Dez & Miles the NEW best wr duo? (1 Viewer)

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

We have seen teams with a great pair of wr's ala Harrison/Wayne types.

Both Austin and Dez are dazzling after the catch. Both have very good hand and

both good rac ability. I really think both will have over 80rec's and both over 1000yrds.

Maybe its a week one overreaction, but Dez looks like he will be heavily targeted and Miles

showed last yr he is going to get his numbers.

Also want to add i dont disagree with the high dynasty ranking of Dez by some experts as high as 6 for dynasty.

 

[SSOG]

Dez got a boatload of targets, but did he really look good? Looked pretty pedestrian to me. I'm not making sweeping judgments based off of one game and going so far as to call him pedestrian, I'm just saying... I don't know if we were watching the same game, because I didn't come away from that saying "man, Dez Bryant sure looked good tonight".

Austin, on the other hand, is a near-mythic heathen he-beast who exists solely to pillage touchdowns from hapless secondaries. He's a modern-day Grendel, and there's nary a Beowulf at hand to bring cessation to his reign of despair as he crests the feeble bulwarks erected by piteous defensive backs and carries on unabated into the end zone.

 

[shortbow]

Dez & Miles the NEW best wr duo?

Nope.

 

[netnalp]

Dez got a boatload of targets, but did he really look good? Looked pretty pedestrian to me. I'm not making sweeping judgments based off of one game and going so far as to call him pedestrian, I'm just saying... I don't know if we were watching the same game, because I didn't come away from that saying "man, Dez Bryant sure looked good tonight".Austin, on the other hand, is a near-mythic heathen he-beast who exists solely to pillage touchdowns from hapless secondaries. He's a modern-day Grendel, and there's nary a Beowulf at hand to bring cessation to his reign of despair as he crests the feeble bulwarks erected by piteous defensive backs and carries on unabated into the end zone.

Dez hasn't shown he's Grendel's Mommie yet.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Dez got a boatload of targets, but did he really look good? Looked pretty pedestrian to me. I'm not making sweeping judgments based off of one game and going so far as to call him pedestrian, I'm just saying... I don't know if we were watching the same game, because I didn't come away from that saying "man, Dez Bryant sure looked good tonight".Austin, on the other hand, is a near-mythic heathen he-beast who exists solely to pillage touchdowns from hapless secondaries. He's a modern-day Grendel, and there's nary a Beowulf at hand to bring cessation to his reign of despair as he crests the feeble bulwarks erected by piteous defensive backs and carries on unabated into the end zone.

Depends on what ALL you looking at SSOG, did he have some breakaway in the open plays....NO he didnt, if you noticed they played DEZ very tight and was kinda cheating towards him. But lets think back during TC when Dez showed REMARKABLE hands and body control and then look at how this his 1st real action and he really didnt do nothing disappointing. It wasnt his fault the cowboys called the same quick screens to him over and over. Considering he a rookie he looked very good outside a few plays.To me i see both of them as HUNRGY and wanting the ball, wouldnt suprise me to see Dez lead them in yrds from time to time.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I really think both will have over 80rec's and both over 1000yrds.

Wouldn't that knock Witten down to about 40ish catches? I don't see that happening. Austin will get his but I'd be very surprised if Bryant goes over 60 catches this year.

Witten will get more than 40, i can see him around 60ish range. And will even less for ROY. Its like Romo was going to Dez before he even went thru his reads, I can see Austin around high 80/low 90 rec's, Dez low 80ish, and Witten around 65ish catches.

 

[SSOG]

Depends on what ALL you looking at SSOG, did he have some breakaway in the open plays....NO he didnt, if you noticed they played DEZ very tight and was kinda cheating towards him. But lets think back during TC when Dez showed REMARKABLE hands and body control and then look at how this his 2st real action and he really didnt do nothing disappointing. It wasnt his fault the cowboys called the same quick screens to him over and over. Considering he a rookie he looked very good outside a few plays.To me i see both of them as HUNRGY and wanting the ball, wouldnt suprise me to see Dez lead them in yrds from time to time.

That's all well and good, and it's one thing to say "Dez was a huge part of the offensive gameplan tonight", or to say "Dez was awesome in camps and did not look UNGOOD tonight so I'm still going to operate under the assumption that he's awesome", but I didn't see anything tonight that made me say "wow, that Dez Bryant guy looks really good". If they had replaced his jersey with one that read "Flugle Grubthunder", after the game I would have said "wow, who the hell is Flugle Grubthunder and why the hell did Dallas keep force feeding him the ball?".

 

[MrSoup]

MisfitBlondes. I glanced at your signature. Your team blew it up today!

 

[UFO]

Best WR corp...uh no...gotta put up more than 1 td to even be in the discussion...don't you think?

 

[Banger]

Best WR corp...uh no...gotta put up more than 1 td to even be in the discussion...don't you think?

after week 1 no, after week 8, very possible.

 

[jurb26]

I'm with SSOG here. Dez didn't do anything last night to impress me other than receive a ton of targets. Don't get me wrong, as a Dez owner in a dynasty league I like the amount of targets. However, he didn't look impressive as a player IMO. Austin on the other hand looked uncoverable.

 

[humpback]

I'm with SSOG here. Dez didn't do anything last night to impress me other than receive a ton of targets. Don't get me wrong, as a Dez owner in a dynasty league I like the amount of targets. However, he didn't look impressive as a player IMO. Austin on the other hand looked uncoverable.

Agreed with both. He got a ton of targets, which is obviously good for fantasy owners, but there was a clear difference between he and Austin last night. I actually think when they go back and look at the tape, the coaching staff will see they made a mistake by forcing him the ball too much.

 

[ponchsox]

They look good, but not as good as Moss & WW

 

[jurb26]

I'm with SSOG here. Dez didn't do anything last night to impress me other than receive a ton of targets. Don't get me wrong, as a Dez owner in a dynasty league I like the amount of targets. However, he didn't look impressive as a player IMO. Austin on the other hand looked uncoverable.

Agreed with both. He got a ton of targets, which is obviously good for fantasy owners, but there was a clear difference between he and Austin last night. I actually think when they go back and look at the tape, the coaching staff will see they made a mistake by forcing him the ball too much.

I think at one pint late in the 4th quarter they placed a graphic up for Austin's targets vs. the rest of the Dal team. Austin had like 9 targets, all for completions. The rest had like 25 targets for like 12 or 13 completions. I can remember thinking wow why the hell isn't Romo going to Austin more and at the same time they may as well have just put Austin's targets and Bryant's. I'd bet about 12 of those other 25 where all to him.

 

[King of the Jungle]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

True he was force feed the targets but really...did he get a wide open in the middle of the field pass like Miles? Most of those 1yrd pass to DEZ was crazy imo and predictable. The 15yarder Dez caught LeRon Landy was already breaking over there before the pass. Just seems they was really paying DEZ alot of attention. Not saying he is as good or even looked as good as Austin. I do think the passes to Austin allowed him more room to make bigger plays.

Thats why i started the thread, i think BOTH of these guys will be a handful this year. I thought it would take some time like mid season for Dez but i dont think that anymore, i think he can average 4 rec's a game. Austin i can see pushing for the #1 wr this year.

 

[jurb26]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

He just didn't get open really. It seemed like the Wash CBs where able to handle him 1 on 1 and he didn't ever create any separation. He never made anything happen after the catch, which is supposed to be his big strength. That was mostly because he didn't create enough separation in the 1st place. He caught the ball well enough and played aggressive. Sometimes too aggressive IMO. He could have easily been flagged for grabbing onto D. Hall's facemask after a play in which he got nailed for no gain. I didn't see any explosiveness out of him either. They ran him deep on numerous occasions and the Wash DBs easily hung with him.

 

[humpback]

I'm with SSOG here. Dez didn't do anything last night to impress me other than receive a ton of targets. Don't get me wrong, as a Dez owner in a dynasty league I like the amount of targets. However, he didn't look impressive as a player IMO. Austin on the other hand looked uncoverable.

Agreed with both. He got a ton of targets, which is obviously good for fantasy owners, but there was a clear difference between he and Austin last night. I actually think when they go back and look at the tape, the coaching staff will see they made a mistake by forcing him the ball too much.

I think at one pint late in the 4th quarter they placed a graphic up for Austin's targets vs. the rest of the Dal team. Austin had like 9 targets, all for completions. The rest had like 25 targets for like 12 or 13 completions. I can remember thinking wow why the hell isn't Romo going to Austin more and at the same time they may as well have just put Austin's targets and Bryant's. I'd bet about 12 of those other 25 where all to him.

Yep, I think Austin was actually 10/10 at the time. It's not Dez's fault, but the coaches screwed up IMO- they were rolling down the field on their first possession up until they forced 2 straight completions to Dez which stalled the drive just out of field goal range. Then Dez had a bad pass interference call on their second drive that may have been the difference in the game (along with a million other Cowboy mistakes obviously). Then on the final drive, he reacted too late to a Romo pass that should have been picked.KOTJ, I don't think he looked bad, I just don't think he looked overly impressive, which is understandable for his first live action. I still think he'll get there.

 

[jurb26]

True he was force feed the targets but really...did he get a wide open in the middle of the field pass like Miles? Most of those 1yrd pass to DEZ was crazy imo and predictable. The 15yarder Dez caught LeRon Landy was already breaking over there before the pass. Just seems they was really paying DEZ alot of attention. Not saying he is as good or even looked as good as Austin. I do think the passes to Austin allowed him more room to make bigger plays.

That was a CB blitz where Wash felt comfortable enough to isolate their S on Dez 1 on 1 w/o him even cheating to that side of the field pre-snap. Landry was running at him full speed because he had to, Dez was his guy. They paid no special attention to him what so ever.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

He wasnt unimpressive at all, but he did nothing that stood out or highlight reel. I guess that is what most is looking at. what impressed me was his enthusiam, he wanted the ball, was into the game, made some catches with contact already engaged.He did have a lapse on a hot read throw, but like i say he did nothing super highlight reel but he looks solid to me.

 

[Hastur]

Dez got a boatload of targets, but did he really look good? Looked pretty pedestrian to me. I'm not making sweeping judgments based off of one game and going so far as to call him pedestrian, I'm just saying... I don't know if we were watching the same game, because I didn't come away from that saying "man, Dez Bryant sure looked good tonight".Austin, on the other hand, is a near-mythic heathen he-beast who exists solely to pillage touchdowns from hapless secondaries. He's a modern-day Grendel, and there's nary a Beowulf at hand to bring cessation to his reign of despair as he crests the feeble bulwarks erected by piteous defensive backs and carries on unabated into the end zone.

 

[Concept Coop]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

He just didn't get open really. It seemed like the Wash CBs where able to handle him 1 on 1 and he didn't ever create any separation. He never made anything happen after the catch, which is supposed to be his big strength. That was mostly because he didn't create enough separation in the 1st place. He caught the ball well enough and played aggressive. Sometimes too aggressive IMO. He could have easily been flagged for grabbing onto D. Hall's facemask after a play in which he got nailed for no gain. I didn't see any explosiveness out of him either. They ran him deep on numerous occasions and the Wash DBs easily hung with him.

1 on 1? When was it ever one on one? Aside from the 3 stupid no-gain throws, Washington was very attentive to the rookie. Explosiveness is a very subjective term to use here. When did he get a chance to show that he was explosive? Just about everything Dallas did was 3 step drops, due to the Oline issues. When did they run him deep? I watched every snap and recall one that was clearly overthrown AND the safety was there to help. I am NOT going to call the kid Fitz AT ALL, let alone in his first game. I am going to point out that some WRs don't need to appear to be wide open to catch the ball, ala Fitz. I would love to see what would have happened had Romo been able to put the ball where it needed to be. He displayed soft hands today.I was also surprised how big this guy is. He makes Roy L. Williams look really skinny.Overall, I like what I saw and can't wait to see how he plays when given a chance to show more.

 

[jurb26]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

He just didn't get open really. It seemed like the Wash CBs where able to handle him 1 on 1 and he didn't ever create any separation. He never made anything happen after the catch, which is supposed to be his big strength. That was mostly because he didn't create enough separation in the 1st place. He caught the ball well enough and played aggressive. Sometimes too aggressive IMO. He could have easily been flagged for grabbing onto D. Hall's facemask after a play in which he got nailed for no gain. I didn't see any explosiveness out of him either. They ran him deep on numerous occasions and the Wash DBs easily hung with him.

1 on 1? When was it ever one on one? Aside from the 3 stupid no-gain throws, Washington was very attentive to the rookie. Explosiveness is a very subjective term to use here. When did he get a chance to show that he was explosive? Just about everything Dallas did was 3 step drops, due to the Oline issues. When did they run him deep? I watched every snap and recall one that was clearly overthrown AND the safety was there to help. I am NOT going to call the kid Fitz AT ALL, let alone in his first game. I am going to point out that some WRs don't need to appear to be wide open to catch the ball, ala Fitz. I would love to see what would have happened had Romo been able to put the ball where it needed to be. He displayed soft hands today.I was also surprised how big this guy is. He makes Roy L. Williams look really skinny.Overall, I like what I saw and can't wait to see how he plays when given a chance to show more.

They went to Bryant deep at least 2 times late in the 1st half.

 

[Neo]

Wow, a little harsh by a lot of people. It's the guys 1st NFL game....he barely played in preseason...to me he gobbled up every ball thrown near him, showed great hands and you could tell how green he was by Romo yapping at him constantly. I came away pretty impressed by him.

 

[Concept Coop]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

He just didn't get open really. It seemed like the Wash CBs where able to handle him 1 on 1 and he didn't ever create any separation. He never made anything happen after the catch, which is supposed to be his big strength. That was mostly because he didn't create enough separation in the 1st place. He caught the ball well enough and played aggressive. Sometimes too aggressive IMO. He could have easily been flagged for grabbing onto D. Hall's facemask after a play in which he got nailed for no gain. I didn't see any explosiveness out of him either. They ran him deep on numerous occasions and the Wash DBs easily hung with him.

1 on 1? When was it ever one on one? Aside from the 3 stupid no-gain throws, Washington was very attentive to the rookie. Explosiveness is a very subjective term to use here. When did he get a chance to show that he was explosive? Just about everything Dallas did was 3 step drops, due to the Oline issues. When did they run him deep? I watched every snap and recall one that was clearly overthrown AND the safety was there to help. I am NOT going to call the kid Fitz AT ALL, let alone in his first game. I am going to point out that some WRs don't need to appear to be wide open to catch the ball, ala Fitz. I would love to see what would have happened had Romo been able to put the ball where it needed to be. He displayed soft hands today.I was also surprised how big this guy is. He makes Roy L. Williams look really skinny.Overall, I like what I saw and can't wait to see how he plays when given a chance to show more.

They went to Bryant deep at least 2 times late in the 1st half.

Maybe I missed (forgot) one. But the one that I did see was overthrown. He got by the CB by a 1/2 step, but the safety was right there. Nothing about last night suggested that he couldn't get open or create seperation. There was simply no opportunity for seperation. Anyone suggesting that needs to watch the game again and pay attention to the play calls, and the O-line.

 

[Da Guru]

Bryant needs some work, but Miles looks to be one of the best WRs in the NFL. The guy has game.

 

[Concept Coop]

Depends on what ALL you looking at SSOG, did he have some breakaway in the open plays....NO he didnt, if you noticed they played DEZ very tight and was kinda cheating towards him. But lets think back during TC when Dez showed REMARKABLE hands and body control and then look at how this his 2st real action and he really didnt do nothing disappointing. It wasnt his fault the cowboys called the same quick screens to him over and over. Considering he a rookie he looked very good outside a few plays.To me i see both of them as HUNRGY and wanting the ball, wouldnt suprise me to see Dez lead them in yrds from time to time.

That's all well and good, and it's one thing to say "Dez was a huge part of the offensive gameplan tonight", or to say "Dez was awesome in camps and did not look UNGOOD tonight so I'm still going to operate under the assumption that he's awesome", but I didn't see anything tonight that made me say "wow, that Dez Bryant guy looks really good". If they had replaced his jersey with one that read "Flugle Grubthunder", after the game I would have said "wow, who the hell is Flugle Grubthunder and why the hell did Dallas keep force feeding him the ball?".

You should watch the game again. You will realize that there wasn't room for him to show much. 3 step drops, just about the whole game. Even the TD to Austin was blown coverage. Everything else was underneath the zone. When Washington played man-to-man on the corners, the pressure got to Romo before anyone could create seperation and that includes Austin. He did what the offensive playcalling and Oline allowed him to do: catch the ball.

 

[Jayrod]

He made a really tough catch on a slant route with a guy hanging all over him. Grabbed the ball with his hands and never let go even with the DB doing everything he could to pry it away....that was the only time I really noticed him doing anything, but I was working while I watched the game.

 

[Concept Coop]

Bryant needs some work, but Miles looks to be one of the best WRs in the NFL. The guy has game.

This is getting silly? What about yesterday tells you that he "needs work"?

 

[humpback]

Wow, a little harsh by a lot of people. It's the guys 1st NFL game....he barely played in preseason...to me he gobbled up every ball thrown near him, showed great hands and you could tell how green he was by Romo yapping at him constantly. I came away pretty impressed by him.

Who is being harsh? The OP started a thread suggesting that Dez and Miles (he put Dez first, lol) could be the best WR duo, and people are just saying not to go crazy just yet. He looked pretty good for a guy in his first game. Not bad, not outstanding, pretty good.

 

[Neo]

Wow, a little harsh by a lot of people. It's the guys 1st NFL game....he barely played in preseason...to me he gobbled up every ball thrown near him, showed great hands and you could tell how green he was by Romo yapping at him constantly. I came away pretty impressed by him.

Who is being harsh? The OP started a thread suggesting that Dez and Miles (he put Dez first, lol) could be the best WR duo, and people are just saying not to go crazy just yet. He looked pretty good for a guy in his first game. Not bad, not outstanding, pretty good.

Maybe I didn't have my coffee yet, but just seemed a lot of posts were real down on Bryant, which I just didn't really understand.

 

[Clinton]

Bryant needs some work, but Miles looks to be one of the best WRs in the NFL. The guy has game.

This is getting silly? What about yesterday tells you that he "needs work"?

Every receiver in NFL history needed some work after their first game. That's not an insult, that's just reality.

 

[jurb26]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

He just didn't get open really. It seemed like the Wash CBs where able to handle him 1 on 1 and he didn't ever create any separation. He never made anything happen after the catch, which is supposed to be his big strength. That was mostly because he didn't create enough separation in the 1st place. He caught the ball well enough and played aggressive. Sometimes too aggressive IMO. He could have easily been flagged for grabbing onto D. Hall's facemask after a play in which he got nailed for no gain. I didn't see any explosiveness out of him either. They ran him deep on numerous occasions and the Wash DBs easily hung with him.

1 on 1? When was it ever one on one? Aside from the 3 stupid no-gain throws, Washington was very attentive to the rookie. Explosiveness is a very subjective term to use here. When did he get a chance to show that he was explosive? Just about everything Dallas did was 3 step drops, due to the Oline issues. When did they run him deep? I watched every snap and recall one that was clearly overthrown AND the safety was there to help. I am NOT going to call the kid Fitz AT ALL, let alone in his first game. I am going to point out that some WRs don't need to appear to be wide open to catch the ball, ala Fitz. I would love to see what would have happened had Romo been able to put the ball where it needed to be. He displayed soft hands today.I was also surprised how big this guy is. He makes Roy L. Williams look really skinny.Overall, I like what I saw and can't wait to see how he plays when given a chance to show more.

They went to Bryant deep at least 2 times late in the 1st half.

Maybe I missed (forgot) one. But the one that I did see was overthrown. He got by the CB by a 1/2 step, but the safety was right there. Nothing about last night suggested that he couldn't get open or create seperation. There was simply no opportunity for seperation. Anyone suggesting that needs to watch the game again and pay attention to the play calls, and the O-line.

Then why was Austin able to get open by 5 yds on every route he ran? There was plenty of opportunity. He didn't have a Randy Moss like 1st game. Big deal. Nobody was really expecting that. I'm not saying he isn't going to have a nice career or anything. The guy needs work. Seems like the Bryant backers (I own the guy in dynasty as well) are way too sensitive.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Dez had more catches, and certainly more targets, than I would have expected from his very first game with no preseason snaps.

He didn't have any eye-popping highlight reel plays, but he just steadily did what was asked of him, without looking overmatched or overwhelmed at any point.

He seemed very confident from start to finish. There's no reason why he shouldn't supplant Roy Williams sooner rather than later.

Of course, I'm not annointing Austin/Bryant the new best duo just yet.

 

[Concept Coop]

What are you talking about? 5 yards on every route? That is silly. Really silly. Why didn't the Cowboys pass it to Austin on every play? How can you even see every route, unless you have game film? The only time he was 5 yards open was a blown assignment. It is also silly to compare a quick burst player like Austin, to a long stride player like Bryant. Welker would have looked better than a prime TO last night. That has more to do with the situation that it does the wideout.

Austin ran more routes across the field, against zone coverage. Aside from the dumb, no gain play calls, most of Bryant's stuff was in the 8 - 12 yard range.

Lastly, nobody is arguing that Bryant is better than Austin. Austin had an amazing game. But again, Bryant did what the playcalling and O-line allowed him to do, which was catch the ball.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Of course, I'm not annointing Austin/Bryant the new best duo just yet.

 

[Concept Coop]

Bryant needs some work, but Miles looks to be one of the best WRs in the NFL. The guy has game.

This is getting silly? What about yesterday tells you that he "needs work"?

Every receiver in NFL history needed some work after their first game. That's not an insult, that's just reality.

Which is fine, if you acknowledge that you are basing that statement off of that assumption. I will say this and be done (again): Dez did everything the play calling, throws, and Oline allowed him to do: Catch the ball.

 

[basher]

I thought there were a couple times last night where Bryant looked like he was in over his head. Hands looked suspect on out patterns where it seems like he heard footsteps. With that being said he had a very nice first game and he clearly has boatloads of talent. Maybe in a year or two they become the best duo in the NFL but quite early to say the day has come.

 

[The Doctor]

I wasnt impressed with Dez

Austin on the other hand.. Yes

 

[Kiddnets]

I was thrilled with the many targets to Dez - its clear Romo trusts him and will go to him more each week - the kid is a rook with no preseason....buy now, he will be a legit #2 in a few weeks and a #1 WR (top 12-14) next year...Dallas has great skill players....now lets talk about that coaching staff and OL.....

 

[humpback]

What are you talking about? 5 yards on every route? That is silly. Really silly. Why didn't the Cowboys pass it to Austin on every play? How can you even see every route, unless you have game film? The only time he was 5 yards open was a blown assignment. It is also silly to compare a quick burst player like Austin, to a long stride player like Bryant. Welker would have looked better than a prime TO last night. That has more to do with the situation that it does the wideout.

Austin ran more routes across the field, against zone coverage. Aside from the dumb, no gain play calls, most of Bryant's stuff was in the 8 - 12 yard range.

Lastly, nobody is arguing that Bryant is better than Austin. Austin had an amazing game. But again, Bryant did what the playcalling and O-line allowed him to do, which was catch the ball.

That's what a lot of people would like to know. Not every play obviously, but I have big time issues with the playcalling last night. I have to assume Jerry is butting in here again, trying to get his new toy involved more often than he should be at this point.

 

[Manster]

i'd say the potential is there.

Dez has great hands. 1st game, he played well considering the loud, hostile environment. he will get the targets. skies the limit.

Austin picked up where he left off last season. dude is a beast.

 

[abe froman]

I thought Dez looked great. Still too early to break anything down but at the end of the day I like that he runs angry. He wants the ball which is huge for a rookie, he doesnt go down easy -slammed Landry down early in the game, just he is a big physical WR and I think at the end of the year this thread will be true. Witten has to lose a little productivity as a result. Austin will get his, Dez will do better than most expect -top 25.

 

[VaCatFan]

I didn't get to see the whole game, but Bryant did ok. He's a rookie. I didn't expect a huge game out of him. He caught most of what was thrown at him and played the game, which is better than many rookies do (Crabtree). He just didn't have a chance to do much with it. As to the best WR duo in the league, no, not yet by a stretch. I expect Bryant to continue to learn his trade and get better. Whether he can be Randy Moss freakish or not still remains to be seen.

 

[az_prof]

Dez got a boatload of targets, but did he really look good? Looked pretty pedestrian to me. I'm not making sweeping judgments based off of one game and going so far as to call him pedestrian, I'm just saying... I don't know if we were watching the same game, because I didn't come away from that saying "man, Dez Bryant sure looked good tonight".Austin, on the other hand, is a near-mythic heathen he-beast who exists solely to pillage touchdowns from hapless secondaries. He's a modern-day Grendel, and there's nary a Beowulf at hand to bring cessation to his reign of despair as he crests the feeble bulwarks erected by piteous defensive backs and carries on unabated into the end zone.

This about sums up my response too, but to be fair, Dez is still a rookie. He did a good job of catching but he didn't do much with the ball in his hands. Austin has great hands and seems to have a knack for getting good RAC.If I am a Cowboys fan though I have to be concerned how ineffecient that offense was overall. They really need to address the mental mistakes and the offensive line; it will affect the skill position players too.

 

[Banger]

Hopefully others will feel the way some in this thread do and didn't think Bryant looked all that good. I'll be trying to get him in each league I play in.

This was his 1st game against real NFLers in a game and it was in Washington on Sunday night. You can tell he's going to be terrific and that the Cowboys will give him every opportunity to prove them right.

 

[RobMexico]

They look good, but not as good as Moss & WW

Got that combo in 2 outta 3 leagues.Austin/Bryant could be great in years to come, but they won't hold that honor this year.

 

[Ridgelake]

A few thoughts.

1) They are not the best today. Moss and Welker, among others, are better.

2) There are a lot of very talented young WR corps in the NFC East. NYG with Nicks, Smith, Manningham and others. Philly with Jackson, Maclin, Celek. I'm sure many teams are envious of these 3 franchises.

3) Jerry seems to be finally hitting on something he's wanted for a long time. Two exceptional WRs that are interchangeable and heavily threaten a defense. Back in the late 90's he traded 2 first roundeds to pair Joey Galloway with Michael Irvin. That lasted about a quarter until Galloway blew out his knee. Irvin then went down with his spinal cord injury and retired. Jerry's 2nd attempt came with trading a 1st and 3rd rounder to pair Roy Williams with TO. Roy flamed out early and TO's skills declined and he was let go. The development of Miles Austin gave Jerry another elite receiver in their desired mold of 6'2" 215 lbs big, physical receiver. Roy fits that physical description too, but he had proven ordinary. But along comes Dez. Same proto-type. And he appears that he can play. So it appears that jerry is finally getting something that he's tried to put together for over a decade. As a Cowboy fan, I'm looking forward to watching this pair for the next few years. They are very, very good.

 

[abe froman]

Again not only a rookie but really had no preseason work. Im not impressed by his catching passes alone. Thats his job. If you watched the game there were a few passes that didnt give him any opportunity -not in stride and I think there were 3 quick passes at the line where the defenders hit him immediately. Again what impressed me was him fighting to move forward. Hes big and didnt look to avoid defenders last night, he was trying to go through them. I passed on him in every league due to his ADP and am a die hard Browns fan but Im really going to go after this guy now.

 

[SSOG]

What was unimpressive about the rookie? I did not see the game but am curious on how he looked. Was he slow, hesitant, ordinary, bobble passes, shy away from contact...etc?

They just didn't give him any opportunities to put his talent to work. They kept force-feeding him bubble screens at the LoS and letting him try to make a move, and he never did. He averaged 7 yards per reception, which is practically microscopic. He just never made anything happen.Here's a list of Bryant's targets:

1-10-WAS37 (12:31) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short right to D.Bryant to WAS 35 for 2 yards (R.McIntosh, A.Carter).

2-8-WAS35 (11:48) T.Romo pass short right to D.Bryant to WAS 36 for -1 yards (D.Hall).

1-10-WAS23 52) T.Romo pass short right to D.Bryant to WAS 24 for -1 yards (D.Hall, L.Fletcher).

3-13-WAS37 (1:54) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete deep left to D.Bryant.

2-8-DAL32 22) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete deep left to D.Bryant (P.Buchanon) [b.Orakpo].

3-8-DAL32 16) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short right to D.Bryant ran ob at DAL 46 for 14 yards.

1-10-DAL46 11) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete short right to D.Bryant.

3-9-WAS48 (7:03) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short left to D.Bryant to WAS 42 for 6 yards (L.Landry).

2-6-WAS30 (4:26) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to D.Bryant to WAS 22 for 8 yards (A.Carter, R.Doughty).

1-10-DAL19 (1:45) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to D.Bryant to DAL 34 for 15 yards (L.Landry).

1-10-DAL34 (1:18) (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete short left to D.Bryant.

2-10-DAL34 (1:13) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass short middle to D.Bryant to DAL 47 for 13 yards (R.Doughty).

2-10-WAS43 27) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete short middle to D.Bryant (L.Landry).

Notes:

*the 14 yard catch-and-run on 3rd and 8 looks impressive in the game log, but the truth is it came against a prevent defense that was more than happy to let Dallas waste game time dinking and dunking before the half.

*Dez also had an OPI penalty called on him.

Wow, a little harsh by a lot of people. It's the guys 1st NFL game....he barely played in preseason...to me he gobbled up every ball thrown near him, showed great hands and you could tell how green he was by Romo yapping at him constantly. I came away pretty impressed by him.

I'm not being harsh. I'm not saying that Dez played poorly, or that he's going to be a bust, or that we should trade him for Mark Clayton in dynasty leagues while we still can, I'm just saying that I don't see how anyone could look at that game and say "wow, Dez looked good out there tonight". If I had to come up with a description for Dez's game, I'd say "completely unremarkable in every aspect except for number of targets". I don't understand how anyone could have watched that game and felt differently. Surely there will be plenty of remarkable games in this kid's future, but last night certainly wasn't one of them.

You should watch the game again. You will realize that there wasn't room for him to show much. 3 step drops, just about the whole game. Even the TD to Austin was blown coverage. Everything else was underneath the zone. When Washington played man-to-man on the corners, the pressure got to Romo before anyone could create seperation and that includes Austin.

He did what the offensive playcalling and Oline allowed him to do: catch the ball.

Exactly, he did what the playcalling and O-Line allowed him to do... and not a single iota more. How does that qualify as a "good game", exactly? To me, that seems like the very definition of an average performance- taking exactly what you were given, no more and no less.Look, Dez's first 3 receptions went for a grand total of 0 yards. Somehow, I don't think that's exactly how Dallas drew it up. I'm sure Dallas was hoping for something more like "get it in his hands immediately and let him make somebody miss" and less like "get it in his hands immediately and watch him get tackled for a loss of one". Dez didn't make anybody miss. He didn't break any tackles. He didn't make any exceptional grabs. He didn't put any sick moves on any defenders to get open. I can't for the life of me fathom how anyone could say that he had a great game, unless their definition of a "great game" is "getting a ton of targets, doing very little with them, and never once making a play above and beyond what could be expected of an average NFL-caliber WR".

Is there reasons for optimism going forward? Absolutely, starting with that massive target total. But there's a huge difference between saying "Boy, I think Dez Bryant is going to be good this year" and saying "Boy, Dez Bryant sure looked good last night". In my mind, anyone who thinks Bryant looked great last night is suffering from a severe case of confirmation bias- they're only seeing what they want to see.