did anybody hear Chad Johnson on sirius? (1 Viewer)

[pinda]

POSTED 9:08 p.m. EST, December 28, 2007

STINKO SPEAKS OUT ON SIRIUS

After keeping his mouth shut for most of the past couple of months, Bengals receiver Chad Johnson a/k/a Ocho Cinco a/k/a Ocho Stinko was interviewed Friday on Sirius NFL Radio by Adam Schein and Ross Tucker.

Though we didn't hear the whole thing (we're trying to get audio clips or a transcript), Johnson was talking openly about not being with the team in 2008.

In fact, its sounded as if he's resigned to the fact that he won't be back. At times, we got the impression that he wants to go to a new team.

We'll get more info on what he actually said, and we'll be posting it here.

 

[Cookiemonster]

POSTED 9:08 p.m. EST, December 28, 2007

STINKO SPEAKS OUT ON SIRIUS

After keeping his mouth shut for most of the past couple of months, Bengals receiver Chad Johnson a/k/a Ocho Cinco a/k/a Ocho Stinko was interviewed Friday on Sirius NFL Radio by Adam Schein and Ross Tucker.

Though we didn't hear the whole thing (we're trying to get audio clips or a transcript), Johnson was talking openly about not being with the team in 2008.

In fact, its sounded as if he's resigned to the fact that he won't be back. At times, we got the impression that he wants to go to a new team.

We'll get more info on what he actually said, and we'll be posting it here.

Most likely destinations?He's not an UFA, so does he have much say in where he goes? From my quick look, he seems to have a pretty cap friendly salary (for the team that recieves him) topping out at like 5.75 in '10 or '11. Buffalo? D.C.? Baltimore (if they ever get a decent QB)? Could St Louis go after him if they release Bruce? I'm sure a lot of teams would like to get their hands on this guy.

Okay, so Cincy's FO might be smart enough to not deal Chad to Baltimore, but I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[EBF]

To New England for a 4th rounder?

Gotta love how a guy who catches 80 balls for 1,200 yards every year is suddenly public enemy number one.

 

[pinda]

as a joke he mentioned Miami last week, KC would be in play, Jacksonville, Jets (if they release Coles), Indy, Oakland, Philly, Washington, Tampa, Atlanta, SF, Minny, Chicago (if Berrian leaves)...........i'd say my money is on Tennessee, they'd probably give up a 1st too

 

[Footballg]

I'd wet myself if the Pats got Chad --- goodbye, Stallworth. I can't believe a 4th is all it would take.

edit: I wonder if they'd take Stallworth.

 

[Despyzer]

I'd wet myself if the Pats got Chad --- goodbye, Stallworth. I can't believe a 4th is all it would take.edit: I wonder if they'd take Stallworth.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I'd wet myself if the Pats got Chad --- goodbye, Stallworth. I can't believe a 4th is all it would take.edit: I wonder if they'd take Stallworth.

I don't think anybody has even begun talking trade, and I'm sure it'd take more than a 4th. That remark was made more in reference to Moss, I'm sure.

 

[coolnerd]

If Chad Johnson is really available then teams that don't need a WR will suddenly have interest in acquiring one. there is some question as to what he is behind the scenes, but whether its for his ego or the betterment of a team he does show-up once the ball is kicked-offed.

 

[eagles2007]

as a joke he mentioned Miami last week, KC would be in play, Jacksonville, Jets (if they release Coles), Indy, Oakland, Philly, Washington, Tampa, Atlanta, SF, Minny, Chicago (if Berrian leaves)...........i'd say my money is on Tennessee, they'd probably give up a 1st too

no way he comes to the eagles

 

[Jason Wood]

A guy like Chad Johnson will have PLENTY of suitors; it really just comes down to a) how "done" Marvin Lewis is with his antics and b) whether Cincy is willing to take draft compensation that doesn't equate to what they think is fair for a multiple Pro Bowl receiver.

 

[softball]

A guy like Chad Johnson will have PLENTY of suitors; it really just comes down to a) how "done" Marvin Lewis is with his antics and b) whether Cincy is willing to take draft compensation that doesn't equate to what they think is fair for a multiple Pro Bowl receiver.

Also depends on if Marvin is done....and do not be surprised if he is.Chad would have teams falling all over him, but team #1 IF Hue Jackson stays is Atlanta, from there it's anyones guess.And if the Bengals are done with him they already know, I would not play him this week if I were them, who needs a Drew Brees redo?

 

[Phurfur]

Personally I would not want this guy on my team, he is not a team player and if unhappy (like TO and Moss) he is a pain in the butt. Ask SF, Philly, Minn, Oak, and Cin.

 

[Da Guru]

I heard last week from a Detroit writer that Cinci wants to get rid of Johnson..so this should work out well for both.

CJ is upset that TJ took over as Palmers go to guy.

 

[Sugar Huddle]

There's no way CJ is traded. The salary cap hit would be huge and no team would be willing to part with the draft picks the Bengals would ask for to give up a superstar WR in his prime who also carries a huge cap hit for his current team. This is all rumor and speculation fueled by a very disappointing season and CJ's loss of focus during the losing -- we all know he is very emotional. I expect that once a little time has passed, the frustration of the '07 season will diminish somewhat and be replaced by a determination by all of the Bengals players and coaches to make the '08 season a winning one. And this will start with an overhaul at some key positions, specifically on the D-line and at LB but not at WR.

 

[dornado]

Did something change? is PFT all of the sudden a credible source?

Seems to me the standard used to be PFT = "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT"

 

[Despyzer]

Did something change? is PFT all of the sudden a credible source?

Seems to me the standard used to be PFT = "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT"

ProFootballTalk.com and Chris Mortensen of ESPN both reported rumors that Chad Johnson might be leaving Cincinnati after this season. Due to the length of his contract, it would have to be via trade.link

 

[Despyzer]

Here's some more:

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen said on “Sunday NFL Countdown” that sources within the Bengals organization told him that Johnson could be traded in the offseason.

Now that is the popular topic of discussion in the Queen City.

Recently, Mark Curnutte wrote on his blog - Chad Johnson’s reaction in the parking lot.

“There is always truth in something,” he said.

You heard the trade rumor. Does that bother you?

“There’s always truth to something,” he said.

How much truth?

“That’s the key.”

Johnson also said he would not be surprised if he were traded because “this is a dirty business.”

 

[dornado]

Did something change? is PFT all of the sudden a credible source?

Seems to me the standard used to be PFT = "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT"

ProFootballTalk.com and Chris Mortensen of ESPN both reported rumors that Chad Johnson might be leaving Cincinnati after this season. Due to the length of his contract, it would have to be via trade.link

I don't understand what the eye roll was for. I'm not allowed to question a source like Pro Football Talk? Were you personally offended that I remember them as having a less-than-reliable reputation?

The extra link helped verify the story... that's great... and your post should have stopped there.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

He's probably going nowhere.

And looking at San Diego giving a 2nd for Chambers,

I think it will need to be much more

than a 4th if anyone wants to land Chad Johnson.

 

[Our Gang]

I heard the interview. From Chad's point of view, some things where leaked to the press that only Chad and team officials new about. Chad was adament that he wanted to be a bengal next season and didn't want to leave and loved being a bengal but that a team official called him "a cancer" to the press. His analogy was that there is no way to cure a cancer and the only thing to do to fix the problem would be to get rid of it.

 

[Despyzer]

I don't understand what the eye roll was for. I'm not allowed to question a source like Pro Football Talk? Were you personally offended that I remember them as having a less-than-reliable reputation?The extra link helped verify the story... that's great... and your post should have stopped there.

The eye roll was for not being able to google the story just like anyone else. You criticize PFT for being unreliable, but you are too lazy to do a simple search engine check to verify that information for yourself. Not everything that comes from PFT is garbage, but just bashing something in complete ignorance definitely is. Your posts should have stopped before you hit "Add Reply".

 

[Phurfur]

There's no way CJ is traded. The salary cap hit would be huge and no team would be willing to part with the draft picks the Bengals would ask for to give up a superstar WR in his prime who also carries a huge cap hit for his current team. This is all rumor and speculation fueled by a very disappointing season and CJ's loss of focus during the losing -- we all know he is very emotional. I expect that once a little time has passed, the frustration of the '07 season will diminish somewhat and be replaced by a determination by all of the Bengals players and coaches to make the '08 season a winning one. And this will start with an overhaul at some key positions, specifically on the D-line and at LB but not at WR.

I don't put him in the superstar catagory.

 

[The Pitbull]

To New England for a 4th rounder?

I know you say that in jest, but dont be surprised if NE and/or Indy show interest in him. A trend may have been started with the Moss/Stallworth signings, of players willing to take a pay cut and play on one year deals for their shot at a ring. Belichick and Johnson do have a very friendly relationship.However... Im not sure that New England would have (or be willing to give up) enough to bring in another high profile WR. Especially with the loss of that extra first rounder they had.

 

[Footballg]

To New England for a 4th rounder?

I know you say that in jest, but dont be surprised if NE and/or Indy show interest in him. A trend may have been started with the Moss/Stallworth signings, of players willing to take a pay cut and play on one year deals for their shot at a ring. Belichick and Johnson do have a very friendly relationship.However... Im not sure that New England would have (or be willing to give up) enough to bring in another high profile WR. Especially with the loss of that extra first rounder they had.

Johnson wouldn't have to take any pay cut if Cincy would take Stallworth and a pick.

 

[Road Warriors]

Personally I would not want this guy on my team, he is not a team player and if unhappy (like TO and Moss) he is a pain in the butt. Ask SF, Philly, Minn, Oak, and Cin.

OTOH, a happy CJ is a productive CJ ( again, like TO & Moss ). Ask NE and DAL how that worked out.

 

[zoonation]

Personally I would not want this guy on my team, he is not a team player and if unhappy (like TO and Moss) he is a pain in the butt. Ask SF, Philly, Minn, Oak, and Cin.

Don't forget to ask the 2 conference champions this year as well.

 

[the spanker]

There's no way CJ is traded. The salary cap hit would be huge and no team would be willing to part with the draft picks the Bengals would ask for to give up a superstar WR in his prime who also carries a huge cap hit for his current team. This is all rumor and speculation fueled by a very disappointing season and CJ's loss of focus during the losing -- we all know he is very emotional. I expect that once a little time has passed, the frustration of the '07 season will diminish somewhat and be replaced by a determination by all of the Bengals players and coaches to make the '08 season a winning one. And this will start with an overhaul at some key positions, specifically on the D-line and at LB but not at WR.

Would the Tuna give up the number one pick in some sort of package deal?

 

[The Pitbull]

Johnson wouldn't have to take any pay cut if Cincy would take Stallworth and a pick.

NE is not going to pay Stallworth (that is pretty widely known) he will be due a ridiculous amount of $ in '08. He is essentially playing on a one year deal for them. Even if they traded for CJ (highly unlikely), they would still ask him to restructure the deal similar to what they did with Moss. Pioli likes to set contracts up with a ton of trap doors for NE to get out from under them if they go bad.

 

[Banger]

There's no way CJ is traded. The salary cap hit would be huge and no team would be willing to part with the draft picks the Bengals would ask for to give up a superstar WR in his prime who also carries a huge cap hit for his current team. This is all rumor and speculation fueled by a very disappointing season and CJ's loss of focus during the losing -- we all know he is very emotional. I expect that once a little time has passed, the frustration of the '07 season will diminish somewhat and be replaced by a determination by all of the Bengals players and coaches to make the '08 season a winning one. And this will start with an overhaul at some key positions, specifically on the D-line and at LB but not at WR.

Would the Tuna give up the number one pick in some sort of package deal?

not a chance.

 

[Schrute]

Did something change? is PFT all of the sudden a credible source?

Seems to me the standard used to be PFT = "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT"

ProFootballTalk.com and Chris Mortensen of ESPN both reported rumors that Chad Johnson might be leaving Cincinnati after this season. Due to the length of his contract, it would have to be via trade.link

I don't understand what the eye roll was for. I'm not allowed to question a source like Pro Football Talk? Were you personally offended that I remember them as having a less-than-reliable reputation?

The extra link helped verify the story... that's great... and your post should have stopped there.

How is PFT's credibility even relevant here???? All they said was what they heard CJ say in an interview on the radio.

 

[Footballg]

Johnson wouldn't have to take any pay cut if Cincy would take Stallworth and a pick.

NE is not going to pay Stallworth (that is pretty widely known) he will be due a ridiculous amount of $ in '08. He is essentially playing on a one year deal for them. Even if they traded for CJ (highly unlikely), they would still ask him to restructure the deal similar to what they did with Moss. Pioli likes to set contracts up with a ton of trap doors for NE to get out from under them if they go bad.

I really think that's misleading to compare all contracts to Moss. Watch and see the deal he gets this offseason. It's true that they might want to restructure Chad's deal, depending on the #'s, but restructuring /= pay cut. I actually have no idea what Chad's deal looks like, however, I'm just going by something mentioned in an earlier post. Reality is, this is all probably a pipe dream.

 

[QuizGuy66]

A guy like Chad Johnson will have PLENTY of suitors; it really just comes down to a) how "done" Marvin Lewis is with his antics and b) whether Cincy is willing to take draft compensation that doesn't equate to what they think is fair for a multiple Pro Bowl receiver.

Also depends on if Marvin is done....and do not be surprised if he is.Chad would have teams falling all over him, but team #1 IF Hue Jackson stays is Atlanta, from there it's anyones guess.

And if the Bengals are done with him they already know, I would not play him this week if I were them, who needs a Drew Brees redo?

0) This is recycled from October 21. http://blogs.bengalszone.com/?p=727I knew that quote from the Mortenson article was old. This all came out the week after the trade deadline this season.

1) Let's be real - unless the team trading for him turned around and THEN traded him to New England we won't be going there. The wishful thinkers may think the Dillon situation = Chad situation but it's not even close in terms of the available replacement as well as how many years are left in his career.

2) If they were to not play him in his hometown of Miami, then it'd be no longer a trade rumor it'd be a fact. They'll play him and he'll probably play his best game of the year.

3) Atlanta makes some sense as a destination - if they were willing to trade that top 5 pick (seriously). I'd see the '08 2nd rounder and '09 first rounder as a less likely option.

4) The Chad is jealous of TJ stuff just seems ridiculous - this isn't Wayne Chrebet-Keyshawn Johnson. They've been teammates since college. Also, they are #1 and #2 in targets.

-QG

 

[Despyzer]

The Chad is jealous of TJ stuff just seems ridiculous

Agreed. That's why it seems so likely in this situation.

 

[The Pitbull]

Johnson wouldn't have to take any pay cut if Cincy would take Stallworth and a pick.

NE is not going to pay Stallworth (that is pretty widely known) he will be due a ridiculous amount of $ in '08. He is essentially playing on a one year deal for them. Even if they traded for CJ (highly unlikely), they would still ask him to restructure the deal similar to what they did with Moss. Pioli likes to set contracts up with a ton of trap doors for NE to get out from under them if they go bad.

I really think that's misleading to compare all contracts to Moss. Watch and see the deal he gets this offseason.

I'm not talking about the figures (when comparing them)... I'm just talking about the clauses. The Patriots typically like to build in escape clauses. I'm not sure what CJ's deal looks like either, so it may be that they wouldn't ask him to take less. But he would no doubt have to restructure under their (NE's) terms.But like I said... there is virtually ZERO chance Stallworth will be retained by NE in '08, so the deal proposed above is not very realistic anyway, and I dont think NE has the picks unless they move down in the draft via trade.

 

[dornado]

I don't understand what the eye roll was for. I'm not allowed to question a source like Pro Football Talk? Were you personally offended that I remember them as having a less-than-reliable reputation?The extra link helped verify the story... that's great... and your post should have stopped there.

The eye roll was for not being able to google the story just like anyone else. You criticize PFT for being unreliable, but you are too lazy to do a simple search engine check to verify that information for yourself. Not everything that comes from PFT is garbage, but just bashing something in complete ignorance definitely is. Your posts should have stopped before you hit "Add Reply".

Well, captain computer, maybe I didn't feel like googling the story... that's neither here nor there. My point was that PFT had a past reputation of being unreliable. I never said that everything that came from them was garbage, and I was not bashing something in ignorance. I was simply asking for more proof. Get over yourself.

 

[Buckna]

There's no way CJ is traded. The salary cap hit would be huge and no team would be willing to part with the draft picks the Bengals would ask for to give up a superstar WR in his prime who also carries a huge cap hit for his current team. This is all rumor and speculation fueled by a very disappointing season and CJ's loss of focus during the losing -- we all know he is very emotional. I expect that once a little time has passed, the frustration of the '07 season will diminish somewhat and be replaced by a determination by all of the Bengals players and coaches to make the '08 season a winning one. And this will start with an overhaul at some key positions, specifically on the D-line and at LB but not at WR.

I don't put him in the superstar catagory.

You'd be one of the few.

 

[fatness]

POSTED 9:08 p.m. EST, December 28, 2007

STINKO SPEAKS OUT ON SIRIUS

....Though we didn't hear the whole thing (we're trying to get audio clips or a transcript)..........

Um, does anyone know what Johnson actually said in the interview?

 

[Despyzer]

Well, captain computer, maybe I didn't feel like googling the story... that's neither here nor there. My point was that PFT had a past reputation of being unreliable. I never said that everything that came from them was garbage, and I was not bashing something in ignorance. I was simply asking for more proof. Get over yourself.

It was a douchey move on your part. You thought you were going to be cute and snarky by jumping on the PFT Sucks wagon. You continue to prove your douchiness by trying to rationalize your behavior.

 

[Buckna]

We can go back to calling them the Bungles if they trade away Chad.

 

[Novice2]

as a joke he mentioned Miami last week, KC would be in play, Jacksonville, Jets (if they release Coles), Indy, Oakland, Philly, Washington, Tampa, Atlanta, SF, Minny, Chicago (if Berrian leaves)...........i'd say my money is on Tennessee, they'd probably give up a 1st too

no way he comes to the eagles

Because we all know the Eagles ''are fine at WR''

 

[Banger]

as a joke he mentioned Miami last week, KC would be in play, Jacksonville, Jets (if they release Coles), Indy, Oakland, Philly, Washington, Tampa, Atlanta, SF, Minny, Chicago (if Berrian leaves)...........i'd say my money is on Tennessee, they'd probably give up a 1st too

no way he comes to the eagles

Because we all know the Eagles ''are fine at WR''

seriously. The last time they had a good wr they went to the superbowl.

 

[JuniorNB]

as a joke he mentioned Miami last week, KC would be in play, Jacksonville, Jets (if they release Coles), Indy, Oakland, Philly, Washington, Tampa, Atlanta, SF, Minny, Chicago (if Berrian leaves)...........i'd say my money is on Tennessee, they'd probably give up a 1st too

no way he comes to the eagles

Because we all know the Eagles ''are fine at WR''

I could definitely see Philly making a play for him.

 

[thayman]

I heard last week from a Detroit writer that Cinci wants to get rid of Johnson..so this should work out well for both.CJ is upset that TJ took over as Palmers go to guy.

Link?

 

[dornado]

Well, captain computer, maybe I didn't feel like googling the story... that's neither here nor there. My point was that PFT had a past reputation of being unreliable. I never said that everything that came from them was garbage, and I was not bashing something in ignorance. I was simply asking for more proof. Get over yourself.

It was a douchey move on your part. You thought you were going to be cute and snarky by jumping on the PFT Sucks wagon. You continue to prove your douchiness by trying to rationalize your behavior.

You started this nonsense with your rolling eyes... there's nothing "douchey" about questioning a source. Especially a source that refers to players as "el stinko"..... Absolutely nothing... and, because of that, there is nothing to rationalize. My comments were directed towards the forum generally for clarification... your "eye roll" was directed at me because apparently you had some problem... You were the one offended by either 1) me not taking PFT for sacred truth or 2) not launching an internet investigation to validate their claims. Either way, the eye roll was unnecessary. So was the name calling - flex your internet muscles for someone else, I'm not interested.

 

[Despyzer]

Either way, the eye roll was unnecessary. So was the name calling

Whatever you say, "captain computer."

 

[Southside Stosh]

Moose and a 4th to Cinci for Johnson to Da Osos.

 

[Schrute]

Well, captain computer, maybe I didn't feel like googling the story... that's neither here nor there. My point was that PFT had a past reputation of being unreliable. I never said that everything that came from them was garbage, and I was not bashing something in ignorance. I was simply asking for more proof. Get over yourself.

It was a douchey move on your part. You thought you were going to be cute and snarky by jumping on the PFT Sucks wagon. You continue to prove your douchiness by trying to rationalize your behavior.

You started this nonsense with your rolling eyes... there's nothing "douchey" about questioning a source. Especially a source that refers to players as "el stinko"..... Absolutely nothing... and, because of that, there is nothing to rationalize. My comments were directed towards the forum generally for clarification... your "eye roll" was directed at me because apparently you had some problem... You were the one offended by either 1) me not taking PFT for sacred truth or 2) not launching an internet investigation to validate their claims. Either way, the eye roll was unnecessary. So was the name calling - flex your internet muscles for someone else, I'm not interested.

Again, what does PFT's credibility have to do with this? They were simply referring to a radio report that they heard. This can be easily verified, so why the hate for PFT in this particular case? Makes no sense, since all they were doing was pointing out comments CJ made on a radio interview.

 

[Jason Wood]

Guys, let's keep the "PFT Reputation Debate" out of this thread...as others have pointed out, this isn't an op-ed piece by PFT, they merely were one of the first ones to break a local interview. Let's leave the discussion to the topic at hand: reactions to Chad Johnson's comments.

Thanks.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Moose and a 4th to Cinci for Johnson to Da Osos.

Can someone give me a translation?

 

[Bankerguy]

Dallas would be interested for sure. Could you imagine Chad and TO?

OH my f*@k.