figured it was important to guarantee myself the starting RB for this team considering the uncertainty this year after the first 5 RBs and the fact you could handcuff these guys in rounds 3-5, and rounds 6-8.HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

 

[Slider]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDsThat is fantastic value vs. his ADP. However, I did draft DeAngelo two rounds later for insurance. Carolina is a win-now team with a great defense, very good offense, and efficient leader at the QB position. Any RB in the NFL would be set up to succeed running in their offense and situation. I figured it was important to guarantee myself the starting RB for this team considering the uncertainty this year after the first 5 RBs and the fact you could handcuff these guys in rounds 3-5, and rounds 6-8.HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

 

[sartre]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDsThat is fantastic value vs. his ADP. However, I did draft DeAngelo two rounds later for insurance. Carolina is a win-now team with a great defense, very good offense, and efficient leader at the QB position. Any RB in the NFL would be set up to succeed running in their offense and situation. I figured it was important to guarantee myself the starting RB for this team considering the uncertainty this year after the first 5 RBs and the fact you could handcuff these guys in rounds 3-5, and rounds 6-8.HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

 

[davidwb]

well, in the past he's either been hurt or the backup runner -- so it's no surprise that if healthy he'll score more td's than he ever has before. the key is his health -- if he can start at least 14 games, he should have 9 or more td's. if not...

 

[ffchamp1]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDsThat is fantastic value vs. his ADP. However, I did draft DeAngelo two rounds later for insurance. Carolina is a win-now team with a great defense, very good offense, and efficient leader at the QB position. Any RB in the NFL would be set up to succeed running in their offense and situation. I figured it was important to guarantee myself the starting RB for this team considering the uncertainty this year after the first 5 RBs and the fact you could handcuff these guys in rounds 3-5, and rounds 6-8.HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2xin 180 carries Davis scored 12x

 

[sartre]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDs[...]HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2xin 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Hmmm. So 9 TD's for Foster this year wouldn't be surprising at all, would it?

 

[H.K.]

in 205 carries, Foster scored 2xin 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Carries inside the opponents 5 yard lineStephen Davis 24 carries 30 yard 1.25 YPC 11 TD DeShaun Foster 16 carries 31 yards 1.94 YPC 1 TD

 

[ffchamp1]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDs[...]HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2xin 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Hmmm. So 9 TD's for Foster this year wouldn't be surprising at all, would it?

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.Tom

 

[H.K.]

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.Tom

FWIW, this morning's Charlotte Observer said Goings may be GL RB.

 

[ffchamp1]

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.Tom

FWIW, this morning's Charlotte Observer said Goings may be GL RB.

For the last few years they have had 2 RB's share the wealth between yards and TD's. I expect this year will resemble the 04 season when they had 10 rushing td's more so than last years 17.Tom

 

[Steelers4Life]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDs[...]HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2xin 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Hmmm. So 9 TD's for Foster this year wouldn't be surprising at all, would it?

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.Tom

If you consider the amount of time he's actually spent in the role he currently has, it's not a telling stat at all. The only time in his career he's really had this role is the end of last year, and Foster did very, very well.Think that might have had something to do with WHERE they got their carries? Considering that Foter actually averaged more YPC than Davis in every situation, including inside the 5 yard line, I'd say it does.Not that Deshaun is automatically going to be in there on the goal-line, but if he is, double digit TDs isn't unlikely at all.

 

[ffchamp1]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):1,150 rushing400 receiving9 total TDs[...]HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2xin 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Hmmm. So 9 TD's for Foster this year wouldn't be surprising at all, would it?

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.Tom

If you consider the amount of time he's actually spent in the role he currently has, it's not a telling stat at all. The only time in his career he's really had this role is the end of last year, and Foster did very, very well.Think that might have had something to do with WHERE they got their carries? Considering that Foter actually averaged more YPC than Davis in every situation, including inside the 5 yard line, I'd say it does.Not that Deshaun is automatically going to be in there on the goal-line, but if he is, double digit TDs isn't unlikely at all.

Come on, just how important is YPC inside the 5. At best it will be 5, right? How many guys are going to have great averages in there?If you believe Foster will have 9 rushing TD's and be effective inside the 5, that is fine.I do not believe he will be effective and I do not believe that he will score 9 rushing td's.Tom

 

[bocksheesh]

At what pick number did guys who drafted Foster get him?

I'm trying to get a handle on whether I can still get him in the late 4th round of a 12-team draft.

 

[SaintArnold]

At what pick number did guys who drafted Foster get him?I'm trying to get a handle on whether I can still get him in the late 4th round of a 12-team draft.

I'd give you about 50/50 odds on that one. Antssports ADP: 5.03 High: 2.03 Low: 7.08

 

[bocksheesh]

At what pick number did guys who drafted Foster get him?I'm trying to get a handle on whether I can still get him in the late 4th round of a 12-team draft.

I'd give you about 50/50 odds on that one. Antssports ADP: 5.03 High: 2.03 Low: 7.08

Yeah, it's going to be a nail-biter as to whether I can draft him. I'm drafting at #2 so would have the 4.11 and 5.02 picks.Assuming I'd take him at 4.11 IF he's there. But worried he won't be. Counting on injury worries to push him down.

 

[Brewdude]

In my most competitive league, I grabbed him at 5.05.

 

[JohnnyTitan]

Foster also had two post-season TDs in 2003, including one in the Super Bowl and one of the toughest TDs I've every seen in the NFC Championship game vs Philly.

I agree double-digit TDs is very possible if DFost (sorry) can stay healthy for the majority of the season. As mentioned, the Panthers will be a great team that should score at least 20 TDs on the ground. Foster should get more than half of them.

At the very least, I think he'll get some opportunities. Hopefully he doesn't completely fall on his face early.

 

[JMJ]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):

1,150 rushing

400 receiving

9 total TDs

[...]

HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2x

in 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Hmmm. So 9 TD's for Foster this year wouldn't be surprising at all, would it?

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.

Tom

If you consider the amount of time he's actually spent in the role he currently has, it's not a telling stat at all. The only time in his career he's really had this role is the end of last year, and Foster did very, very well.Think that might have had something to do with WHERE they got their carries? Considering that Foter actually averaged more YPC than Davis in every situation, including inside the 5 yard line, I'd say it does.

Not that Deshaun is automatically going to be in there on the goal-line, but if he is, double digit TDs isn't unlikely at all.

Come on, just how important is YPC inside the 5. At best it will be 5, right? How many guys are going to have great averages in there?If you believe Foster will have 9 rushing TD's and be effective inside the 5, that is fine.

I do not believe he will be effective and I do not believe that he will score 9 rushing td's.

Tom

I never said 9 rushing TDs. Read my friend. I specifically typed, "9 total TDs." And, I stated that after I shared my projections of both his rushing and receiving stats. Why you would assume that meant 9 rushing TDs is beyond what any rational person would perceive. However, in case you were wondering; I see it more like:7 rushing TDs

2 receiving TDs

HTH.

 

[Woz]

At what pick number did guys who drafted Foster get him?I'm trying to get a handle on whether I can still get him in the late 4th round of a 12-team draft.

I got him at 4.4 after going RB-Wr-Wr... I don't think he lasts much longer.

 

[ffchamp1]

I happily drafted Foster. I think we're looking at (if healthy of course):

1,150 rushing

400 receiving

9 total TDs

[...]

HTH.

that would be 3 td's more than he has scored in his career

Typical owner stuff. Just drop it a little for reality.

How many rushing TD's did Carolina score last year?

17 totalin 205 carries, Foster scored 2x

in 180 carries Davis scored 12x

Hmmm. So 9 TD's for Foster this year wouldn't be surprising at all, would it?

I guess I see where you are going with it, however flawed.The guy has 4 rushing TD's in his career, I stand by that telling stat.

Tom

If you consider the amount of time he's actually spent in the role he currently has, it's not a telling stat at all. The only time in his career he's really had this role is the end of last year, and Foster did very, very well.Think that might have had something to do with WHERE they got their carries? Considering that Foter actually averaged more YPC than Davis in every situation, including inside the 5 yard line, I'd say it does.

Not that Deshaun is automatically going to be in there on the goal-line, but if he is, double digit TDs isn't unlikely at all.

Come on, just how important is YPC inside the 5. At best it will be 5, right? How many guys are going to have great averages in there?If you believe Foster will have 9 rushing TD's and be effective inside the 5, that is fine.

I do not believe he will be effective and I do not believe that he will score 9 rushing td's.

Tom

I never said 9 rushing TDs. Read my friend. I specifically typed, "9 total TDs." And, I stated that after I shared my projections of both his rushing and receiving stats. Why you would assume that meant 9 rushing TDs is beyond what any rational person would perceive. However, in case you were wondering; I see it more like:7 rushing TDs

2 receiving TDs

HTH.

Like I said, if you expect Foster to have a career year and exceed his career TD total, that is fine. I stand by his inability to be a productive runner when it comes to TD's and if he has 9 td's as you predict he will have doubled his career output.

I do thank you for helping me read, I just wish you would have eloborated as to how he will have such an impact when he has done nothing to this point.

Good luck with him

 

[walkwithme]

Since you asked how did D. Foster look in the preseason I would say average at best, nothing spectacular in his limited action this preseason. He really didn't get enough carries to show much. The running game as a whole did not impress me though but it was the preseason so you never know. The first game of the preseason the Panthers came out throwing I believe 6 passes and one run and one of the formations was an empty backfield with Foster lined up as receiver. I expect this team to be a pass first team with a heavy dosage of Steve Smith and Keyshawn to setup the run maybe this will help open some holes for Foster. Last year they were more 50/50 in terms of run to pass ratio. I don't know if this helps but this was my takeaway after watching them a few times

 

[bocksheesh]

Since you asked how did D. Foster look in the preseason I would say average at best, nothing spectacular in his limited action this preseason. He really didn't get enough carries to show much. The running game as a whole did not impress me though but it was the preseason so you never know. The first game of the preseason the Panthers came out throwing I believe 6 passes and one run and one of the formations was an empty backfield with Foster lined up as receiver. I expect this team to be a pass first team with a heavy dosage of Steve Smith and Keyshawn to setup the run maybe this will help open some holes for Foster. Last year they were more 50/50 in terms of run to pass ratio. I don't know if this helps but this was my takeaway after watching them a few times

Good insight and interesting info. This is what I was looking for.Drafting from the #2 spot, I'm giving serious thought to going RB-WR-WR and then coming back in Rounds 4 & 5 and going RB-RB.But that move is contingent on someone like a Foster sliding to me at 4.11. I like the idea of pairing Foster with a Shaun Alexander. Just not sure he's going to be there for me at 4.11.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

At what pick number did guys who drafted Foster get him?I'm trying to get a handle on whether I can still get him in the late 4th round of a 12-team draft.

He went 4.09 in a 12 man redraft with no ppr yesterday.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

I got him at 4.11 in 2 drafts over the last 2 weeks. I also went RB/WR/WR, but I realize the huge risk that DeShaun is. I just think his potential outweighs the risk by a country mile.

 

[walkwithme]

In my 12 team league redraft held Friday no ppr he went 23rd overall and was the 22nd RB taken. RB's were flying off the board and only one WR was taken in the first two rounds. I actually was expecting more WR's to go off the board in the second round but the guy who picked him has LJ as well so he should be fine. I thought Foster would slip to the third round>

 

[bjabrad]

I got Foster at 4.08 in a 10 team redraft league last night after going LJ, Fitzgerald and Westbrook.

Foster played better than Davis every chance he got last year and they kept using Davis as a vulture.

Foster showed some very nice athleticsm by keeping his feet where other runners would have gone down easily.

Foster is terrific as a receiver.

If given the chance (this is on the coach) Foster would be a top 10 RB.

CAR strength of schedule this year shows one tough defense vs the run in week 8 vs DAL. There are also a few hot RB games vs poor rush defenses but I'm encouraged by the small number of tough rush defenses that it appears that Foster will have to face.

I'm onboard.

 

[bocksheesh]

I got Foster at 4.08 in a 10 team redraft league last night after going LJ, Fitzgerald and Westbrook. Foster played better than Davis every chance he got last year and they kept using Davis as a vulture. Foster showed some very nice athleticsm by keeping his feet where other runners would have gone down easily. Foster is terrific as a receiver.If given the chance (this is on the coach) Foster would be a top 10 RB.CAR strength of schedule this year shows one tough defense vs the run in week 8 vs DAL. There are also a few hot RB games vs poor rush defenses but I'm encouraged by the small number of tough rush defenses that it appears that Foster will have to face. I'm onboard.

Damn, I'm getting increasingly nervous that Foster won't slide to me at 4.11. <Sigh>

 

[mr. furley]

Folks tend to hold little reason to give a guy w/ injuries in the past any bit of props. Yes I just drafted Foster over the weekend but this is an impartial response. Carolina is once again picked to win the Super Bowl by many magazines and shows. Best team + top 3 Defense= Success. Simple way to put it. My personal reason for taking him.... He's been casts in the shadow similar to many in the past until the opportunity arose. A la Steve Young, Larry Johnson, Tom Brady, etc. NO, I am not holding Foster in that class of player success!! Its simply a matter of determination, attitude, and environment that I took in consideration before wanting Foster(Oh and the fact that their WR's will force teams to many adjustments). Injury prone..... sure, we have heard it all. Waiting 3 yrs and finally getting what you want... That can transform someone into what they could then only dream of. Before last season what did we know of Larry Johnson?? That he was soft and Vermeil said he needs a diaeper or something. Now we're flurting w/ 2000 yds. and 20 Td's.

Foster, I'd be extremely happy with 1250 yds and 10 Td's.

Nobody I know ever said LJ was soft?

ummmm... #### Vermeil down?