packersfan
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No link yet but one should be hitting the wires shortly.
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DeShawn Wynn Put On IR (1 Viewer)
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Ryan Grant wins the job if only by default!
MCguidance
Footballguy
Well that sucks for him personally, but I was able to grab RG immediately -- always nice to have a starting RB on the roster. What does this do for Ryan Grant's stock?
Phurfur
Footballguy
How common are these leagues? What is the point? Do these leagues maintain a competative balance? Are they all free Yahoo leagues? It seem pretty counter productive to me.
Wildcat
Footballguy
Halvo
Footballguy
from rotoworld:
Packers placed RB DeShawn Wynn on injured reserve with an unspecified injury, ending his season.
Wynn pulled himself out of Monday's game with a shoulder injury. The seventh-rounder flashed pro talent since his first camp, but an endless array of injuries limits his long-term potential. The move clears the way for Ryan Grant to be the starter moving forward, with Vernand Morency seeing third down action. Grant should be owned in all leagues.
Packers placed RB DeShawn Wynn on injured reserve with an unspecified injury, ending his season.
Wynn pulled himself out of Monday's game with a shoulder injury. The seventh-rounder flashed pro talent since his first camp, but an endless array of injuries limits his long-term potential. The move clears the way for Ryan Grant to be the starter moving forward, with Vernand Morency seeing third down action. Grant should be owned in all leagues.
Are you taking issue with the fact the waiver wire was active already? Or that Grant was available?If it's the first, I haven't played ina league that didn't start off with either blind bids or a waiver wire order before free for all in quite some time, tho some people prefer it that way.
I know of a few people who have even played with an open waiver wire policy - it never closes.
Personally, I'd never do that, but I've heard tell of those that like it.
coolnerd
Footballguy
I am in more dynasty leagues than i wish to admit at the moment, but it is about 50/50 as to whether Ryan Grant is available or not. Until the rumors of early last week, wasn't Grant the number 3 or 4 RB on one of the worst rushing teams in the league.
Fullback Fro
yesno
Ryan Grant is avialable in my WCOFF league this week. Your league is way to cool for you to even be posting here.
Screamin' SphinX
Footballguy
FWIW -
Grant was owned in 2% of CBS Sports Leagues during week 8 and started in 0%
Currently Week 9 there is 10% ownership with 3% having him in their current starting lineup.
To me this suggests that around 8-10% of leagues have open waivers.
I expect that tomorrow the ownership will jump in a huge fashion since many leagues start their waivers Tuesday evening.
Grant was owned in 2% of CBS Sports Leagues during week 8 and started in 0%
Currently Week 9 there is 10% ownership with 3% having him in their current starting lineup.
To me this suggests that around 8-10% of leagues have open waivers.
I expect that tomorrow the ownership will jump in a huge fashion since many leagues start their waivers Tuesday evening.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
I picked him up back in 2001 in the eighteenth round of my league's supplemental draft after his sophomore year at Don Bosco Preparatory H.S. and have patiently stashed him away for the last six years just waiting for him to get an opportunity. 
at the these guppies who think they're on top of their game because they managed to snag him today.
Max Power
Footballguy
I think the point Phurfer was making is whats the deal with your league's Waiver system.
I play in two big money leagues and one uses waivers from Kickoff until midnight tuesday. The other only uses waivers when a player is dropped, which does make it harder for teams who cant be around a computer 24/7.
I play in two big money leagues and one uses waivers from Kickoff until midnight tuesday. The other only uses waivers when a player is dropped, which does make it harder for teams who cant be around a computer 24/7.
MCguidance
Footballguy
THey are competitive. 12 year league, decent money, I think 8 different winners. It's called staying on top of things
kingmalaki
Footballguy
So what do y'all expect out of Grant going forward?
Tyrion
Footballguy
We do our waivers via fights to the death every week which is pretty exciting but leads to high owner turnover.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Well does Ryan Grant running over me in HS count as anything? I was able to see his cleats -- so my league gave him to me out of respect.Kidding about the latter part of my comment, serious about the first
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buck naked
Footballguy
Wow. How about that? He is available in mine, too. We must all suck in that league.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Thompson not giving up on Wynn
By Tom Silverstein
Tuesday, Oct 30 2007, 04:24 PM
Despite the fact that rookie running back DeShawn Wynn can't stay healthy and will spend the rest of the year on injured reserve, Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson said he still has faith in him.
Wynn suffered shoulder and neck injuries on his first carry of the game in the Packers' 19-13 victory over the Broncos and probably would miss a good portion of the rest of the season, according to coach Mike McCarthy. The worst part of Wynn's injury was to a nerve in his neck, which is commonly referred to as a "stinger," although Thompson said there was also an injury to his shoulder joint.
"DeShawn Wynn did a nice job for us," Thompson said. "We thing he's going to be a good player for us. It's unfortunate that he got hurt. This is not a career-threatening thing. It's just something that's going to take time."
Thompson said he wasn't surprised by the performance of Ryan Grant, who rushed 22 times for 104 yards. He said the coaches have been preparing him every week for playing time because of the uncertainty of the team's various runners and that Grant has been progressing nicely.
"We like our guys," Thompson said. "We also like what DeShawn did for us and what he'll do in the future."
McCarthy also said that he still thinks Wynn has a promising future in Green Bay, but he acknowledged he will have to stay healthy.
By Tom Silverstein
Tuesday, Oct 30 2007, 04:24 PM
Despite the fact that rookie running back DeShawn Wynn can't stay healthy and will spend the rest of the year on injured reserve, Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson said he still has faith in him.
Wynn suffered shoulder and neck injuries on his first carry of the game in the Packers' 19-13 victory over the Broncos and probably would miss a good portion of the rest of the season, according to coach Mike McCarthy. The worst part of Wynn's injury was to a nerve in his neck, which is commonly referred to as a "stinger," although Thompson said there was also an injury to his shoulder joint.
"DeShawn Wynn did a nice job for us," Thompson said. "We thing he's going to be a good player for us. It's unfortunate that he got hurt. This is not a career-threatening thing. It's just something that's going to take time."
Thompson said he wasn't surprised by the performance of Ryan Grant, who rushed 22 times for 104 yards. He said the coaches have been preparing him every week for playing time because of the uncertainty of the team's various runners and that Grant has been progressing nicely.
"We like our guys," Thompson said. "We also like what DeShawn did for us and what he'll do in the future."
McCarthy also said that he still thinks Wynn has a promising future in Green Bay, but he acknowledged he will have to stay healthy.
Should Grant really be jumped on? He's approx 3/4th in line of a avg/mediocre group of running backs who are in a system that has barely rushed all year. Many, including I, have benefited in the past when a starter goes down and his backup explodes (ala Portis then Betts) but this situation is a starter who was iffy at best and only got oppurtunties from other injuries, going down and another backup getting a chance.
He did look good though, but it was against a poor def...
He did look good though, but it was against a poor def...
I'm hoping this situation will be the same as Samkon Gado taking over for GB, and that actually turned out good. Either or, a RB getting the bulk of carries is always worth a roster spot in Fantasy Football.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
10 team dynasty/salary cap league with a $32 million cap. Signing bonuses, roster bonuses, No trade Clauses, Restricted Free Agency, Transition Player Tags, Franchise Player Tags, Draft pick compensation, compensatory pick compensation, Performance bonuses, the ability to move money back into next year's cap at a cost of 25% off the cap next year, etc, etc...
He is available in my league right now but will likely get snagged tonight. I wish I was in your league instead of being 7-1 in the league I'm in that has Wynn available....
He is available in my league right now but will likely get snagged tonight. I wish I was in your league instead of being 7-1 in the league I'm in that has Wynn available....
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
FFS, he was talking about FCFS waivers without a waiting period...
MCguidance
Footballguy
Yeah, I like your points, but something you also should consider is the mere fact that ANY starting running back is valuable -- if only for matchups such as last night. For instance, if Grant can hold onto the starting job and be productive, he has a decent schedule coming later in the year, beginning with week 12.12 Thu, Nov 22 @ Detroit 13 Thu, Nov 29 @ Dallas 14 Sun, Dec 9 Oakland 15 Sun, Dec 16 @ St. Louis 16 Sun, Dec 23 @ Chicago 17 Sun, Dec 30 Detroit I think that if he can be productive, and you have unfavorable matchups with your other RBs, then he is definitely worth something in larger, deeper leagues.
sho nuff
Footballguy
In a pinch, not a bad pickup...and not bad to have some depth.If he is getting the carries.Their schedule gets a bit better against the run than it has been before last night.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
I've had him on my taxi squad since very early in the season. MFL has him as a rookie. If they didn't I would have had to place him on my active roster and likely wouldn't have done that.
Nice schedule the last part of the season, with bad weather coming, could become a good one to have.
Nice schedule the last part of the season, with bad weather coming, could become a good one to have.
scott72
Footballguy
I'm not going to jump on him. This is a RBBC team. Grant may start, but your going to see Jackson and Morency (when healthy) in the mix too. I totally agree with it because it keeps guys fresh as the season wears on. IMO Grant isn't going to warrant the numbers for a waiver pickup, especially on a team that is clearly pass heavy at this point. Remember we faced the 32nd ranked rush D last night. IMO the jury is still out whether we can really run the ball or not.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Out of curiosity, what kind of players are people holding onto and passing over RG on the wire? Like what did you weigh as too costly of a drop for you to pass over Grant? Looking forward to a homer's perspective.
Ocho Cinco
Footballguy
I'm contemplating cutting Ahman Green for him, still a bit indecisive.
Cha - Ching.I took over a last place team in a dynasty league last year, and this week, after 22 weeks, I will finally be able to start two starting RBs in a game for the first time.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
For the guy who asked about the open waiver system, Im in a 12 team dynasty where the wire is always open and there is no max moves you can do at a certain time, only a max limit of moves for the season (15). It doesn't effect the competitiveness of the league, but again its dynasty. In a redraft I dont like it as much
PS
WOOHOO! Got Ryan Grant in my 16 team redraft last night. Im 7-1, but with Gore and Ahman Green as my RB's I needed help in that area desperately. This is great news
PS
WOOHOO! Got Ryan Grant in my 16 team redraft last night. Im 7-1, but with Gore and Ahman Green as my RB's I needed help in that area desperately. This is great news
twistd
Footballguy
** Packers RB DeShawn Wynn (shoulder) was placed on IR. Something tells us this wasn't all about the injury. There are rumors that Wynn is not, well... just not all there mentally at times. Enough about him: Ryan Grant is the clear-cut #1 Green Bay RB with Vernand Morency locked in as the backup/3rd down guy. This backfield has cleared up nicely. This was an e-mail form Draftsharks. I'm assuming that this means he is stupid. Anyone else seen or heard anything like this about Wynn.from rotoworldackers placed RB DeShawn Wynn on injured reserve with an unspecified injury, ending his season.Wynn pulled himself out of Monday's game with a shoulder injury. The seventh-rounder flashed pro talent since his first camp, but an endless array of injuries limits his long-term potential. The move clears the way for Ryan Grant to be the starter moving forward, with Vernand Morency seeing third down action. Grant should be owned in all leagues.
wraith5
Footballguy
This is exactly the move I made last night before the game was even over - Green won't play next week, then he has his BYE. Houston is in disarray right now because of injuries and even when Ahman has played he's been largely disappointing. Wynn being placed on IR just solidifies my bet. The Pack hasn't been running because they couldn't run. What I saw last night, despite being against DEN, is that they now have options with Grant they didn't have with Jackson or Morency. This does not look like a RBBC situation to me.
Pipes
Footballguy
In all fairness though they have gone up against some pretty stout run defenses early in the season so I don't think their running attack was as bad as the numbers were showing before the Denver game nor do I feel they suddenly found a running attack with Grant. Their running game may improve but it's going to be a mediocre attack at best the rest of the season.Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Grant looks like a battering ram - he has little to no "wiggle", and seems unable to make guys miss. He looked like a motivated version of Cedric Benson, running straight forward into the O-line (but unlike Benson, actually finding holes). He ran strong and appeared to have good forward lean coming through the line. It allowed him to gain at least 3-4 yards on most carries.
At the end of the day, he's currently a starting RB and thus has value in a redraft. I find it difficult to believe that Grant will be anything more than a 1/2 season stopgap. But if he produces, given the poor caliber of competition around him, who knows?
At the end of the day, he's currently a starting RB and thus has value in a redraft. I find it difficult to believe that Grant will be anything more than a 1/2 season stopgap. But if he produces, given the poor caliber of competition around him, who knows?
The only spot I have for him would be to drop Buckhalter who I have as insurance to Westbrook(my #1) if he gets hurt. I have Edge and Jamal Lewis also. It would be nice to add another full time starter to the group, but if(Westbrook got hurt) I would be in trouble without Buck as I beleive Buckhalter could step in and be a decent 1 or 2 RB. But if I don't have him and am stuck with a Lewis or Grant as my new starter, it would be a downgrade. So in the end, I think its safer just to stick with Buckhalter as Grants not going to overtake any of my other backs anyway.
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
Grant isn't likely to be a good play until the weather gets cold and the Packers get teams like Oakland and Detroit at Lambeau late in the year. IF he still has the job at that time, he could be a sneaky playoff play.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Dump Buckhalter for Grant.It's much better having 2 starting RBs on your rosterrather than one starter and his oft injured handcuff.
