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Did Democrats Transition From Complacent 'Pro-Choice' To No Limit Pro Abortion Extremists? (6/28/22 21:38 PST) (1 Viewer)

GordonGekko

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Direct Headline: Democrats are proving to be the real extremists on abortion

Democrats are salivating over the chance to portray Republicans as antiabortion extremists in the wake of the anticipated overruling of Roe v. Wade. But their unwillingness to accept limits on late-term abortions shows they are the real extremists.

Third-trimester abortions are incredibly unpopular among most Americans. The most recent Economist-YouGov poll, for example, found that only 25 percent of all Americans, and 21 percent of independents, agree that abortion should “always be legal” with “no restrictions.” Yet Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) is scheduling a vote this week on a bill that would effectively make abortion legal without restrictions for the duration of a woman’s pregnancy. Even though he knows the legislation is doomed to fail because of the Senate filibuster, Schumer is pushing his entire caucus to support the highly unpopular proposal, for which opponents will be able to tar them.....In politics, if you’re avoiding a clear answer to a question, it’s usually because you don’t want the public to know what it is....

It might seem strange that Democrats are contorting themselves into pretzels to avoid saying they oppose late-term abortions. But it makes complete sense considering that about half of Democrats believe in no abortion restrictions at all. That total rises to 60 percent among liberal Democrats, according to the most recent ABC News-Post poll, and is surely even higher among the abortion rights activists in the party who are most passionate about the issue....If Democrats express support for their base’s view, they give Republicans a potent issue to use against them. If they express support for the view backed by most Americans and almost all swing voters, they anger that base.....

....That’s just not going to fly, especially in critical races. Republicans will force this question at every opportunity and throw every vote in favor of the Senate bill this week in Democrats’ faces. The more a Democrat tries to waffle, the more foolish they will look. It’s pretty clear to most Americans that a child who can live outside of a mother’s body shouldn’t be killed. The fact that too many Democrats can’t say that without fear of getting ambushed by the left speaks volumes about today’s Democratic Party....

...Matthew Yglesias, a prominent progressive writer and abortion rights supporter, recently said as much in his newsletter. He notes that more than 90 percent of all abortions are performed in the first trimester and that Democrats could preserve access for the vast majority of women who want abortions if they sacrificed the extreme views that so many Americans abhor.....That Democrats are preparing to utterly ignore this counsel is instructive. They are pushing no-limit abortion policy either because they are afraid of their base or because they believe in it. Either way, that’s not the leadership Americans want......

By Henry Olsen May 10, 2022 at 7:05 a.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/10/democrats-proving-to-be-real-extremists-abortion-roe-v-wade/

Direct Headline: Democrats are overreaching in their defence of abortion rights

They could blow a chance to enthuse mid-term voters...Are democrats blowing the chance that the probable overturning of Roe v Wade has given them? ...Yet in vowing to protect abortion rights, Democrats have at times gone further than may be politically wise. On May 11th the Senate voted against the Democrats’ Women’s Health Protection Act (WHPA).... Holding the vote was largely symbolic: the bill stood no chance. Still, two rare pro-choice Republican senators, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, and a Democrat, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, voted against it, saying it went further than Roe....

...Ms Collins said she also disliked the bill because it did not allow Catholic hospitals to refuse to perform abortions. Erin O’Brien, a political scientist at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, reckons it would be “smart” for congressional Democrats to now back the more limited abortion-rights bill drawn up by Senators Collins and Murkowski...described the (WHPA) as having “no limits” on abortion. Yet that fairly (characterizes) the situation in at least four states (Colorado, New Jersey, Oregon, Vermont) and Washington, DC, that have passed laws protecting the right to abortion throughout pregnancy...Those laws stand in sharp contrast to the rest of the rich world. Many European countries have a limit on abortion on demand of 12 or 14 weeks; only two (Britain and the Netherlands) allow it until 24 weeks. Hence Roe itself is comparatively liberal: of 59 countries that allow abortion on demand, America is one of only seven that allow it after 20 weeks of pregnancy.....

Polling suggests that such liberal abortion laws are out of step with public opinion in America. A recent Economist-YouGov poll found that only a quarter of all Americans believe abortion should “always be legal” with “no restrictions”. Gallup polls have repeatedly found that most Americans say abortion on demand should be available in the first trimester (the first 12 weeks) but not thereafter....How might all this affect Democrats’ prospects at the polls? Their failure to push a more moderate line on abortion could harm them, for two reasons.....First, it gives Republicans an opportunity to cast Democrats as the extremists. ....It would be hard to make such claims if Democrats had not dropped the “safe, legal and rare” language adopted by Bill Clinton during his presidential campaign in 1992 ....This leads to the second problem: voters tuning out. Since Donald Trump swore in 2016 that he would appoint conservative justices to overturn Roe, the clash of extremes in America’s abortion war has intensified.....

.....In the longer run, it is progressive states’ relaxed abortion laws that may be most damaging to the left. Though abortions in the second and third trimesters are rare, and even in states where they are permitted some doctors set their own gestational limits, they give anti-abortion activists an easy target.... “Late abortions are abhorrent to voters pretty much across the political spectrum, so that would resonate even in states that protect abortion......”

Economist  May 19th 2022

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/05/15/democrats-are-overreaching-in-their-defence-of-abortion-rights

Direct Headline: Democratic candidates should listen to majority opinion on late-term abortions

What if I told you there’s an issue that unites a clear majority of Americans? What if I told you that at least 60 percent of independents, Republicans, and Democrats agree on that issue? And what if I told you that the Democratic candidates for president are on the wrong side of that issue? That they’re out of step with the party – and the country – they want to lead?

That’s exactly the case with abortion.

By about 3-to-1, Americans oppose abortion after 20 weeks – or don’t want it at all. This includes about 8 in 10 Republicans and independents and nearly 6 in 10 Democrats....This survey also found that 80% of Americans support limiting abortion to at most the first three months of a pregnancy. This included nearly two-thirds of those identifying as pro-choice and a similar number of Democrats (64%)....Few issues command such massive majorities. The revulsion these proposals caused was bipartisan. But, while the polling showed that most Americans strongly opposed policies like those in New York and Virginia, Democratic presidential candidates appear to be doubling down....It wasn’t always like this. The Democratic Party used to have pro-life candidates at every level. Even party leaders once spoke out against abortion often and forcefully....

Ted Kennedy once wrote that “abortion on demand is not in accordance with the value which our civilization places on human life.”...In 1972, George McGovern worked the Democratic National Convention to stop a pro-abortion plank from being included in the party’s platform.....In 1976, Sargent Shriver campaigned in the Iowa caucuses on a pro-life platform, and Jimmy Carter won there, in part, because voters believed he too was pro-life....And in 1981, Sen. Joe Biden voted for the Hatch Amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade and allow states to again restrict abortion....

....It would be better for America – and for the unborn – if Democratic candidates listened to the electorate again. The majority of Democrats deserve representation and not exclusion of their point of view within their own party....The more than 7 in 10 Americans – and 6 in 10 Democrats – who oppose late-term abortions should refuse to support any candidate who holds extreme abortion views....

Carl Anderson 5/2/19

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/caucus/2019/05/02/democrats-should-heed-majority-opinion-late-term-abortions-presidential-race-2020-iowa-caucuses/3650748002/

Direct Headline (SNAPSHOT) : Op-Ed: How the Democratic platform betrays millions of the party faithful

The abortion plank in the 2016 Democratic platform effectively marginalizes the voices of 21 million pro-life Democrats. It means the party that is supposedly on the side of justice for the vulnerable no longer welcomes those of us who #ChooseBoth; that is, those of us who want the government to protect and support prenatal children and their mothers....Most significantly, the platform calls for the repeal of the Hyde and Helms amendments, which prevent taxpayer funds from being used to pay for abortions. This would force those who object to abortion to contribute to what we believe would be government-funded killing, and it would eradicate policies that have already saved hundreds of thousands of lives....

Here are three other ways the 2016 platform betrays Democrats like us: It calls for repeal of all “federal and state laws and policies that impede a woman’s access to abortion.” Support for abortion rights in this platform is deemed “unequivocal.” The platform asserts that “reproductive health” — which includes access to “safe and legal abortion” — is “core to women’s, men’s, and young people’s health and wellbeing.” A commitment to religious liberty in the context of abortion, which was included in the 2012 platform, has been removed.....U.S. abortion law (which permits abortion for any reason until viability, about 22 to 23 weeks) already makes many progressive countries in Europe (which set their threshold for abortion at 12 to 13 weeks) look like pro-life radicals. Now the Democratic platform pushes the party to roll back even the very modest abortion regulations currently on the books....

In the 2008 presidential primary campaign, candidate Hillary Clinton said abortion should be safe, legal and rare. “And by rare,” Clinton emphasized, “I mean rare.” Yet her 2016 platform team has approved provisions that make access to abortion crucial to the well-being of every single person on the planet....The Democratic Party’s abortion stances have already caused many to leave the party, and many more will drop out because of the platform wording. The percentage of extreme abortion rights advocates is increasing in the party, but only because the total number of Democrats has shrunk to its lowest level since the Hoover administration....Abortion is also among the reasons Democrats lost their majority in the House of Representatives. In the key states of Ohio and Pennsylvania, for example, Democrats held the majority of seats until Republicans were able to associate the Affordable Care Act with “the largest expansion of abortion since Roe v. Wade.”...

....He wasn’t alone: Sixty-four Democrats voted for the antiabortion Stupak amendment to the Affordable Care Act; 88% of those seats went to Republicans after Democrats were tied to the assertion that Obamacare funded abortion. Former Democratic Rep. Jim Oberstar of Minnesota, who lost his bid for reelection, noted that antiabortion voters didn’t stop sending people to Congress: “They just stopped sending Democrats....”....To beat Donald Trump, the Democratic Party needs to carry swing states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, where radical support for abortion rights has been proven to drive away voters. The party also has been working hard to turn traditionally red states like Texas blue or at least purple, and abortion-rights extremism won’t help that cause either....

By Kristen Day and Charles Camosy July 25, 2016 5 AM PT

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-day-and-camosy-democratic-platform-abortion-20160725-snap-story.html

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"Are there any limits on abortion you would find appropriate?"

John Fetterman: “I don’t believe so, no."

PA Senate candidate John Fetterman wants NO LIMITS on abortion

3:13 PM · Jun 26, 2022

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1541182797376782347

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Stacey Abrams supports NO LIMITS on abortion. Q: “Do you support any limitation on abortion? Or do you think that women should have the right to have an abortion all the way up to nine months?” ABRAMS: “That should be a choice made between a doctor and a woman.”

Democrat Stacey Abrams supports NO LIMITS on abortion

7:29 AM · Jun 26, 2022

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1541066198074490880

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Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "Not every Democrat is pro-choice...we really need to reassess if it's appropriate for them to continue to serve."

9:20 PM · Jun 25, 2022

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1540912814054842368

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"Abortion should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare." - Bill Clinton,  DNC 1996

"Frankly, I'm fed up with politicians in Washington lecturing the rest of us about family values. Our families have values. But our government doesn’t."  - Bill Clinton, DNC 1992

"The price of doing the same old thing is far higher than the price of change." - Bill Clinton

For a man accused so many times of being a rapist, it's interesting that Bill Clinton said something so poignant about abortion and women's rights. ( Short answer - It was Dee Dee Myers' behind the scenes brilliance at work )

So what happened to "Safe, Legal And Rare?"

Because it's become more than clear that Team Blue has shifted from Pro Choice ( which didn't automatically assert someone absolutely had to have an abortion) to their recent Women's Health Protection Act bill that included nullifying all previous state laws on the books regarding abortion, removing parental consent considerations for minors in abortion issues, essentially allowing abortion "up to the moment of birth" and codifying that actual taxpayer dollars would be used to help facilitate abortions. None of this is what the majority of Americans support.

What is the WHPA? It's a "wish list" that's designed to never get passed so the Democratic Party can go into the national daily media cycle and shout that the GOP doesn't care about women's rights and wants all teenage girls who were raped to be chained down in a kitchen and forced to have a baby against her will as they beg for donation dollars. The problem is Democrats in office voted for it. And by many of them voting for it, it becomes their official position on these matters.

So what's the problem? AOC makes it clear - Some Democrats are actually Pro Life in secret and they need to be purged from the Party ranks. So the hard left radicals like AOC and her ilk need to be appeased because their votes, and their followers' votes are needed. If establishment Democrats say in public they are supporting what the majority of Americans want, literally the complete opposite of the WHPA, they will anger and lose those woke voters. If they keep the course and push this Pro Abortion stance, they lose 20+ million Pro Life Democrats as voters who feel betrayed and they create a natural media narrative for the GOP to use against them.

Matt Yglesias, an actual Pro Choice leftist, points out that there is an actual obligation by the Democratic Party to protect the majority of abortion rights for the majority of women, even at the sacrifice of the most extremist Pro Abortion views within the Party ranks.

The end result is a show of utter weakness. Establishment Democrats believing they are held hostage by the most radical elements in office at the cost of ignoring the will of the people they are obligated to actually serve. And the problem doesn't end there, this issue will trigger apathy in liberal voters to not show up to future elections, it also casts a complicated situation for actual future POTUS contenders like John Fetterman and Stacey Abrams where the only pathway is lose/lose for a full on general election cycle. And it will empower the Progressives, which will increase their ranks, fund raising and reach, to the point where the hostage situation only gets worse and worse. Look at the staggering losses in Congress under the Obama regime, where the ACA was seen as being too abortion friendly, as a test case.

But who are the actual casualties here? It's the American people. Hard working every day people just trying to get by in life and be a part of our society are being ignored and their wants and needs are taken for granted. Why? So Team Blue can have a wedge issue for fund raising and way to demonize their political opponents?

Jonathan Turley discusses one of the most critical issues - The people, no matter their political belief system and no matter whom they vote for, deserve a straight answer out of their elected officials. Tell it to the people straight, tell them what you mean, and where you stand.

Did the actual Pro Choice movement (where abortion wasn't treated like a blank check absolute) die in the eyes of Team Blue's elected officials?  Or were they cast out for not being politically expedient enough for the sake of grift and power hungry designs?

What happened to "Safe, Legal And Rare?"  Where do liberals who hold to that go to now? What about the Pro Life Democrats? Where is their voice? Did Roe effectively disenfranchise them 50 years ago?

When will the unshockingly complacent Democratic Party hold itself accountable for not making a real push to codify Roe V Wade into federal law when they had the opportunities to do so?

What does it say that Bill Clinton, a man accused endlessly of rape himself and sexual scandal, represents quite possibly the last popular reasonable approach by the Democratic Party that seemed to agree with the actual masses about abortion?

Did Team Blue stray too far from actual public opinion on abortion?

Did Democrats Transition From Complacent 'Pro-Choice' To No Limit Pro Abortion Extremists?

I'll leave this here for others to discuss.

 

GordonGekko

Footballguy
CONTEXTUAL MATERIAL (Team Blue Apathy, Legislative Irresponsibility And Tone Deafness About Abortion) :

Direct Headline: Democrats Push Radical Abortion Bill Far More Expansive Than Roe

The Women’s Health Protection Act would prohibit any government anywhere from doing anything that could, even potentially, reduce the number of abortions....Not only that, it would require every government everywhere to repeal any statutes, regulations, or anything else that may already be on the books that could potentially have that effect....The abortion policy represented by this bill would be far more extreme than what the Supreme Court imposed in Roe. No one with any knowledge of our system of government could possibly think that Congress has the authority to impose such a radical policy....

The Senate on Wednesday is expected to vote on whether to end debate on S 4132, the Women’s Health Protection Act of 2022....Even though a similar vote on the virtually identical HR 3755 failed on Feb. 28, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., quickly set up this repeat in the wake of the leaked first draft of the Supreme Court’s opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization....

Third, the abortion policy represented by this bill would be far more extreme than what the Supreme Court imposed in Roe, which in turn was more extreme than anything the common law or statutes had ever established....The Roe policy of virtually unrestricted abortion is more permissive than all but seven other nations anywhere in the world. And a large majority of Americans have consistently said that more of the abortions that Roe legalized should, in fact, be illegal....

....The Women’s Health Protection Act would also outlaw other measures that the Supreme Court has already upheld after Roe. In Casey, for example, the court upheld a parental consent requirement for minors seeking abortion, recognizing the state’s “important and legitimate interest” in the welfare of minors....The Women’s Health Protection Act , in contrast, lists “parental involvement laws (notification and consent)” among measures that “complicat[e] access to …  abortion services.

Thomas Jipping May 10th, 2022

https://www.heritage.org/life/commentary/democrats-push-radical-abortion-bill-far-more-expansive-roe

Direct Headline: Democrats Aren’t Prepared to Defend Their Abortion Extremism

In a USA Today column earlier this week, law professor Jonathan Turley observed that Democratic politicians are far outside the norm in their desire for unlimited abortion on demand — even as they call their pro-life opponents “extremists.” He cited in particular the recent example of New York City mayor Eric Adams:...Notably, after calling advocates for restricting abortions “extremists,” Adams was asked at an abortion rights rally whether he believed that there should be any limitations on abortion. He answered: “No, I do not.” And he added: “I think women should have the right to choose their bodies. Men should not have that right to choose how a woman should treat their body.....”

....Yet, a majority of Americans support limits on abortion after 15 weeks, according to a Wall Street Journal survey. (The United States is one of only 12 among the world’s 198 countries that allow abortions for any reason after 20 weeks.)... A survey by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research also shows that 65% of Americans would make most abortions usually illegal in the second trimester, and that 80% would make most abortions illegal in the third trimester....Democratic politicians support none of these limits. In fact, nearly every Democratic senator has voted twice so far this year for legislation that would create a supposed fundamental right to abortion, for any reason, throughout pregnancy, and that would nullify nearly all state pro-life laws.....

By Alexandra DeSanctis May 27, 2022 1:18 PM

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/democrats-arent-prepared-to-defend-their-abortion-extremism/

Direct Headline: Who are the extremists? Democrats refuse to say if they'd put any limits on abortion.

...Of course, women will make these highly personal decisions based on a myriad issues, including consultation with physicians. However, in the end, if it is based solely on the decision of the woman, it is the definition of abortion on demand during the full course of a pregnancy....If you do accept limitations, the question becomes what those limits should be and who gets to decide such questions....

....An absolutist position on abortion raises not just constitutional but political difficulties. Take Rep. Ryan's position. In Ohio, polls indicate that the public is split 48%-47% between those who believe abortion should be entirely legal or largely illegal....Ryan's answer, therefore, alarmed political and media figures worried about his effort to secure the Senate seat for Democrats....However, Ryan answered a predictable, straightforward question on the issue without hesitation. He, like Mayor Adams, denounced "any limits to abortion." "Special Report" host Bret Baier followed up with a question about limits on abortion, and Ryan replied, "Look, you've got to leave it up to the woman."....Baier responded, "So no is the answer?"

....That is not true. Ryan stated that this is a matter that needs to be left entirely to the woman – a position expressly rejected in both the Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey decisions....What was most interesting in the NPR story and other coverage is that, while crying foul when challenged over absolute statements on abortion, Democrats do not seem eager to bring clarity to their positions....Fox News' Peter Doocy... asked: "Does he support any limits on abortion right now?" Psaki would not answer the repeated question beyond saying that "the president has spoken – has talked about his position many times. He supports the right of a woman to make choices about her own body with her doctor...."

The White House routinely restates the position of the president on policy and legal issues. Why would it be reluctant to clearly answer this question on his current stance, particularly in light of the news from the court?...There was nothing wrong in a reporter asking whether the president believes that the right to abortion extends "until the moment of birth." That should not be difficult to answer if the president's position is clear....Politicians would like to continue to rally supporters with absolutist statements while refusing to address the implications of those statements. However, if we are going to resolve the debate of the right to abortion, we need to first understand what our leaders mean in declaring their support for the right of abortion....

Jonathan Turley May 23, 2022

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2022/05/23/abortion-without-limits-democrats/9835652002

Direct Headline: Opinion: Instead of fuming, maybe Democrats should be remorseful about the unearned advantage they got from Roe v. Wade.

Roe is history. The left is furious. They ought to be contrite...For more than a month, pro-abortion militants have been firebombing and smashing churches and anti-abortion family centers in anticipation of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade. On Friday they planned “A Night of Rage” to scream at conservative justices and to put the anti-abortion right on notice: "To our oppressors: If abortions aren’t safe, you’re not either. Jane’s Revenge.”

Maybe it’s time everyone slowed down and looked at Roe for what it was.

It was legal malpractice of the highest order that disenfranchised hundreds of millions of Americans by rationalizing that the Constitution had settled the question of abortion....An issue that rightly belonged in state legislatures where citizens could argue for and against was commandeered by the Blackmun court and settled. This is not merely a conservative view....Since Roe became law in 1973, a powerful consensus has been building among legal authorities left and right that Roe was constructed not on the breakwater of constitutional logic but on the seafoam of judicial activism...

Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court justice): “The political process was moving in the early 1970s ... not swiftly enough for advocates for quick, complete change, but majoritarian institutions were listening and acting. (Roe’s) heavy-handed judicial intervention was difficult to justify and appears to have provoked, not resolved, conflict....”

Edward Lazarus (attorney, clerk to Roe-author Justice Harry Blackmun): “As a matter of constitutional interpretation and judicial method, Roe borders on the indefensible. I say this as someone utterly committed to the right to choose, as someone who believes such a right has grounding elsewhere in the Constitution instead of where Roe placed it, and as someone who loved Roe’s author like a grandfather.  ... (Roe) has little connection to the constitutional right it purportedly interpreted....”

Michael Kinsley (opinion editor, Los Angeles Times; co-host of Crossfire): “Although I am pro-choice, I was taught in law school, and still believe, that Roe v. Wade is a muddle of bad reasoning and an authentic example of judicial overreaching. I also believe it was a political disaster for liberals. Roe is what first politicized religious conservatives while cutting off a political process that was legalizing abortion state by state anyway. Three decades later, that awakened giant controls the government....”

John Hart Ely (law professor; Yale, Harvard, Stanford; clerked for Chief Justice Earl Warren): “(Roe) is, nevertheless, a very bad decision. Not because it will perceptibly weaken the Court – it won’t; and not because it conflicts with either my idea of progress or what the evidence suggests is society’s – it doesn’t. It is bad because it is bad constitutional law, or rather because it is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be....”

...American liberals have lived rent free for 50 years on the Blackmun decision. They didn’t have to frame arguments. They didn’t have to persuade 50 legislatures. The Blackmun court handed them the ball, the game and the whistle when it was only just beginning. ...Today’s court is restarting the game where it always belonged – in the legislatures. But you can’t restart this game. Roe has been law for five decades, long enough for Americans to grow accustomed to legalized abortion. Roe was an enormous head start for the left. ...Let’s hear no more lectures from Democrats on how Donald Trump undermines U.S. institutions and destroys democracy. This is a two-party wrecking crew....

And what of the people left in the cold by the 1973 Roe decision. What of the small “d” democrats who oppose abortion?...The Blackmun court took their voices and their votes and held them in suspended animation for five decades....When is their “Night of Rage”?

Phil Boas 6/25/22

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/philboas/2022/06/25/democrats-abortion-court-law-roe-v-wade-biden-extremists/7731452001/

Direct Headline: The Democrats’ lies on abortion since SCOTUS’ overruling of Roe v. Wade

President Biden claimed that Pope Francis called him a “good Catholic.”...Biden has escaped accountability for his abortion advocacy. I guess we have to take his word for it that Pope Francis told him in April that he was a “good Catholic” and should continue receiving Communion....But the Vatican is all for the overturning of Roe v. Wade, issuing a statement praising the decision last week, and the pope explicitly has called abortion murder, likening it to “hiring a hit man....”

....Scientific advances showing us detailed ultrasound photos inside the womb, and allowing premature babies to survive at 25 weeks, have changed the equation. Most Americans want reasonable restrictions with compassionate exceptions to safeguard the mother’s life and in the cases of rape and incest — which Planned Parenthood’s own research arm, the Guttmacher Institute, says is less than 1% of abortions....If they are so opposed to the Supreme Court decision, why don’t Democrats simply pass a law to codify Roe v. Wade, since they control Washington? Well, they tried it already with the Women’s Health Protection Act, and failed. The Senate voted 49-51 against the bill, which would have overridden state abortion laws, well short of the 60 votes needed. The problem, as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez complains, is that members of their own party are pro-life....

....The truth is Democrats strayed too far from public opinion. Where once the phrase “safe, legal and rare” summed up a palatable position for Democrats, they allowed extremists to push it to abortion any time for any reason, including for sex selection and to get rid of Down syndrome babies, which is opposed by 70% of Americans...

By Miranda Devine June 26, 2022 11:17pm

https://nypost.com/2022/06/26/the-democrats-lies-on-abortion-since-scotus-overruling-of-roe-v-wade/

Direct Headline: For The First Time In Years, Democrats Are More Concerned About Abortion Than Republicans Are

Americans have long taken for granted the constitutional right to an abortion, established by the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark 1973 ruling in Roe v. Wade....The reality that Roe might be overturned has also shifted how Americans prioritize abortion as an issue. For decades, those who opposed abortion rights (generally speaking, Republicans) rated the issue as more important than those who supported abortion rights (generally speaking, Democrats), but as the chart below shows, the two parties’ priorities swapped after Texas’s abortion ban went into effect, which I first wrote about in October.....

...In the two surveys conducted by YouGov/The Economist since then, a record share of voters who backed President Biden in 2020 have rated abortion as a “very important” issue, by 61 percent and 63 percent, up from an average of about 42 percent in August surveys.2 Compare that with 37 percent and 40 percent of 2020 Trump voters who rated abortion as a “very important” issue in May, down from an average of about 45 percent in August polls.....Not only are Democrats more concerned now, but they're also rating abortion as much more important to their midterm vote for Congress now than they did four years ago.....In the 2018 midterms, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to prioritize abortion as their most important issue in choosing whom to vote for in Congress, but in May, 32 percent of Democrats said abortion was the most important issue in determining their vote, compared with 17 percent of Republicans. The share of Democrats who said abortion was an “extremely important” issue in voting for Congress in 2022 (48 percent) is also up from 2018 (31 percent), while the share of Republicans who said the issue was “extremely important” in 2022 (29 percent) is down from 2018 (36 percent).....

.....When most Democrats considered abortion rights a given, other issues typically overshadowed it. Yet now that the status quo is on the verge of being upended, Democrats are increasingly prioritizing abortion rights and will likely channel their anger over Roe being struck down into various forms of political participation....It remains to be seen, though, how these changes in voters’ priorities will affect future elections. Thus far, the leaked draft Supreme Court opinion has had no discernible impact on which party voters would support in a congressional election in FiveThirtyEight’s generic ballot polling average...

By Michael Tesler May 25, 2022, at 6:00 AM

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/for-the-first-time-in-years-democrats-are-more-concerned-about-abortion-than-republicans-are/

 

FairWarning

Footballguy
There is a common theme in all of these issues - it’s all or nothing.  This mentality gives the fringe power.  Doesn’t matter if it’s abortion, gun control,  etc.  

 

GordonGekko

Footballguy
Direct Headline: Biden DOJ indicts 11 pro-life activists for blocking access to abortion clinic

By Anders Hagstrom October 6, 2022 12:50pm EDT

....The Justice Department on Wednesday indicted 11 pro-life activists who investigators said blocked access to a Tennessee abortion clinic during a protest, saying they violated the FACE Act.....The activists, according to the indictment, organized an event blockading an abortion clinic near Nashville earlier this year. The DOJ alleges the group physically prevented both employees of the clinic and at least one would-be patient from entering the building in early March. The federal FACE Act prohibits demonstrators from blocking access to abortion clinics.

The DOJ charged seven of the protesters with "conspiracy against rights secured by the FACE Act," including Chester Gallagher, 73; Paul Vaughn, 55; Heather Idoni, 58; Calvin Zastrow, 57; Caroline Davis, 24; Coleman Boyd, 51; and Dennis Green, 56....The indictment also charged four others with committing FACE Act violations: Eva Edl, 87; Eva Zastro, 24; James Zastro, 25; and Paul Place, 24....

....Those charged with conspiracy face up to 11 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000. Those charged with FACE Act violations face up to one year in prison and a fine of up to $10,000....The DOJ alleges the protesters planned a "blockade" at the Carafem Health Center Clinic and "blocked the clinic’s entry doors and prevented a patient and an employee from entering....."

....While President Biden's DOJ has aggressively prosecuted pro-life activists, it has made no arrests in the at least 17 incidents of vandalism and arson against pro-life clinics committed by the radical abortion group "Jane's Revenge."


https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-doj-indicts-11-pro-life-activists-blocking-access-abortion-clinic



Direct Headline: FBI Arrests 87-Year-Old Pro-Life Concentration Camp Survivor for Peacefully Protesting Abortion

Steven Ertelt Oct 12, 2022

...Yet the event was mostly pro-life people staging a peaceful sit in along with signing and praying and it was so lawful and peaceful that local police let them go after minor misdemeanor charges. But if convicted on these federal charges from the Biden administration, Vaughn faces up to 11 years in prison, three years supervised release and fines of up to $350,000....

....One of the pro-life advocates the FBI considers as a danger to the public is an elderly woman, Eva Edl, who is a ...survivor of a communist prisoner-of-war concentration camp during World War II.....


https://www.lifenews.com/2022/10/12...-survivor-for-peacefully-protesting-abortion/


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If the Biden Administration wants to avoid the label of "extremism" when it comes to abortion, how about not arresting an 87 year old grandmother?

The headlines literally write themselves - "Grandmother survives WWII concentration camp, but not Joe Biden"

That's just ugly media optics. Also one of the few voting blocks that Biden still holds is with older voters. So what is the point in antagonizing them with chasing down the elderly?

There are 15-20 million Pro Life Democrats in this country who were politically homeless for nearly 50 years. Do you think the cross section that are purely single issue voters are going to dogmatically vote for any Team Blue regime that looks like it will codify Roe into law?

This is where "extremist" behavior like trying to lock up grandmothers becomes political incompetence. You stand a better chance to win elections and hold onto some seats in Congress if you find a way to appeal to those millions of Pro Life Democrats. Instead of persecuting the elderly.
 

jon_mx

Footballguy
Maybe they shouldn't have blocked people's access to health services
Maybe they should not hyper-criminalize things that conservatives do. Why does some minor offense make some 87-year old face 11 years in prison while cities are burnt down and there is no consequences? The left has lost their figgin minds when it comes to applying justice equally. Conservatives are low-life creatures who deserve zero compassion, but murderers and rapist somehow deserves compassion in the eyes of leftist. It is crazy how political our justice system has become and thr insanity is almost exclusively from the left.
 

jon_mx

Footballguy
As far as this topic, Democrats have long been rabidly against any restrictions on abortion. Getting a few on-board to support partial birth abortion was nearly impossible.
 

Mitchie

Footballguy
Maybe they shouldn't have blocked people's access to health services
Maybe they should not hyper-criminalize things that conservatives do. Why does some minor offense make some 87-year old face 11 years in prison while cities are burnt down and there is no consequences? The left has lost their figgin minds when it comes to applying justice equally. Conservatives are low-life creatures who deserve zero compassion, but murderers and rapist somehow deserves compassion in the eyes of leftist. It is crazy how political our justice system has become and thr insanity is almost exclusively from the left.
Can't block access to health services, you're putting people's lives at risk.
 

sho nuff

Footballguy
Protest elsewhere shouldn’t be harassing politicians anywhere…
Oh, its other citizens trying to get a legal
medical procedure? Well uts cool to block them and harass them as much as you wamt.

That seems to be the thoughts of some of today’s GOP.
 

jon_mx

Footballguy
Maybe they shouldn't have blocked people's access to health services
Maybe they should not hyper-criminalize things that conservatives do. Why does some minor offense make some 87-year old face 11 years in prison while cities are burnt down and there is no consequences? The left has lost their figgin minds when it comes to applying justice equally. Conservatives are low-life creatures who deserve zero compassion, but murderers and rapist somehow deserves compassion in the eyes of leftist. It is crazy how political our justice system has become and thr insanity is almost exclusively from the left.
Can't block access to health services, you're putting people's lives at risk.

Lol....what a pantload. Planned Parenthood does not save lives. They abort children, providing birth control, testing for STD's and destroying genitalia, with the latter being their biggest cash cow.
 

jon_mx

Footballguy
Protest elsewhere shouldn’t be harassing politicians anywhere…
Oh, its other citizens trying to get a legal
medical procedure? Well uts cool to block them and harass them as much as you wamt.

That seems to be the thoughts of some of today’s GOP.
Health care = Killing children and destroying children reproductive organs.

Spare me your politically selective outrage.

Meanwhile leftists groups are firebombing pro-life health clinics and all it gets is stonewalled by liberal DA's and Justice Department. But some old lady doing no harm is being charged. What a sick and disgusting joke.
 
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