Did Collinsworth just make up a load of BS? (1 Viewer)

[Tau837]

Shouldn't matter if a ref blows their whistle or not. WtF is instant replay there for? O wait in Denver they didn't even have instant replay to start with. What a total BS game.

well it does matter because when the whistle blows the play is dead

^ This guy must be an official, or a bookmaker who stood to get roasted if that play stoodAND the first score - I cannot think of any other time when a crew used the Ed Hocules excuse of "replay equipment failure" while we are watching the replay from different angles on the TV Broadcast

You dont have to be a ref to know the rules of the game, and what did you want them to do when the replay equipment wouldnt work, postpone the game for 30 minutes til its fixed? The rules dont allow the ref to run up to the press booth or out to the network truck to review a replay, and even if they did that would be just as ridiculous as delaying the game 30 minutes while they try to fix it.

If this happened more often, it might mean the NFL needs to go to the system used by MLB and NHL - centralized replay review... at least as a backup option.

 

[Tau837]

Yes, Collinsworth is full of crap.#1 - Champ did not recover a fumble. Once both players hit the ground, it was a dead play. Ball belonged to the Chargers.#2 - Cutler fumbled. Hochuli was wrong to blow the whistle, they even had a letter go around to the officials telling them NOT to blow the whistle quickly in those situations, so as to prevent exactly what happened last night. The result of replay was correct, in that since it was blown dead prior to the Chargers recovery, it was DEN ball where blown dead. But, it was wrong to blow the whistle.Two really bad calls, which replay couldn't correct... part of that problem is with replay. An incorrectly blown whistle should not override replay.

According to one explanation on ESPN Radio this morning, it was NOT wrong to blow the whistle IN THIS CASE. Many previous posters have mentioned that last year refs were instructed to let plays carry out before blowing the whistle, and sort things out afterwards, using replay if necessary. But, from what was said (sorry I can't remember who said it) this only applies to fumbles during plays where a player is running with the ball, NOT for incomplete passes (as fumbles).Yes, I understand this is splitting hairs............and yes, I agree, there shouldn't be a distinction..........but, I'm just relaying what I heard. Which means, if Hochuli thought it was an incomplete pass, then he SHOULD NOT HAVE waited to blow the whistle.

OK, so they only blew the fact that it was a fumble and the fact that if deemed a pass it was a backwards lateral and thus should have been considered a live ball... So they only missed it in two ways rather than three.

 

[Tau837]

Didn't the NFL emphasize to the refs LAST YEAR to not blow the play dead and let it play out for review purposes?

IIRC, that was focusing on runners and recievers

I think you guys are thinking of the fact that they made down by contact reviewable, and made it possible for a fumble recovered after the whistle to count. See one of my earlier posts for a quote on that.

 

[jonessed]

Yes, Collinsworth is full of crap.#1 - Champ did not recover a fumble. Once both players hit the ground, it was a dead play. Ball belonged to the Chargers.#2 - Cutler fumbled. Hochuli was wrong to blow the whistle, they even had a letter go around to the officials telling them NOT to blow the whistle quickly in those situations, so as to prevent exactly what happened last night. The result of replay was correct, in that since it was blown dead prior to the Chargers recovery, it was DEN ball where blown dead. But, it was wrong to blow the whistle.Two really bad calls, which replay couldn't correct... part of that problem is with replay. An incorrectly blown whistle should not override replay.

According to one explanation on ESPN Radio this morning, it was NOT wrong to blow the whistle IN THIS CASE. Many previous posters have mentioned that last year refs were instructed to let plays carry out before blowing the whistle, and sort things out afterwards, using replay if necessary. But, from what was said (sorry I can't remember who said it) this only applies to fumbles during plays where a player is running with the ball, NOT for incomplete passes (as fumbles).Yes, I understand this is splitting hairs............and yes, I agree, there shouldn't be a distinction..........but, I'm just relaying what I heard. Which means, if Hochuli thought it was an incomplete pass, then he SHOULD NOT HAVE waited to blow the whistle.

The pass went backwards. Even if he thought that Cutler was in the throwing motion it would still have landed as a live ball. I have no idea how anyone can look at that play and see that it was an incomplete pass. The ball literally flew backwards a yard.